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It has two modes first there is the boot loader med which is running how okay boot -- And then the second -- is the user mode where your actual program runs to switch between the two notes you'll see that they're actually. A little micro switch here. And we even have an embedded LEV -- linking on this board here about the current that comes with the chip when you first you know. Getting in the mail and plug it in. Via USB. USB okay that's another very important thing about the sport well a lot of -- do we know like boards. May use USB interface of the computer what happens is that the use a USB to serial chip on the chip on the on the board -- that'll actually translated. Too late thirties 400 -- forget the baud rate anyway the serial. This is an actual USB device that shows up as you as human interface device. And that's how we can listen to it output and right stepped through and all sorts of fun stuff so. That's kind of an an interest in neat feature that we will take you know much closer look at in a future segment. But first let's go ahead and get you started. This is compatible with the hats off. Or for windows for Mac and for Lennox and since you aren't -- big switch this season we're gonna go ahead and put it together in that acts are right. Now there a couple of different programs. That you can that you can use this namely comes with. The teensy litter application both the Dewey and a command line version ninety -- person here. -- A little teensy. And as what it looks like -- we have this as little window here and it says press the button to activate because right now it's in use elements that we can actually. In a program talked -- anything so I'm gonna go ahead reach over here. And just. Press the button there it'll -- flashing. When a look at my PC all the sudden we have you know. We can see the chip and it says that is running blink faster hacks your percent used very small program that actually our usage of remembering. And let's go ahead and the next thing is okay so that's how we actually load the applications we can just get file. Open hex file and then click over here to program the device and then to reboot the virus would just press -- to change into Yzerman. The other applications the need to get started with this guy is a GCC compiler for DAV the AVR processor. It will compiled C or C plus plus code into a text file that he is -- upload. So let's go ahead and make one of this. Actually have only examples here and I'm gonna go in to. Link di. And here we go I have. You know the C code and I could go ahead she -- that looks like for pulling key. It's not super exciting but basically what it does is. Blinks Morse code out of the embedded LEV so go ahead make that just simply make there's already a make file for. Compiled pretty quickly and come over here to the loader. An open that text file. That's horrible. And can see. -- And there is the twinkie tax. Open that. Program it goes pretty quick. And reboot the device. And as you can see over here it's actually blinking SOS. That that. That the dot. Okay. And then it'll actually blink a message for people that might actually be familiar with Morse code. Here's -- museum Clinton -- questions so. The other interesting thing is like I said it's heated. Device so we actually have a hit listener. For all the platforms and what happens is it actually speaks back to the computer so in your C code if you do like. As a print LN. -- can -- out -- actually bright that you're -- you can see you know it's great for debugging. But the neatest thing is like -- said it's not. -- technically. We're officially sanctioned as like in -- do we know but it's close enough and you can run a lot of -- sketches. 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" Clicks on. Well there's silent influence here and I can in the in the cast members on the sure thing. You know that's that's pretty much it if we're able to use in the development environment. With it very inexpensive board like it's at nineteen dollars and planet over PJ RC. Dot com as well as a whole bunch of other on electronic projects I'm going to be doing a lot more on stuff with this board. Here incoming projects and tying it in meeting with the -- house rover so definite recommend you check it out. At PE RC dot com. And I want to let you guys know that we have excellent segment coming up soon. IP telephony maps can be showing us how to put together a free IP PBX system for your small office or home office in the ten minutes or something but first gonna kick it over to Shannon and see what's going on in this -- Lan parties."

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" Sorry guys that daily show you how to implement a very cost effective IP PBX. Now -- to cost effective depending on your needs we've got a free option or we've got a commercial options. Just depends on what features that you actually need to be installing this in your house. The free version of the software three CX is indeed just fine call park you know and transfer. You know any of that other Microsoft Exchange of seven immigration problem. Don't need it. Or do is we're gonna set up things an example IP PBX here in the house in nominee try to do it in under. Ten minutes tech right here we got three CX dot -- where you go and find the software. -- come over to your windows based machine yes it is a windows IP PBX software rated double click on the installer which is about."

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" Want to save forty megs or so. We're gonna run it and an extract. It's looking for all the stuff. And next you can solve this on XP pro or server 2003 -- every got in around house. And reflect next week and next and next. And we are gonna use the bundled web server which they include Cassini if you don't have IS installed on your machine then that's fine. -- Cassini which is what we're gonna do and we're gonna install. And that's going through its motions what we're gonna do. Is make note of the server IP address very important. And we're gonna take a look at -- different phones here I've got a Linksys as 962 which is actually deployed. Along company. And I actually deployed this less than probably a week ago in this grand stream you might remember if you've seen older episodes -- on. And Paul doing his answer segment. So. Good budget -- 200 cost effective -- single line six line on yes PA 962. -- of the installation is finished and now we should have a wizard pops up asking us to go ahead and finalize the installation. It's gonna launch it's gonna ask this couple things that's gonna ask us for our registration information we have any. On the number extensions that we want to set up and something like this system attendant if you want an operator to. Direct people to different extensions to go through it was a report. Next we're gonna create new PBX is going to be the standard three digit dialing rule. The server is and that and oh 180. And yes and TP server ten theft and one. Pull and actually. What type correctly. Cameron is set up or admin password. -- But next we're gonna add an extension zero a 100 is going to be the system and operator -- just put. Operator email address. And -- it and and -- add two more extensions. And next and the operator extension is 100. And we do not have a VoIP Gateway war provider right now right now we're just gonna go ahead and set up an internal calling system. Every click next now it's going to finalize the installation and once this. This installer is done. Spacek and figuring all the software that's already installed mean going and we can -- and figuring our phones now. Three CX is nice because it has an on a conditioning system built in for supported phones or you can create your own templates for. Your grand stream BT 200. There already is an SP 962. Configuration. Inside the software where you can vanity URL and it automatically provision phone. But words going to go ahead and set them up manually a couple of things we're gonna need really need the IP address of the IP PBX really username BR ID. The password and -- A couple of those are kind of redundant but they call on different stuff and different phones so just be aware that right click next. And we are going to skip online registration and click finish. Now once this pops up here. It's gonna ask us and we're gonna get out of the remote desktop session. Okay -- come over here. You know point and -- VIP address of the PBX. And it and then act. Now this is the main. Management screen for the IP PBX here you can see we've got our extensions -- set up. That did that in the set up process so 11 right click on that here we see. And the default username and password is going to be 111 a one and one on one hand if he lies the free three CX what client. The we're gonna do is -- come over here to grand stream. Ever and enter our password. And -- come down here and go into the account tab. Now the account name is going to be. Want to once -- say the sip servers tend to attend up oh about one in the outcome proxies tend ten no doubt -- to -- Israelis want to want to authenticate ideas want to won the authenticate password is 11 in the name is user. -- use any DN SS RV records the user -- is the phone number sip registration is turned on and on register on reboot yes that is correct. Sit transports UDP. Nat traversal -- time you can use it's not really required. Early dial. We do not want to use early dot three CX does not support early dialing early dialing is basically one and then it will start -- string. We want is we want to hit the pound sign or send button on the phone to actually send the complete string of numbers that we want to the the IP PBX check in audio and via RTP are selected we don't have a dollar plan prefix on this phone. Old news Oracle had hit update. And reboot that phone. -- that phone is rebooting will come over here the Linksys little bit of a different interface little bit more options the six line phone residues were set -- extension one. Or an enable the line right shared user ideas not required. You come down here."

" And mailbox ID is. One -- two. The proxy is tend to attend. Oh one in ten -- and that -- donating. And the display name is user to. Off ID is one of two -- one of two. One of two -- Who should be able to submit these and the function reboot."

" We come over here to 36 management software. We see new contact is registered 11 that would be grand stream which is set up. Now as soon as the Linksys has done -- rebooting. Should come up and we can refresh the long. And one O two is now registered so let's try calling. The grand stream. This for you. You can has phone call. That's that. Now you can there's tons of VoIP providers or you can you know get a Linksys. 31 O two if you want to use your old pianist -- Phone lines to integrate with a three CX software. Now the great thing about it is this is completely free if you feel like you need to deploy this or want to play this at your office you can get a demo license from three CX reaction by the software to see if everything's gonna work inside. I've got an integrated with exchange 2007 you know -- messaging. Handles mine system operators as well as our voicemail very powerful he software specially with the added features that you and I -- For more information check out met last dot dot com or Hak5 dot org where I would have all show notes on three CX and the different models."

" Last week's trivia contest was a whole bunch worst -- and once you do that -- had asked you what is that -- and having common ways. And my last name is once they got. And I trivia winner was cipher eclipse. -- winning a copy of -- actually Schwartz tells documentary called hackers are people. This week if you Canon's answer and all his letters that are showing up -- campus and -- dot org slash yeah. Phil and the planes and an instant trivia questions you might get a chance in this -- get away widgets he's seen dice. TC guys are pretty -- I think and I hope you like them up and I have I have to thank our sponsor Netflix. Live Netflix you can rent over 90000 titles online including lots of great titles -- shipping both ways to your house. And now have over forty shipping centers almost all deliver this happen in just one -- Wednesday Netflix plans I have 199. Plus as a new viewer you can get and -- this two week free trial membership. At www. Netflix.com slash Hak5 and please don't forget that WWW. Except finally we're going to have our interview with run untenable."

" Our case it tonight we have the pleasure having Ron -- the CEO and CTO a tenable network security joining us tonight via Skype. Hey Ron how right now. Doin' very well thanks very much for having me on the show thanks for coming down it's great that we can do is virtually and whatnot. Have a lot of interesting questions Aureus and stuff submitted from our Twitter audience prior season when not so well get into it and just you know kind of get a feel for. What you do at tenable and -- how tenable kind of came about how."

" Absolutely so I actually happen to such a business cards on the CEO and the CTO. I'm not one of the original our co founders attainable but nobody wants it talks in time to time about to start a company. That's an uninteresting story in itself but my guess is mr. users want to talk about NASA's. Yes definitely tell me about NASA's that's what you most known for maybe could kind of -- that some of the history of NASA's how came about and that. It's it's changed lice and says a source and should act should think. So for users who aren't familiar with NASA's thinking go to NASA's done over and yes this US RO RG. And not download a -- tool that allows them to perform vulnerability scanning. On their network and NASA has been around for a long time -- of routers is no terrorists and there's the original author of NASA's very very involved and all parts of NASA's development -- the plug in development. And it has gone through a few changes in pretty specific licensing questions you wanted to talk routers what you know there's actually a lot of in the confusion between what that the homers in the professional. You know as that one points open source -- maybe you can give this little brief history. Of that 109 and what to. And what the differences are there."

" Absolutely so yes this is not ten years old. When it was first released it was released open source of the GE -- licenses. And those kind of things that people we're expecting. Passage to our crew in in popularity insert getting requests for a lot different features and functionality. And a you know one of the things that we did was when we got to appoint a few years ago we released a new version NASA's completes. I'm new product called necessary. And at that point we also had the license change very similar to justices and two parts on one hand the -- this scanner. It's a program you install on server. There's a client you can count on her laptop and the dose of the things that actually executes these the other part NASA's what you call planets. The plug -- is tiny programs that -- produces on almost a daily basis that your for the latest vulnerabilities. So perhaps in the new vulnerability comes out. Any -- to researchers -- tenable ready plugin. And in these you downloaded to NASA's soon if you keep in mind and justices to purchase these plug ins and then there's the actual Skinner itself. We have a couple different license changed to one from NASA's -- in NASA history. The necessary. Scanner. Was closed source leader to release the source code for that it's always free download anybody can get it they can download it can want to raise your own plug your more than happy to do that. But then the actual slogans that you can get from terminal we changed the licensed sash stack your home user. You can get all of our vulnerability charts scanned you're never -- you want with them but if you're corporation. You have to pay -- fee of 1200 dollars per year which is so people compare to depressive card here to persecuted will work these large organizations."

" Interesting but he so. Maybe could kind of share with us some Easter eggs or maybe some developer tips of some of the nitty gritty stuff -- something that might surprise him in its menus and -- NASA's for a while but. If -- is really under the hood there's these -- that that we've written that are really popular for example we just released a plug in within the past week. That give credentials to logon to windows computer will pull the entire block and every USB devices plugged in to -- from that machine. Some people you know mr. parts out they're based on patent you did you get that -- for free with masts and yeah you gotta watch her for the USB stuff there could be some people. Evil stuff being plugged into computers -- for -- so maybe Khatami a little bit about PBS how how does that relate NASA's. Sure so as much as we try to make Asus that's fast and comprehensive suspense as we can't. It still has one major flaw an idea for patents are more. When have to actually launched scheme and -- the stand and look at and no matter how. Minimal impact -- for -- NASA's if you can get penetration tester do some sort of you know vulnerability assessment if anything goes wrong during that time you're to blame when it went that you are not. So about five years ago we had the idea that if we could sniff traffic. We can easily imagine for a -- on the network the source that they were browsing on course they're serving out. And that -- look at traffic enough with the protocol analysis you can actually identify the vulnerabilities. So we -- a tool called the process vulnerabilities tunes -- it's from our commercials let's not start for free. But what you can do was put this on the perimeter of the core network. You can pretty much learn everything about what's going on that network I've gotta ask but the pricing and on that because I'm extremely interested network -- on. Sure the other question PDF since it's it's one price is 10000 dollars. Okay there's there's a out of the windows version you can slip it into any type of network and you can get really -- If you've gotta teach you feet and traffic you can actually lose the G speed up the feature track and do different types of analysis suggested generous best actor and it's starting to -- the video. And how to do that is they're like a home version of that or. We actually are considering licensing like that's gonna talk about some of the features to protect plan for NASA's -- they are considering. Do things like that right now Beatrice is mostly bad. Corporate -- my guess is -- under a network you're gonna know what's on their cubicle devices 2030 devices. This is really for large organizations -- they don't even think forgotten -- actual routers entire buildings that are plugged in us yeah monarchy its customers. I'm Laura Leo it's."

" I love the story of a systems administrator that sound like the NT four server that lake. Was actually buried in a wall you know them talking about -- like how are you agree -- we did the building and I guess nobody noticed and NT four server was up late years no problem. -- says something UH Friday holy -- or two you know an enforcer. On. -- except I really want to know so much more -- run out of time here but maybe could tell us what's comin' up. In the future versions and and and maybe you can come back later after would you like -- series on some of the NASA's -- on the animal products. And share some more advanced tips and tricks."

" Absolutely absolutely. -- abuse you should keep watch for new versions of NASA's are always working on that. We are recently just added the ability to -- sequels a -- your listeners or watchers are there are in the business of art and database servers we just -- this capabilities you can basically aren't my -- well. -- And -- you know those deployments account. And then the last thing is if people like this whole discussion forum types of interaction when they can actually seen in person talked to he's just directly. We just lost a new distortions or soon recovered and you'll NASA's mailing list okay now we kind of had a community driven area where your different topics you can go and share ideas scripts and suggestions grafted into one neat feature request --"

" Excellently acted out where to go and get a hold of that if you -- NASA's on workers directions and hot water onto the decision to run at the bottom of the page. Sounds great Ron thanks so much for coming on and I hope that maybe come back and show us an advanced tips and tricks that a little later on. Absolutely. Could not necessary but if you are right or we're gonna go ahead and wrap this show up so. Let's just that he --"

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It has two modes first there is the boot loader med which is running how okay boot -- And then the second -- is the user mode where your actual program runs to switch between the two notes you'll see that they're actually. A little micro switch here. And we even have an embedded LEV -- linking on this board here about the current that comes with the chip when you first you know. Getting in the mail and plug it in. Via USB. USB okay that's another very important thing about the sport well a lot of -- do we know like boards. May use USB interface of the computer what happens is that the use a USB to serial chip on the chip on the on the board -- that'll actually translated. Too late thirties 400 -- forget the baud rate anyway the serial. This is an actual USB device that shows up as you as human interface device. And that's how we can listen to it output and right stepped through and all sorts of fun stuff so. That's kind of an an interest in neat feature that we will take you know much closer look at in a future segment. But first let's go ahead and get you started. This is compatible with the hats off. Or for windows for Mac and for Lennox and since you aren't -- big switch this season we're gonna go ahead and put it together in that acts are right. Now there a couple of different programs. That you can that you can use this namely comes with. The teensy litter application both the Dewey and a command line version ninety -- person here. -- A little teensy. And as what it looks like -- we have this as little window here and it says press the button to activate because right now it's in use elements that we can actually. In a program talked -- anything so I'm gonna go ahead reach over here. And just. Press the button there it'll -- flashing. When a look at my PC all the sudden we have you know. We can see the chip and it says that is running blink faster hacks your percent used very small program that actually our usage of remembering. And let's go ahead and the next thing is okay so that's how we actually load the applications we can just get file. Open hex file and then click over here to program the device and then to reboot the virus would just press -- to change into Yzerman. The other applications the need to get started with this guy is a GCC compiler for DAV the AVR processor. It will compiled C or C plus plus code into a text file that he is -- upload. So let's go ahead and make one of this. Actually have only examples here and I'm gonna go in to. Link di. And here we go I have. You know the C code and I could go ahead she -- that looks like for pulling key. It's not super exciting but basically what it does is. Blinks Morse code out of the embedded LEV so go ahead make that just simply make there's already a make file for. 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" Clicks on. Well there's silent influence here and I can in the in the cast members on the sure thing. You know that's that's pretty much it if we're able to use in the development environment. With it very inexpensive board like it's at nineteen dollars and planet over PJ RC. Dot com as well as a whole bunch of other on electronic projects I'm going to be doing a lot more on stuff with this board. Here incoming projects and tying it in meeting with the -- house rover so definite recommend you check it out. At PE RC dot com. And I want to let you guys know that we have excellent segment coming up soon. IP telephony maps can be showing us how to put together a free IP PBX system for your small office or home office in the ten minutes or something but first gonna kick it over to Shannon and see what's going on in this -- Lan parties."

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" Sorry guys that daily show you how to implement a very cost effective IP PBX. Now -- to cost effective depending on your needs we've got a free option or we've got a commercial options. Just depends on what features that you actually need to be installing this in your house. The free version of the software three CX is indeed just fine call park you know and transfer. You know any of that other Microsoft Exchange of seven immigration problem. Don't need it. Or do is we're gonna set up things an example IP PBX here in the house in nominee try to do it in under. Ten minutes tech right here we got three CX dot -- where you go and find the software. -- come over to your windows based machine yes it is a windows IP PBX software rated double click on the installer which is about."

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" Want to save forty megs or so. We're gonna run it and an extract. It's looking for all the stuff. And next you can solve this on XP pro or server 2003 -- every got in around house. And reflect next week and next and next. And we are gonna use the bundled web server which they include Cassini if you don't have IS installed on your machine then that's fine. -- Cassini which is what we're gonna do and we're gonna install. And that's going through its motions what we're gonna do. Is make note of the server IP address very important. And we're gonna take a look at -- different phones here I've got a Linksys as 962 which is actually deployed. Along company. And I actually deployed this less than probably a week ago in this grand stream you might remember if you've seen older episodes -- on. And Paul doing his answer segment. So. Good budget -- 200 cost effective -- single line six line on yes PA 962. -- of the installation is finished and now we should have a wizard pops up asking us to go ahead and finalize the installation. It's gonna launch it's gonna ask this couple things that's gonna ask us for our registration information we have any. On the number extensions that we want to set up and something like this system attendant if you want an operator to. Direct people to different extensions to go through it was a report. Next we're gonna create new PBX is going to be the standard three digit dialing rule. The server is and that and oh 180. And yes and TP server ten theft and one. Pull and actually. What type correctly. Cameron is set up or admin password. -- But next we're gonna add an extension zero a 100 is going to be the system and operator -- just put. Operator email address. And -- it and and -- add two more extensions. And next and the operator extension is 100. And we do not have a VoIP Gateway war provider right now right now we're just gonna go ahead and set up an internal calling system. Every click next now it's going to finalize the installation and once this. This installer is done. Spacek and figuring all the software that's already installed mean going and we can -- and figuring our phones now. Three CX is nice because it has an on a conditioning system built in for supported phones or you can create your own templates for. Your grand stream BT 200. There already is an SP 962. Configuration. Inside the software where you can vanity URL and it automatically provision phone. But words going to go ahead and set them up manually a couple of things we're gonna need really need the IP address of the IP PBX really username BR ID. The password and -- A couple of those are kind of redundant but they call on different stuff and different phones so just be aware that right click next. And we are going to skip online registration and click finish. Now once this pops up here. It's gonna ask us and we're gonna get out of the remote desktop session. Okay -- come over here. You know point and -- VIP address of the PBX. And it and then act. Now this is the main. Management screen for the IP PBX here you can see we've got our extensions -- set up. That did that in the set up process so 11 right click on that here we see. And the default username and password is going to be 111 a one and one on one hand if he lies the free three CX what client. The we're gonna do is -- come over here to grand stream. Ever and enter our password. And -- come down here and go into the account tab. Now the account name is going to be. Want to once -- say the sip servers tend to attend up oh about one in the outcome proxies tend ten no doubt -- to -- Israelis want to want to authenticate ideas want to won the authenticate password is 11 in the name is user. -- use any DN SS RV records the user -- is the phone number sip registration is turned on and on register on reboot yes that is correct. Sit transports UDP. Nat traversal -- time you can use it's not really required. Early dial. We do not want to use early dot three CX does not support early dialing early dialing is basically one and then it will start -- string. We want is we want to hit the pound sign or send button on the phone to actually send the complete string of numbers that we want to the the IP PBX check in audio and via RTP are selected we don't have a dollar plan prefix on this phone. Old news Oracle had hit update. And reboot that phone. -- that phone is rebooting will come over here the Linksys little bit of a different interface little bit more options the six line phone residues were set -- extension one. Or an enable the line right shared user ideas not required. You come down here."

" And mailbox ID is. One -- two. The proxy is tend to attend. Oh one in ten -- and that -- donating. And the display name is user to. Off ID is one of two -- one of two. One of two -- Who should be able to submit these and the function reboot."

" We come over here to 36 management software. We see new contact is registered 11 that would be grand stream which is set up. Now as soon as the Linksys has done -- rebooting. Should come up and we can refresh the long. And one O two is now registered so let's try calling. The grand stream. This for you. You can has phone call. That's that. Now you can there's tons of VoIP providers or you can you know get a Linksys. 31 O two if you want to use your old pianist -- Phone lines to integrate with a three CX software. Now the great thing about it is this is completely free if you feel like you need to deploy this or want to play this at your office you can get a demo license from three CX reaction by the software to see if everything's gonna work inside. I've got an integrated with exchange 2007 you know -- messaging. Handles mine system operators as well as our voicemail very powerful he software specially with the added features that you and I -- For more information check out met last dot dot com or Hak5 dot org where I would have all show notes on three CX and the different models."

" Last week's trivia contest was a whole bunch worst -- and once you do that -- had asked you what is that -- and having common ways. And my last name is once they got. And I trivia winner was cipher eclipse. -- winning a copy of -- actually Schwartz tells documentary called hackers are people. This week if you Canon's answer and all his letters that are showing up -- campus and -- dot org slash yeah. Phil and the planes and an instant trivia questions you might get a chance in this -- get away widgets he's seen dice. TC guys are pretty -- I think and I hope you like them up and I have I have to thank our sponsor Netflix. Live Netflix you can rent over 90000 titles online including lots of great titles -- shipping both ways to your house. And now have over forty shipping centers almost all deliver this happen in just one -- Wednesday Netflix plans I have 199. Plus as a new viewer you can get and -- this two week free trial membership. At www. Netflix.com slash Hak5 and please don't forget that WWW. Except finally we're going to have our interview with run untenable."

" Our case it tonight we have the pleasure having Ron -- the CEO and CTO a tenable network security joining us tonight via Skype. Hey Ron how right now. Doin' very well thanks very much for having me on the show thanks for coming down it's great that we can do is virtually and whatnot. Have a lot of interesting questions Aureus and stuff submitted from our Twitter audience prior season when not so well get into it and just you know kind of get a feel for. What you do at tenable and -- how tenable kind of came about how."

" Absolutely so I actually happen to such a business cards on the CEO and the CTO. I'm not one of the original our co founders attainable but nobody wants it talks in time to time about to start a company. That's an uninteresting story in itself but my guess is mr. users want to talk about NASA's. Yes definitely tell me about NASA's that's what you most known for maybe could kind of -- that some of the history of NASA's how came about and that. It's it's changed lice and says a source and should act should think. So for users who aren't familiar with NASA's thinking go to NASA's done over and yes this US RO RG. And not download a -- tool that allows them to perform vulnerability scanning. On their network and NASA has been around for a long time -- of routers is no terrorists and there's the original author of NASA's very very involved and all parts of NASA's development -- the plug in development. And it has gone through a few changes in pretty specific licensing questions you wanted to talk routers what you know there's actually a lot of in the confusion between what that the homers in the professional. You know as that one points open source -- maybe you can give this little brief history. Of that 109 and what to. And what the differences are there."

" Absolutely so yes this is not ten years old. When it was first released it was released open source of the GE -- licenses. And those kind of things that people we're expecting. Passage to our crew in in popularity insert getting requests for a lot different features and functionality. And a you know one of the things that we did was when we got to appoint a few years ago we released a new version NASA's completes. I'm new product called necessary. And at that point we also had the license change very similar to justices and two parts on one hand the -- this scanner. It's a program you install on server. There's a client you can count on her laptop and the dose of the things that actually executes these the other part NASA's what you call planets. The plug -- is tiny programs that -- produces on almost a daily basis that your for the latest vulnerabilities. So perhaps in the new vulnerability comes out. Any -- to researchers -- tenable ready plugin. And in these you downloaded to NASA's soon if you keep in mind and justices to purchase these plug ins and then there's the actual Skinner itself. We have a couple different license changed to one from NASA's -- in NASA history. The necessary. Scanner. Was closed source leader to release the source code for that it's always free download anybody can get it they can download it can want to raise your own plug your more than happy to do that. But then the actual slogans that you can get from terminal we changed the licensed sash stack your home user. You can get all of our vulnerability charts scanned you're never -- you want with them but if you're corporation. You have to pay -- fee of 1200 dollars per year which is so people compare to depressive card here to persecuted will work these large organizations."

" Interesting but he so. Maybe could kind of share with us some Easter eggs or maybe some developer tips of some of the nitty gritty stuff -- something that might surprise him in its menus and -- NASA's for a while but. If -- is really under the hood there's these -- that that we've written that are really popular for example we just released a plug in within the past week. That give credentials to logon to windows computer will pull the entire block and every USB devices plugged in to -- from that machine. Some people you know mr. parts out they're based on patent you did you get that -- for free with masts and yeah you gotta watch her for the USB stuff there could be some people. Evil stuff being plugged into computers -- for -- so maybe Khatami a little bit about PBS how how does that relate NASA's. Sure so as much as we try to make Asus that's fast and comprehensive suspense as we can't. It still has one major flaw an idea for patents are more. When have to actually launched scheme and -- the stand and look at and no matter how. Minimal impact -- for -- NASA's if you can get penetration tester do some sort of you know vulnerability assessment if anything goes wrong during that time you're to blame when it went that you are not. So about five years ago we had the idea that if we could sniff traffic. We can easily imagine for a -- on the network the source that they were browsing on course they're serving out. And that -- look at traffic enough with the protocol analysis you can actually identify the vulnerabilities. So we -- a tool called the process vulnerabilities tunes -- it's from our commercials let's not start for free. But what you can do was put this on the perimeter of the core network. You can pretty much learn everything about what's going on that network I've gotta ask but the pricing and on that because I'm extremely interested network -- on. Sure the other question PDF since it's it's one price is 10000 dollars. Okay there's there's a out of the windows version you can slip it into any type of network and you can get really -- If you've gotta teach you feet and traffic you can actually lose the G speed up the feature track and do different types of analysis suggested generous best actor and it's starting to -- the video. And how to do that is they're like a home version of that or. We actually are considering licensing like that's gonna talk about some of the features to protect plan for NASA's -- they are considering. Do things like that right now Beatrice is mostly bad. Corporate -- my guess is -- under a network you're gonna know what's on their cubicle devices 2030 devices. This is really for large organizations -- they don't even think forgotten -- actual routers entire buildings that are plugged in us yeah monarchy its customers. I'm Laura Leo it's."

" I love the story of a systems administrator that sound like the NT four server that lake. Was actually buried in a wall you know them talking about -- like how are you agree -- we did the building and I guess nobody noticed and NT four server was up late years no problem. -- says something UH Friday holy -- or two you know an enforcer. On. -- except I really want to know so much more -- run out of time here but maybe could tell us what's comin' up. In the future versions and and and maybe you can come back later after would you like -- series on some of the NASA's -- on the animal products. And share some more advanced tips and tricks."

" Absolutely absolutely. -- abuse you should keep watch for new versions of NASA's are always working on that. We are recently just added the ability to -- sequels a -- your listeners or watchers are there are in the business of art and database servers we just -- this capabilities you can basically aren't my -- well. -- And -- you know those deployments account. And then the last thing is if people like this whole discussion forum types of interaction when they can actually seen in person talked to he's just directly. We just lost a new distortions or soon recovered and you'll NASA's mailing list okay now we kind of had a community driven area where your different topics you can go and share ideas scripts and suggestions grafted into one neat feature request --"

" Excellently acted out where to go and get a hold of that if you -- NASA's on workers directions and hot water onto the decision to run at the bottom of the page. Sounds great Ron thanks so much for coming on and I hope that maybe come back and show us an advanced tips and tricks that a little later on. Absolutely. Could not necessary but if you are right or we're gonna go ahead and wrap this show up so. Let's just that he --"

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