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" Yeah well. This time on the show amateur radio operator trade Murphy joins us talk about automatic packet reporting system. Radio licensing. And building -- system on the sheet. -- Good to -- express. He's -- states airforce and didn't get. Easy free web conference. Hello --"

" MacBook signing -- in kitchen and they didn't take it you're expecting me is the fact I've -- things -- looking -- again he's back right. I am actually on -- voters it was venture I'm just crossing. And carrier ring now on I'm way over to you. Augusta me today and end up around. But anyway. We have -- show you guys today we're talking torment for otherwise known as November or pop out tango was going to. Oh look all this talk about how yeah reader. Data network that. I'm sure many people aren't aware I was just fully excited about that it actually stick around. I -- Oh and if you're reasonable looking and motorcycle. Video blog. It's on a different dot com that's -- thing. They like. To its. When it's that you are mixed on -- it -- Netscape -- it works."

" So when most of us think about having fun with wireless between -- edited on eleven Muni Wi-Fi users -- these. But there is a totally cool data network that's been around since from what I understand the eighties we had the pleasure of learning about it tonight because. And four PAT. Or otherwise known as streamer is down in Q after I come down here are welcome as well on a so we've never actually. The -- operator. Him radio operator on the show and I think it's high time because this is the does the you know don't freaking seen this is the the computer hacking scene this is in all of that beforehand."

" Well this is of the network -- logo but it -- and started back in the eighties. Home another ham about -- WB four. And it's a packet switch network we use digital -- Peters but. The beauty of this is you basically need a battery radio and encoder to GPS and -- good ago. You don't have spent a lot of money to do it you can spend a thousand bucks if you've got written or you can build something that's. Right you've you've built this that in order to stay here are a couple hundred write these are just off the shelf parts but before we dive into the the hardware. Let's get a little bit of background here you said that is developed in the eighties were talking that EP RS here not. Packet radio but it's. It's a system that allows us to do what they purest sense for the automatic. Packet reporting system. And it transmits. An amateur radio developed packet protocol called X when he files. I don't know all the particulars of a -- needless to say it it works extremely well. But it allows us to transmit everything from position velocity. Altitude type data. To weather data scientific data. It also includes messaging. And therefore you have this very robust. Network that because. It's very distributed. Can also be extremely reliable. A home. It's all volunteers. This is not commercial at all we don't make any money off of it. We'd pay for all ourselves. A home but it it gives us of a method. To have what we call total tactical awareness of an event. I would of given area all sorts of different things. Where you need to know. Where your personnel or what the position is what the status is. Early in route or at least stationary. And in some cases exactly what that position is and have an immediate okay."

" I love the idea of the fact that this is a wireless network and -- worldwide not just national right and it's. And there's no major telco behind -- support -- this. I find that's so so uninteresting what are some of the common. Practical uses of this can you some examples of how this is the --"

" Everybody's familiar what happened with Katrina you had a vast area where there was simply no communications of structure of the wasn't cellphones there weren't any. Form of packets which radio for public service. No electricity in many places. You did you concerned. AP RS equipped rescuers into this area. If they've got this they don't even have to know where they or for a command center would just. A website that picks up the information or receiver and software or computer to decode packets and put oppositional -- And you know exactly where someone has spent. All the much smaller scale just last week you know and amateur radio operators about a communications for a bike ride that covered the entire county -- panel. Rome lake -- to spots Albania almost down to king William. And the vehicles of all the bike runners for support. We're equipped with they Peoria us which -- well must one know which vehicle was it which. Without having to think about it because you can use -- call science necessary you can beside one side to you can be rest up one rest ought to. And when you've got 700 riders over -- and at a motorcycle following them now yeah over your last -- Erisa you know okay the last -- past the rest up. Total rest up they can break -- Roberts came to rest stop points at three miles down the road someone's been injured. We know exactly where the site wagons or the menace -- Whiting gets to the Ryder. Now we know exactly where the robbery is if we medium best we can provide coordinates and address whatever we need to. To have total awareness of where everybody uses so what's very valuable. On the other and the other thing too is with the messaging capability you can send text messages much like you Woodson. To Twitter or something like that it's about a 140 character message limit. And provide whatever. Information you Walt in that particular. And that's just node to -- so I would note if I were an AP RS operators well unite and speak now do we have to go through a server -- is as the infrastructure when most of it is run through what are called digital reputed for -- Peters and in the Richmond area the Tidewater area of who we're down here. Amateurs to put a very robust network and there's a bootable -- number of them so the coverage is very good. And if you were to go to a website like a purist Arafat. And no particular call -- you -- put it and see their position you can see what did you -- they have -- room to get where they're going. If you can hear -- station direct you can message direct. But part of the packet includes the path to and from that station. So that if you if someone message you and says hello there. You can turn -- say hello back. And it follows the same path back even if you opt repeated if you -- repeater a lot of titles which -- gonna found is. The goal is to get your -- Packets to an Internet Gateway. And people who have home based AP -- stations. Typically will --"

" That data to the Internet so -- hook up the radio tune their Internet connection -- with some some software. Essentially a server -- exactly. And then dye is then and the Internet become the backbone for all the other exactly now there well they don't necessarily. Here we're seeing the the Gateway all they're doing is repeating what they hear -- but they're looking at that path and going okay. I consider this -- so you could could potentially message somebody in California -- even if you couldn't necessarily run a signal there right now radio. There's -- correctional this. All of its 1200 -- Bandwidth is very limited. When when you're dealing with -- of collisions so occur they do occur and then packet -- But I'm assuming that some sort there's gotta be some three checks -- to make sure that if you've got garbage you know it's garbage right they the system will check and it's either rebel a packet which I don't know pocket. But it doesn't care it's a non valid packet just drops. Now you actually use the system on your way down from Richmond -- to packed house and we actually have pulled up. And this is very -- that we can actually see your route and we cannot take a look here at the different. You know the different points points that you you cheated the checkpoints that you -- and so can you kind of show us some of the other things on the map here well for instance. When I was apparently Richmond area. You can see right there with a purple one pops up let's shows the path it took before that the Internet. And it welled up being updated daily chaos or BWJ. -- twelve styles. And would direct in other cases. For instance this packet."

" Whip through the day before RET dash three digit Peter which spells to Dell to the case before why FK. I gate. Which is what -- Elvis website. That is so X."

" I mean you know as as a Wi-Fi geek you know I'm I'm used to dealing with access point three -- and so again that this is. You know that before we had union that cool stuff Orion and it seems very robust and I just love the idea that it. Put on. By. You know amateur radio operators so before we get into the hardware. What QYC like -- eight you know I -- using this to deploy some. You know like I I first hi hey you know I -- no pop. You know on two with with USB hub and it GPS USB adapter and US be ev do card and and then in update mine motorcycles position when I'm doing some poring through you know the mountains or whatever on the Google Maps this is you know that -- Now to me everything's everything's and jailed because what I've got is a Wi-Fi camera or on camera fuel. So that's what got me interested in this -- what would I need to the hardware wise the license wise well I use and."

" We are FCC licensed. So you would have to have at least technician class license which now on the United States is the -- global license. Six and seven year old children on these licenses it requires. Some knowledge of the rules and regulations. Some knowledge of basic electronic theory some knowledge of how to operate Williams at that point when you've got a license. Your big ego and the modes available to -- it operates in the two meter wave points -- 144 megahertz -- frequency is nationwide. Which. In some ways to be good but it ensures compatibility right up put this under the under the seat of the truck and never have to touch no matter where ago with. -- But that's all you really have to have. All -- geeks -- space. There's forums there web sites -- step by step instruction. That talks you through anything and everything you'd wanna do with that cigarettes. A home they're very robust sites. The do do distributed nature if you lose one. Did you Peter somewhere your network is not -- because something else."

" Yeah well. This time on the show amateur radio operator trade Murphy joins us talk about automatic packet reporting system. Radio licensing. And building -- system on the sheet. -- Good to -- express. He's -- states airforce and didn't get. Easy free web conference. Hello --"

" MacBook signing -- in kitchen and they didn't take it you're expecting me is the fact I've -- things -- looking -- again he's back right. I am actually on -- voters it was venture I'm just crossing. And carrier ring now on I'm way over to you. Augusta me today and end up around. But anyway. We have -- show you guys today we're talking torment for otherwise known as November or pop out tango was going to. Oh look all this talk about how yeah reader. Data network that. I'm sure many people aren't aware I was just fully excited about that it actually stick around. I -- Oh and if you're reasonable looking and motorcycle. Video blog. It's on a different dot com that's -- thing. They like. To its. When it's that you are mixed on -- it -- Netscape -- it works."

" So when most of us think about having fun with wireless between -- edited on eleven Muni Wi-Fi users -- these. But there is a totally cool data network that's been around since from what I understand the eighties we had the pleasure of learning about it tonight because. And four PAT. Or otherwise known as streamer is down in Q after I come down here are welcome as well on a so we've never actually. The -- operator. Him radio operator on the show and I think it's high time because this is the does the you know don't freaking seen this is the the computer hacking scene this is in all of that beforehand."

" Well this is of the network -- logo but it -- and started back in the eighties. Home another ham about -- WB four. And it's a packet switch network we use digital -- Peters but. The beauty of this is you basically need a battery radio and encoder to GPS and -- good ago. You don't have spent a lot of money to do it you can spend a thousand bucks if you've got written or you can build something that's. Right you've you've built this that in order to stay here are a couple hundred write these are just off the shelf parts but before we dive into the the hardware. Let's get a little bit of background here you said that is developed in the eighties were talking that EP RS here not. Packet radio but it's. It's a system that allows us to do what they purest sense for the automatic. Packet reporting system. And it transmits. An amateur radio developed packet protocol called X when he files. I don't know all the particulars of a -- needless to say it it works extremely well. But it allows us to transmit everything from position velocity. Altitude type data. To weather data scientific data. It also includes messaging. And therefore you have this very robust. Network that because. It's very distributed. Can also be extremely reliable. A home. It's all volunteers. This is not commercial at all we don't make any money off of it. We'd pay for all ourselves. A home but it it gives us of a method. To have what we call total tactical awareness of an event. I would of given area all sorts of different things. Where you need to know. Where your personnel or what the position is what the status is. Early in route or at least stationary. And in some cases exactly what that position is and have an immediate okay."

" I love the idea of the fact that this is a wireless network and -- worldwide not just national right and it's. And there's no major telco behind -- support -- this. I find that's so so uninteresting what are some of the common. Practical uses of this can you some examples of how this is the --"

" Everybody's familiar what happened with Katrina you had a vast area where there was simply no communications of structure of the wasn't cellphones there weren't any. Form of packets which radio for public service. No electricity in many places. You did you concerned. AP RS equipped rescuers into this area. If they've got this they don't even have to know where they or for a command center would just. A website that picks up the information or receiver and software or computer to decode packets and put oppositional -- And you know exactly where someone has spent. All the much smaller scale just last week you know and amateur radio operators about a communications for a bike ride that covered the entire county -- panel. Rome lake -- to spots Albania almost down to king William. And the vehicles of all the bike runners for support. We're equipped with they Peoria us which -- well must one know which vehicle was it which. Without having to think about it because you can use -- call science necessary you can beside one side to you can be rest up one rest ought to. And when you've got 700 riders over -- and at a motorcycle following them now yeah over your last -- Erisa you know okay the last -- past the rest up. Total rest up they can break -- Roberts came to rest stop points at three miles down the road someone's been injured. We know exactly where the site wagons or the menace -- Whiting gets to the Ryder. Now we know exactly where the robbery is if we medium best we can provide coordinates and address whatever we need to. To have total awareness of where everybody uses so what's very valuable. On the other and the other thing too is with the messaging capability you can send text messages much like you Woodson. To Twitter or something like that it's about a 140 character message limit. And provide whatever. Information you Walt in that particular. And that's just node to -- so I would note if I were an AP RS operators well unite and speak now do we have to go through a server -- is as the infrastructure when most of it is run through what are called digital reputed for -- Peters and in the Richmond area the Tidewater area of who we're down here. Amateurs to put a very robust network and there's a bootable -- number of them so the coverage is very good. And if you were to go to a website like a purist Arafat. And no particular call -- you -- put it and see their position you can see what did you -- they have -- room to get where they're going. If you can hear -- station direct you can message direct. But part of the packet includes the path to and from that station. So that if you if someone message you and says hello there. You can turn -- say hello back. And it follows the same path back even if you opt repeated if you -- repeater a lot of titles which -- gonna found is. The goal is to get your -- Packets to an Internet Gateway. And people who have home based AP -- stations. Typically will --"

" That data to the Internet so -- hook up the radio tune their Internet connection -- with some some software. Essentially a server -- exactly. And then dye is then and the Internet become the backbone for all the other exactly now there well they don't necessarily. Here we're seeing the the Gateway all they're doing is repeating what they hear -- but they're looking at that path and going okay. I consider this -- so you could could potentially message somebody in California -- even if you couldn't necessarily run a signal there right now radio. There's -- correctional this. All of its 1200 -- Bandwidth is very limited. When when you're dealing with -- of collisions so occur they do occur and then packet -- But I'm assuming that some sort there's gotta be some three checks -- to make sure that if you've got garbage you know it's garbage right they the system will check and it's either rebel a packet which I don't know pocket. But it doesn't care it's a non valid packet just drops. Now you actually use the system on your way down from Richmond -- to packed house and we actually have pulled up. And this is very -- that we can actually see your route and we cannot take a look here at the different. You know the different points points that you you cheated the checkpoints that you -- and so can you kind of show us some of the other things on the map here well for instance. When I was apparently Richmond area. You can see right there with a purple one pops up let's shows the path it took before that the Internet. And it welled up being updated daily chaos or BWJ. -- twelve styles. And would direct in other cases. For instance this packet."

" Whip through the day before RET dash three digit Peter which spells to Dell to the case before why FK. I gate. Which is what -- Elvis website. That is so X."

" I mean you know as as a Wi-Fi geek you know I'm I'm used to dealing with access point three -- and so again that this is. You know that before we had union that cool stuff Orion and it seems very robust and I just love the idea that it. Put on. By. You know amateur radio operators so before we get into the hardware. What QYC like -- eight you know I -- using this to deploy some. You know like I I first hi hey you know I -- no pop. You know on two with with USB hub and it GPS USB adapter and US be ev do card and and then in update mine motorcycles position when I'm doing some poring through you know the mountains or whatever on the Google Maps this is you know that -- Now to me everything's everything's and jailed because what I've got is a Wi-Fi camera or on camera fuel. So that's what got me interested in this -- what would I need to the hardware wise the license wise well I use and."

" We are FCC licensed. So you would have to have at least technician class license which now on the United States is the -- global license. Six and seven year old children on these licenses it requires. Some knowledge of the rules and regulations. Some knowledge of basic electronic theory some knowledge of how to operate Williams at that point when you've got a license. Your big ego and the modes available to -- it operates in the two meter wave points -- 144 megahertz -- frequency is nationwide. Which. In some ways to be good but it ensures compatibility right up put this under the under the seat of the truck and never have to touch no matter where ago with. -- But that's all you really have to have. All -- geeks -- space. There's forums there web sites -- step by step instruction. That talks you through anything and everything you'd wanna do with that cigarettes. A home they're very robust sites. The do do distributed nature if you lose one. Did you Peter somewhere your network is not -- because something else."