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Overscan Sucks! Buying Used HD Gear, MLB + Roku, Drain The Ocean, Rescue Me!

Tuesday, August 18th, 2009 – running time 27:22
$10 Samsung TV from Bestbuy? Roku: a better way to watch MLB in HD? End Overscan: see the whole picture on your HDTV, and the Blu-Ray releases for the week of August 18th.

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HD Nation is your guide to the best in HD content, and the best in home theatre gear, no matter what your budget is!

Robert's looking forward to watching National Geographic's Drain The Ocean he's got saved on his DVR: two hours of CGI-enhanced HD science goodness. (Next airing is Sunday Aug 18 @ 2PM)

What's Patrick watching? Rescue Me, every Tuesday night at 10PM eastern.

He's wondering if his DirecTV DVR (or any HD DVR attached to digital cable or satellite TV service) compress the signal more than what comes from the cable/satellite? Robert's got answers... and we discuss how compression often varies by channel.

HD News

No, you're not buying a 52" Samsung HDTV on BestBuy.com for $10. It's right there in the Best Buy fine print: "Best Buy reserves the right to revoke any stated offer and to correct any errors, inaccuracies or omissions including after an order has been submitted and whether or not the order has been confirmed and your credit card charged."

Sharp's new Aquos DX2 HDTVs will include a Blu-ray recorder, think 30 hours of HD video in MPEG4. Cool or weird, probably won't matter, since it's not very likely to make it sale in the US.

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Roku Player

Major League Baseball fans have a nifty new way to get -every- game in HD onto their HDTV. MLB has partnered with Roku to stream MLB.tv games to the $99 Roku Player. You'll be able to watch 'em on your computer or TV with ease.

How do the MLB games look on the Roku, compared to, say, DirecTV's MLB Extra Innings? Jim Louderback, our resident expert on baseball in HD makes the call!

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This Week's Blu-Ray Releases

The Blu-Ray releases for the week of August 18th:

Showtime's Dexter: The Third Season, Go, Hannah Montana: The Movie, The Last House On The Left, Playtime, Sons of Anarchy: Season One... just in time to catch up before Season Two starts on FX, and Surveillance.

And, pushed out a week, The Last Starfighter, which, happily, turns out to be a new transfer, not a recycle of the weak version that was on HD DVD. You can get the full scoop on how the new transfer looks in Gerald Orr's review on HighDefDiscNews.com

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Overscan Sucks

Overscan sucks... it's the part of the image you normall don't see 'cause it's pushed 'off the edge' of your HDTV screen. Most modern HDTVs have it turned off, but if you're like Jeff out in Washington, DC, (or Patrick) you've seen overscan make the toolbars disappear on your HDTV desktop, or lost lots of your Blu-ray's pixels off the edge of the screen.

We show you how to make overscan go away!

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Recession Selection

Craigslist.org, our favorite online classified site.

Buyer Beware! Buying used gear has saved us a ton of money over the years, especially on audio equipment. We talk you through how to get the best deals, how to ID deals that aren't very good, and how to avoid getting ripped off!

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" Coming up at today's episode isn't over can't see the picture Roger ED TB a better way to watch Major League Baseball -- something else. Why you're here -- the Blu-ray releases for the week of August 18 2000 not. This busy deviation."

" Yeah. Today's episode is brought to you by -- And -- got cut off. Welcome -- the nation on -- and I'm Patrick Norton each nation as your guide the best and HD content. -- So I've noticed compression artifacts on it that I never really noticed during the sort of live stream before so I -- question for you. So it goes if it's compressed of the mother ship goes up the satellite down to my satellite television receiver. -- the TV are rules that stuff on the hard drive is compressing it more or to just passing through eight Steve compressed video from the satellite. It shouldn't he be compressing anything it should be taken the raw video stream that's coming from the transmission from DirecTV headquarters and hand going right to the DVR right into the hard drive. On an -- And that's the same also with cable transmissions as well the other cable HD DVR it should be taking that -- usually it's an mpeg two format extreme although. Nowadays with broadcast. So what reception you're actually using mpeg four format most of the time especially for the HD program. Because more efficiently give you more channels so the answers short answers and now they should be leading it adds is that videos being delivered right to the hard drive. Cool you know -- pressing him so it's. It's it's looking that way at the beginning and it's gonna look back when your TV unfortunately it's like watched you detailed notes and screen grabs you would have not left the National Geographic channel. -- snatch Leo have a terrific episode of the show I think this could be a law totally the ocean and I -- saved my DVR right now. Essentially it's two hours of CGI enhanced HD science goodness. They actively taking the planet taken on the sea floor topography information we currently have. And basically generated the digital globe and -- the oceans -- what planet would look like without water was -- and -- northern California public -- all computer graphics a little disappointed when hundreds of people none of it. Preview it's like to think about why it sits there as an island but if you take the waterway -- sitting on the peak of a gigantic mounds and it's just. Very cool the next airing of the show will be Sunday August -- at 11 am. Get nothing going on set it up record it it's good two hours I think. -- looking -- all right time here HD news articles by the time you're seeing this the political mail in Queens were burning best -- amazing ten dollar deal a particular Samsung. Eight victories Sampson HT TV has died down -- the fine print on the company's website. I could spend five -- but in short if they screw up. Or they get hacked or they just like the price they had they basically get to revoke your order. Return your cash it's been charged cancel the order even if it hasn't been charged or has been charged. And you're not you know 2700 dollar -- ten -- yes it's that the polite -- saying hey look we screwed up. Four or would screw you know why I get the fixes like. 42 -- down if we screw up sorry but -- give you something -- and dollar TV people not -- to exercise it that would that would be towards."

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" Now with a link to it -- like in nineteen -- 1985 cents to keep my advice there. Anyway. -- both like to report to keep and -- about the sharp. They haven't China Japan only yet this is for Japan only now they have originally they have a TV that the built in Blu-ray player. But now they're introducing the are quotes DX two HDTV. That's gonna basically corporate couple rear quarter the store thirty hours VC video feed him for more. And it probably doesn't matter what I think since he -- he's probably never going to be outsell the US but. Is that something you would want I don't -- of -- a Blu-ray recorder it's possibly -- and never gonna come the United States. HD recording through television directly on -- disk. I bet -- execute that part of the US population that was typical business circles that if there were bright blue -- this it was according to an HD disc. -- And now he unaudited ability that would TV but you've never been heavily in New York Hilton. -- interest sharks never gonna give us one because they're never gonna sell -- until I really willing to pay five bucks for playing Blu-ray has been about the outlook they are now accountable for the betterment forty bucks for Hillary just two years ago. -- only 25 or fifty gigabyte -- Yeah you're done and I'm just another part. More partners to open up the best deal on Major League Baseball and I -- it later on our perceptions election we're gonna save little money when you're shopping. First though take a moment but what of the sponsors that helps us bring the show team. Video games are."

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" We love HD content no matter where it comes from here written -- there are a -- baseball -- that's what we were very interesting -- broke to announce the partnership. With Major League Baseball to screen. Teams that 99 dollar broken Netflix player. Joining us right now is our resident I got busy every Mets game possible except for this season because apparently they're sucking Revision 3 CEO Jim -- Mac do you. How many games do you do you normally watch. You know what -- 162 games a year I may watch sixty -- the -- in the background. But I like watching the games and -- this go they don't play a lot of little regular TV so in the past what I've done. And when did this -- subscribe to the extra innings on DirecTV so I can see a lot of the games now looks like there's a better way. So the -- of what's the firm for Turkey these extra innings what's been the kind of annual cost them what sort of what tasty which I wanna do it's about 25300. Dollars that's a pretty healthy and that's on top of like probably hundred bucks your pain exactly. -- so how's the quality -- the DirecTV transmission beautiful green looks really good it's you know date it's -- really good HD I have a 52 inch screen and it looks really good so is it is good is the over the air broadcast -- though I mean it's a little bit less good because you know what it's impressive mpeg four putting you know there's so it's not going to be. As good as some of that over there but it's good enough and it looks great. So -- news MLB that -- year mlb.com. Premium how does that stack so here's what happens -- that you can subscribe -- do this for a couple years to go online to the mlb.com. TV package. This year was the first time that they had a really good looking HD version they did so -- last -- They're back to flash. And 410 dollars for the year. You could basically watch any game live or on demand. Except for the ones in your home market so they black -- local games Mets fans ever Cisco not a problem right giants fans San Francisco that would be an issue of and eighties fan its emphasis -- thing. If the 75 mile radius for the blackouts that is competitive. So the Adobe there -- hundreds of dollars to get all this stuff it's great but and I did a little bit of attest to this earlier this year put up my blog lot of back dot com. I took my notebook computer hooked it up to my big screen and I checked that HD version verses the DirecTV stuff not nearly as good really balky. Appear in the bottom of your notebook up every time -- wanna watch a game. But that's why when this came out on the Brokaw was so excited. Because -- you know it's essentially the same service and a single subscriptions too much on your wrote to or you know exactly -- just like Netflix and the setup is just like Netflix basically. Where you -- have LB dot TV slash broke -- you get a code that you type in that code authorizes your. PC or your Internet account to work on the road -- so. How much are all these gains in the NBA needs to be quite. There -- they wait -- okay. They're always did they always good good. With the -- I think it's really caught -- as I walk you through off -- this is the -- interface here in your hands on video Netflix of course but the mlb.com beta. Just came out. And the neat thing that I like about it is he got all these games are on demand but there also live -- you can pick. Which version to listen to so we'll go back to yesterday he did like your home or away announcer or the giants and now I'm gonna go to the -- version this is the Mets game from last night which I've not watched yet. October when it comes to sports I'm fine watching it on demand. You know afterwards if I don't know the score. So I don't know the score the -- great experience for me for those who aren't particularly familiar with the roof to boxes if he doesn't caches and automatically download additional hard drives and it is essentially streaming over the net. And you're gonna you're fairly healthy broadband connection yeah it it'll dumbed down so you get a less high definition signal if you only have you say. You know -- Labarca remake of the program works pretty well all of this is basically get the home announcer the away announcer. Right and higher as about that I wanna listen to my favorite announcers the Mets once all display that. There was already watching this you can start from the beginning -- resume. And you'll see what happens is it retrieved it and every time you fast forward it's always that take a couple seconds ten to thirty seconds to actually get to that point of the video. These -- doing it right now. There a couple of issues without one if you watch the game of the man was like we're doing and if you want to lot of they don't actually show the commercials. -- the commercial breaks happen on demand. You get that to the three minute break where they business flop -- so it's commercial free do you get a black space yeah -- that wealth up black space you get a particular image but we just turn this down. So it is really similar to the to the online version is some blocking is because suppression artifacts especially in this a lot of motion you know I think -- and I could be fooling myself here. But it consider -- notebook computer up as well. I think this is the better looking -- while my notebook computer however -- happen to view dvi. But I can about just going to be that much better. And it is noticeably worse than DirecTV. You steal a lot of blocking this and you can see when the key frames happened you see blocking this. Here on the on the field and on the dirt. But you know what. I'm just I really -- at straws here because when you sit down and get -- nice distance away and watch the game. It's pretty darn good experience so if you're obsessive on the HD experience local over the years and -- past next would be something like DirecTV crises past. But this is a third of the price of the season -- no DirecTV subscription. It's available on your notebook anywhere you travel and you broke two I'm thinking you've given us a big thumbs up I give the big thumbs up -- the -- we have a lot of baseball fans as you said. Ron Richards accused -- doesn't have cable subscribers to MLB saw this we're playing whether rollers like I'm buying that box today. I think he's the host of iFanboy occasion and who were on results or marketing guru exact that we had and Ryan Bennett who runs all programming is also a big baseball fan. He saw this and said terrible lucky I would pay the money for the cable and satellite. So it's all about what you could put up with me next year. I have not pair of -- boxer DirecTV this is good enough. And -- more games to so hats off to -- could have -- for putting on what I think is critical package and it indignantly yesterday at a Feller. NHL. Or parent NASCAR so the thought I'd amid an audience that information but I got to take no because DirecTV pays. Boatloads of money to be the only wants to show out of market games so. You can stream MLB -- an H NFL football games if you're outside the US -- speakers here NHL I would think so but luckily it's."

" Jim thank you so much and you don't what we gonna finish off of the Blu-ray releases for the week of August 18. Dexter the third season ago Hannah Montana the movie will last house on the left -- Sons of Anarchy season one and surveillance. And push data we the last star fighter which happily turned out to be -- fresh capture and not -- recycle the super mediocre HDDVD version. Lot of noise reduction has been applied to the -- is gone but the folks at -- get this he's promised a major improvement especially color accuracy. Over the DVD coming up next how to fix over -- you can see the whole picture on your HDTV and of course -- recessions selection but first let's take a moment to thank one of our sponsors. To your local video store looks like -- he could rattle out of VHS tapes in Chinese. Chances are your local video store at least -- dvds if you were using that -- you could have Blu-ray discs shipped right to your door."

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" Jeff -- from Washington DC he suffered the heartbreak of over -- a situation a lot of beach TV users with a home theater PCs can relate to you. Jeff writes I've got an old as Westinghouse LMV 37 W one Yamaha RXB 565 receiver and a computer running the ball into the radeon 9800 graphics card. Or indeed the from computer directly into the Westinghouse works fine but when I try using eight you might out -- to -- over -- the edges of my computer screen. Any ideas how I can fix this or is it time for me to buy new TV we're really in my ports -- Washington DC. Okay I hate the over scam get like thirties have image HP when I was trying to run an OS-X box through it -- entire. Basically the entire dock at the bottom. Off the screen same problem actually with windows but it was actually the fix it in windows by adjusting. The graphics card what he's -- using the driver settings and reflect that they be oversee and basically means that the the the the display does not match the pixel can be had to explain to restrict."

" I -- look at it is the video the video is being scaled beyond the borders of the active display so instead of the video stopping here video stops somewhere out here totally it's just being stretched beyond the borders of that it's great screen and -- to do that but normally. With any kind of good video source you don't want that happened because you're wasting any information that could be. Creating a more detailed picture -- part of the -- video -- that allowed basic you broadcast centers to compensate for all the weirdness -- television while back that he threw in -- and with two TDs around the borders occasionally get distortions or. Nowadays you'll even see like on standard Def programming also get media industry at the top looks like flashing blinking light so it dots the top of the screen so people find that very offensive that's not the TV doing it it's the broadcaster who shouldn't be doing it that is and -- can help hide that but. In most cases in with high Def content. That's the last thing you want -- to be wasting pixels. So if I have over -- measure how do we deal. Test patterns of the easiest way I have. Test -- from HD basics -- this growing up on the background. Also the spears and muscle this has a great. Test pattern as well that'll show you down the pixel how far the images being -- off the edges and historical is basically you you you look at the line that's appearing at the edge of your monitor. The framer on your monitor -- it tells you how many pixels are missing totally if you -- just tells you yes the picture is being scale beyond the -- screen and you're going to. Hopefully the picture controls to be able to crack that is sometimes there's an issue is it it's less common now than it was even a year or two ago. But for example I have a 720. 66 pixels wide right well -- Is over can sometimes over can sometimes cause by weird LTT measurements I find going back when you look at these 768 here -- 720 deals and he's. Most of them had very. A couple years ago you it was refined controls that would like where the picture size -- to minimize over -- you'll see every pixel. Even if it's even if you're displaying 1080. 720. I still don't want it stretched off at least you know scale it to what you need to for the resolution of the screen the people pencil and unfortunately I find those older sets. Most of them don't like that nowadays that's changed a little bits on the new sixty. Will -- you full understanding -- the opposite of votes and a lot of panels actually now do you offer it yeah it's a setting where you actually turn over skin on and off totally acceptance I find that its its. It's inconsistent from both brands and with most that of inputs and video formats. It's a real crapshoot out there iPod in general that your 1080 lines signals. 1080 1080 I video into a 1080 PTV. You usually able to correct that except for rear projection TVs that -- that I might even get a flat panels. You're usually able to do 121 with the picture settings built into the TV. Now in his case he was talking about. And navy are set up being added to the mix and it signals coming from a personal computer which. Like you -- mentioning before if you're looking at your desktop screen on a on TV you don't want to be scaled up yet -- might not see your your toolbar at the bottom or top or. The feeling that I wonder why would why would you have no over skin problem with a direct connection over dvi port and have it over skin problems. On running through the video receiver there could be something that the videos of receivers doing that signal they could be maybe converting it to a different format that's incompatible with understand on his TV especially with converting from dvi -- Myers opened the -- You should still be the same but it might be doing something I'd like converting RGB signal -- to say component video signal than the TV does. Different things either one of those. So basically wanna check for the past 31 graveyard natured teasing the performance of the radio receivers and demanding the video. The next thing you wanna do is -- is the latest video card drivers with your computer because the newer drivers are better at automatically detecting exporting those features. Also took the different settings that's another thing to look at. Most of timing when they're in the -- and overseeing correction features if it if -- and I'm unable to do with the television itself you can go on and at least. You know play around with how big picture is or not right with an immediate -- like and steal it in you scale out until it literally gives you -- you -- not history only fix available for -- or rear projection TVs but thank goodness that's still the only fix available for my particular team that is and and again if the TV like this case he has a TV would dual dvi -- it is essentially. Upscale. Hi my PC modern and he has no problem -- runs dvi right out of computer in the display. That's the that's the deal and I'll -- right -- that works just use that are not able to run through the convenience of an AV receiver -- manipulative switching. At least you do have one option that does work force so it and think to just -- if you're doing 1080 I output from a computer Kennedy in 1920 by 1080. Check to see with refresh rate is being -- Make sure that its sixtieth it's not sixty. See it's thirty hurts odds are that's in 1080 I to the TV in there might be something different happening there as well. Like I was trying to say it's basically the TVs can do different things with -- different video formats and different inputs and in terms of its ability for -- correct for. So basically. Play around with if you really mean UN. Run it through the receiver -- receivers which it. Play around with the Richards apparently settings yet to pass through mode. Make your -- that the thirty earth is that a sixty acres totaling any other thoughts I mean because obviously the easy fix it shut to TV first to make -- exercise also the first place to make sure that tedious. Display is big of a picture as popular as many pixels on screens and yet. And test patterns are ideal if you don't have a test -- you -- this of the regular video source. The little bugs that are in the corner of the screen like your your station identifier if you see that move suddenly into the center of the picture more you know --"

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" In these tough economic times we. All want to save a bunker to -- that means it's time for our recession selection this week's election Craig's list. That's right people the online classifieds website that many of us use to sell and buy stuff local. There are some great deals on used HD here on Craigslist people solving it here because they either upgraded -- moving or just need to cash. Usually you find the biggest collection in larger metro areas in terms of the Craig's list pages. Just click on electronics or computer under the -- sales section and browse away. If you know what you want either specific model -- type of component. Sales by about one receiver just do a general search for results keeping score some amazing deals but do your homework first especially since -- Newark HTTP -- whole lot more performance for less cash. Surround sound here also is a lot more gracefully. -- Craig's list all the time he should at least give it points."

" Although all the stereo equipment from my car -- Kimberly Craig list. Actually a lot of accurate excuse I've managed to get rid of an old TV before upgraded my first flat panel I counseled little tube TV on Craig's list to a person who. Really got a couple of things it was -- it was solid in what we're talking about two I had -- when the person came over look at it. I had set up and running with some content on it's they can play with it check it all out make it really easy to get a minute now. That's sexism we should talk a little bit about buying second and use your discontinued here where you buy it from a please -- Craig's list are ready go to local shop. Lucky you know local high end stereo sort of probably not gonna hold you over except maybe on the price. So research the -- aspects potential -- issues with your your you know and the current price -- the price it sold for. But the prices sells for now we're pretty CTV -- trying to get the top dollar what what they paid for five years ago look. That's ridiculous because HDTVs change so fast. Nowadays most TVs have about a six month lifespan before they're gone and if you look at the transfer pricing with a TV -- throughout its lifespan. You'll find -- at the end the price actually start to creep back up because the number of them that are currently available decreases its that whole supply demand and when it gets to that point. I wouldn't even bother you can't go by pricing at that point is that that point of the game because. It's artificially increased threats are so few left and got -- really should be considered a newer model but if you're trying to compare what the final Craig's list of the new price quote unquote. Be aware that that can't be the case with he's purchases and we just just take a look at -- in -- 700 dollars iPhone Craig's list. And with 700 dollars -- or Costco or your local big box store like best buy digital Davila while it could not a new TV it was 1080 720. 37 inches. Even more important -- If they won't let you heard it on before you leave the house it's probably -- make sure runs the way it's supposed to leave the seller refuses just walk away because all sales are final. He not deal with the store so no returns in the product is probably an awards -- use he probably not gonna have any help from the manufacturer. And by the way it's really -- actually you fuel bill of sale for something if they want like you know. Put their -- monitor their driver's license number on there. They're you know could we saw in the roommates TV -- because that's who TV yeah. Good job but somebody's house the kids are playing in the darkness of you know it's a big normal houseful of people happy is great if she -- somebody's apartment and there's like five HDTV standing up there. He might be something you might not wanna be able to -- Only -- and know what you want right -- yeah idea -- to see if there's a deal to be had but you know what are some great deals on new gear out there nowadays as well so. I choose your battles yet and -- opposite of buyer beware look at somebody says just. Just you know wired me the money and then comes to the television the Cleveland that's a rip off the final responsibility. Protect yourself from bad deals is used to make sure works before you leave make sure you're getting a proper deal. You know it -- He's like. I don't wanna take it out of the box you can check it when you get home."

" Being. I ice less impressed on the TV I was getting rid of just so that I would have to help them move it out to the car but ended up -- Just to ensure that it would have a good experience with the purchase there is a nice man could have well. And I think that's it for this week's episode of HD nation. We have a ton of questions piled up the old inbox and so will be answered -- of them next week and paper wanted a teenage she'd probably love movies. Ever wondered how -- credo those cool special effects usually watch film right you're gonna find out it is. Hysterical these guys -- street the magic of film making your gonna learn how all the facts and science and actually basic. Camera operation is done. This weaker industry had -- set someone on fire in suck out their soul group -- I can they get two -- people put on that list and you'll like making movies just watching movies. Where do little laughter -- when this -- on the Phil Bryant revolution every Thursday at revision3.com. Slash Phil Bryant. We help you guys enjoy this episode of HD nation as always we wanna know what you think. The -- your comments questions or suggestions. HD nation at revision3.com. You'll find links galore the show notes -- reviewed accomplice eighteen nation is doing a favor if you like what you see. Forward the link to Revision 3 dot complication nation or better yet when the flash player and his little incredible -- you can email to people tell Fred. Let them see the show because we wanted to -- it. Bring you. But hey thank you for watching. I'm Robert -- Patrick Norton we'll see you next week."

" Coming up at today's episode isn't over can't see the picture Roger ED TB a better way to watch Major League Baseball -- something else. Why you're here -- the Blu-ray releases for the week of August 18 2000 not. This busy deviation."

" Yeah. Today's episode is brought to you by -- And -- got cut off. Welcome -- the nation on -- and I'm Patrick Norton each nation as your guide the best and HD content. -- So I've noticed compression artifacts on it that I never really noticed during the sort of live stream before so I -- question for you. So it goes if it's compressed of the mother ship goes up the satellite down to my satellite television receiver. -- the TV are rules that stuff on the hard drive is compressing it more or to just passing through eight Steve compressed video from the satellite. It shouldn't he be compressing anything it should be taken the raw video stream that's coming from the transmission from DirecTV headquarters and hand going right to the DVR right into the hard drive. On an -- And that's the same also with cable transmissions as well the other cable HD DVR it should be taking that -- usually it's an mpeg two format extreme although. Nowadays with broadcast. So what reception you're actually using mpeg four format most of the time especially for the HD program. Because more efficiently give you more channels so the answers short answers and now they should be leading it adds is that videos being delivered right to the hard drive. Cool you know -- pressing him so it's. It's it's looking that way at the beginning and it's gonna look back when your TV unfortunately it's like watched you detailed notes and screen grabs you would have not left the National Geographic channel. -- snatch Leo have a terrific episode of the show I think this could be a law totally the ocean and I -- saved my DVR right now. Essentially it's two hours of CGI enhanced HD science goodness. They actively taking the planet taken on the sea floor topography information we currently have. And basically generated the digital globe and -- the oceans -- what planet would look like without water was -- and -- northern California public -- all computer graphics a little disappointed when hundreds of people none of it. Preview it's like to think about why it sits there as an island but if you take the waterway -- sitting on the peak of a gigantic mounds and it's just. Very cool the next airing of the show will be Sunday August -- at 11 am. Get nothing going on set it up record it it's good two hours I think. -- looking -- all right time here HD news articles by the time you're seeing this the political mail in Queens were burning best -- amazing ten dollar deal a particular Samsung. Eight victories Sampson HT TV has died down -- the fine print on the company's website. I could spend five -- but in short if they screw up. Or they get hacked or they just like the price they had they basically get to revoke your order. Return your cash it's been charged cancel the order even if it hasn't been charged or has been charged. And you're not you know 2700 dollar -- ten -- yes it's that the polite -- saying hey look we screwed up. Four or would screw you know why I get the fixes like. 42 -- down if we screw up sorry but -- give you something -- and dollar TV people not -- to exercise it that would that would be towards."

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" We love HD content no matter where it comes from here written -- there are a -- baseball -- that's what we were very interesting -- broke to announce the partnership. With Major League Baseball to screen. Teams that 99 dollar broken Netflix player. Joining us right now is our resident I got busy every Mets game possible except for this season because apparently they're sucking Revision 3 CEO Jim -- Mac do you. How many games do you do you normally watch. You know what -- 162 games a year I may watch sixty -- the -- in the background. But I like watching the games and -- this go they don't play a lot of little regular TV so in the past what I've done. And when did this -- subscribe to the extra innings on DirecTV so I can see a lot of the games now looks like there's a better way. So the -- of what's the firm for Turkey these extra innings what's been the kind of annual cost them what sort of what tasty which I wanna do it's about 25300. Dollars that's a pretty healthy and that's on top of like probably hundred bucks your pain exactly. -- so how's the quality -- the DirecTV transmission beautiful green looks really good it's you know date it's -- really good HD I have a 52 inch screen and it looks really good so is it is good is the over the air broadcast -- though I mean it's a little bit less good because you know what it's impressive mpeg four putting you know there's so it's not going to be. As good as some of that over there but it's good enough and it looks great. So -- news MLB that -- year mlb.com. Premium how does that stack so here's what happens -- that you can subscribe -- do this for a couple years to go online to the mlb.com. TV package. This year was the first time that they had a really good looking HD version they did so -- last -- They're back to flash. And 410 dollars for the year. You could basically watch any game live or on demand. Except for the ones in your home market so they black -- local games Mets fans ever Cisco not a problem right giants fans San Francisco that would be an issue of and eighties fan its emphasis -- thing. If the 75 mile radius for the blackouts that is competitive. So the Adobe there -- hundreds of dollars to get all this stuff it's great but and I did a little bit of attest to this earlier this year put up my blog lot of back dot com. I took my notebook computer hooked it up to my big screen and I checked that HD version verses the DirecTV stuff not nearly as good really balky. Appear in the bottom of your notebook up every time -- wanna watch a game. But that's why when this came out on the Brokaw was so excited. Because -- you know it's essentially the same service and a single subscriptions too much on your wrote to or you know exactly -- just like Netflix and the setup is just like Netflix basically. Where you -- have LB dot TV slash broke -- you get a code that you type in that code authorizes your. PC or your Internet account to work on the road -- so. How much are all these gains in the NBA needs to be quite. There -- they wait -- okay. They're always did they always good good. With the -- I think it's really caught -- as I walk you through off -- this is the -- interface here in your hands on video Netflix of course but the mlb.com beta. Just came out. And the neat thing that I like about it is he got all these games are on demand but there also live -- you can pick. Which version to listen to so we'll go back to yesterday he did like your home or away announcer or the giants and now I'm gonna go to the -- version this is the Mets game from last night which I've not watched yet. October when it comes to sports I'm fine watching it on demand. You know afterwards if I don't know the score. So I don't know the score the -- great experience for me for those who aren't particularly familiar with the roof to boxes if he doesn't caches and automatically download additional hard drives and it is essentially streaming over the net. And you're gonna you're fairly healthy broadband connection yeah it it'll dumbed down so you get a less high definition signal if you only have you say. You know -- Labarca remake of the program works pretty well all of this is basically get the home announcer the away announcer. Right and higher as about that I wanna listen to my favorite announcers the Mets once all display that. There was already watching this you can start from the beginning -- resume. And you'll see what happens is it retrieved it and every time you fast forward it's always that take a couple seconds ten to thirty seconds to actually get to that point of the video. These -- doing it right now. There a couple of issues without one if you watch the game of the man was like we're doing and if you want to lot of they don't actually show the commercials. -- the commercial breaks happen on demand. You get that to the three minute break where they business flop -- so it's commercial free do you get a black space yeah -- that wealth up black space you get a particular image but we just turn this down. So it is really similar to the to the online version is some blocking is because suppression artifacts especially in this a lot of motion you know I think -- and I could be fooling myself here. But it consider -- notebook computer up as well. I think this is the better looking -- while my notebook computer however -- happen to view dvi. But I can about just going to be that much better. And it is noticeably worse than DirecTV. You steal a lot of blocking this and you can see when the key frames happened you see blocking this. Here on the on the field and on the dirt. But you know what. I'm just I really -- at straws here because when you sit down and get -- nice distance away and watch the game. It's pretty darn good experience so if you're obsessive on the HD experience local over the years and -- past next would be something like DirecTV crises past. But this is a third of the price of the season -- no DirecTV subscription. It's available on your notebook anywhere you travel and you broke two I'm thinking you've given us a big thumbs up I give the big thumbs up -- the -- we have a lot of baseball fans as you said. Ron Richards accused -- doesn't have cable subscribers to MLB saw this we're playing whether rollers like I'm buying that box today. I think he's the host of iFanboy occasion and who were on results or marketing guru exact that we had and Ryan Bennett who runs all programming is also a big baseball fan. He saw this and said terrible lucky I would pay the money for the cable and satellite. So it's all about what you could put up with me next year. I have not pair of -- boxer DirecTV this is good enough. And -- more games to so hats off to -- could have -- for putting on what I think is critical package and it indignantly yesterday at a Feller. NHL. Or parent NASCAR so the thought I'd amid an audience that information but I got to take no because DirecTV pays. Boatloads of money to be the only wants to show out of market games so. You can stream MLB -- an H NFL football games if you're outside the US -- speakers here NHL I would think so but luckily it's."

" Jim thank you so much and you don't what we gonna finish off of the Blu-ray releases for the week of August 18. Dexter the third season ago Hannah Montana the movie will last house on the left -- Sons of Anarchy season one and surveillance. And push data we the last star fighter which happily turned out to be -- fresh capture and not -- recycle the super mediocre HDDVD version. Lot of noise reduction has been applied to the -- is gone but the folks at -- get this he's promised a major improvement especially color accuracy. Over the DVD coming up next how to fix over -- you can see the whole picture on your HDTV and of course -- recessions selection but first let's take a moment to thank one of our sponsors. To your local video store looks like -- he could rattle out of VHS tapes in Chinese. Chances are your local video store at least -- dvds if you were using that -- you could have Blu-ray discs shipped right to your door."

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" Jeff -- from Washington DC he suffered the heartbreak of over -- a situation a lot of beach TV users with a home theater PCs can relate to you. Jeff writes I've got an old as Westinghouse LMV 37 W one Yamaha RXB 565 receiver and a computer running the ball into the radeon 9800 graphics card. Or indeed the from computer directly into the Westinghouse works fine but when I try using eight you might out -- to -- over -- the edges of my computer screen. Any ideas how I can fix this or is it time for me to buy new TV we're really in my ports -- Washington DC. Okay I hate the over scam get like thirties have image HP when I was trying to run an OS-X box through it -- entire. Basically the entire dock at the bottom. Off the screen same problem actually with windows but it was actually the fix it in windows by adjusting. The graphics card what he's -- using the driver settings and reflect that they be oversee and basically means that the the the the display does not match the pixel can be had to explain to restrict."

" I -- look at it is the video the video is being scaled beyond the borders of the active display so instead of the video stopping here video stops somewhere out here totally it's just being stretched beyond the borders of that it's great screen and -- to do that but normally. With any kind of good video source you don't want that happened because you're wasting any information that could be. Creating a more detailed picture -- part of the -- video -- that allowed basic you broadcast centers to compensate for all the weirdness -- television while back that he threw in -- and with two TDs around the borders occasionally get distortions or. Nowadays you'll even see like on standard Def programming also get media industry at the top looks like flashing blinking light so it dots the top of the screen so people find that very offensive that's not the TV doing it it's the broadcaster who shouldn't be doing it that is and -- can help hide that but. In most cases in with high Def content. That's the last thing you want -- to be wasting pixels. So if I have over -- measure how do we deal. Test patterns of the easiest way I have. Test -- from HD basics -- this growing up on the background. Also the spears and muscle this has a great. Test pattern as well that'll show you down the pixel how far the images being -- off the edges and historical is basically you you you look at the line that's appearing at the edge of your monitor. The framer on your monitor -- it tells you how many pixels are missing totally if you -- just tells you yes the picture is being scale beyond the -- screen and you're going to. Hopefully the picture controls to be able to crack that is sometimes there's an issue is it it's less common now than it was even a year or two ago. But for example I have a 720. 66 pixels wide right well -- Is over can sometimes over can sometimes cause by weird LTT measurements I find going back when you look at these 768 here -- 720 deals and he's. Most of them had very. A couple years ago you it was refined controls that would like where the picture size -- to minimize over -- you'll see every pixel. Even if it's even if you're displaying 1080. 720. I still don't want it stretched off at least you know scale it to what you need to for the resolution of the screen the people pencil and unfortunately I find those older sets. Most of them don't like that nowadays that's changed a little bits on the new sixty. Will -- you full understanding -- the opposite of votes and a lot of panels actually now do you offer it yeah it's a setting where you actually turn over skin on and off totally acceptance I find that its its. It's inconsistent from both brands and with most that of inputs and video formats. It's a real crapshoot out there iPod in general that your 1080 lines signals. 1080 1080 I video into a 1080 PTV. You usually able to correct that except for rear projection TVs that -- that I might even get a flat panels. You're usually able to do 121 with the picture settings built into the TV. Now in his case he was talking about. And navy are set up being added to the mix and it signals coming from a personal computer which. Like you -- mentioning before if you're looking at your desktop screen on a on TV you don't want to be scaled up yet -- might not see your your toolbar at the bottom or top or. The feeling that I wonder why would why would you have no over skin problem with a direct connection over dvi port and have it over skin problems. On running through the video receiver there could be something that the videos of receivers doing that signal they could be maybe converting it to a different format that's incompatible with understand on his TV especially with converting from dvi -- Myers opened the -- You should still be the same but it might be doing something I'd like converting RGB signal -- to say component video signal than the TV does. Different things either one of those. So basically wanna check for the past 31 graveyard natured teasing the performance of the radio receivers and demanding the video. The next thing you wanna do is -- is the latest video card drivers with your computer because the newer drivers are better at automatically detecting exporting those features. Also took the different settings that's another thing to look at. Most of timing when they're in the -- and overseeing correction features if it if -- and I'm unable to do with the television itself you can go on and at least. You know play around with how big picture is or not right with an immediate -- like and steal it in you scale out until it literally gives you -- you -- not history only fix available for -- or rear projection TVs but thank goodness that's still the only fix available for my particular team that is and and again if the TV like this case he has a TV would dual dvi -- it is essentially. Upscale. Hi my PC modern and he has no problem -- runs dvi right out of computer in the display. That's the that's the deal and I'll -- right -- that works just use that are not able to run through the convenience of an AV receiver -- manipulative switching. At least you do have one option that does work force so it and think to just -- if you're doing 1080 I output from a computer Kennedy in 1920 by 1080. Check to see with refresh rate is being -- Make sure that its sixtieth it's not sixty. See it's thirty hurts odds are that's in 1080 I to the TV in there might be something different happening there as well. Like I was trying to say it's basically the TVs can do different things with -- different video formats and different inputs and in terms of its ability for -- correct for. So basically. Play around with if you really mean UN. Run it through the receiver -- receivers which it. Play around with the Richards apparently settings yet to pass through mode. Make your -- that the thirty earth is that a sixty acres totaling any other thoughts I mean because obviously the easy fix it shut to TV first to make -- exercise also the first place to make sure that tedious. Display is big of a picture as popular as many pixels on screens and yet. And test patterns are ideal if you don't have a test -- you -- this of the regular video source. The little bugs that are in the corner of the screen like your your station identifier if you see that move suddenly into the center of the picture more you know --"

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" In these tough economic times we. All want to save a bunker to -- that means it's time for our recession selection this week's election Craig's list. That's right people the online classifieds website that many of us use to sell and buy stuff local. There are some great deals on used HD here on Craigslist people solving it here because they either upgraded -- moving or just need to cash. Usually you find the biggest collection in larger metro areas in terms of the Craig's list pages. Just click on electronics or computer under the -- sales section and browse away. If you know what you want either specific model -- type of component. Sales by about one receiver just do a general search for results keeping score some amazing deals but do your homework first especially since -- Newark HTTP -- whole lot more performance for less cash. Surround sound here also is a lot more gracefully. -- Craig's list all the time he should at least give it points."

" Although all the stereo equipment from my car -- Kimberly Craig list. Actually a lot of accurate excuse I've managed to get rid of an old TV before upgraded my first flat panel I counseled little tube TV on Craig's list to a person who. Really got a couple of things it was -- it was solid in what we're talking about two I had -- when the person came over look at it. I had set up and running with some content on it's they can play with it check it all out make it really easy to get a minute now. That's sexism we should talk a little bit about buying second and use your discontinued here where you buy it from a please -- Craig's list are ready go to local shop. Lucky you know local high end stereo sort of probably not gonna hold you over except maybe on the price. So research the -- aspects potential -- issues with your your you know and the current price -- the price it sold for. But the prices sells for now we're pretty CTV -- trying to get the top dollar what what they paid for five years ago look. That's ridiculous because HDTVs change so fast. Nowadays most TVs have about a six month lifespan before they're gone and if you look at the transfer pricing with a TV -- throughout its lifespan. You'll find -- at the end the price actually start to creep back up because the number of them that are currently available decreases its that whole supply demand and when it gets to that point. I wouldn't even bother you can't go by pricing at that point is that that point of the game because. It's artificially increased threats are so few left and got -- really should be considered a newer model but if you're trying to compare what the final Craig's list of the new price quote unquote. Be aware that that can't be the case with he's purchases and we just just take a look at -- in -- 700 dollars iPhone Craig's list. And with 700 dollars -- or Costco or your local big box store like best buy digital Davila while it could not a new TV it was 1080 720. 37 inches. Even more important -- If they won't let you heard it on before you leave the house it's probably -- make sure runs the way it's supposed to leave the seller refuses just walk away because all sales are final. He not deal with the store so no returns in the product is probably an awards -- use he probably not gonna have any help from the manufacturer. And by the way it's really -- actually you fuel bill of sale for something if they want like you know. Put their -- monitor their driver's license number on there. They're you know could we saw in the roommates TV -- because that's who TV yeah. Good job but somebody's house the kids are playing in the darkness of you know it's a big normal houseful of people happy is great if she -- somebody's apartment and there's like five HDTV standing up there. He might be something you might not wanna be able to -- Only -- and know what you want right -- yeah idea -- to see if there's a deal to be had but you know what are some great deals on new gear out there nowadays as well so. I choose your battles yet and -- opposite of buyer beware look at somebody says just. Just you know wired me the money and then comes to the television the Cleveland that's a rip off the final responsibility. Protect yourself from bad deals is used to make sure works before you leave make sure you're getting a proper deal. You know it -- He's like. I don't wanna take it out of the box you can check it when you get home."

" Being. I ice less impressed on the TV I was getting rid of just so that I would have to help them move it out to the car but ended up -- Just to ensure that it would have a good experience with the purchase there is a nice man could have well. And I think that's it for this week's episode of HD nation. We have a ton of questions piled up the old inbox and so will be answered -- of them next week and paper wanted a teenage she'd probably love movies. Ever wondered how -- credo those cool special effects usually watch film right you're gonna find out it is. Hysterical these guys -- street the magic of film making your gonna learn how all the facts and science and actually basic. Camera operation is done. This weaker industry had -- set someone on fire in suck out their soul group -- I can they get two -- people put on that list and you'll like making movies just watching movies. Where do little laughter -- when this -- on the Phil Bryant revolution every Thursday at revision3.com. Slash Phil Bryant. We help you guys enjoy this episode of HD nation as always we wanna know what you think. The -- your comments questions or suggestions. HD nation at revision3.com. You'll find links galore the show notes -- reviewed accomplice eighteen nation is doing a favor if you like what you see. Forward the link to Revision 3 dot complication nation or better yet when the flash player and his little incredible -- you can email to people tell Fred. Let them see the show because we wanted to -- it. Bring you. But hey thank you for watching. I'm Robert -- Patrick Norton we'll see you next week."

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Episode 6 - Overscan Sucks! Buying Used HD Gear, MLB + Roku, Drain The Ocean, Rescue Me! [Discussion]

$10 Samsung TV from Bestbuy? Roku: a better way to watch MLB in HD? End Overscan: see the whole picture on your HDTV, and the Blu-Ray releases for the week of August 18th.

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chiefted
3 months ago

MLB.tv

Loved the section about MLB.tv on the Roku.

Currently using the MLB.tv package, with a MacMini
and Plex. IMHO its probably just as good as the DirecTV
MLB package that I had last year. Being able to pick and
choice the feed makes it better than DirecTV and well for
the price its a "can't be beat" purchase.
todd_murphy
3 months ago

strange sounds

Did anyone else notice the strange noises in the background it kinda sounded like a radio station was coming over the mics
Big_CP
3 months ago
Yeah - I noticed that background noise too.
crabcakes
3 months ago
I would buy a roku box if they did the same thing with NHL.
mathwhiz
3 months ago
Great episode. Would have been nice if you showed an overscan test pattern as part of the episode for those of us who watch your video on our TVs to see how much (if any) overscan we have. I know I have overscan. I also know how to go into the service menu to turn it off - however there is a bug with my specific model of TV (Samsung DLP RPTV) that the setting doesn't stick so next time you turn the TV on, the overscan is back :( Oh well - will have to live with it for now until I get a new TV - which I'll make sure I can turn overscan off.

Rich
davmoo
3 months ago
Robert is right on, Drain the Ocean is some serious HD visual eye candy. What's under all that water is pretty darned amazing. I *badly* want this one on Blu-Ray.

I guess I'll take a chance and pick up The Last Starfighter this week after all and find out whether the video is truly Blu-Ray quality or not. Worst that can happen is I wasted my money.

I'll repeat what I said about it in another thread...if you think Best Buy is really going to sell 1080P TVs for $10, you're too stupid to be buying a TV.

Finally, I want to emphasize a point that was made during the Craig's List segment...DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU BUY!!! I can't speak for other areas because I don't shop other areas. But Craig's List in this area (Indianapolis and Bloomington, Indiana) is *loaded* with sellers who will be happy to sell you a $200 PC for $1000, or a $50 TV for $800. I regularly see equipment that you can buy new at Best Buy cheaper than what they're asking used on CL (and Best Buy's prices usually suck). Its definitely "buyer beware". Just because its on Craig's List is not a guarantee that its a good deal.
bigbossbmb
3 months ago
they kept saying the overscan "scales up" the image so that it is bigger than your screen. However with my Panasonic Plasma it is simply a crop. To correct it, the TV needs to downscale the image (losing the 1:1 pixel representation).

I choose to downscale because I'd rather have the entire image field downscaled than have 1:1 pixels and miss part of the picture.

Good ep though.
Deleted User
3 months ago
Great episode. It would be awesome if you guys finally got to those Home Theater in a Box reviews.
aaronbond
3 months ago
i second the annoying conversational audio interruption in the background @ the beginning of the show. i've only watched the first 5 min. here's hoping it's just this segment!
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