" This episode of I've -- boy is brought to you by a brain tonic square space dot com. And godaddy.com. Mister Flanagan where do you stand on photo reference and this is a subject requires a lot of plot for don't dodged the question. Some artists yeah yeah. Some artists will say that they want to. Explorer through reality and you think the American people are going to buy that. Hello and welcome to a very topical episode left family my name is Ron mom or movie phone and and I'm here -- Connor and and I Josh. What does the issues that's it yes we're gonna talk about the issues -- the very -- Charles she's been studying options and unless you've been under a rock. Or in Iraq you have to hunt club a lot of politics going on everywhere all the times the last seemingly. Forty years I would say that's how long it feels -- an election year here in America -- and elections -- viewers our international viewers are also aware of the fact that we're an election candidates have elections. It is much time -- election time it's at that time here it is and and it does not escape the purview of the comic book world. Politics -- themselves and all sorts of ways in comics whether it's it's. Writers and artists. Doing things making her comments on stuff or telling stories or or using their stories to come of the political political system our own economy -- always."

" Been pattern had a say in politics and and AM in the old editorial cartoons in the late eighteen hundreds and Soledad where there were some of the beginnings of comics World -- political satire and things like that for some reason. A lot can find easy to share political views of political jokes and drawn form you know like --"

" Caca humor is always the most potent weapon and -- music comics and cartoons statement that -- you know otherwise like you know captain America. It you know in in error or early forays by just Jack Kirby that was a political statement that book he was punching Hitler bows before we were in the war. Yeah -- before an election as NEC was considered to be like half America was like oh I don't know if you can do that good so if you can punch -- there well right. I don't know take note. As a for many people did. The moon for example the fifth a fifth."

" It's so different -- is but it's by no. It's been a surprise that this year's presidential election has had Nam there's been some comics and and touched upon it. And also there have been comics that do politics just in general broader sense and so we you know this is politics -- on. To the army's home. The most sort of obvious answer is these two books that came off my VW. Presidential material who thought of that title. Barack Obama and John McCain when these were announced. It was run con season in the summer who's been right after the primaries offense when these -- and -- I think eight. Pretty much let out a ten minute idol. And I would just like I was like wait will way to go I TWA capitalize on whatever and all kind of stuff and it. The middle I went into with the worst possible light it is who probably should disclaim -- that we're not going to get into our political news. I'll try not yeah. I think I -- embarrassing but. If but some and try to separated personally I'm generally on -- not a big fan of politics indeed these guys are. But but this is just kind of like it's true to me opportunistic and all accounts off and I really had a worse as he goes into -- show that comes out now about it. That's thousands of bundled them but it begins important point to make because then we got our hands on the yeah I had so what I did I have any idea what they -- and I was just hoping they weren't like a super Obama and John McCain man. They had pictures tell the story through word yes and a but I as the last hope that they were going to try to merge you know this is your kind of stereotypes with the presidential candidates which. Has happened and is not you know."

" know what they are that basically biography of each man is told in. Typically nonpartisan way. Bomb it they're straightforward they let you know the person's background. They're written and drawn by different teams than not both done exactly the same style. But you know what I found them to be Bolton really interesting. Really informative and I think that. If they were to get these out to people like if they were to get these out to voters they would actually be really really effective. More so than a lot of what I see."

" Yeah and that that I had a very summer actual -- hands -- myself and I read the bulletin IE. I was completely surprised I listen while he's a really. Mature these really intelligent they're basically biographies of both Canada. That's telling their stories of who they -- how they got to this election coming -- and and I searched through through history through that the guys -- wrote books -- on the south from there and this is this is the kind of thing that like I knew I had a United by an -- is a small publisher and and -- go from rolling my -- them to applauding them and like I hope he's got into high schools and hope that he's like -- things -- I would have eaten up. Because it's it's it's nonfiction and it's true. -- it's telling their stories and there's not pushing either candidate it's not is is the you know kind of reporting on of their meticulously researched them. I was very impressed doesn't really good job of telling -- these guys are and where they come from it. Mom and and you know. Regardless of how you feel about either candidate or whatever like the end of it. They both come off as likable respectable guys who won't close to try to do it again let's let's assigning him to say what you will of Republican or Democrat. They made it to be the presidential candidates you've got to be. Someone -- you -- normally Nixon jobs that let you know you gotta you gotta be able to get through some hoops in order in the and if someone attacks APS is an interesting story nonetheless there and and I think specifically McCain and Obama we've got two very different. Then and very interesting stories and come I think they're both an initial -- gaps for me personally on them and I went on when. Does that date didn't bomb poll a lot of punches yeah. In net."

" In like they talk about the -- the McCain did when he was younger that was kind of awful you know all and they also. Showed what it was like when he was POW that was kind that that's what they led with it one -- which is yeah it's about two seconds and then like to know. With a -- he's like -- period where he was sort of radical and he was doing drugs and drinking a lot and you know like. It wasn't it wasn't. Completely glossed over and I -- with the Obama I really like to like. His family life was messed up and it when you compared to every other political candidate who's ever. Except for these Clinton actually Clinton has singled him home but it will -- is even especially more than. I."

" I think the biggest and jumps out you look at these as the quality level and the talent level on this and does not you expect from -- when you get the -- all the money the cover artist is covered his name mister Campbell who is who's who what is inning giant on the cover."

" Which and it does the ones in which I wonder whether or not -- didn't understand is under the -- were not and Jason Campbell just had to cover the added him as a great artists that one of the covers took away from the books because they I think put across a kind of cartoon need. -- view when we're put the interior of the book doesn't massive cover we will."

" Not the John McCain but which is out of Miami -- for an drawn by Stephen Thomson. The first page -- trip it's really like the powerful they play opened it -- oh it's so this is what it's like if it's McCain in his. Sell you know like the bucket is next to him on the buck I mean lake. It's -- dead or -- watercolor is this this on the C Thompson could do extremists. He could decaf America. Sure you -- you I got that same. You know acting Perkins snow really kind of -- the biggest little photo reference -- yeah yeah well most of these are real people aren't there."

" Is that you don't expect that you don't really need distant history on what to expect lower quality level that we swing over -- actually really good artist and both its. Yet you let them of."

" Morgan on the on the Obama and the object Mario wrote the -- book I was I was I was I was more and it's -- because I was more press that the art in the McCain look. But as more press the writing on their -- looking maybe because there's less of the story but I felt at times the McCain -- was."

" Very text of the eight guys that it gets the entire -- of the -- as he went because when it. It was actually really busy so -- as you know was when he pulled his story for really long -- up until the point where he gets into senate and congress that congress and senate. Words. Admit I don't know how to learn most of the blocks of text become very. -- policy based on and they're talking about. Ideas as opposed to things happening you know for a long time I mean he. Apparently was the -- And the like and definitely I mean it may have said that his helmet -- not sure about it like that that I. Kept going back is they wanted to you undated I want the fly he wanted to do you know he was pilot he drew drove a Corvette he slept around like. That's not the guy that I have seen in the in the ads but it seems like a forum and dreaded -- Just."

" Look at the tax Bob movie oatmeal boxes that. And it is a lot of narration boxes and a lot of that's okay can be daunting of this for a casual reader Canada's located -- a lot of -- but nobody accidents -- the."

" I don't know is Carla I read before I got into comics proper before I got the sickness. Thing I didn't read a lot of non fiction he kind of stories that we're told comics form. And this is that -- one I was you know like in fifth grade I would love yes I got -- totally. Charles steadying myself art yeah saying I don't know -- aluminum credit you know but -- And it was just not -- it was a very classy. Approach to do booklet the -- it's also. It's worthwhile and I don't think there's anything -- I mean there's an educational value -- there's a social responsible. Thing that they've done and that I'd I'd be shocked how many congress actually read them there and I don't know missiles. It's funny because I guess is a public figures -- an Indian approval learned and in in this is you know what are the wonder if they've read it and they've done to people got my kids they might be business trip. Then in the I'm doing doing some McCain's guys going to the bathroom salons or is that outlook is that there are a lot of added eleven --"

" The effect that's thirty really you know I'm really doing these nobody actually right now does nothing to do with the it's."

" Dick they're like all over the place killing 1 morning -- West Virginia in the night -- in Kentucky some reason learn geography. I wonder if their apartments. Who. It's it's just sort of highlighted a -- yeah."

" It -- that you see just remove the level of care taking and bespoke a decisive precedent -- easy sort of you know simple story."

" Then that is didn't they didn't. Simplify they didn't hold back that they told those little things that I was I was really really impressed I was there. And I didn't expect it at all and I'm sorry I rolled my eyes for ten minutes. I should've I should have looked into before and they don't -- to be fair his eyes dried up completely. -- into the hospital. You know horrible this hope -- take a quick responses -- we get back we're going to talk about some of the books that feature politics is meant plot point."

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" That those books were very specifically. I was there about Natalie -- election and -- on the field. Now there's a little real cop was of real people rather really were done I -- little learn from our little thing here Munich economics and I sent the people. Still all the books of the people red -- and this is going on this could go on for way. So other books watching other comments on this this couple is my politics can you can bring in real politics in your book or you can make up political system and use that to possibly comment on. It sat -- the -- the one point six the first book that really. Got me now Alice on the list transit pollen. Which is set in the nearest future exits -- me. The new reachable future and -- your future but reachable now lots and and a box on the and it's about five Jerusalem who is a journalist and -- Thrust of this book by Warren -- and -- Robertson published ever got published by vertigo it's no longer print. It's over then they ended in 2200 CN get all the trades offense and trades in OK we got that all. Totally threw me off. Basically -- the thrust of the entire run. Is that there's a guy in office Gerry Callahan who who who spider first who has this Tyler because he's got that political smile which. Is inaudible -- beneath it but but people like his teeth and spider is basically trying to airport on stories and bring him down."

" It's fire drills in the journals of the journalists got his music is very hunter S Thompson ST he comes out of retirement -- and seclusion and mountain come back dancers and a column. And he ran out of money annually in the book and fiance targets as politically targets this this rather president it was a president kept target the president. And uses that attack as well as to -- other social ills in society."

" And it turns out that there's a there's a murder conspiracies and -- try to investigators trying to uncover that it's in the whole thing that's my other. Eventually becomes aware of him and then sort of starts fighting back and just doing like that Gerry Callahan is the he's the worst kind of politician at like that yeah like he's he's written as just the worst he could possibly get on the you know there's killings and murders and and it's it's making a comment about the real world but by using a lot of exaggeration hyperbole really smart book really dense it's -- in this order and on for five years."

" This is probably Vietnam and you know for no other reason than just bias and idiot by -- on -- and Ellis and and is probably the best thing by -- you noticed the most focused the most -- you until you can pick up the passion. I mean it when we look back somewhere else is currently -- and in the book that you remember him for and it."

" True that you -- those two -- it's one it's a it's. Looks like his love letter to the power of the writer in the word on what journalists could be if they were still journalists not just publicist for political partisan there. It's competent and well on both sides Aaron the second thing is is pure science fiction sites which has always been good tax expert commentary on the current society alt. -- always. Even given Star -- even -- all it's always been content outsiders now what -- today. Wake up sheet. Because there's that we do not far off from this kind of world and did you think -- science -- always makes you think about the world -- have it."

" It's also like it. It also manages to because I -- very dry. It manages as a personality and life is on it's fun it's funny and then this other you know like a couple days later tights crushing entire break in China. It's it's incredibly unreal but it's also very very real literally this presidential story goes the entire story of the book and read it before -- leave it that's and everything depends on the prison and."

" And you see the effect that -- and hasn't journalists to see now. And he gets he gets really intense towards the end and it is I mean it was one of those books that you guys read Loveland Guzman was and issues and I had avoided and then a couple of years ago I -- and it was a show. It didn't show didn't. And I loved it was great and one big thing I mean you know talk more to complement our promises are this is an assortment -- this prayer."

" You know it is a liberal book. Yes I think I did it does lead to be honest you know success if that's -- but it's it's fake liberalism and a it's fictional net I suppose but also the world and it's really really awful. Moving on from there. Bryant hit on maybe you've heard them. Is currently doing with Tony Harris book called X not -- that is how you pronounce it and -- not X machine X machine -- And this takes eight different. It exists and our world news -- hundred is the mayor of New York City and he has the super power from somewhere."

" He you. He was working on the for the coast or -- that -- he there was a he's engineer gave no reason engineer and -- on a boat by the Brooklyn Bridge and found an alien kind of thing that. Kind of captain and when he woke up."

" You -- kind of circuitry in his face and he could speak to machines and and basically -- story this is not. Very first issues on not blowing this for you he stops the second plane from in the second tower and I and I remember reading -- book like this is all. A -- like -- literally and wasn't very long after and I don't know what went mademoiselle gases power to speak machines and so he decides -- of the world so it becomes -- he -- really complex and this has become a superhero called the great machine. And what's cool about that is that like it's this is residues in the real world so this -- is is cobbled together yeah he's got he's got --"

" he's got a jet pack is he's got a friend this this Russian news -- Kremlin who makes the jet pack hideously -- goes he does it it was almost as if what if in the real world someone becomes a superhero. And so he does this -- he's a vigilante in the police are after from the he's just trying to help people any heat and all through the series there flash fastest time as the great machine and it's just this. Mistake after mistake -- which ultimately said realizing I'm not helping people doing this I can help people apply ran for mayor right answer he runs for marriage as an."

" you because after that the trade center -- he becomes -- ye eat reveals that in the end and in New York City -- form and it's really an interesting. View of what it's like to. Run the city and you know sites city politics are closer and that but it goes all over the place from social politics since. You know the business of things in. And one of the things it's really -- about Mitchell hundred is that he's written to be nonpartisan. He's written to be like some of the things he does are very liberal some of the things he does a very conservative in a maverick. He's at. It's tough that's a -- if -- bad guys and eventually like to -- his aspirations to go for the presidency and I sort of where that's where we're gonna knowing now."

" with a book and it's it's at least parts half just been in his office having meetings and and it's flashing back when news of her but for me to stop what he's been severe stuff was really not register it and stuff where he's in the office running for mayor doing with. Not if we're being an -- dealing with the cops and doing with these people ended with problems and that snow removal of those solid state -- is this really. You wouldn't expect that from a what's good about about being a man."

" But it's really engaging in and it's it -- York city and says the world is very similar neurons is very relatable and it's really really well about -- issues median and then in each story -- that comes from the -- is really like has got to a definitive you know thrusts and at some aspect really know whether it's this a lot of deal dealing with -- and things like that so it's."

" The -- reckon Vaughn he's live in New York City you would. Poll -- the news stories today that he -- the city or thereabouts is that helped a couple of things going to mention really quickly to go into the DC universe has been. Some politics are shared out there let slip or."

" Listen to what the president for a long -- serious threat to thousands. You know as early 2000 period Ogilvy is sensitive for awhile which -- in the mirrored in Smallville and then. The Tunisia and green arrow was the mayor of start city for awhile -- really there yet hopefuls for awhile so. DC could replace the fictional factional politics were marvel those those."

" Real yeah involving about the -- versus our universities is harmful so alternate years marvel that whoever the president is the president and Marvin -- universal for example the ultimate. When there's it was a very big -- national story George Bush was right there and and nothing was really kind of sad about his policies -- tell Mark Miller was."

" Who called -- an accident he had to Kennedy when or more for start of -- it was a press yet. Did the sea world fictional world and if you can do they have -- to be the president and I have apparently America's cities it is."

" But its interest in that that that even DC and -- very different they've always had that -- political influence in -- you know so loved it and it Arctic Canada -- yeah. Intelligent writer and you're thinking about what makes this world tickets impossible to miss that stuff so they have these guys are flying around her basically living. Weapons of mass destruction now that. You know their -- is somehow body you know -- and and marvel at the civil war the government was involved in registration acting on the little these things are added -- senators a senator telling accidents. Sound. -- politics comics and -- mixture of the two so you know there's no shortage of that stuff and it usually they've done well and not done in a way that. He's very specific and is usually very interest thing if you make make it at home against the current. Specific politician doesn't have to work as well I don't think I don't have any."

" So so there's some books that thoughts about politics that we did mention nearly -- that you can emails contact and hand went up come."

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" You get -- that he that he did it I -- dot com to talk about this show or any of the other staff we have there's lots of discussions. Usually not terribly political yeah. And and if you're in the United States election is next Tuesday's election you vote. Good lord -- regular rarely go vote you go -- And still do. You know. Hello. This if this is -- Hello this. I think this."

" This episode of I've -- boy is brought to you by a brain tonic square space dot com. And godaddy.com. Mister Flanagan where do you stand on photo reference and this is a subject requires a lot of plot for don't dodged the question. Some artists yeah yeah. Some artists will say that they want to. Explorer through reality and you think the American people are going to buy that. Hello and welcome to a very topical episode left family my name is Ron mom or movie phone and and I'm here -- Connor and and I Josh. What does the issues that's it yes we're gonna talk about the issues -- the very -- Charles she's been studying options and unless you've been under a rock. Or in Iraq you have to hunt club a lot of politics going on everywhere all the times the last seemingly. Forty years I would say that's how long it feels -- an election year here in America -- and elections -- viewers our international viewers are also aware of the fact that we're an election candidates have elections. It is much time -- election time it's at that time here it is and and it does not escape the purview of the comic book world. Politics -- themselves and all sorts of ways in comics whether it's it's. Writers and artists. Doing things making her comments on stuff or telling stories or or using their stories to come of the political political system our own economy -- always."

" Been pattern had a say in politics and and AM in the old editorial cartoons in the late eighteen hundreds and Soledad where there were some of the beginnings of comics World -- political satire and things like that for some reason. A lot can find easy to share political views of political jokes and drawn form you know like --"

" Caca humor is always the most potent weapon and -- music comics and cartoons statement that -- you know otherwise like you know captain America. It you know in in error or early forays by just Jack Kirby that was a political statement that book he was punching Hitler bows before we were in the war. Yeah -- before an election as NEC was considered to be like half America was like oh I don't know if you can do that good so if you can punch -- there well right. I don't know take note. As a for many people did. The moon for example the fifth a fifth."

" It's so different -- is but it's by no. It's been a surprise that this year's presidential election has had Nam there's been some comics and and touched upon it. And also there have been comics that do politics just in general broader sense and so we you know this is politics -- on. To the army's home. The most sort of obvious answer is these two books that came off my VW. Presidential material who thought of that title. Barack Obama and John McCain when these were announced. It was run con season in the summer who's been right after the primaries offense when these -- and -- I think eight. Pretty much let out a ten minute idol. And I would just like I was like wait will way to go I TWA capitalize on whatever and all kind of stuff and it. The middle I went into with the worst possible light it is who probably should disclaim -- that we're not going to get into our political news. I'll try not yeah. I think I -- embarrassing but. If but some and try to separated personally I'm generally on -- not a big fan of politics indeed these guys are. But but this is just kind of like it's true to me opportunistic and all accounts off and I really had a worse as he goes into -- show that comes out now about it. That's thousands of bundled them but it begins important point to make because then we got our hands on the yeah I had so what I did I have any idea what they -- and I was just hoping they weren't like a super Obama and John McCain man. They had pictures tell the story through word yes and a but I as the last hope that they were going to try to merge you know this is your kind of stereotypes with the presidential candidates which. Has happened and is not you know."

" know what they are that basically biography of each man is told in. Typically nonpartisan way. Bomb it they're straightforward they let you know the person's background. They're written and drawn by different teams than not both done exactly the same style. But you know what I found them to be Bolton really interesting. Really informative and I think that. If they were to get these out to people like if they were to get these out to voters they would actually be really really effective. More so than a lot of what I see."

" Yeah and that that I had a very summer actual -- hands -- myself and I read the bulletin IE. I was completely surprised I listen while he's a really. Mature these really intelligent they're basically biographies of both Canada. That's telling their stories of who they -- how they got to this election coming -- and and I searched through through history through that the guys -- wrote books -- on the south from there and this is this is the kind of thing that like I knew I had a United by an -- is a small publisher and and -- go from rolling my -- them to applauding them and like I hope he's got into high schools and hope that he's like -- things -- I would have eaten up. Because it's it's it's nonfiction and it's true. -- it's telling their stories and there's not pushing either candidate it's not is is the you know kind of reporting on of their meticulously researched them. I was very impressed doesn't really good job of telling -- these guys are and where they come from it. Mom and and you know. Regardless of how you feel about either candidate or whatever like the end of it. They both come off as likable respectable guys who won't close to try to do it again let's let's assigning him to say what you will of Republican or Democrat. They made it to be the presidential candidates you've got to be. Someone -- you -- normally Nixon jobs that let you know you gotta you gotta be able to get through some hoops in order in the and if someone attacks APS is an interesting story nonetheless there and and I think specifically McCain and Obama we've got two very different. Then and very interesting stories and come I think they're both an initial -- gaps for me personally on them and I went on when. Does that date didn't bomb poll a lot of punches yeah. In net."

" In like they talk about the -- the McCain did when he was younger that was kind of awful you know all and they also. Showed what it was like when he was POW that was kind that that's what they led with it one -- which is yeah it's about two seconds and then like to know. With a -- he's like -- period where he was sort of radical and he was doing drugs and drinking a lot and you know like. It wasn't it wasn't. Completely glossed over and I -- with the Obama I really like to like. His family life was messed up and it when you compared to every other political candidate who's ever. Except for these Clinton actually Clinton has singled him home but it will -- is even especially more than. I."

" I think the biggest and jumps out you look at these as the quality level and the talent level on this and does not you expect from -- when you get the -- all the money the cover artist is covered his name mister Campbell who is who's who what is inning giant on the cover."

" Which and it does the ones in which I wonder whether or not -- didn't understand is under the -- were not and Jason Campbell just had to cover the added him as a great artists that one of the covers took away from the books because they I think put across a kind of cartoon need. -- view when we're put the interior of the book doesn't massive cover we will."

" Not the John McCain but which is out of Miami -- for an drawn by Stephen Thomson. The first page -- trip it's really like the powerful they play opened it -- oh it's so this is what it's like if it's McCain in his. Sell you know like the bucket is next to him on the buck I mean lake. It's -- dead or -- watercolor is this this on the C Thompson could do extremists. He could decaf America. Sure you -- you I got that same. You know acting Perkins snow really kind of -- the biggest little photo reference -- yeah yeah well most of these are real people aren't there."

" Is that you don't expect that you don't really need distant history on what to expect lower quality level that we swing over -- actually really good artist and both its. Yet you let them of."

" Morgan on the on the Obama and the object Mario wrote the -- book I was I was I was I was more and it's -- because I was more press that the art in the McCain look. But as more press the writing on their -- looking maybe because there's less of the story but I felt at times the McCain -- was."

" Very text of the eight guys that it gets the entire -- of the -- as he went because when it. It was actually really busy so -- as you know was when he pulled his story for really long -- up until the point where he gets into senate and congress that congress and senate. Words. Admit I don't know how to learn most of the blocks of text become very. -- policy based on and they're talking about. Ideas as opposed to things happening you know for a long time I mean he. Apparently was the -- And the like and definitely I mean it may have said that his helmet -- not sure about it like that that I. Kept going back is they wanted to you undated I want the fly he wanted to do you know he was pilot he drew drove a Corvette he slept around like. That's not the guy that I have seen in the in the ads but it seems like a forum and dreaded -- Just."

" Look at the tax Bob movie oatmeal boxes that. And it is a lot of narration boxes and a lot of that's okay can be daunting of this for a casual reader Canada's located -- a lot of -- but nobody accidents -- the."

" I don't know is Carla I read before I got into comics proper before I got the sickness. Thing I didn't read a lot of non fiction he kind of stories that we're told comics form. And this is that -- one I was you know like in fifth grade I would love yes I got -- totally. Charles steadying myself art yeah saying I don't know -- aluminum credit you know but -- And it was just not -- it was a very classy. Approach to do booklet the -- it's also. It's worthwhile and I don't think there's anything -- I mean there's an educational value -- there's a social responsible. Thing that they've done and that I'd I'd be shocked how many congress actually read them there and I don't know missiles. It's funny because I guess is a public figures -- an Indian approval learned and in in this is you know what are the wonder if they've read it and they've done to people got my kids they might be business trip. Then in the I'm doing doing some McCain's guys going to the bathroom salons or is that outlook is that there are a lot of added eleven --"

" The effect that's thirty really you know I'm really doing these nobody actually right now does nothing to do with the it's."

" Dick they're like all over the place killing 1 morning -- West Virginia in the night -- in Kentucky some reason learn geography. I wonder if their apartments. Who. It's it's just sort of highlighted a -- yeah."

" It -- that you see just remove the level of care taking and bespoke a decisive precedent -- easy sort of you know simple story."

" Then that is didn't they didn't. Simplify they didn't hold back that they told those little things that I was I was really really impressed I was there. And I didn't expect it at all and I'm sorry I rolled my eyes for ten minutes. I should've I should have looked into before and they don't -- to be fair his eyes dried up completely. -- into the hospital. You know horrible this hope -- take a quick responses -- we get back we're going to talk about some of the books that feature politics is meant plot point."

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" That those books were very specifically. I was there about Natalie -- election and -- on the field. Now there's a little real cop was of real people rather really were done I -- little learn from our little thing here Munich economics and I sent the people. Still all the books of the people red -- and this is going on this could go on for way. So other books watching other comments on this this couple is my politics can you can bring in real politics in your book or you can make up political system and use that to possibly comment on. It sat -- the -- the one point six the first book that really. Got me now Alice on the list transit pollen. Which is set in the nearest future exits -- me. The new reachable future and -- your future but reachable now lots and and a box on the and it's about five Jerusalem who is a journalist and -- Thrust of this book by Warren -- and -- Robertson published ever got published by vertigo it's no longer print. It's over then they ended in 2200 CN get all the trades offense and trades in OK we got that all. Totally threw me off. Basically -- the thrust of the entire run. Is that there's a guy in office Gerry Callahan who who who spider first who has this Tyler because he's got that political smile which. Is inaudible -- beneath it but but people like his teeth and spider is basically trying to airport on stories and bring him down."

" It's fire drills in the journals of the journalists got his music is very hunter S Thompson ST he comes out of retirement -- and seclusion and mountain come back dancers and a column. And he ran out of money annually in the book and fiance targets as politically targets this this rather president it was a president kept target the president. And uses that attack as well as to -- other social ills in society."

" And it turns out that there's a there's a murder conspiracies and -- try to investigators trying to uncover that it's in the whole thing that's my other. Eventually becomes aware of him and then sort of starts fighting back and just doing like that Gerry Callahan is the he's the worst kind of politician at like that yeah like he's he's written as just the worst he could possibly get on the you know there's killings and murders and and it's it's making a comment about the real world but by using a lot of exaggeration hyperbole really smart book really dense it's -- in this order and on for five years."

" This is probably Vietnam and you know for no other reason than just bias and idiot by -- on -- and Ellis and and is probably the best thing by -- you noticed the most focused the most -- you until you can pick up the passion. I mean it when we look back somewhere else is currently -- and in the book that you remember him for and it."

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" It's also like it. It also manages to because I -- very dry. It manages as a personality and life is on it's fun it's funny and then this other you know like a couple days later tights crushing entire break in China. It's it's incredibly unreal but it's also very very real literally this presidential story goes the entire story of the book and read it before -- leave it that's and everything depends on the prison and."

" And you see the effect that -- and hasn't journalists to see now. And he gets he gets really intense towards the end and it is I mean it was one of those books that you guys read Loveland Guzman was and issues and I had avoided and then a couple of years ago I -- and it was a show. It didn't show didn't. And I loved it was great and one big thing I mean you know talk more to complement our promises are this is an assortment -- this prayer."

" You know it is a liberal book. Yes I think I did it does lead to be honest you know success if that's -- but it's it's fake liberalism and a it's fictional net I suppose but also the world and it's really really awful. Moving on from there. Bryant hit on maybe you've heard them. Is currently doing with Tony Harris book called X not -- that is how you pronounce it and -- not X machine X machine -- And this takes eight different. It exists and our world news -- hundred is the mayor of New York City and he has the super power from somewhere."

" He you. He was working on the for the coast or -- that -- he there was a he's engineer gave no reason engineer and -- on a boat by the Brooklyn Bridge and found an alien kind of thing that. Kind of captain and when he woke up."

" You -- kind of circuitry in his face and he could speak to machines and and basically -- story this is not. Very first issues on not blowing this for you he stops the second plane from in the second tower and I and I remember reading -- book like this is all. A -- like -- literally and wasn't very long after and I don't know what went mademoiselle gases power to speak machines and so he decides -- of the world so it becomes -- he -- really complex and this has become a superhero called the great machine. And what's cool about that is that like it's this is residues in the real world so this -- is is cobbled together yeah he's got he's got --"

" he's got a jet pack is he's got a friend this this Russian news -- Kremlin who makes the jet pack hideously -- goes he does it it was almost as if what if in the real world someone becomes a superhero. And so he does this -- he's a vigilante in the police are after from the he's just trying to help people any heat and all through the series there flash fastest time as the great machine and it's just this. Mistake after mistake -- which ultimately said realizing I'm not helping people doing this I can help people apply ran for mayor right answer he runs for marriage as an."

" you because after that the trade center -- he becomes -- ye eat reveals that in the end and in New York City -- form and it's really an interesting. View of what it's like to. Run the city and you know sites city politics are closer and that but it goes all over the place from social politics since. You know the business of things in. And one of the things it's really -- about Mitchell hundred is that he's written to be nonpartisan. He's written to be like some of the things he does are very liberal some of the things he does a very conservative in a maverick. He's at. It's tough that's a -- if -- bad guys and eventually like to -- his aspirations to go for the presidency and I sort of where that's where we're gonna knowing now."

" with a book and it's it's at least parts half just been in his office having meetings and and it's flashing back when news of her but for me to stop what he's been severe stuff was really not register it and stuff where he's in the office running for mayor doing with. Not if we're being an -- dealing with the cops and doing with these people ended with problems and that snow removal of those solid state -- is this really. You wouldn't expect that from a what's good about about being a man."

" But it's really engaging in and it's it -- York city and says the world is very similar neurons is very relatable and it's really really well about -- issues median and then in each story -- that comes from the -- is really like has got to a definitive you know thrusts and at some aspect really know whether it's this a lot of deal dealing with -- and things like that so it's."

" The -- reckon Vaughn he's live in New York City you would. Poll -- the news stories today that he -- the city or thereabouts is that helped a couple of things going to mention really quickly to go into the DC universe has been. Some politics are shared out there let slip or."

" Listen to what the president for a long -- serious threat to thousands. You know as early 2000 period Ogilvy is sensitive for awhile which -- in the mirrored in Smallville and then. The Tunisia and green arrow was the mayor of start city for awhile -- really there yet hopefuls for awhile so. DC could replace the fictional factional politics were marvel those those."

" Real yeah involving about the -- versus our universities is harmful so alternate years marvel that whoever the president is the president and Marvin -- universal for example the ultimate. When there's it was a very big -- national story George Bush was right there and and nothing was really kind of sad about his policies -- tell Mark Miller was."

" Who called -- an accident he had to Kennedy when or more for start of -- it was a press yet. Did the sea world fictional world and if you can do they have -- to be the president and I have apparently America's cities it is."

" But its interest in that that that even DC and -- very different they've always had that -- political influence in -- you know so loved it and it Arctic Canada -- yeah. Intelligent writer and you're thinking about what makes this world tickets impossible to miss that stuff so they have these guys are flying around her basically living. Weapons of mass destruction now that. You know their -- is somehow body you know -- and and marvel at the civil war the government was involved in registration acting on the little these things are added -- senators a senator telling accidents. Sound. -- politics comics and -- mixture of the two so you know there's no shortage of that stuff and it usually they've done well and not done in a way that. He's very specific and is usually very interest thing if you make make it at home against the current. Specific politician doesn't have to work as well I don't think I don't have any."

" So so there's some books that thoughts about politics that we did mention nearly -- that you can emails contact and hand went up come."

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" You get -- that he that he did it I -- dot com to talk about this show or any of the other staff we have there's lots of discussions. Usually not terribly political yeah. And and if you're in the United States election is next Tuesday's election you vote. Good lord -- regular rarely go vote you go -- And still do. You know. Hello. This if this is -- Hello this. I think this."