Boys
Wednesday, June 27th, 2007 running time 22:19
The Boys are back, and iFanboy got to have a nice little chat with series creators Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson during a signing to celebrate the re-release of their controversial series. It's not all about The Boys, though, as Ennis and Robertson also delve into some of their other work. Most importantly, not a single person appearing in this video was violently or gratuitously injured in any way. Not on camera at least.
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" And execute very serious such short notice I just hate hate anymore. Is it work again you know arms from around. Are just -- deal. Cute is cute at all there's so much or. Passed it on -- side. Just -- that. -- I'm giving him -- sciences. Blogger and go. Well it's it's just all the stuff that. You know -- or movie. I took me use this is obvious problems that he. Yes. -- And expecting it probably isn't my own money and you know it'll be in term. It just may be. I -- an immigrant investor. Why she just really it's. -- When I try this page he should head over to www. Netflix.com. Slash -- fan boy Robert Reid. Four votes on the contrary in -- use it. We use -- you have gotten gotten -- netflix.com slash active way. You get two week free trial. Yeah and necessary for that plus. There's no way he should. Really. I don't west -- opt. Simple. And Robert who got these lead actor and an -- And it keyword anyway you'll get 10% off your purchase more are. -- anything. I've just I don't know what it actually. Here's he has. Well thank you."
" Hey look at night and boy it's the video podcast in the comic but says the site iFanboy dot com tonight we -- Jim -- universe again and -- the -- going on for the creator of the boys Derrick Robertson and Garth -- so we're gonna get hasn't talked to them and come along. Through their Robertson and Jim -- signing murdered so over the boys very excited had a back on -- the world at this deadlines to -- now which -- kind of got a reprieve from yeah that's nice that's nice that it's back I'm I'm more excited about the enthusiasm for the book there's a lot of passion for the -- people really excited really sad when it was. From receiving while storming real excitement and that's what's your good. He had done my amazed I didn't expect this kind of reaction at all -- to stuns delighted that is an audience and so you know excited is embracing it and you know that we would that we're going to be back in on a monthly schedule now on that there's still an audience they're worried when the applicant -- that that was -- the -- Think did happen it that we would lose the you know the audience and people that we're following it would -- the way -- didn't seem like that's not to build more momentum for more except for now the controversy seemed to help quite a bitch. Were you surprised when it was slated to -- it into them okay. Well you can say what we've surprised when when there was the do simple deferments from its later we Natalie wasn't it was unexpected -- in but it was have a very well it was handled very well so we were who were treated me back considerably anyways to move to dynamite with a great deal cooperation so. It was more like it's Seymour that was something that BC just didn't want to publish that they didn't want to see it time. Now is we need a script from Garth is there anything -- it as ever. Blow your mind -- little -- yeah it's always a -- I'm I'm guards -- like I read the scripts if I wasn't trying to spoke I would be reading and taking myself but I wasn't -- government -- you look at and say no we shouldn't we shouldn't do that I -- I -- out is that the guilty party but the words actually usually -- I usually take it further than -- ago and then a lot of the stuff that got us into novelists. In any. So here at the -- but. Your -- works very detailed panels the American a lot of the lot of rendering utility ever told meet the deadlines."
" That's not so much trouble and I'm pretty prolific it's more that I'm I'm very hard time letting my work go I know it doesn't show but."
" I have a hard time like saying that's good now that's done. I had my way I'd probably still be working on voice number one BR storm as you guys like it's never good enough and I could always got I was go back 16 SATA one change that."
" But you know at the end of the day I --"
" If on my worst critic then that's good I want to stay that way. You worked with. We'll start obviously impaired -- I'm more analysis of really very rotted out you just blasts or you have something on them or what I mean spectacular failure productive assembly budget I think you're right I mean I mean too excited just lucky in that --"
" Back in a deal with the devil and -- down at him you know wanted to get this back then. It's not."
" I think it's a matter of I I've built a career being reliable and I focused very much on storytelling and."
" And my philosophy from a very long time ago has always been."
" If I make mattered are happy am -- right -- happy ending happy everybody else doesn't count everybody else would get onboard if I can please those three people under the viewer can and it seems to work for me so I think a lot of writers like collaborating with me. I know Greg and Warren and."
" And -- fall like collaborating with me because I really getting into the script every -- read comics."
" I used to love comics as a fan and that's what inspired -- and."
" And how to Beverly lost that passion now read as much as I used to with a passion for creating a story is still very. Vibrant for me I really want the story deliver more than I want my panels to be. Like here's a cool shot of somebody give us some cool."
" I like that what happens within a moment of the story I like to build -- I'd like I'm more film fan in that regard and what I like about comics is that."
" It's a way of telling a story graphically and visually. That you can do removed from the pacing of the film the film director decides okay I'm gonna show you this shot for a second."
" And then I'm gonna -- way to solve most you don't have that luxury with comics and comics it's like if you're going to have a big moment. It's got to grab the reader and make them want to stare at that panel for a while so that's my challenge my challenge is how can make this interest dean or darker dirty him up for whatever it is. That really gets the root of what Garth is trying to tell you I read this story and I'm digesting it back to the reader."
" And sought to like -- it's my job to be the filter. Of his brain to the audience and to keep that is intact as possible without interfering with the and in that regard I think I've been fortunate because then my staff. Has gotten the kind of attention -- would like to have. -- sticking out from. One great writer you're just you're gives you 52 issues that was more -- yeah and also. People -- good laughs at Saturday just experience working very well if -- for certain with Keith because it was sort of returning to something that I had. And that done before my very first job at DC my very first mainstream job was working on Justice League Justice League you're back in 92 and I was working -- the keys breakdowns and so from eagle one back then -- homeowner is very much like that -- a very strange company. And it was the elongated man so for me was my favorite character in -- so -- drawn him and had an affection for the character. Answer was very strange to come back to work in that bank and then see him you know go through what he went -- not to spoil anything. We know that but okay we neighborhood had been gone for the library I've written about governor I don't want that one guy got. And we -- about him why -- Just that issue. So -- I mean it was interesting to go through all of that and be the -- did escort him out and then back into the DC universe. It was big deal for me I mean for me affectionately it was a big fan moment and I love that characters and we were wizard we're this was the normal script. I mean that yeah writers are well aware of the road runner yeah it was it was clear in some cases on Grant Morrison. -- one page of the last one that I did 48 there was like to -- America that's a way to blackout -- all strung -- and and -- beyond -- there that but the -- that was Greg and and then the whole issue that I worked on a wanted man that was -- swallow for names were on there I think -- they all got together and collaborated -- individual issues would be assigned to this writer in the greater detail what character's storyline has been -- so."
" You're on the -- foreseeable future -- that this is absolutely delighted to treatment and is there -- any anything you were really want to work and yet you open your eyes like that are left to work on Superman."
" I'm not IMAX dot com under exclusive with DC at the same time part of no wonderful cooperation that they did they they didn't punish me for having a book out there that they didn't want to publish -- they actually came back and said look we want to work with you don't want you to go. And they were very very nice and generous with me and so now we're talking about projects for 2000 and agencies ran a bad man -- come up in conversation so -- I don't nothing -- nothing for sure -- that you know -- we're talking about what I can do for the DC universe. Do you miss spider Drupal as much as we do a bit they you know he lives in my brain -- for so -- and I can draw right now it doesn't it's not like he goes away I can create something was managers on -- scripts in -- scripts I liked his stuff like this plots and I like the story aside Imus -- that. And that's not what they're doing now. But I'm pretty good idea you know thanks let certain preferences for the boy they -- after us."
" Is it nice to finally have a book out that that is free of controversy. --"
" I'll I'll let you know -- that -- happens I'm sure of hot one. A -- remember what it is or when it -- monitor. Are -- and I've got no idea develop this appalling reputation either we did some. It's an accident but it's not supposed to be like this. So -- with the boys it is an issue number eight. Is would be presumptuous of me to say that maybe they were summing indebtedness yes not a problem with Julie never even got a fire. I couldn't even point to any one particular moment. That they had a problem -- I think it was more kids. -- The first six issues contained enough material they find objectionable. And the specific problem cause let him but you can I'm looks like preacher where people do awful things still on. Now right where they -- where they draw the line is the idea of a book where super people. -- appalling things to each other because the super characters look a little bit too much like the the characters and their regular books in their bread and butter -- you might say it. It looked -- and -- have a character for instance who looks a little bit like I'm home on. Behaving like an author frank very battle won't play on -- that more than anything else is what caused the problem. So when you're writing the boys have you ever gone to the point where it. You thought that's too much I can't go that far or do you just. Any time they ever get to point. I do it anyway just on principle. It's. I can ignore my own lines are. You know the things that I won't read the things that I don't think are funny the things that I. That I find objectionable and I never and I never go there anyway I never find myself. If I find something where I think this is gonna -- a lot of people's. I think well let's just reliable people's yeah they're being enough people out there with a decent enough sense of humor. And I am gonna go ahead and do it. That is the message do you think of you think of butcher is a good guy or or more ambiguous or. I think of butcher is. Amman on a mission. He has made a decision about what he's going to do what his life is gonna be him that. There was a point. In his life where he could've been a good guy. But the idea of him as good or about -- it doesn't really apply. Because he's made his choice. And everything he does every decision he makes. -- and that this ultimate goalies decided on my you'll see what bodies as the book proceeds. I think he's the sort of person that if you madam. But on a daily basis and you didn't have anything to do -- Superheroes. You weren't you weren't someone -- naturally arise desire. You might find -- pretty good company -- sort of roguish way you know some winners is guaranteed to say the outrageous thing you know that you laugh out and then feel guilty of -- If on the other hand you were you were involved with them. Professionally socially or any other way I think you would gradually realizing you were on very dangerous grind. And that he was not. To spend a good deal -- timer runs that's what we hear he's going to be fine as he goes through the story. Talking about preacher. When you first started that did you did you have an idea an inkling that it was going to turn to -- was you have like this is going to be really good thing feeling. I eight I didn't know what was going to go as big as it did I thought it would either survive long enough to finish the story. But we kind of us a minor cult hit like most vertigo books. I've always -- With the exceptions of sound economists it was creature itself. Or it would feel inside six issues and be counseled -- here. I didn't know what was going to go as big as it did you know what you you're relatively young when you started it but it felt felt really consistent to me all the way through do you go do you ever like think about the beginning and end like -- few -- you in the beginning or with just. Look and box out and I see things where. I would probably. Copped a lot of what I wrote I would have -- be reduced three pages to one and a half of that kind of -- Ones on the whole I'm pretty pleased that I would say that. Navy hello this is a sort of oblique way of approaching fair question but if you look at the voice. The bullies. As opposed to preacher is very much a story but. Where. It's. Here you have -- the cutie but the characters morality I mean your question about butchered that touched on the preacher. The book -- the characters they very much more of their hearts on their sleeve he knew who they wear the star was a car going sheds. Jesse was stood foursquare for truth and justice. Cassidy. Was a little bit more ambiguous you learn more about image you want where is in the boy -- Butcher who is at home through what's. Surf and certainly one of the two lead characters in the book is he someone that you should be constantly and they wandering up by. Someone that should be constantly trying to make your mind that look like he should never. I think he's -- put your -- morally or any other -- when things -- really like even doing historically is the war stories and things like that even today -- and Hezbollah like I think it -- more story -- is there -- that kind of stuff coming -- I would I would love to do more war stories and and I I'd take every opportunity -- to them but that the sad fact is that they really don't sell -- much. I would like to do I have ideas for at least another dozen. Of the deposited it in the vertigo -- and I would love to do more popular Britain's. Any opportunity. I. I I guess again to tell a street war story and outsourced -- without any. Found I see your time travel elements to -- yes I will I will -- it but it's. They're few and far between you you have to do a lot of top selling or or -- better selling materials to justify a company. Given you the go ahead to do war story."
" I've been reading some of that some is that even talked about and you mentioned how you like to take a character concept and taken apart and inserted break -- what it is. On the other anything either any like mainstream characters you would still want to work on a dollar you find yourself."
" Well it's not as weird. There's my opinion my own theory is that there's a way into every character like let's say I. It all ended stormy tomorrow and I had to just start over again and I had to be the guy in line for the green mountain joke. There's a way in the I'd find a way and not notice senator red eyed character whatsoever. But in terms of ones that I would find in there saying it's all so. So I'm probably -- and Superman. Reasons being. With super amount I think that would be -- house to say something really in -- by quite a character here is over 100 quintessential. American immigrants I've heard about on the other kinds yeah. Almost almost a messianic figure you know he's. To me he's like Jesus and he. He's constantly -- done by humanity and yet he never gives up on the bum on the other hand that the first American comic book I ever read was Dark Knight. Which give me a very false picture of American comic books. And it didn't quite. I think I could find a way to do spot on and an interesting way that he's going to think about -- on the ground but he is about -- and so. The risk free and -- the past twenty years worth of of a bomb on comics they've they've gone all right to pull box from what we're doing in Dark Knight if you could go back to Dark -- I think you could do something interesting and by the way I don't mean Bob -- a psychotic and I simply mean about -- on as I guy Hayden. In total control. With an incredible sense of authority among who gives orders and he jumped. Come on who has thought I was ten steps ahead who's never surprised -- I'm speaking of -- you're going back to to hit man right so and other supposed going to come out you know whatever is that dependent on well if the if a new book which is two part of the story it'll be all right to sort of that's forty years -- so whatever. Coming in September and October if they do well enough maybe we'll see some more had fun stuff being collected I would be delighted to me it's. To me it's -- moment. In a lot of ways it's my favorite and it's kind of stuck in limbo you know preacher publisher held -- they've all been very well served by reprints. The boys is obviously going to do very well prepared mind I feel like it's just lost in the wilderness and I would love to get -- and you know -- favorite -- Van Halen. Well I've I was a big fan of the -- excellent they've panel reversed on heart. Wolf when I was not really a -- to me club that he is a crime that he is a crime fighter he's he fights crime with elegant -- This thing that we can't talk to but what did what we're trying really went out and I was. It in terms of just you know about that one jokes that worked really really well I liked blind postured to do is that the daredevil are they. In the one million issue. In terms of the you know on a wider scale I was terribly fond of 65. Dates or yeah going to say I really like them all like stocks crew elected homey and select not elect Sean and -- like hide. I like ring go to like a girl hi can I like that little guy it's -- It. If -- seeds hadn't intervened to get to see them propping up not -- for the rest of their lives."
" When I think of -- comments -- the best friend and everything was always one of my favorite pairs one of those by. But tell us certain parts again I was like he was one of the -- they're really just -- comments like out of all the care to your friend who's a who's kicking -- that's when you'll really like it when it. And -- most -- say where do you -- me what you liked and well you missed not writing that you like right."
" We you probably would be Tommy Mullen and -- he was very very easy because he had my sense of humor. The good news. Other favorites of mine would be the two characters and -- Which is the avatar but I do -- three people on atop the bread if I'm lucky. Do you and I neighbor of terribly fond of them. It's homey as I say. I very much like enjoyed reading candidate at -- the -- service on under the authority. -- guys like. -- Is there anything else he -- about the preacher TV show or any any updates there's so much a contented you know I mean I'm thinking -- We we are. We do we really haven't gone very far with it. If it. If it goes obviously if it actually becomes a series. I think. Well I think it's fair shot as it HBO because what it needs someone to. Someone decide to -- not missing craziness and non controversial material things will actually be worth fighting for. And it's that may have to fight hard for it -- it would be pretty controversial material I think that's about also thanks I appreciate it and I don't answer."
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" I think they sold the -- industry sure it's not up there. We get we get wins broadcast and you know that is I don't know. And you call yourself -- DC fan."
" And execute very serious such short notice I just hate hate anymore. Is it work again you know arms from around. Are just -- deal. Cute is cute at all there's so much or. Passed it on -- side. Just -- that. -- I'm giving him -- sciences. Blogger and go. Well it's it's just all the stuff that. You know -- or movie. I took me use this is obvious problems that he. Yes. -- And expecting it probably isn't my own money and you know it'll be in term. It just may be. I -- an immigrant investor. Why she just really it's. -- When I try this page he should head over to www. Netflix.com. Slash -- fan boy Robert Reid. Four votes on the contrary in -- use it. We use -- you have gotten gotten -- netflix.com slash active way. You get two week free trial. Yeah and necessary for that plus. There's no way he should. Really. I don't west -- opt. Simple. And Robert who got these lead actor and an -- And it keyword anyway you'll get 10% off your purchase more are. -- anything. I've just I don't know what it actually. Here's he has. Well thank you."
" Hey look at night and boy it's the video podcast in the comic but says the site iFanboy dot com tonight we -- Jim -- universe again and -- the -- going on for the creator of the boys Derrick Robertson and Garth -- so we're gonna get hasn't talked to them and come along. Through their Robertson and Jim -- signing murdered so over the boys very excited had a back on -- the world at this deadlines to -- now which -- kind of got a reprieve from yeah that's nice that's nice that it's back I'm I'm more excited about the enthusiasm for the book there's a lot of passion for the -- people really excited really sad when it was. From receiving while storming real excitement and that's what's your good. He had done my amazed I didn't expect this kind of reaction at all -- to stuns delighted that is an audience and so you know excited is embracing it and you know that we would that we're going to be back in on a monthly schedule now on that there's still an audience they're worried when the applicant -- that that was -- the -- Think did happen it that we would lose the you know the audience and people that we're following it would -- the way -- didn't seem like that's not to build more momentum for more except for now the controversy seemed to help quite a bitch. Were you surprised when it was slated to -- it into them okay. Well you can say what we've surprised when when there was the do simple deferments from its later we Natalie wasn't it was unexpected -- in but it was have a very well it was handled very well so we were who were treated me back considerably anyways to move to dynamite with a great deal cooperation so. It was more like it's Seymour that was something that BC just didn't want to publish that they didn't want to see it time. Now is we need a script from Garth is there anything -- it as ever. Blow your mind -- little -- yeah it's always a -- I'm I'm guards -- like I read the scripts if I wasn't trying to spoke I would be reading and taking myself but I wasn't -- government -- you look at and say no we shouldn't we shouldn't do that I -- I -- out is that the guilty party but the words actually usually -- I usually take it further than -- ago and then a lot of the stuff that got us into novelists. In any. So here at the -- but. Your -- works very detailed panels the American a lot of the lot of rendering utility ever told meet the deadlines."
" That's not so much trouble and I'm pretty prolific it's more that I'm I'm very hard time letting my work go I know it doesn't show but."
" I have a hard time like saying that's good now that's done. I had my way I'd probably still be working on voice number one BR storm as you guys like it's never good enough and I could always got I was go back 16 SATA one change that."
" But you know at the end of the day I --"
" If on my worst critic then that's good I want to stay that way. You worked with. We'll start obviously impaired -- I'm more analysis of really very rotted out you just blasts or you have something on them or what I mean spectacular failure productive assembly budget I think you're right I mean I mean too excited just lucky in that --"
" Back in a deal with the devil and -- down at him you know wanted to get this back then. It's not."
" I think it's a matter of I I've built a career being reliable and I focused very much on storytelling and."
" And my philosophy from a very long time ago has always been."
" If I make mattered are happy am -- right -- happy ending happy everybody else doesn't count everybody else would get onboard if I can please those three people under the viewer can and it seems to work for me so I think a lot of writers like collaborating with me. I know Greg and Warren and."
" And -- fall like collaborating with me because I really getting into the script every -- read comics."
" I used to love comics as a fan and that's what inspired -- and."
" And how to Beverly lost that passion now read as much as I used to with a passion for creating a story is still very. Vibrant for me I really want the story deliver more than I want my panels to be. Like here's a cool shot of somebody give us some cool."
" I like that what happens within a moment of the story I like to build -- I'd like I'm more film fan in that regard and what I like about comics is that."
" It's a way of telling a story graphically and visually. That you can do removed from the pacing of the film the film director decides okay I'm gonna show you this shot for a second."
" And then I'm gonna -- way to solve most you don't have that luxury with comics and comics it's like if you're going to have a big moment. It's got to grab the reader and make them want to stare at that panel for a while so that's my challenge my challenge is how can make this interest dean or darker dirty him up for whatever it is. That really gets the root of what Garth is trying to tell you I read this story and I'm digesting it back to the reader."
" And sought to like -- it's my job to be the filter. Of his brain to the audience and to keep that is intact as possible without interfering with the and in that regard I think I've been fortunate because then my staff. Has gotten the kind of attention -- would like to have. -- sticking out from. One great writer you're just you're gives you 52 issues that was more -- yeah and also. People -- good laughs at Saturday just experience working very well if -- for certain with Keith because it was sort of returning to something that I had. And that done before my very first job at DC my very first mainstream job was working on Justice League Justice League you're back in 92 and I was working -- the keys breakdowns and so from eagle one back then -- homeowner is very much like that -- a very strange company. And it was the elongated man so for me was my favorite character in -- so -- drawn him and had an affection for the character. Answer was very strange to come back to work in that bank and then see him you know go through what he went -- not to spoil anything. We know that but okay we neighborhood had been gone for the library I've written about governor I don't want that one guy got. And we -- about him why -- Just that issue. So -- I mean it was interesting to go through all of that and be the -- did escort him out and then back into the DC universe. It was big deal for me I mean for me affectionately it was a big fan moment and I love that characters and we were wizard we're this was the normal script. I mean that yeah writers are well aware of the road runner yeah it was it was clear in some cases on Grant Morrison. -- one page of the last one that I did 48 there was like to -- America that's a way to blackout -- all strung -- and and -- beyond -- there that but the -- that was Greg and and then the whole issue that I worked on a wanted man that was -- swallow for names were on there I think -- they all got together and collaborated -- individual issues would be assigned to this writer in the greater detail what character's storyline has been -- so."
" You're on the -- foreseeable future -- that this is absolutely delighted to treatment and is there -- any anything you were really want to work and yet you open your eyes like that are left to work on Superman."
" I'm not IMAX dot com under exclusive with DC at the same time part of no wonderful cooperation that they did they they didn't punish me for having a book out there that they didn't want to publish -- they actually came back and said look we want to work with you don't want you to go. And they were very very nice and generous with me and so now we're talking about projects for 2000 and agencies ran a bad man -- come up in conversation so -- I don't nothing -- nothing for sure -- that you know -- we're talking about what I can do for the DC universe. Do you miss spider Drupal as much as we do a bit they you know he lives in my brain -- for so -- and I can draw right now it doesn't it's not like he goes away I can create something was managers on -- scripts in -- scripts I liked his stuff like this plots and I like the story aside Imus -- that. And that's not what they're doing now. But I'm pretty good idea you know thanks let certain preferences for the boy they -- after us."
" Is it nice to finally have a book out that that is free of controversy. --"
" I'll I'll let you know -- that -- happens I'm sure of hot one. A -- remember what it is or when it -- monitor. Are -- and I've got no idea develop this appalling reputation either we did some. It's an accident but it's not supposed to be like this. So -- with the boys it is an issue number eight. Is would be presumptuous of me to say that maybe they were summing indebtedness yes not a problem with Julie never even got a fire. I couldn't even point to any one particular moment. That they had a problem -- I think it was more kids. -- The first six issues contained enough material they find objectionable. And the specific problem cause let him but you can I'm looks like preacher where people do awful things still on. Now right where they -- where they draw the line is the idea of a book where super people. -- appalling things to each other because the super characters look a little bit too much like the the characters and their regular books in their bread and butter -- you might say it. It looked -- and -- have a character for instance who looks a little bit like I'm home on. Behaving like an author frank very battle won't play on -- that more than anything else is what caused the problem. So when you're writing the boys have you ever gone to the point where it. You thought that's too much I can't go that far or do you just. Any time they ever get to point. I do it anyway just on principle. It's. I can ignore my own lines are. You know the things that I won't read the things that I don't think are funny the things that I. That I find objectionable and I never and I never go there anyway I never find myself. If I find something where I think this is gonna -- a lot of people's. I think well let's just reliable people's yeah they're being enough people out there with a decent enough sense of humor. And I am gonna go ahead and do it. That is the message do you think of you think of butcher is a good guy or or more ambiguous or. I think of butcher is. Amman on a mission. He has made a decision about what he's going to do what his life is gonna be him that. There was a point. In his life where he could've been a good guy. But the idea of him as good or about -- it doesn't really apply. Because he's made his choice. And everything he does every decision he makes. -- and that this ultimate goalies decided on my you'll see what bodies as the book proceeds. I think he's the sort of person that if you madam. But on a daily basis and you didn't have anything to do -- Superheroes. You weren't you weren't someone -- naturally arise desire. You might find -- pretty good company -- sort of roguish way you know some winners is guaranteed to say the outrageous thing you know that you laugh out and then feel guilty of -- If on the other hand you were you were involved with them. Professionally socially or any other way I think you would gradually realizing you were on very dangerous grind. And that he was not. To spend a good deal -- timer runs that's what we hear he's going to be fine as he goes through the story. Talking about preacher. When you first started that did you did you have an idea an inkling that it was going to turn to -- was you have like this is going to be really good thing feeling. I eight I didn't know what was going to go as big as it did I thought it would either survive long enough to finish the story. But we kind of us a minor cult hit like most vertigo books. I've always -- With the exceptions of sound economists it was creature itself. Or it would feel inside six issues and be counseled -- here. I didn't know what was going to go as big as it did you know what you you're relatively young when you started it but it felt felt really consistent to me all the way through do you go do you ever like think about the beginning and end like -- few -- you in the beginning or with just. Look and box out and I see things where. I would probably. Copped a lot of what I wrote I would have -- be reduced three pages to one and a half of that kind of -- Ones on the whole I'm pretty pleased that I would say that. Navy hello this is a sort of oblique way of approaching fair question but if you look at the voice. The bullies. As opposed to preacher is very much a story but. Where. It's. Here you have -- the cutie but the characters morality I mean your question about butchered that touched on the preacher. The book -- the characters they very much more of their hearts on their sleeve he knew who they wear the star was a car going sheds. Jesse was stood foursquare for truth and justice. Cassidy. Was a little bit more ambiguous you learn more about image you want where is in the boy -- Butcher who is at home through what's. Surf and certainly one of the two lead characters in the book is he someone that you should be constantly and they wandering up by. Someone that should be constantly trying to make your mind that look like he should never. I think he's -- put your -- morally or any other -- when things -- really like even doing historically is the war stories and things like that even today -- and Hezbollah like I think it -- more story -- is there -- that kind of stuff coming -- I would I would love to do more war stories and and I I'd take every opportunity -- to them but that the sad fact is that they really don't sell -- much. I would like to do I have ideas for at least another dozen. Of the deposited it in the vertigo -- and I would love to do more popular Britain's. Any opportunity. I. I I guess again to tell a street war story and outsourced -- without any. Found I see your time travel elements to -- yes I will I will -- it but it's. They're few and far between you you have to do a lot of top selling or or -- better selling materials to justify a company. Given you the go ahead to do war story."
" I've been reading some of that some is that even talked about and you mentioned how you like to take a character concept and taken apart and inserted break -- what it is. On the other anything either any like mainstream characters you would still want to work on a dollar you find yourself."
" Well it's not as weird. There's my opinion my own theory is that there's a way into every character like let's say I. It all ended stormy tomorrow and I had to just start over again and I had to be the guy in line for the green mountain joke. There's a way in the I'd find a way and not notice senator red eyed character whatsoever. But in terms of ones that I would find in there saying it's all so. So I'm probably -- and Superman. Reasons being. With super amount I think that would be -- house to say something really in -- by quite a character here is over 100 quintessential. American immigrants I've heard about on the other kinds yeah. Almost almost a messianic figure you know he's. To me he's like Jesus and he. He's constantly -- done by humanity and yet he never gives up on the bum on the other hand that the first American comic book I ever read was Dark Knight. Which give me a very false picture of American comic books. And it didn't quite. I think I could find a way to do spot on and an interesting way that he's going to think about -- on the ground but he is about -- and so. The risk free and -- the past twenty years worth of of a bomb on comics they've they've gone all right to pull box from what we're doing in Dark Knight if you could go back to Dark -- I think you could do something interesting and by the way I don't mean Bob -- a psychotic and I simply mean about -- on as I guy Hayden. In total control. With an incredible sense of authority among who gives orders and he jumped. Come on who has thought I was ten steps ahead who's never surprised -- I'm speaking of -- you're going back to to hit man right so and other supposed going to come out you know whatever is that dependent on well if the if a new book which is two part of the story it'll be all right to sort of that's forty years -- so whatever. Coming in September and October if they do well enough maybe we'll see some more had fun stuff being collected I would be delighted to me it's. To me it's -- moment. In a lot of ways it's my favorite and it's kind of stuck in limbo you know preacher publisher held -- they've all been very well served by reprints. The boys is obviously going to do very well prepared mind I feel like it's just lost in the wilderness and I would love to get -- and you know -- favorite -- Van Halen. Well I've I was a big fan of the -- excellent they've panel reversed on heart. Wolf when I was not really a -- to me club that he is a crime that he is a crime fighter he's he fights crime with elegant -- This thing that we can't talk to but what did what we're trying really went out and I was. It in terms of just you know about that one jokes that worked really really well I liked blind postured to do is that the daredevil are they. In the one million issue. In terms of the you know on a wider scale I was terribly fond of 65. Dates or yeah going to say I really like them all like stocks crew elected homey and select not elect Sean and -- like hide. I like ring go to like a girl hi can I like that little guy it's -- It. If -- seeds hadn't intervened to get to see them propping up not -- for the rest of their lives."
" When I think of -- comments -- the best friend and everything was always one of my favorite pairs one of those by. But tell us certain parts again I was like he was one of the -- they're really just -- comments like out of all the care to your friend who's a who's kicking -- that's when you'll really like it when it. And -- most -- say where do you -- me what you liked and well you missed not writing that you like right."
" We you probably would be Tommy Mullen and -- he was very very easy because he had my sense of humor. The good news. Other favorites of mine would be the two characters and -- Which is the avatar but I do -- three people on atop the bread if I'm lucky. Do you and I neighbor of terribly fond of them. It's homey as I say. I very much like enjoyed reading candidate at -- the -- service on under the authority. -- guys like. -- Is there anything else he -- about the preacher TV show or any any updates there's so much a contented you know I mean I'm thinking -- We we are. We do we really haven't gone very far with it. If it. If it goes obviously if it actually becomes a series. I think. Well I think it's fair shot as it HBO because what it needs someone to. Someone decide to -- not missing craziness and non controversial material things will actually be worth fighting for. And it's that may have to fight hard for it -- it would be pretty controversial material I think that's about also thanks I appreciate it and I don't answer."
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" I think they sold the -- industry sure it's not up there. We get we get wins broadcast and you know that is I don't know. And you call yourself -- DC fan."











