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" Hey welcome to -- and -- via podcast and become the discussed website iFanboy dot com I'm Connor."

" I'm Ron and I -- jobs and finally we're at the end the line with civil war. -- you don't know we're talking about and if you've been living in Australia where they don't come excellently accounts back router -- those in New Zealand in -- but -- mr. marvel has been done. Stuck in there -- big company crossover now for what it's been what nine months and months follow. Second half 2006 the media doesn't yeah. And I graduate college -- testifying -- so it's been very long crossover and we're finally at the end initially -- we take some time kind of look back. With that something's gonna turn the clock acted this summer of 2006 you know went to see -- let's see whether it was worth it to a there was good -- And and just kind of you know kind of talk about this kind of therapy session how."

" If it was worth the good question because unlike other crossovers the swing. Took the entire universe except for the excellent books which is you know a little bit Nixon looks and alcohol and just held on and it's Preston you could escape -- services for months this is a big gamble --"

" So yeah and just to kind of get the recap everybody knows this but essentially last spring. Early summer they want civil war and basically that's our point was is that the new warriors were filming a reality show based around there superhero. And they went to take up -- super villains and a horrible disaster happened in the city of Stamford Connecticut end up blowing up. And over 600 people died including a handful of kids is right across -- school. Perfect press really really smart grid up yet lightweight -- what would people do they were totally you superpower reality show -- Politico right exactly and so the public reaction is this huge backlash -- heroes saying what the here is doing into the -- they've got this great power. Our wind and check whenever and so the government immediately follows up with a superhero registration act basically that. Kind of boring from a twenty -- premise that they didn't expect in the eighties where they were gonna do mutant registration logical next up front music and it makes makes sense -- the idea being that you're superhero new powers he should register with the government -- your identity is a nuclear powers are -- trained to become almost like copper fireman saying that copper fireman is I'm responsible accountable for the work that you while on the job. Also so -- to be here."

" if you hand on your license and you can shoot thinking that it had he should be licensed ultimately. So mom and Tony Stark Iron Man has been working with the government insists he figures are going to do this anyways we should work with them so that we police police ourselves. And that's what -- the civil war. -- basically an awful thought the source Captain America saying this is wrong you're infringing on a civil liberties. Which is which was ironic because Captain America you think he's the government kind of seem not he's been here he's not captain government is kept in America. Right do you think that they as the biggest. The biggest soldier on the government for the past you know sixty years somebody says this is what we're doing he would uphold the law but he nonetheless. -- some -- some of the road America but I'm not saying that that's what the -- that that that -- you say that aren't -- a threat."

" So so what happens is that side -- kept America on one side against it. And Iron Man for the registration act all the heroes and slipped on the middle with the exception accidentally he says he's staying neutral. Com and whole -- and space. And essentially what happens is that Iron Man and his team starts trying to hunt down kept American his team to bring an end they had this and hopefully otherwise like scenes like that. The page sign here on the left. If -- a -- if it's. Put -- it says that initial premise so worried about June 2006 and we get some more number one and what and how -- handled that was is that it was almost looks like identity crisis -- the PDC side or into crisis there's it is seven issue miniseries that would chronicled in the absence of war. And there would be other crossover books -- the premise was that he didn't need to read the other books in order to know was gone with the story. Like usually usual case -- yeah Mike where you gotta read Captain America number new 122 and at least Iron Man number 7217. At least than -- and his number 22 and was like Reynolds will come across a response Germany hates. So the deed books come out and it was really exciting it was good and and an irony is -- this last summer and."

" Yeah -- cannot totally in the first three months we're just getting busted something here and these are we were so senator. I don't ever read my books about him right away so quickly get home but I would -- I get back extraordinary civil war right off of that that's outside and -- its next chapter."

" Net and and it had that momentum up until about July of two six it was August. That and that's when they kind of hit. Him. So you know you could hopefully it'll be picked up up up up up up."

" This is almost a visual that the Palestinians make him an instant hit and got sick he's actually and the book became late. For example that was the story of a sudden the book was delayed it was delayed again from the and that was a ripple effect because every book in the line was the taxes of more suddenly looks are either way out of -- store realize that they are also pushed back to match the support book. And then all hell broke him."

" So right exactly and what really then happened is it almost became a quagmire of Vietnam like proportions in the marvel universe where it just was never ending -- I really don't think you wish compared to think. Our civil war and from over 4006 that we -- 2007 into the seven years Vietnam conflict. Might be over exaggerating this guy out there now this track this back and we hate to."

" Both the war -- those on board but you could put. -- that it's over now we know I'm inside one. Kind of candidate Captain America was killed. Homicides. Overall you I think we'll loses successful overall we'll just leave -- in them competitors from. You finally just marvels like him us."

" I think that I mean marvels Arnold's mind stuff that I would most -- it. I don't know I the -- its limits I think overall the story itself the event the civil war thing was was not fat. And we said this before it's the it was -- this morning it started -- really good men. The ending just didn't kind of makes sense to us it's not didn't it wasn't it outright wrong and it wasn't that I do like you to something doesn't -- Is seem quite right and I. You know what it felt like they came up with -- storyline and they had to squeeze everybody in the boxes that story line. And what you got was something that that was what I don't know is quite feel right they had to. Jerry rig everything else to fit into that as well and -- you had civil war against civil war front line and I think Frontline was really good -- it. Problem was that -- series that was done by politicians and rock box and box. We're likely characterizations that I had been familiar with just -- way way off from that that didn't seem right. You know there's no doubt the beginning was extremely exciting and I don't know what it was that didn't work however. That being said -- at the point of this -- to shake up the marvel universe that was -- really successful levels and I think Jesus that's club you know what that's been done and now. You know than the positive side effects that that the writers have all sorts of stuff."

" New ideas to go play with toilet because you know people always say the company -- promote their events by saying -- shake up -- shake up tomorrow -- of these -- B Hussein had nothing -- changes it's like the -- the office. This actually this is actually change things the change. The whole universe I would say that the book itself it was akin to me when I go dropping. Is that. In the beginning. I really fast and really good into it's really good and about half returns are faltering in the body and fall -- my face and that -- the last two issues of civil war always tell when he's been talking to. Does that have a problem his -- is for results and there's a -- caught up. Tried again last time for a the last. Two inches or just not good then seventh issue was was off almost offensive well and it's gonna."

" And in terms of the not like Selma and on the Alabama. It I think it can take is that right this is a I think compared to what happened -- not so much Maxima now Smith. But yeah. And I think that's the news from how much and it's funny because a lot was made him believe this is what happened was that what we do we for the team and then fell ill. And the books we came off -- you know kind of -- and a skeptical about the illness. I don't know I feel like another -- earlier feels that the BC a lot of illnesses -- oscars and and I have no health insurance -- but I think it's hard to argue that like electing and you just like. I don't when I go to work and it's like when ST today in the -- a question that was and you know you're sick united in and and Salina."

" They have to -- when it. -- one point oh yeah."

" the comic fans always have to find the home there's a big conspiracy behind everything yeah is it involves not late because you're sick of mostly because supersonic -- me. Well no I never said I don't you yeah that was the general reaction yeah the whole thing. He does say he doesn't hate annoyance that he should kidnapped by pushing that one -- president elect him. -- This vehicle -- yeah. If you get sick you can go into work Merck and you can do you -- these artists like you elect its physical coax not knowing it's not gonna me see you to look at. Now you can't experience. When you can't draw from -- right now it is like the recovery is like and you don't have it in like the working doing isn't is it you know the it takes a lot I have a delicate balance of a comic book is that. That are there only have a slept for months. You know on if you fall behind a week Matt and everything is off."

" And at that that that cut ties into what I think was the big the big problem with civil war was that from what we've heard of marvels at the idea -- open the idea."

" Like early 2006 bring -- that -- this is great what's wrong with it and a kind of pushed aside everything that plan. And name rolled this out whereas from a production standpoint I'd probably wait until they had first 45 missions in -- and and this is it this is the problem of -- is there aren't and this is where we can we -- we come up with the argument late books verses -- come out not on time -- books that a rush to come at a time aren't as good. And is gonna look great in the trade and -- same article went through their influence on my net and on the personal monthly album of the book guy for going to commit to a monthly book. Then."

" Then commit and get it done and if you commit to do multi booked a change in the status quo here universe don't have a million and one books tied into it so that the entire universe gets counted among the most easily that's what happened -- put up -- Canadian chip that's where that's that's life."

" I think if that's true any study of they had to. The best of intentions and in doing that they were like well let's push the envelope and they stumbled and when they did that the whole thing -- went off the rails a little bit."

" I don't (%expletive) fault them for going for now I can either remove all lose anything is ultimately hopefully I get some warning comes up ultimately. Like it's not on my ultimate book but I mean epithet and unite the idea -- thumbs up I don't give a thumbs up I didn't dislike it I enjoyed it. It did changes test code or something that we got about there's some things are mad about all I like the next speech just that I was this a little disappointed with the execution yeah."

" I."

" I don't know Josh and I don't think you -- either thumbs up or thumbs down I thought it's very successful ultimately what we try to do it changed everything the book itself. Was not -- militants Matt."

" Well then why is that. What I felt as if they they said that you can read civil war alone enough to read any of the excellent books. And I didn't feel that extra I felt because I was reading a lot of the Phillips what did you could I think you -- but it's hard I respect -- the other one right the focus of the civil war books were so we're subsurface little a lot of books I think you could actually read it and understand that you wouldn't get. That's you know 10% of -- get 10%. You're not taking information and having more that but if you understand -- the story. You know. You can read this -- Well that actually isn't Segway has yet email from one of our viewers Christopher and Stillwater Oklahoma. Who rode in and he says he -- He's been get into civil war and after the he read captain Americas reports of work -- and Andy wants the and in the civil war story. He's going to grab the trade -- reachable were 127 Sunni Arab trade want to seven. But he says that he understands that there are a lot of times that he wants to know whether any of the time and this is definitely an up to clean up the story. But what other books he read. Well here's what you could be reached. That's a lot of books 86 total actually. Down month but she couldn't read exactly so well I believe I read most everybody academic and forty irate about 60678. That you -- doesn't -- at all -- six yes. Some yeah -- thought and complaining about the so wholesalers probably on a message board Clinton -- both. That is -- as when there are if you're part. -- And we would probably say don't waste time. You'll do fine -- it -- civil war Frontline had on a main story that just mentioned -- Paul Burnett Paul Jenkins and -- drama on route one box. And it was awesome backups or is one that speed ball that was drawn by Steve Lieber as well some of the -- hosted still analog stuff and idealism that. There are going to be eleven or twelve missions Frontline in the to come -- in between every civil war issue. And when the schedule thrown out -- CMO it was a -- analysts but battled scheduled to run off and this these -- stories and up. Taking away from civil war. I think that's."

" Part of the reason why. People -- so and about by the end because all of these time books and all -- all of these branched off miniseries they were all not very good and they all got delayed also unveil it reduces the perfect some of the lateness and that riding in right."

" Well -- that that there -- some real problem was pretty bad but they're somewhere like the runways on the -- awful it was all had nothing to do so warms it seems to bring back -- way. The civil war X-Men. It was awful I mean they pulled -- FedEx Manhattan along with Tony that police are and then there was this hasn't kept Americans now he was the first came OK -- remember there was one really good issue cable mental it was fun and I think there's a pick and we -- Illini got a lot of -- on the new vendor is books that tennis is focusing I -- we're gonna I'm focusing enough on an individual member yeah there -- senator Tom. But other than that is what it instantly there was really only one that's an out as -- three."

" Another issue until -- I think that these amazing Spider-Man issues. Yeah way up through the end we're probably the strongest ones of -- he's run. I've yet because I had started to read it and decide that it is it is similar civil war that was -- be getting an invite me ends. -- And that's worthwhile but that's one of the best one of the law. Wolverine written by Marc Guggenheim and drawn by them on -- the remnants --"

" Basically that. Who backed up from the people -- Basically the idea is that nobody's gonna connect for the guy who actually -- it -- killed everybody Millen who feel -- got the wolverines is Iron Man. You know what I'm gonna do this he's the UK on to do this and -- and does that help cyclops on breath and then some he just goes on dozens of his story -- stated that you know in a bubble basically it's funny because it. It didn't get touched by -- get a civil war."

" Looks and -- but also beyond that there was the whole idea of that business there was and there was the government. Thing behind the profiteering then we'll -- sitting. War profiteering going on behind also morphing and that was the damage control. Company which no one else even testing and now in Canada. Now it's supposed to be the whole secret like they were pushing their position that's so that they can get the contract and this is."

" Example there are a lot of great ideas and civil war that got touched on and didn't get elaborated and I know it's hard but when you when you cast -- wide of the net try to do somewhat cheap these little jams didn't miss."

" But go back there I can't imagine they don't release that wolverines that it was a lot of fun if you just like Wolverine -- it was a great -- Only by Wolverine and have a -- now -- and then I was totally down foreign Marc Guggenheim is is me defendant. This is transmitted data actually saw his name in the credits of like of law and order rerun -- I was -- the gym but I looked episode. Really -- TV writer and we're not like not like TV read it like you know alzheimer's you've seen -- gritty crime you know sort of we're working days yes that prime loans that is up pretty good so yes there are."

" A ton of felons but not silicon is that all all all probably wolverines from the one he if he can jump demographic factors on the list I don't know what to help those -- of works doesn't. That was that that was the."

" Between Nixon they had that customers incident we're going to support us two pages well liked to call high -- the -- to -- we're doing. You over the civil war yes I did an okay we don't support registration. -- them. From that -- so -- solves -- is polarizing event -- history it was a lot of fun I enjoy dividends on all on have a hard time believing you enjoyed it simply because -- out of time it's been complaining about it you know -- Well I like that part of the fun Iowa he's got to get it that is it for nothing else. He gave us dobbs who is -- plane and leaders Smith. The math ability for them. You know you have a lot to talk about then I gotta tell you get. It -- podcast more fun to do that it made the message boards more fun to be in some even like when they screwed up it's fun for us remove any note that marvel knows that it's they like. Let's let's mess with them and so that we throw our arms are -- get -- Who beat Floyd was probably done perfectly just DC. Now you're being -- conspiratorial -- well. Not yet you. Ronald good purposes group that was good but -- see if you -- it. I thought about it that way so puppets I hope not -- figure on whether the I'm doing it is now we I don't think that I don't think it likely -- on an -- and I got -- watching the third season Gilmore Girls and I got. I got a -- This is always always watching you -- does not on this side of my issue -- we will have solutions and -- Do your Miller impression news is. We imminent quote this is -- for some miracle the opposite of just let the -- get a little little click cancel because -- evidence -- that vehicle maybe -- place -- not afraid. Better better better better -- nation. It's and hit did you ever -- went back on you CT all the previous arguments he had to -- all the ones argument probably for the wrong ZoneAlarm and it is a very discussion next. Initiative. Put that -- all -- look let's listen briefly you this soured me on the initiative which is to follow. Storyline I'm not buying it that's. That's -- did you run the same. Today and that isn't in her mid wrap up now will you jump on his client to accept wrap up. So yeah Atlanta there's a hundred has gotten in the Utah got all the other previews of the than podcasts."

" Or does is email contact black and -- dot com and you can comment on the lord it pains anything else. We might do -- that somebody can call 88 envoys and tell -- impaired due to the -- three to six."

" six sat through Friday. Because we get real we get back on hand we call that number and you can give us as voicemail. And these the podcast that we want to of the video podcast. So and I am done with civil war. It was a long year -- think it's -- over it -- she's been as a whole year and a can."

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" My dish Janet. The indications of their strong recently moved into. So even tomorrow and less -- should not be able to run union feel compelled to write a few lines and the phone -- Iowa and I have no misgivings about or lack of confidence in the -- and -- courage is not halt halt. I know American civilization now leans upon triumph of the government. Hillary -- to those who live for us to the blood inside Stanford's past. And I will benefit. Laid -- all modular in his life and maintains them. Janet my love the used to. It's seems to find new money cables. In my own country comes over me and only and as you resisted the with all the changed that of the."

" Doctor Henry Hank can. Also known as --"

" Hey welcome to -- and -- via podcast and become the discussed website iFanboy dot com I'm Connor."

" I'm Ron and I -- jobs and finally we're at the end the line with civil war. -- you don't know we're talking about and if you've been living in Australia where they don't come excellently accounts back router -- those in New Zealand in -- but -- mr. marvel has been done. Stuck in there -- big company crossover now for what it's been what nine months and months follow. Second half 2006 the media doesn't yeah. And I graduate college -- testifying -- so it's been very long crossover and we're finally at the end initially -- we take some time kind of look back. With that something's gonna turn the clock acted this summer of 2006 you know went to see -- let's see whether it was worth it to a there was good -- And and just kind of you know kind of talk about this kind of therapy session how."

" If it was worth the good question because unlike other crossovers the swing. Took the entire universe except for the excellent books which is you know a little bit Nixon looks and alcohol and just held on and it's Preston you could escape -- services for months this is a big gamble --"

" So yeah and just to kind of get the recap everybody knows this but essentially last spring. Early summer they want civil war and basically that's our point was is that the new warriors were filming a reality show based around there superhero. And they went to take up -- super villains and a horrible disaster happened in the city of Stamford Connecticut end up blowing up. And over 600 people died including a handful of kids is right across -- school. Perfect press really really smart grid up yet lightweight -- what would people do they were totally you superpower reality show -- Politico right exactly and so the public reaction is this huge backlash -- heroes saying what the here is doing into the -- they've got this great power. Our wind and check whenever and so the government immediately follows up with a superhero registration act basically that. Kind of boring from a twenty -- premise that they didn't expect in the eighties where they were gonna do mutant registration logical next up front music and it makes makes sense -- the idea being that you're superhero new powers he should register with the government -- your identity is a nuclear powers are -- trained to become almost like copper fireman saying that copper fireman is I'm responsible accountable for the work that you while on the job. Also so -- to be here."

" if you hand on your license and you can shoot thinking that it had he should be licensed ultimately. So mom and Tony Stark Iron Man has been working with the government insists he figures are going to do this anyways we should work with them so that we police police ourselves. And that's what -- the civil war. -- basically an awful thought the source Captain America saying this is wrong you're infringing on a civil liberties. Which is which was ironic because Captain America you think he's the government kind of seem not he's been here he's not captain government is kept in America. Right do you think that they as the biggest. The biggest soldier on the government for the past you know sixty years somebody says this is what we're doing he would uphold the law but he nonetheless. -- some -- some of the road America but I'm not saying that that's what the -- that that that -- you say that aren't -- a threat."

" So so what happens is that side -- kept America on one side against it. And Iron Man for the registration act all the heroes and slipped on the middle with the exception accidentally he says he's staying neutral. Com and whole -- and space. And essentially what happens is that Iron Man and his team starts trying to hunt down kept American his team to bring an end they had this and hopefully otherwise like scenes like that. The page sign here on the left. If -- a -- if it's. Put -- it says that initial premise so worried about June 2006 and we get some more number one and what and how -- handled that was is that it was almost looks like identity crisis -- the PDC side or into crisis there's it is seven issue miniseries that would chronicled in the absence of war. And there would be other crossover books -- the premise was that he didn't need to read the other books in order to know was gone with the story. Like usually usual case -- yeah Mike where you gotta read Captain America number new 122 and at least Iron Man number 7217. At least than -- and his number 22 and was like Reynolds will come across a response Germany hates. So the deed books come out and it was really exciting it was good and and an irony is -- this last summer and."

" Yeah -- cannot totally in the first three months we're just getting busted something here and these are we were so senator. I don't ever read my books about him right away so quickly get home but I would -- I get back extraordinary civil war right off of that that's outside and -- its next chapter."

" Net and and it had that momentum up until about July of two six it was August. That and that's when they kind of hit. Him. So you know you could hopefully it'll be picked up up up up up up."

" This is almost a visual that the Palestinians make him an instant hit and got sick he's actually and the book became late. For example that was the story of a sudden the book was delayed it was delayed again from the and that was a ripple effect because every book in the line was the taxes of more suddenly looks are either way out of -- store realize that they are also pushed back to match the support book. And then all hell broke him."

" So right exactly and what really then happened is it almost became a quagmire of Vietnam like proportions in the marvel universe where it just was never ending -- I really don't think you wish compared to think. Our civil war and from over 4006 that we -- 2007 into the seven years Vietnam conflict. Might be over exaggerating this guy out there now this track this back and we hate to."

" Both the war -- those on board but you could put. -- that it's over now we know I'm inside one. Kind of candidate Captain America was killed. Homicides. Overall you I think we'll loses successful overall we'll just leave -- in them competitors from. You finally just marvels like him us."

" I think that I mean marvels Arnold's mind stuff that I would most -- it. I don't know I the -- its limits I think overall the story itself the event the civil war thing was was not fat. And we said this before it's the it was -- this morning it started -- really good men. The ending just didn't kind of makes sense to us it's not didn't it wasn't it outright wrong and it wasn't that I do like you to something doesn't -- Is seem quite right and I. You know what it felt like they came up with -- storyline and they had to squeeze everybody in the boxes that story line. And what you got was something that that was what I don't know is quite feel right they had to. Jerry rig everything else to fit into that as well and -- you had civil war against civil war front line and I think Frontline was really good -- it. Problem was that -- series that was done by politicians and rock box and box. We're likely characterizations that I had been familiar with just -- way way off from that that didn't seem right. You know there's no doubt the beginning was extremely exciting and I don't know what it was that didn't work however. That being said -- at the point of this -- to shake up the marvel universe that was -- really successful levels and I think Jesus that's club you know what that's been done and now. You know than the positive side effects that that the writers have all sorts of stuff."

" New ideas to go play with toilet because you know people always say the company -- promote their events by saying -- shake up -- shake up tomorrow -- of these -- B Hussein had nothing -- changes it's like the -- the office. This actually this is actually change things the change. The whole universe I would say that the book itself it was akin to me when I go dropping. Is that. In the beginning. I really fast and really good into it's really good and about half returns are faltering in the body and fall -- my face and that -- the last two issues of civil war always tell when he's been talking to. Does that have a problem his -- is for results and there's a -- caught up. Tried again last time for a the last. Two inches or just not good then seventh issue was was off almost offensive well and it's gonna."

" And in terms of the not like Selma and on the Alabama. It I think it can take is that right this is a I think compared to what happened -- not so much Maxima now Smith. But yeah. And I think that's the news from how much and it's funny because a lot was made him believe this is what happened was that what we do we for the team and then fell ill. And the books we came off -- you know kind of -- and a skeptical about the illness. I don't know I feel like another -- earlier feels that the BC a lot of illnesses -- oscars and and I have no health insurance -- but I think it's hard to argue that like electing and you just like. I don't when I go to work and it's like when ST today in the -- a question that was and you know you're sick united in and and Salina."

" They have to -- when it. -- one point oh yeah."

" the comic fans always have to find the home there's a big conspiracy behind everything yeah is it involves not late because you're sick of mostly because supersonic -- me. Well no I never said I don't you yeah that was the general reaction yeah the whole thing. He does say he doesn't hate annoyance that he should kidnapped by pushing that one -- president elect him. -- This vehicle -- yeah. If you get sick you can go into work Merck and you can do you -- these artists like you elect its physical coax not knowing it's not gonna me see you to look at. Now you can't experience. When you can't draw from -- right now it is like the recovery is like and you don't have it in like the working doing isn't is it you know the it takes a lot I have a delicate balance of a comic book is that. That are there only have a slept for months. You know on if you fall behind a week Matt and everything is off."

" And at that that that cut ties into what I think was the big the big problem with civil war was that from what we've heard of marvels at the idea -- open the idea."

" Like early 2006 bring -- that -- this is great what's wrong with it and a kind of pushed aside everything that plan. And name rolled this out whereas from a production standpoint I'd probably wait until they had first 45 missions in -- and and this is it this is the problem of -- is there aren't and this is where we can we -- we come up with the argument late books verses -- come out not on time -- books that a rush to come at a time aren't as good. And is gonna look great in the trade and -- same article went through their influence on my net and on the personal monthly album of the book guy for going to commit to a monthly book. Then."

" Then commit and get it done and if you commit to do multi booked a change in the status quo here universe don't have a million and one books tied into it so that the entire universe gets counted among the most easily that's what happened -- put up -- Canadian chip that's where that's that's life."

" I think if that's true any study of they had to. The best of intentions and in doing that they were like well let's push the envelope and they stumbled and when they did that the whole thing -- went off the rails a little bit."

" I don't (%expletive) fault them for going for now I can either remove all lose anything is ultimately hopefully I get some warning comes up ultimately. Like it's not on my ultimate book but I mean epithet and unite the idea -- thumbs up I don't give a thumbs up I didn't dislike it I enjoyed it. It did changes test code or something that we got about there's some things are mad about all I like the next speech just that I was this a little disappointed with the execution yeah."

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" I don't know Josh and I don't think you -- either thumbs up or thumbs down I thought it's very successful ultimately what we try to do it changed everything the book itself. Was not -- militants Matt."

" Well then why is that. What I felt as if they they said that you can read civil war alone enough to read any of the excellent books. And I didn't feel that extra I felt because I was reading a lot of the Phillips what did you could I think you -- but it's hard I respect -- the other one right the focus of the civil war books were so we're subsurface little a lot of books I think you could actually read it and understand that you wouldn't get. That's you know 10% of -- get 10%. You're not taking information and having more that but if you understand -- the story. You know. You can read this -- Well that actually isn't Segway has yet email from one of our viewers Christopher and Stillwater Oklahoma. Who rode in and he says he -- He's been get into civil war and after the he read captain Americas reports of work -- and Andy wants the and in the civil war story. He's going to grab the trade -- reachable were 127 Sunni Arab trade want to seven. But he says that he understands that there are a lot of times that he wants to know whether any of the time and this is definitely an up to clean up the story. But what other books he read. Well here's what you could be reached. That's a lot of books 86 total actually. Down month but she couldn't read exactly so well I believe I read most everybody academic and forty irate about 60678. That you -- doesn't -- at all -- six yes. Some yeah -- thought and complaining about the so wholesalers probably on a message board Clinton -- both. That is -- as when there are if you're part. -- And we would probably say don't waste time. You'll do fine -- it -- civil war Frontline had on a main story that just mentioned -- Paul Burnett Paul Jenkins and -- drama on route one box. And it was awesome backups or is one that speed ball that was drawn by Steve Lieber as well some of the -- hosted still analog stuff and idealism that. There are going to be eleven or twelve missions Frontline in the to come -- in between every civil war issue. And when the schedule thrown out -- CMO it was a -- analysts but battled scheduled to run off and this these -- stories and up. Taking away from civil war. I think that's."

" Part of the reason why. People -- so and about by the end because all of these time books and all -- all of these branched off miniseries they were all not very good and they all got delayed also unveil it reduces the perfect some of the lateness and that riding in right."

" Well -- that that there -- some real problem was pretty bad but they're somewhere like the runways on the -- awful it was all had nothing to do so warms it seems to bring back -- way. The civil war X-Men. It was awful I mean they pulled -- FedEx Manhattan along with Tony that police are and then there was this hasn't kept Americans now he was the first came OK -- remember there was one really good issue cable mental it was fun and I think there's a pick and we -- Illini got a lot of -- on the new vendor is books that tennis is focusing I -- we're gonna I'm focusing enough on an individual member yeah there -- senator Tom. But other than that is what it instantly there was really only one that's an out as -- three."

" Another issue until -- I think that these amazing Spider-Man issues. Yeah way up through the end we're probably the strongest ones of -- he's run. I've yet because I had started to read it and decide that it is it is similar civil war that was -- be getting an invite me ends. -- And that's worthwhile but that's one of the best one of the law. Wolverine written by Marc Guggenheim and drawn by them on -- the remnants --"

" Basically that. Who backed up from the people -- Basically the idea is that nobody's gonna connect for the guy who actually -- it -- killed everybody Millen who feel -- got the wolverines is Iron Man. You know what I'm gonna do this he's the UK on to do this and -- and does that help cyclops on breath and then some he just goes on dozens of his story -- stated that you know in a bubble basically it's funny because it. It didn't get touched by -- get a civil war."

" Looks and -- but also beyond that there was the whole idea of that business there was and there was the government. Thing behind the profiteering then we'll -- sitting. War profiteering going on behind also morphing and that was the damage control. Company which no one else even testing and now in Canada. Now it's supposed to be the whole secret like they were pushing their position that's so that they can get the contract and this is."

" Example there are a lot of great ideas and civil war that got touched on and didn't get elaborated and I know it's hard but when you when you cast -- wide of the net try to do somewhat cheap these little jams didn't miss."

" But go back there I can't imagine they don't release that wolverines that it was a lot of fun if you just like Wolverine -- it was a great -- Only by Wolverine and have a -- now -- and then I was totally down foreign Marc Guggenheim is is me defendant. This is transmitted data actually saw his name in the credits of like of law and order rerun -- I was -- the gym but I looked episode. Really -- TV writer and we're not like not like TV read it like you know alzheimer's you've seen -- gritty crime you know sort of we're working days yes that prime loans that is up pretty good so yes there are."

" A ton of felons but not silicon is that all all all probably wolverines from the one he if he can jump demographic factors on the list I don't know what to help those -- of works doesn't. That was that that was the."

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" Or does is email contact black and -- dot com and you can comment on the lord it pains anything else. We might do -- that somebody can call 88 envoys and tell -- impaired due to the -- three to six."

" six sat through Friday. Because we get real we get back on hand we call that number and you can give us as voicemail. And these the podcast that we want to of the video podcast. So and I am done with civil war. It was a long year -- think it's -- over it -- she's been as a whole year and a can."