Hellboy
Saturday, October 20th, 2007 running time 20:21
In this episode, iFanboy goes straight to Hellboy, a landmark creator owned series they've ignored for too long. It's time to settle up and give creator Mike Mignola his due.
Hellboy is a true treasure among modern comics, and Josh, Ron, and Conor feel the need to share their newfound appreciation for Mike Mignola's masterpiece.
They talk about the basics of Hellboy, and which books you can start with, to spinoff properties like the B.P.R.D., and Lobster Johnson. Is it a horror comic? Supernatural sci-fi? Or is it just the best of all these things, in a series that is like no other.
But wait, there's also a pretty decent Hellboy movie, and it turns out Ron Perlman was the perfect choice. Then there's an animated movie, and even an impending video game.
There might not be a better place to start your Hellboy education than right here.
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Highlights
cartoon network
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17:01, 17:01
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Indiana Jones
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4:43, 4:43
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17:32, 17:32
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movie theater
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14:46, 15:01, 14:46, 15:01
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cartoon network
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17:01, 17:01
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Indiana Jones
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4:43, 4:43
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video games
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17:32, 17:32
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movie theater
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14:46, 15:01, 14:46, 15:01
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Automatically Generated Transcript(may not be 100% accurate) ( more )
" Fear in my right hand the blue. Whom to call Japan. Hey welcome to life and wicked video podcast -- vote that -- that iFanboy dot com often cottage is Ron. I'm jobs and have a little bemused look at -- and it's all math we talk about hell boy. Yeah we may have seen the the first and only incidents costly ever -- Stop it it was a good evidence not on this is -- we first started and show you read some of."
" Yeah -- act I've read. Published -- relegated to the school district they tell us about that but at what at first -- early ninety's I expect that I didn't. Because my middle of the character of the crater of the character in the one books had done some art for the her accidentally -- Marmol that's us and goes back and today they were the marbles -- departed the right thing what followed him. Is it realistic okay and you."
" I guess I I think -- write -- longer than I thought I had an we Wii's First Lady Michelle -- none of us are really help when we got taken to task for that. And all Clinton never read it and I went back to win an election did read it and I think a part of a couple years."
" Well I had heard all about it a lot I was well aware of but I never read it because for some reason I just wasn't terribly interest it. Or so life. Follow. Arm and one vehicle. They really got within about a lot lately they've got goes up we already like and how it the other stuff we we didn't know we'd like. Some -- but. A bunch of people on the website and and through emails words at him that's true but people were like you need to read it it's fantastic and so. I read all of us do you you're like -- Orton. Went out I bought the first book and people said. It's not as good because in that might annually didn't wasn't she wasn't companies scripting abilities we hired John burned to come on put a lot of words on it again and he did -- really not even that I didn't. It was all right yet people gave me disclaimers like before you read it you know it gets better and I still really enjoyed it. Bomb. So busy -- we're gonna go through some of the stuff that bit about how boy that's good and and and you know we'll go from there. Hell boy. Is a character who is you -- it. Basically and part of the whole story is there's this large. Mystery of who he is Mary comes from when his purposes yet and that's basically what the whole book is you're getting their little bits of it sort of thrown out there that's -- yeah yeah ID. -- it's it's Wolverine I just realized that -- up. All. Always first appearance was in the San Diego comic con comics number two in 1993. She I don't know that issue is a valuable."
" Yeah that's what I'm sure it is after that it got full minutes ago. Into the legend and print are now remember it was Easter island statute that was what land. -- which -- the started of the traders didn't want you image had been legend but dark -- said this will give you an imprint it's John -- next man. Frank Miller that's what's -- city came you know homeless not out of them. I'm looking at Iran and -- Tenuous balance I tricked into transfers like yeah. I thought a."
" Well that things that you how boy is that there isn't a number 1234567. In and it's not on going book and it's sort of he's appeared at -- dark horse presents and special little bits and there are some stories that are reviews long. And there are some stories that are couple issues long even want it -- and now what they do is. They'll be a little miniseries and those will be numbered one through six you know on Natalie over now that whole series by the title. And the -- had they were made for trade before. Things always are trade that's very forward thinking that now yeah. -- so. The big thing about this is that there's that giant story going on the huge mythology and when you start the story you don't know who -- boy is. And -- way to know who held boy is and you slowly watching his world to pull back there's all these forces of evil and good and otherwise trying to convince them. You know and and basically -- be -- thing. Is he doesn't want to -- So these that was intent to be just yet. So in in 1944 during -- to not to have all everything you do this book part of what makes I think."
" Public interest thing is that it ties into a lot of real life kind of things and Hitler and so the Marlins were very into the cult when they were like also the Indiana Jones and it mythology ties in fact it. One of the lost. We're out Hitler didn't unless you know unlike what we see America Venus this government. Is very kind of scientific and realistic. That it's believed that Hitler believed and believe that things have powers that kind of plays off that idea."
" Well we're probably and it is a little bit but a lot of the series is based on. A combination of historical facts and and mythology while all types of mythology and and Manuel uses that as a backbone to lay his story and so it's not all you know it's not all completely original material a lot of it is based on different kinds of minutes from different cultures and times and things like that so what happens in the story is that he's. He's born in 1944 and you learn that and then he's a little kid and and you kind of skip forward. And you find out that ever since he was ten years old he's working -- BP RD which is the bureau paranormal research and defense needs. Bomb. And and they go around the world investigating. You know paranormal stuff and fighting bad guys and things like that and they don't really dwell on who he was what -- came -- like that. And then threw his adventures people start telling him. You know we run into monster in the -- news this into the I don't want to know I don't things are loosely tied to -- and they kind of ignore the fact that he's the big red dude but who grew up really fast. It but he is sort of start to get all this stuff. Revealed -- you go on. Jobs -- at times once to -- with the -- zone to -- the fifties and forties and it's an idiot of little puzzle piece advertised in the back to me is a little more what you're talking about I'd like that is -- minutes you know he you are in Europe in 1972. You know in. About U store it on yet. That part is is really cool and I can't think of anything like that because the time frame is very specific in his book. On and he's going through time you know real time is now but started you know 44. I think I'm like there's a -- what time you can book yes absolutely that's. So let's see where we're going from that."
" Well -- I think we're gonna talk about the other idea. This opera house plays within the mythology and and it's has is because of the cult is like demons want. And next season and it it sometimes borders the lines are well this is."
" The thing that I didn't read that first because I had thought it was a horrible and I really like or books and just not a fan or books or movies or anything for whatever reason. -- it is more than that sometimes it's like a war books sometimes an action book and sometimes it's an ecological I was --"
" That's a quick note what do you would you say it I mean you can't at a -- classified business it's like there's X files and there there. There is the fifth most -- music as you read through these these trades there -- at least. In all introduces its story tells you when he got that idea from their -- like these obscure Norwegian answered yeah unlike. You know listening Celtic minerals hung Hungarian -- that you never heard of anything he got the music crazy amount of reserves."
" In -- in -- Kabila and I read this and you know so it's a longhorn and in note that I wanted to do something a lot of it. A lot of this is -- together from stuff that he wanted to do in other comics and couldn't get away with you know like this story -- here this was -- need more stories and -- but it -- every purpose that oh -- and if it's much better way."
" And that historical hook for just be a late a picture from little book or name or some might -- that he build upon. Which again. And what I really think is that when it came -- 93 I don't think it was a -- and I don't think so I think that's why didn't stick with me because after we kind of made a couple than me Copeland said we gotta check that. I rhetoric of this is much out of -- there's much you happen recently been written. Fox extras in the past months and comes as I've stated that I can put it there was a."
" Is that why Red -- of destruction one that's prepared to not like yeah we like you just gotta get through that one. I was I I came in that in the morning. To work and I would like her I got to be available -- by -- and I would show and -- look at. This -- this and the other thing is I fell in love with the -- well right I mean the art."
" Is. That is not on the whole it's amazing what linking on -- errors and he he he worked he -- work for DC area and it gets more from marble in the late eighties early ninety's Arab members like there's a series of animals that he did that covers all excellent. Arabs like. Who is this guy how to use it was so different than what was being what was -- vote at the time."
" Exit about the early nineties you had this and you have the holes in the island -- aren't candidates I -- how do."
" Aren't so that was another thing is that when he did how would like I never question -- because that's."
" Perfect exactly you're totally totally works and it's like it's great to see -- find is is his spotlight you know because you get that."
" Because he's doing a lot of the writing of plotting and he's doing all the art and so really become one of -- great labor of love and slipping it back -- the situation room you know."
" But what he does it do anything else anymore guys act on it but it's if he's and he's a master yes. Some of -- layouts in the pages and things like I'm reading this like this guy is as good as anybody is nobody better you know this is big fan of layouts like this but that. You very rarely -- along with just like you just earlier and it does look a little late but there's there's a bit in here. That III news search on everybody who. I'd I'd met its. It's basically -- not a god daily -- very easily yeah because this if it's a it's the perfect comic book page but now I'm good now we're gonna put us -- read it to you. Maybe it's okay. I'm uncle OK so. Eighty sapiens and -- boy have gone into this this serious castle and it's all kind of dark and there's nothing going on. And you see something happen over in the corner and that the penalty is leading you to what's going on and -- it's amazing he's doing a lot of this without dialogue without telling you shelling. That's something that. Is really its deal. Bomb that just kind of talking to each other and you sort of see held way look or decide what's going on it's it's like well they opened at -- Without a corner it's a little dark image still something. In an April quietly is that a monkey. And then all of a sudden he the -- at the action gets ratcheted up the zoom in to help boy's face he's got a god and then just the monkey shooting a gun. It's just. Like look at that -- to get those three panels they accomplish more and more eloquently. You know than than anything else. The most out of were easy and it's those kind of things it's stand out to me. The colors the shadows just that there's apparently."
" come to change yeah that's also almost almost -- its human cases of the story. As it is the story and you don't you you know what. You kind of don't mean did they take the dialogue away it's still -- facilities so that's that's that's the -- to -- that he do it dissolves. On this -- is like that. There's this little tiny story in the beginning these are both from hell boy the right hand do which is. -- Four okay. Are little more but there is a story about baby hell boy which is incredibly cute. And he finds out that you -- pancaked on the surface -- one base that he's I don't want to -- Kate because she's been told the coal. This whole life that thank -- so bad then an approach that's of the tournament palaces and -- Thank you so he made it forces might. And the demons very gravely like they all freeze out -- know what he's doing. If I guess it feel like force has been disturbed. Success of the grand -- of the internal and fertile region region say. -- Illinois about and very gravely this other demon man on. It is the boy. -- He would never come back to us now. But. This is truly our darkest hour at the shot up like them and deeply with a fork it. Is it that's the thing is that there's a hint of -- and that is the part that I didn't. Expects us. Because of the and I accept that I love the artist the thing that keeps coming back is that I have totally learn to love the character and so of -- and that to me is the best part of this series because we've got are always huge. Things going on these machinations. And demons and monsters talking ridiculously silly like. Even talk yet it's it's like -- taught you know what to write or speak and it's silly but there's -- the main character of the book -- and I love it. Turning all of that on its -- because he's saying. When it happened."
" And what's really interesting and it's almost like it's not an almost becomes a nature versus nurture play because his nature is it. On it then and he's fighting this what this thing but then nurture is being raised by the government agency you know found by the army that that's -- and and then being raises the study investigator he. He he's shunning what he's supposed to be to be this kind of no nonsense that just get it done because I still think that he's got a bit that the securities. It's a big guns because she hasn't done. He had that big on it and can't shoot rather it's that good but he's their big gun to get the thing to get the job not gonna he's the one who does so."
" But what about the what's great about him is is is universal's lot of people and a half of the -- yeah people -- the world's great character editor -- season. Being read due to human stone handed big gun he's just like. -- demons again yet."
" What happened like I don't look up going to be a giant monster there and out of his mouth is a sort of yeah. He and it again you know what and so so that the the and it's great to read that got a franchise has has really evolved since the book started. And we mentioned the BP RD which is the organization that works for and that that's and spun off as a different lot of books keep getting -- right that's in the -- for -- davis' effort which is really really. Itself. But you've got this idea of the universe. Absolutely but it's also evolved to the point of movies in Anthony's -- plate and I think they're really capture that and you will run from -- hopefully see nailed."
" Josh I'm liking -- first in this not exactly -- saw the movie theater because it comic -- against. And I like it. And another context for which is probably not good for the movie in general -- when I read the books and out like I need to watch movies and I think oh my god -- they really nailed. You know what I really enjoy the movie theater because I had read -- and I use that character and a new day. Hellblazer what I think the under rated movies when we talk about good adaptation yet it now where you know like. Who would think it has a perfect role for Ron -- In the end it like he is just sense of like. -- I guess. So on which doesn't sound like the greatest hero program movie -- book you don't think you want yeah that's that's here is the one that's definitely helps Hans -- so and if you it is if you go for the others I haven't -- haven't -- to be purity stuff I just started reading this lobster Johnson -- Johnson's great side character you should read about it. The thing that it's -- that colors in them all tended. The colors are really important of the book is about the black and gray and purple sort of tones in the background in the -- the big red blob in the middle. And then like option Johnson will be that too little orange dots. And the caption that. Well yes he -- color. Actually taxes. You."
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" Up speculating probably is it just it is right and so. And if you -- or. Yeah del Toro at the completely different gotten. To much. They're doing it again that the cast together and Enron from doing. So something that's. Yeah now. The second -- movie as well as the second in this new video games coming out. In November of 2007 public plan to people who come out it's been in development for awhile sensitivity and I don't know I think there was one before the PlayStation was and has it was a very good so we'll see those -- those who is very those games that are really count because but. Could be a great."
" So this is one comic where you can diving you can enjoy the comics is titles and would spin offs you know watch a movie that's great -- see animation go play video game this is a little less than you."
" Also almost read any random traded beef and is innocent of the -- is not only accessible it's not a Linear and jump around in time. Some industries are all short stories of them are just some of them are treated like stories with some -- actually -- To -- the middle are all sorts of."
" As long as there's the basic tenant -- who hopefully is what we care is an idea that you can -- some. On -- I was completely turned around and this is now want to hear Comex the other thing is reading it I'm just like. These -- of these are great comics these if you want to see what good comic books are people who were. Stepping into the shoes of of the masters you know like who learned from Kirby and apply that to modern things that's -- these comments are so I'll tell one world justice. So -- caught up now that you read like yeah -- say -- Annie and Heidi there's like six of you're outside davis' team. Is it that are here guy Davis and US citizen -- because these are pretty roms available you can say that the contact an iFanboy dot com you can also send other questions or comments or anything like that. If you feel like pocket more than right now you can call the voice -- at 88 fan boys which is 3262697. And share your thoughts with us."
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" Fear in my right hand the blue. Whom to call Japan. Hey welcome to life and wicked video podcast -- vote that -- that iFanboy dot com often cottage is Ron. I'm jobs and have a little bemused look at -- and it's all math we talk about hell boy. Yeah we may have seen the the first and only incidents costly ever -- Stop it it was a good evidence not on this is -- we first started and show you read some of."
" Yeah -- act I've read. Published -- relegated to the school district they tell us about that but at what at first -- early ninety's I expect that I didn't. Because my middle of the character of the crater of the character in the one books had done some art for the her accidentally -- Marmol that's us and goes back and today they were the marbles -- departed the right thing what followed him. Is it realistic okay and you."
" I guess I I think -- write -- longer than I thought I had an we Wii's First Lady Michelle -- none of us are really help when we got taken to task for that. And all Clinton never read it and I went back to win an election did read it and I think a part of a couple years."
" Well I had heard all about it a lot I was well aware of but I never read it because for some reason I just wasn't terribly interest it. Or so life. Follow. Arm and one vehicle. They really got within about a lot lately they've got goes up we already like and how it the other stuff we we didn't know we'd like. Some -- but. A bunch of people on the website and and through emails words at him that's true but people were like you need to read it it's fantastic and so. I read all of us do you you're like -- Orton. Went out I bought the first book and people said. It's not as good because in that might annually didn't wasn't she wasn't companies scripting abilities we hired John burned to come on put a lot of words on it again and he did -- really not even that I didn't. It was all right yet people gave me disclaimers like before you read it you know it gets better and I still really enjoyed it. Bomb. So busy -- we're gonna go through some of the stuff that bit about how boy that's good and and and you know we'll go from there. Hell boy. Is a character who is you -- it. Basically and part of the whole story is there's this large. Mystery of who he is Mary comes from when his purposes yet and that's basically what the whole book is you're getting their little bits of it sort of thrown out there that's -- yeah yeah ID. -- it's it's Wolverine I just realized that -- up. All. Always first appearance was in the San Diego comic con comics number two in 1993. She I don't know that issue is a valuable."
" Yeah that's what I'm sure it is after that it got full minutes ago. Into the legend and print are now remember it was Easter island statute that was what land. -- which -- the started of the traders didn't want you image had been legend but dark -- said this will give you an imprint it's John -- next man. Frank Miller that's what's -- city came you know homeless not out of them. I'm looking at Iran and -- Tenuous balance I tricked into transfers like yeah. I thought a."
" Well that things that you how boy is that there isn't a number 1234567. In and it's not on going book and it's sort of he's appeared at -- dark horse presents and special little bits and there are some stories that are reviews long. And there are some stories that are couple issues long even want it -- and now what they do is. They'll be a little miniseries and those will be numbered one through six you know on Natalie over now that whole series by the title. And the -- had they were made for trade before. Things always are trade that's very forward thinking that now yeah. -- so. The big thing about this is that there's that giant story going on the huge mythology and when you start the story you don't know who -- boy is. And -- way to know who held boy is and you slowly watching his world to pull back there's all these forces of evil and good and otherwise trying to convince them. You know and and basically -- be -- thing. Is he doesn't want to -- So these that was intent to be just yet. So in in 1944 during -- to not to have all everything you do this book part of what makes I think."
" Public interest thing is that it ties into a lot of real life kind of things and Hitler and so the Marlins were very into the cult when they were like also the Indiana Jones and it mythology ties in fact it. One of the lost. We're out Hitler didn't unless you know unlike what we see America Venus this government. Is very kind of scientific and realistic. That it's believed that Hitler believed and believe that things have powers that kind of plays off that idea."
" Well we're probably and it is a little bit but a lot of the series is based on. A combination of historical facts and and mythology while all types of mythology and and Manuel uses that as a backbone to lay his story and so it's not all you know it's not all completely original material a lot of it is based on different kinds of minutes from different cultures and times and things like that so what happens in the story is that he's. He's born in 1944 and you learn that and then he's a little kid and and you kind of skip forward. And you find out that ever since he was ten years old he's working -- BP RD which is the bureau paranormal research and defense needs. Bomb. And and they go around the world investigating. You know paranormal stuff and fighting bad guys and things like that and they don't really dwell on who he was what -- came -- like that. And then threw his adventures people start telling him. You know we run into monster in the -- news this into the I don't want to know I don't things are loosely tied to -- and they kind of ignore the fact that he's the big red dude but who grew up really fast. It but he is sort of start to get all this stuff. Revealed -- you go on. Jobs -- at times once to -- with the -- zone to -- the fifties and forties and it's an idiot of little puzzle piece advertised in the back to me is a little more what you're talking about I'd like that is -- minutes you know he you are in Europe in 1972. You know in. About U store it on yet. That part is is really cool and I can't think of anything like that because the time frame is very specific in his book. On and he's going through time you know real time is now but started you know 44. I think I'm like there's a -- what time you can book yes absolutely that's. So let's see where we're going from that."
" Well -- I think we're gonna talk about the other idea. This opera house plays within the mythology and and it's has is because of the cult is like demons want. And next season and it it sometimes borders the lines are well this is."
" The thing that I didn't read that first because I had thought it was a horrible and I really like or books and just not a fan or books or movies or anything for whatever reason. -- it is more than that sometimes it's like a war books sometimes an action book and sometimes it's an ecological I was --"
" That's a quick note what do you would you say it I mean you can't at a -- classified business it's like there's X files and there there. There is the fifth most -- music as you read through these these trades there -- at least. In all introduces its story tells you when he got that idea from their -- like these obscure Norwegian answered yeah unlike. You know listening Celtic minerals hung Hungarian -- that you never heard of anything he got the music crazy amount of reserves."
" In -- in -- Kabila and I read this and you know so it's a longhorn and in note that I wanted to do something a lot of it. A lot of this is -- together from stuff that he wanted to do in other comics and couldn't get away with you know like this story -- here this was -- need more stories and -- but it -- every purpose that oh -- and if it's much better way."
" And that historical hook for just be a late a picture from little book or name or some might -- that he build upon. Which again. And what I really think is that when it came -- 93 I don't think it was a -- and I don't think so I think that's why didn't stick with me because after we kind of made a couple than me Copeland said we gotta check that. I rhetoric of this is much out of -- there's much you happen recently been written. Fox extras in the past months and comes as I've stated that I can put it there was a."
" Is that why Red -- of destruction one that's prepared to not like yeah we like you just gotta get through that one. I was I I came in that in the morning. To work and I would like her I got to be available -- by -- and I would show and -- look at. This -- this and the other thing is I fell in love with the -- well right I mean the art."
" Is. That is not on the whole it's amazing what linking on -- errors and he he he worked he -- work for DC area and it gets more from marble in the late eighties early ninety's Arab members like there's a series of animals that he did that covers all excellent. Arabs like. Who is this guy how to use it was so different than what was being what was -- vote at the time."
" Exit about the early nineties you had this and you have the holes in the island -- aren't candidates I -- how do."
" Aren't so that was another thing is that when he did how would like I never question -- because that's."
" Perfect exactly you're totally totally works and it's like it's great to see -- find is is his spotlight you know because you get that."
" Because he's doing a lot of the writing of plotting and he's doing all the art and so really become one of -- great labor of love and slipping it back -- the situation room you know."
" But what he does it do anything else anymore guys act on it but it's if he's and he's a master yes. Some of -- layouts in the pages and things like I'm reading this like this guy is as good as anybody is nobody better you know this is big fan of layouts like this but that. You very rarely -- along with just like you just earlier and it does look a little late but there's there's a bit in here. That III news search on everybody who. I'd I'd met its. It's basically -- not a god daily -- very easily yeah because this if it's a it's the perfect comic book page but now I'm good now we're gonna put us -- read it to you. Maybe it's okay. I'm uncle OK so. Eighty sapiens and -- boy have gone into this this serious castle and it's all kind of dark and there's nothing going on. And you see something happen over in the corner and that the penalty is leading you to what's going on and -- it's amazing he's doing a lot of this without dialogue without telling you shelling. That's something that. Is really its deal. Bomb that just kind of talking to each other and you sort of see held way look or decide what's going on it's it's like well they opened at -- Without a corner it's a little dark image still something. In an April quietly is that a monkey. And then all of a sudden he the -- at the action gets ratcheted up the zoom in to help boy's face he's got a god and then just the monkey shooting a gun. It's just. Like look at that -- to get those three panels they accomplish more and more eloquently. You know than than anything else. The most out of were easy and it's those kind of things it's stand out to me. The colors the shadows just that there's apparently."
" come to change yeah that's also almost almost -- its human cases of the story. As it is the story and you don't you you know what. You kind of don't mean did they take the dialogue away it's still -- facilities so that's that's that's the -- to -- that he do it dissolves. On this -- is like that. There's this little tiny story in the beginning these are both from hell boy the right hand do which is. -- Four okay. Are little more but there is a story about baby hell boy which is incredibly cute. And he finds out that you -- pancaked on the surface -- one base that he's I don't want to -- Kate because she's been told the coal. This whole life that thank -- so bad then an approach that's of the tournament palaces and -- Thank you so he made it forces might. And the demons very gravely like they all freeze out -- know what he's doing. If I guess it feel like force has been disturbed. Success of the grand -- of the internal and fertile region region say. -- Illinois about and very gravely this other demon man on. It is the boy. -- He would never come back to us now. But. This is truly our darkest hour at the shot up like them and deeply with a fork it. Is it that's the thing is that there's a hint of -- and that is the part that I didn't. Expects us. Because of the and I accept that I love the artist the thing that keeps coming back is that I have totally learn to love the character and so of -- and that to me is the best part of this series because we've got are always huge. Things going on these machinations. And demons and monsters talking ridiculously silly like. Even talk yet it's it's like -- taught you know what to write or speak and it's silly but there's -- the main character of the book -- and I love it. Turning all of that on its -- because he's saying. When it happened."
" And what's really interesting and it's almost like it's not an almost becomes a nature versus nurture play because his nature is it. On it then and he's fighting this what this thing but then nurture is being raised by the government agency you know found by the army that that's -- and and then being raises the study investigator he. He he's shunning what he's supposed to be to be this kind of no nonsense that just get it done because I still think that he's got a bit that the securities. It's a big guns because she hasn't done. He had that big on it and can't shoot rather it's that good but he's their big gun to get the thing to get the job not gonna he's the one who does so."
" But what about the what's great about him is is is universal's lot of people and a half of the -- yeah people -- the world's great character editor -- season. Being read due to human stone handed big gun he's just like. -- demons again yet."
" What happened like I don't look up going to be a giant monster there and out of his mouth is a sort of yeah. He and it again you know what and so so that the the and it's great to read that got a franchise has has really evolved since the book started. And we mentioned the BP RD which is the organization that works for and that that's and spun off as a different lot of books keep getting -- right that's in the -- for -- davis' effort which is really really. Itself. But you've got this idea of the universe. Absolutely but it's also evolved to the point of movies in Anthony's -- plate and I think they're really capture that and you will run from -- hopefully see nailed."
" Josh I'm liking -- first in this not exactly -- saw the movie theater because it comic -- against. And I like it. And another context for which is probably not good for the movie in general -- when I read the books and out like I need to watch movies and I think oh my god -- they really nailed. You know what I really enjoy the movie theater because I had read -- and I use that character and a new day. Hellblazer what I think the under rated movies when we talk about good adaptation yet it now where you know like. Who would think it has a perfect role for Ron -- In the end it like he is just sense of like. -- I guess. So on which doesn't sound like the greatest hero program movie -- book you don't think you want yeah that's that's here is the one that's definitely helps Hans -- so and if you it is if you go for the others I haven't -- haven't -- to be purity stuff I just started reading this lobster Johnson -- Johnson's great side character you should read about it. The thing that it's -- that colors in them all tended. The colors are really important of the book is about the black and gray and purple sort of tones in the background in the -- the big red blob in the middle. And then like option Johnson will be that too little orange dots. And the caption that. Well yes he -- color. Actually taxes. You."
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" So this is one comic where you can diving you can enjoy the comics is titles and would spin offs you know watch a movie that's great -- see animation go play video game this is a little less than you."
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