Also, no one is making this argument.
Discovering Manga / Japanese Comics
Wednesday, September 24th, 2008 running time 24:12
iFanboy asked our audience what Manga books we should read and on this episode you hear our thoughts on Death Note, The Push Man and Battle Royale. Watch as the iFanboy guys struggle with the Japanese language and find that these comics are actually pretty good!
A few months ago, we asked you on iFanboy.com, what Manga books should we be reading. We got a tremendous response and went out and found and read your recommendations and come back to talk about it.
The Manga we read consisted of:Death Note
The Push Man and Other Stories
Crayon Shinchan
Battle Royale
Highlights
heart attack
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4:42, 4:42
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TV shows
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18:25, 18:26, 18:25, 18:26
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FEMA
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8:26, 8:26
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DC comics
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9:54, 9:57, 9:54, 9:57
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heart attack
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4:42, 4:42
)
TV shows
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18:25, 18:26, 18:25, 18:26
)
FEMA
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8:26, 8:26
)
DC comics
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9:54, 9:57, 9:54, 9:57
)
Automatically Generated Transcript(may not be 100% accurate) ( more )
" Wow. This upset about and was brought Cuba graphic audio square space and go to. Okay first of all we want to apologize just before we get started there's going to be a lot of things were going to say that are wrong. Mr. patient lot and -- for a few Asians we're gonna talk about Monica. Much about it you probably know more. That's what it's about. It's about learning it sorry and we're sorry it's not a pretty. Black -- with a -- discussion show Connor it would. Josh. And I Enron and a few months earlier this summer we posed the question -- the assembly to police said and initialed a -- what should we wait. We're doing that's wrong. Start back."
" So if you wanna talk more about mongo bucks you can but I -- what I probably -- about the show you discuss those books there are you can check and a weekly audio show. Annual revision three dot com slash I am going to be ready for about the show -- discuss all of the."
" And -- any question about -- recommendations you can call also when needed and bullets it's 1883 to 66 cents a minute or. So you're Japan that the email lets users send it to contact and white dot com. The first book up is there. Was going to happen. Definitely the most. A lot of people suggested suggested book on a threat to him for so I went into the comic store. And and after I. And then he's like. Yeah but the whole roll huh. Especially national park. A way to the Internet. And then it. Have a mountain looks is that -- an awful carruthers took a pap test or look at this probably explain what the deal is that the -- implement now in Japan much like eager. -- reading goes from right to left -- them back the covers -- And -- page backwards too busy as opposed to reading from the -- and go across and crossed over the upper right arm across across which for me my first monger was fragments from the little sort of accused. Oh yeah it was it was to -- it it is hard to that you actually were trained to go again we have mountain view yes -- were. I thought about what we should X which voted for but yes exactly that's fine because we're old. -- is -- more popular. Comics emerald nuts -- Huge Japan now -- and backward thing on its Japanese. It's kind of Japan that's -- that's the definition of that and and a lot of -- on their eighties and nineties that you Republicans here isn't that those were all kind of built out of -- which was you know typically you know -- speed line gases around sees the beginning -- These come with their own language -- just like we have it and it's funny because the -- it is likely style. To mean not necessarily come aunt Constance -- cost to -- but in this theater Japanese comics Minnesota most requested records. -- And -- by Takeshi -- It was pretty what does palace about it. Yeah yeah. It's like that accurately not what I would not an -- going into it monger and insular that I like is this accurate so what a lot of violence look at that seem to cover of that that looks like something that I expectant mom okay. However. Seems you're you're looking at dean. Yes okay the demon is a -- should be very -- that he's that debt he's got the death. But he's not really scary. We here's what happens the note is it's a book it's like Google notebook and if there's these rules about it there are death gods of that this guy is one of them. With the factory should. -- We told -- going to happen on my Japanese and of wolverines this it is it is not guides in Yahoo's or exceeded what I."
" The death -- you can read it -- in the name of that person. Who I am so their rules you have to be big. The face of the person you read the names you don't get mixed up. And if you don't write anything within sixty seconds of writing the name. That personal by a heart attack you can specify if you'd like to. He dies -- by Abbas and in its exports one afternoon you can do that you want to. End in each of the death demons have this and you find out that the reason they do this is appropriate light from the human that they take they -- that of their last. -- definitely it's their their. They're they're demons it that is different dimension not really yeah. Some of the Japanese bullets. So what happens is. On this falls into the hands. If they can if they did all these rules and as you go through it let me keep putting -- Rules -- it is funny. You final rules about it and it definitely falls into the hands of of light the kid's name and he isn't very good student. And he gets that thing is it's he touches -- he can see that the hang around in the whole time not really helping them not not helping him just like. What I guess yeah. This big -- weird -- all time but it looks like a big scary monster that's not what. More he's just hanging out bemused by humanity so like decides that he will. Start killing -- bad people that starts killing. -- for a committed heinous crimes killing and it's that'll it would die -- so they days -- somebody to help find the killer. Of all these bad guys and this that that person's name -- L. He's mysterious person you don't see this goes over anymore its past is the first volley and it -- the cat and mouse game where. Light is trying to mislead the guy who beat him clues and in L. Very very smart and -- is figure out what narrows down in the entire world. Where that person is you know who's doing this disease and certain district of Japan. Probably I school because after noon or 11 in you know. -- its. Energy don't want you learn more about the death and it's like it's weird because. I mean it's -- it's different morality really that would you'd be used to because he's he's. Like is a good guy he's been protagonist but he's -- people why haven't."
" A confession that actually bought read that because you've you've claimed it first Elizabeth out of some interest in that I bought and read it -- and it was I thought was very relatable a lot of ways it's really go about it this is about corrupting power equipment into power and -- says. I'm gonna killed if -- were people world I till tomorrow. And then it comes we'll track that's gonna kill people trying to let me it's gonna target. Cops and he has cut off they're wet eyes is that these are talking that the good intentions and -- it gets out of his control over the controls of the follow me up foods that's."
" What a lot of names like -- revealing more things about the care and it makes more testing his father is. And oh -- the investigation the Japanese police will you mentioned that that it looked -- FBI. Just a bit Vera I really -- that was really. Well it was a problem that it was Ottawa. A dozen Americans. Well it or I know that it felt more right -- that way ends well what -- things about this out up yours that you guys will find yours is that. Mom is very declarative in a way that all American comics used to be like it's a lot of people saying yes. Segment may -- what -- Not that reliable. Very normal. At you could put an American -- American characters but it's not really it really didn't interest thing. Plot I mean like that. FEMA it is is -- like that -- access to goods unique story. And and I liked the idea like this is eight bucks. It's worth it is -- that you can by the next by an excellent just gone it I can see why it eats. Format of comics to sell well because. It's like you know very of the -- by one after another these -- like but the cheaper. You know."
" And then it's important note that there are black and -- because socked him but it's not a feels that whereas -- comics and deviated to them -- production value right -- digital color -- they keep it and -- key principle that it's -- making more money exactly exactly FB. It's sport and this is published by -- witches and a imprint of -- media which remember where San Diego looks at -- years ago the big -- bags. He's in it's and now successful people ask comics really meant exactly so there's. That's. Cool I love how they're they're really push in the read this way like every now and then and occasional absolved -- lines you as you like it. Annan who is basic recommendation nicely and keep original series. Probably votes and low on. -- Hackett you. Overboard gamble for it might -- to take a quick -- and sponsors."
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" problem. -- Which is which came very highly recommended which is let's let's say. It now. Definitely accept. Its influence appointments I settled on was the -- and other stories. By you she wrote -- And this book actually collects -- issues that we did in sixty. For -- historical and yes it's this this quarterly and it has printed left to right. It. And possible -- is that -- this collection eight page stories that appeared -- magazines monuments. In its so it's not the traditional top pop or shall I just book. That's wrestlers I want to its origins of the line. -- This was collected by this was Clinton made only. Optic -- and it. -- But these are these are -- really really testing is done in the months you see the you see the beginnings of months and forty years ago. The guys speed lines that but it reads very much like Independent comics. The two kind of real things it away from that on the Japanese culture is that. It's it's I I don't know a lot of Japanese culture and it's. It's very different it's also. We years almost similar. Because almost every one of these worries -- about it isolation. Weird sex issues relationships like omelet just a little weird thing council discovers that the effort. This is asleep on the floor and neatly handled things. That. But that's and I've really enjoyed it it on its its with its its collection its -- is. Not related to title story with a push them. On the punishment was really it's not a guy who pushes people on the subway. Yeah -- my hand and how he. And yeah in the process in the process of pushing pushing -- people in. Animal to top off easy that's in the -- acted in the Andy and and he's late job heats up and trains all the men and in his it's as little moments a lot once acts. Yeah. I don't. Eight. An Asian woman go to Florida -- an interview with its. And to understand it appears and he was was it on publishing so. It is on the rental stores you can read the book that -- But -- selective the assortment. So is -- and see how it it was very realistic not Mary you know. You know demons that very realistic you can see light -- it because you see a direct correlation between this -- dark drug -- is is collecting their very eyes are things. These lines. This summer and it's enough for the understand history aspect of these. But we cheated that. This -- 95. -- This is eighty -- and I think it's. That. On but to me at the way it looked at s's that come -- compared to for Japanese house was. Cutler. Told -- The other book that it agreed which had to -- I had -- something right that was transient. By you she do you see. And we'll grab this one is that the students about the kid at -- parental advisory explicit content. These are collection of on three page stories about France and Chan who's a little kindergartners moguls with his -- In -- this mom and my best friends since parts in this and it's about how to go crazy -- little guy and a kick up and there's a lot of weird kind of societal trappings Mikey he finds it all he wants to keep it in the Iraqi targets that you crazy bitch away. Like and that at some point is obviously he goes he goes out today get a burger that burger joint and he's like in the follows like he's eating you know -- whereas these next Euro works or rats that is we want to. -- Of this ran in newspapers like that but I -- but it's it's -- and it's funny but at Amazon. I was reading it for half an hour and each one what he takes it after his mother and yes well why why you're abroad is aggressive only. It's just look at it -- and so now I enjoyed it is funny it's kind of humorous. Not to run again here. I'm going to read up exports so. -- Connor which we'll hear from."
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" All we lot just outside -- and going with Scott pilgrim. Precious little like point one. That you read that are. That's Canadian. Actually went with sputtered at its bottom of it. It admitted. Trust fund marvel. But it's looks -- Is the right size and hats and clarify. I actually went with. Look at. Battle royal volume one to Mary much. Company second most yeah. For credit the premise of this who wrote well -- is. Close shoot to come in without you in tech which."
" I've already put everybody can add up I. --"
" Time -- revolutions of the pop short of five took a prop up Bob. The purpose of this is that -- exports to another look at some militant left on the the president is in the future Japanese the Japanese future totalitarian society. What. The public satellite TV shows that most popular TV shows on the program. What they do it dictate what -- great classic an island and left it alive wins and look at what the temperature which the premise. Great premise great benefits that now what do think of my -- mongo you think a lot of stuff but I don't necessarily light like a lot of sexual hang ups -- sexual violence a lot of just weirdness that this had at all this actually go to Africa to read -- but act of justice. Well."
" This -- would be. And ambulances and so what you say is that all of the little kids 13 year olds who are read let me economies. Every submission. Well it almost upsurge typical month month to think of like all school girls of the."
" After shots like Salem. Like one girl she you know she's she's good -- when it's cold it's gonna for old men see it is very. You know detailed portrait portrait -- there's so horrific Negroponte very -- over two page spread. And ultra violence like just blood Everett one girl -- sawed off by another girl with it's a big night just. And anchors ninth graders. And it's it's. Great progress I like the idea of it by the end of it I feel like six rather read this I know that's the cultural did you read this before -- after death. I read this before or thereabouts I would make you like it more yes. It's just like this is the stereotype you've got what are -- Japanese central cultures is as well -- And it has been or it won't work which impressions ago a lot of questionable sexual page which is all of my book -- and that's she's announced the bulls that had just like awful this and oh c'mon get violence and then the business like. It was too much almost from me you know it's like. I saying yeah but the best physical violence you know it's horrific but it's it's just like. In this is over the top and -- just right -- you think do you think."
" The back here it's got to pull quote an apparently Wednesday railroads all the mega bases martial art repealed men panties about the yeah you're right what silly but those -- discussed -- In there was. I think that you take up the big detailed rape scenes and I might have been less a problem but it was like. This show continually of his desire and it was clearly against rate affects yet they've gotten that I don't know exactly but I also relate just like. This -- had chopped off this -- response. Gross who works for public just for a lot of people yeah sell more famous and -- You like -- the violence. Blood stuff on people who will mean not motivate you but I -- exits through news there I mean obliterate an economy that was was it. Germane to this or I mean it's not really like what happened was that the the kids got taken by the rent a bit of -- with its picture and a couple of kids. To me characters -- paper make it wanted to steel -- I'm -- orphanage. And to do is the government held its failure of your kid is on the program. And -- kids orphanage. He didn't caretaker government and missile that paper. Goods to protest the so. It was just awful and I mean it's a great great set up -- it's kind of annoyed that route toward development of the idea being secrecy. Brits found it -- it -- basketball star at night. -- when -- sort of it was. You know just like. And then assists missed too much too much it's humans there I literally thought that the rest and -- I had to read like a bunch of -- but rather like really nice but wouldn't -- Just checked yes and there are we there yet it's happened so long but definitely it's great love by."
" So a couple of months ago we asked you -- what I come to recommends among the books we take take a look at him read and then we have hundreds of -- responses and I'm Ron."
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" And those they would do know -- know them and we went after. Yet we couple months ago we just keep everything you've -- at any game."
" Wow. This upset about and was brought Cuba graphic audio square space and go to. Okay first of all we want to apologize just before we get started there's going to be a lot of things were going to say that are wrong. Mr. patient lot and -- for a few Asians we're gonna talk about Monica. Much about it you probably know more. That's what it's about. It's about learning it sorry and we're sorry it's not a pretty. Black -- with a -- discussion show Connor it would. Josh. And I Enron and a few months earlier this summer we posed the question -- the assembly to police said and initialed a -- what should we wait. We're doing that's wrong. Start back."
" So if you wanna talk more about mongo bucks you can but I -- what I probably -- about the show you discuss those books there are you can check and a weekly audio show. Annual revision three dot com slash I am going to be ready for about the show -- discuss all of the."
" And -- any question about -- recommendations you can call also when needed and bullets it's 1883 to 66 cents a minute or. So you're Japan that the email lets users send it to contact and white dot com. The first book up is there. Was going to happen. Definitely the most. A lot of people suggested suggested book on a threat to him for so I went into the comic store. And and after I. And then he's like. Yeah but the whole roll huh. Especially national park. A way to the Internet. And then it. Have a mountain looks is that -- an awful carruthers took a pap test or look at this probably explain what the deal is that the -- implement now in Japan much like eager. -- reading goes from right to left -- them back the covers -- And -- page backwards too busy as opposed to reading from the -- and go across and crossed over the upper right arm across across which for me my first monger was fragments from the little sort of accused. Oh yeah it was it was to -- it it is hard to that you actually were trained to go again we have mountain view yes -- were. I thought about what we should X which voted for but yes exactly that's fine because we're old. -- is -- more popular. Comics emerald nuts -- Huge Japan now -- and backward thing on its Japanese. It's kind of Japan that's -- that's the definition of that and and a lot of -- on their eighties and nineties that you Republicans here isn't that those were all kind of built out of -- which was you know typically you know -- speed line gases around sees the beginning -- These come with their own language -- just like we have it and it's funny because the -- it is likely style. To mean not necessarily come aunt Constance -- cost to -- but in this theater Japanese comics Minnesota most requested records. -- And -- by Takeshi -- It was pretty what does palace about it. Yeah yeah. It's like that accurately not what I would not an -- going into it monger and insular that I like is this accurate so what a lot of violence look at that seem to cover of that that looks like something that I expectant mom okay. However. Seems you're you're looking at dean. Yes okay the demon is a -- should be very -- that he's that debt he's got the death. But he's not really scary. We here's what happens the note is it's a book it's like Google notebook and if there's these rules about it there are death gods of that this guy is one of them. With the factory should. -- We told -- going to happen on my Japanese and of wolverines this it is it is not guides in Yahoo's or exceeded what I."
" The death -- you can read it -- in the name of that person. Who I am so their rules you have to be big. The face of the person you read the names you don't get mixed up. And if you don't write anything within sixty seconds of writing the name. That personal by a heart attack you can specify if you'd like to. He dies -- by Abbas and in its exports one afternoon you can do that you want to. End in each of the death demons have this and you find out that the reason they do this is appropriate light from the human that they take they -- that of their last. -- definitely it's their their. They're they're demons it that is different dimension not really yeah. Some of the Japanese bullets. So what happens is. On this falls into the hands. If they can if they did all these rules and as you go through it let me keep putting -- Rules -- it is funny. You final rules about it and it definitely falls into the hands of of light the kid's name and he isn't very good student. And he gets that thing is it's he touches -- he can see that the hang around in the whole time not really helping them not not helping him just like. What I guess yeah. This big -- weird -- all time but it looks like a big scary monster that's not what. More he's just hanging out bemused by humanity so like decides that he will. Start killing -- bad people that starts killing. -- for a committed heinous crimes killing and it's that'll it would die -- so they days -- somebody to help find the killer. Of all these bad guys and this that that person's name -- L. He's mysterious person you don't see this goes over anymore its past is the first volley and it -- the cat and mouse game where. Light is trying to mislead the guy who beat him clues and in L. Very very smart and -- is figure out what narrows down in the entire world. Where that person is you know who's doing this disease and certain district of Japan. Probably I school because after noon or 11 in you know. -- its. Energy don't want you learn more about the death and it's like it's weird because. I mean it's -- it's different morality really that would you'd be used to because he's he's. Like is a good guy he's been protagonist but he's -- people why haven't."
" A confession that actually bought read that because you've you've claimed it first Elizabeth out of some interest in that I bought and read it -- and it was I thought was very relatable a lot of ways it's really go about it this is about corrupting power equipment into power and -- says. I'm gonna killed if -- were people world I till tomorrow. And then it comes we'll track that's gonna kill people trying to let me it's gonna target. Cops and he has cut off they're wet eyes is that these are talking that the good intentions and -- it gets out of his control over the controls of the follow me up foods that's."
" What a lot of names like -- revealing more things about the care and it makes more testing his father is. And oh -- the investigation the Japanese police will you mentioned that that it looked -- FBI. Just a bit Vera I really -- that was really. Well it was a problem that it was Ottawa. A dozen Americans. Well it or I know that it felt more right -- that way ends well what -- things about this out up yours that you guys will find yours is that. Mom is very declarative in a way that all American comics used to be like it's a lot of people saying yes. Segment may -- what -- Not that reliable. Very normal. At you could put an American -- American characters but it's not really it really didn't interest thing. Plot I mean like that. FEMA it is is -- like that -- access to goods unique story. And and I liked the idea like this is eight bucks. It's worth it is -- that you can by the next by an excellent just gone it I can see why it eats. Format of comics to sell well because. It's like you know very of the -- by one after another these -- like but the cheaper. You know."
" And then it's important note that there are black and -- because socked him but it's not a feels that whereas -- comics and deviated to them -- production value right -- digital color -- they keep it and -- key principle that it's -- making more money exactly exactly FB. It's sport and this is published by -- witches and a imprint of -- media which remember where San Diego looks at -- years ago the big -- bags. He's in it's and now successful people ask comics really meant exactly so there's. That's. Cool I love how they're they're really push in the read this way like every now and then and occasional absolved -- lines you as you like it. Annan who is basic recommendation nicely and keep original series. Probably votes and low on. -- Hackett you. Overboard gamble for it might -- to take a quick -- and sponsors."
" Graphic audio is unique audio entertainment experience teaches the full cast of actors sound effects and cinematic music that creates a movie in your mind. They publish over 300 action adventure in science fiction titles including the recently released DC comics Superman never ending battle. And it got some great DC comics releases coming soon including the flash stop motion wonder woman with us and -- manner here -- quest. So head over to graphic audio dot net. We should use the coupon code I think ambush when you purchase should see these are -- three CDs and received 4% off your total purchase. So -- to -- nobody had a net where you can experience a movie in your mind."
" problem. -- Which is which came very highly recommended which is let's let's say. It now. Definitely accept. Its influence appointments I settled on was the -- and other stories. By you she wrote -- And this book actually collects -- issues that we did in sixty. For -- historical and yes it's this this quarterly and it has printed left to right. It. And possible -- is that -- this collection eight page stories that appeared -- magazines monuments. In its so it's not the traditional top pop or shall I just book. That's wrestlers I want to its origins of the line. -- This was collected by this was Clinton made only. Optic -- and it. -- But these are these are -- really really testing is done in the months you see the you see the beginnings of months and forty years ago. The guys speed lines that but it reads very much like Independent comics. The two kind of real things it away from that on the Japanese culture is that. It's it's I I don't know a lot of Japanese culture and it's. It's very different it's also. We years almost similar. Because almost every one of these worries -- about it isolation. Weird sex issues relationships like omelet just a little weird thing council discovers that the effort. This is asleep on the floor and neatly handled things. That. But that's and I've really enjoyed it it on its its with its its collection its -- is. Not related to title story with a push them. On the punishment was really it's not a guy who pushes people on the subway. Yeah -- my hand and how he. And yeah in the process in the process of pushing pushing -- people in. Animal to top off easy that's in the -- acted in the Andy and and he's late job heats up and trains all the men and in his it's as little moments a lot once acts. Yeah. I don't. Eight. An Asian woman go to Florida -- an interview with its. And to understand it appears and he was was it on publishing so. It is on the rental stores you can read the book that -- But -- selective the assortment. So is -- and see how it it was very realistic not Mary you know. You know demons that very realistic you can see light -- it because you see a direct correlation between this -- dark drug -- is is collecting their very eyes are things. These lines. This summer and it's enough for the understand history aspect of these. But we cheated that. This -- 95. -- This is eighty -- and I think it's. That. On but to me at the way it looked at s's that come -- compared to for Japanese house was. Cutler. Told -- The other book that it agreed which had to -- I had -- something right that was transient. By you she do you see. And we'll grab this one is that the students about the kid at -- parental advisory explicit content. These are collection of on three page stories about France and Chan who's a little kindergartners moguls with his -- In -- this mom and my best friends since parts in this and it's about how to go crazy -- little guy and a kick up and there's a lot of weird kind of societal trappings Mikey he finds it all he wants to keep it in the Iraqi targets that you crazy bitch away. Like and that at some point is obviously he goes he goes out today get a burger that burger joint and he's like in the follows like he's eating you know -- whereas these next Euro works or rats that is we want to. -- Of this ran in newspapers like that but I -- but it's it's -- and it's funny but at Amazon. I was reading it for half an hour and each one what he takes it after his mother and yes well why why you're abroad is aggressive only. It's just look at it -- and so now I enjoyed it is funny it's kind of humorous. Not to run again here. I'm going to read up exports so. -- Connor which we'll hear from."
" 9% up time. -- 47 support of free access to hosting connection the placements all of a 33 applications sort of you get the most from your hosting plan. And website you want to make an impact on line godaddy.com has what you need dot com names as low as one dollar 99 cents. World class hosting fast these web site dealers and much more. Looking to drive viewers to -- video content and get a dot TV domain name and stand up Democrat TV domains are perfect for podcasters. Video bloggers -- any moment something to say and there bill now it godaddy.com."
" All we lot just outside -- and going with Scott pilgrim. Precious little like point one. That you read that are. That's Canadian. Actually went with sputtered at its bottom of it. It admitted. Trust fund marvel. But it's looks -- Is the right size and hats and clarify. I actually went with. Look at. Battle royal volume one to Mary much. Company second most yeah. For credit the premise of this who wrote well -- is. Close shoot to come in without you in tech which."
" I've already put everybody can add up I. --"
" Time -- revolutions of the pop short of five took a prop up Bob. The purpose of this is that -- exports to another look at some militant left on the the president is in the future Japanese the Japanese future totalitarian society. What. The public satellite TV shows that most popular TV shows on the program. What they do it dictate what -- great classic an island and left it alive wins and look at what the temperature which the premise. Great premise great benefits that now what do think of my -- mongo you think a lot of stuff but I don't necessarily light like a lot of sexual hang ups -- sexual violence a lot of just weirdness that this had at all this actually go to Africa to read -- but act of justice. Well."
" This -- would be. And ambulances and so what you say is that all of the little kids 13 year olds who are read let me economies. Every submission. Well it almost upsurge typical month month to think of like all school girls of the."
" After shots like Salem. Like one girl she you know she's she's good -- when it's cold it's gonna for old men see it is very. You know detailed portrait portrait -- there's so horrific Negroponte very -- over two page spread. And ultra violence like just blood Everett one girl -- sawed off by another girl with it's a big night just. And anchors ninth graders. And it's it's. Great progress I like the idea of it by the end of it I feel like six rather read this I know that's the cultural did you read this before -- after death. I read this before or thereabouts I would make you like it more yes. It's just like this is the stereotype you've got what are -- Japanese central cultures is as well -- And it has been or it won't work which impressions ago a lot of questionable sexual page which is all of my book -- and that's she's announced the bulls that had just like awful this and oh c'mon get violence and then the business like. It was too much almost from me you know it's like. I saying yeah but the best physical violence you know it's horrific but it's it's just like. In this is over the top and -- just right -- you think do you think."
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JonathanD.Gordon
Started discussion: September 24, 2008 @ 1:48pm GMT
Episode 89 - Discovering Manga / Japanese Comics [Discussion]
You can watch or download the show here!
iFanboy asked our audience what Manga books we should read and on this episode you hear our thoughts on Death Note, The Push Man and Battle Royale. Watch as the iFanboy guys struggle with the Japanese language and find that these comics are actually pretty good!
A few months ago, we asked you on iFanboy.com, what Manga books should we be reading. We got a tremendous response and went out and found and read your recommendations and come back to talk about it.
The Manga we read consisted of:
Death Note
The Push Man and Other Stories
Crayon Shinchan
Battle Royale
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I am sorry, I had fo get it off my chest. Isn't the "Manga is bigger worldwide than american comics, so we should all read manga" arguement the same as the "Futball is bigger worldwide than football and baseball, so we should all watch soccer argument."
I have read lots of manga and watched a fair amount of soccer, both are less entertaining TO ME than Football, Baseball, Scalped, X-men, Legion, Proof.
And here comes the flood of comments on how I don't like these things cause I don't get them. There is nothing special going on guys its not rocket science.
ConorKilpatrick
about 1 year ago
In reply to JonathanD.Gordon:
I am sorry, I had fo get it off my chest. Isn't the "Manga is bigger worldwide than american comics, so we should all read manga" arguement ...
Also, no one is making this argument.
JonathanD.Gordon
about 1 year ago
In reply to ConorKilpatrick:
Do you not like trying new things?
Does liking one thing preclude liking - or even just trying - another?
I don't understand your point.
Also, I prefer watching soccer to every sport but baseball.
Does liking one thing preclude liking - or even just trying - another?
I don't understand your point.
Also, I prefer watching soccer to every sport but baseball.
I said in my comment that I have read lots of manga. So I have tried it. Manga is not all that good. The plots are paper thin the dialog is horrible.
Now maybe thats translation issues. Either way the product that I can pick up and read as it is delivered to me is substandard writing (in most cases) in this era where we are seeing some of the best written American comics. maybe its all the cnbc I've been watching, but take a flight to quality.lol
esophagus
about 1 year ago
In reply to JonathanD.Gordon:
I said in my comment that I have read lots of manga. So I have tried it. Manga is not all that good. The plots are paper thin the dialog is horrible.
Now maybe thats translation issues. Either way the product that I can pick up and read as it is delivered to me is substandard writing (in most cases) in this era where we are seeing some of the best written American comics. maybe its all the cnbc I've been watching, but take a flight to quality.lol
Now maybe thats translation issues. Either way the product that I can pick up and read as it is delivered to me is substandard writing (in most cases) in this era where we are seeing some of the best written American comics. maybe its all the cnbc I've been watching, but take a flight to quality.lol
You can't dismiss the quality of an entire media form without reading everything in that form of media. You're making very blanket statements.
If you don't want to read manga, fine. I don't see where anyone is trying to convince you otherwise.
ConorKilpatrick
about 1 year ago
In reply to JonathanD.Gordon:
I said in my comment that I have read lots of manga. So I have tried it. Manga is not all that good. The plots are paper thin the dialog is horrible.
Now maybe thats translation issues. Either way the product that I can pick up and read as it is delivered to me is substandard writing (in most cases) in this era where we are seeing some of the best written American comics. maybe its all the cnbc I've been watching, but take a flight to quality.lol
Now maybe thats translation issues. Either way the product that I can pick up and read as it is delivered to me is substandard writing (in most cases) in this era where we are seeing some of the best written American comics. maybe its all the cnbc I've been watching, but take a flight to quality.lol
Okay, that's great...
I don't understand your point, still. No one is trying to force you to read manga.
gobo
about 1 year ago
In reply to ConorKilpatrick:
Okay, that's great...
I don't understand your point, still. No one is trying to force you to read manga.
I don't understand your point, still. No one is trying to force you to read manga.
Actually I just shipped Love Hina and some goons to his house.
JonathanD.Gordon
about 1 year ago
In reply to esophagus:
You can't dismiss the quality of an entire media form without reading everything in that form of media. You're making very blanket statements.
If you don't want to read manga, fine. I don't see where anyone is trying to convince you otherwise.
If you don't want to read manga, fine. I don't see where anyone is trying to convince you otherwise.
Thats ridiculous. How many times on Ifanboy and on this message boards have we trashed the ninetys wholesale. There were two or three classics in american comics even through that bad time, but that doesn't mean the 90's in american comics didn't suck. Saying that you cant judge all of manga because you have only read the 20 books including those featured on the show that people have said are great is ridiculous. Thats a good sampling. and I said that this was how it is TO ME.
By the way we have all been in the comic shop and hear podcasts where MANGA is pushed on us and a lot of the time it is from the argument that is bigger than anything in american comics worldwide and that if you don't read it your not cultured. Furthermore if you read it and don't like it, its over your head. I am a mensa member and can read and understand anything. there is no there , there to most Manga. Not saying all, but the vast majority.
All I posted this for was to get a discussion going and hopefully get a better argument for it than millions of people read it and they can't all be wrong. Millions of people read the enquirer, does that mean its intriguing an plot filled?
esophagus
about 1 year ago
I don't get it. Who is telling you that you are wrong to not like manga? I have certainly never been told this.












Does liking one thing preclude liking - or even just trying - another?
I don't understand your point.
Also, I prefer watching soccer to every sport but baseball.