Kingdom Come
Saturday, February 2nd, 2008 running time 25:44
It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and this week Josh is that big man. Having initially dismissed Kingdom Come, he is now willing to admit his mistake and repent.
In 1996, DC Comics rocked the comic book reading world with Mark Waid and Alex Ross' four part epic - Kingdom Come, the tale of a not too distant future when the children of the current superheroes ran amok with nothing to keep them in check. Both Conor and Ron were amongst those thoroughly rocked. Not so much Josh. When he first read the Kingdom Come collection he claimed to be not so impressed. Recently, things changed. Having steeped himself in more DC Comics books than ever before Josh decided to take a crack at it and low and behold, he was rocked as well. That Josh, always 11 years behind the times.
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Highlights
Scott Shanle
(
15:34, 15:34
)
cultural center
(
5:07, 5:07
)
Keith James
(
5:12, 5:12
)
Hal Jordan
(
4:10, 4:10
)
Scott Shanle
(
15:34, 15:34
)
cultural center
(
5:07, 5:07
)
Keith James
(
5:12, 5:12
)
Hal Jordan
(
4:10, 4:10
)
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" And what people need more common -- the effects will we get some more for you that throughout Iran. If premier brand new show called Internet superstar and -- was none other than the grant about any -- to mark Nicholas no -- that's great. He was great god in Jabbar was talking about new graphic novel detective book to pop up is great luck. Being beautiful woman at that want to -- Blogspot dot com. Again needing more yes I've become hot rod because that was awesome so -- economics or in the equipment and invisible jets are you watch that birth episode Internet superstar its servers hold. You can three. I think you're super hero Martin thanks -- I think you're right."
" A minute and I think -- that means it was better than I -- said it was before this is you you didn't like it before I didn't. I I didn't appreciate sports much is the media should now it's very good to admit it. He -- very good thank you."
" Right record companies could show what we're dot com my name is Connor it. -- We. These two have been big fans of income since he came out I don't so now I read. Right after I got into comics. And it didn't really hit so recently I regret in this is the didn't really. Elect of weeks ago that this like an hour ago. All right the issue I think get a figure out how to many I was missing something in -- back -- much -- context -- this is neat. 1996 I would say masterpiece and of these universe from writer mark -- an artist Alex Ross. Which is probably a little bit of a misnomer really into who did what outwardly calm basically. Recently you've been seeing the multi based multi first croc back up and easy to do with 52 and all the stuff if you're rejects of society of America -- Johnson -- Wilson. There's teletype equipment directly through. Can come which is now multi first planet yes. And it's easy to -- people are doing dancing a lot more having had a little more context for what that's -- means really enjoy and exorcise that go back and read it. Can come again and I went through it and first pirate to literally -- response to my -- knowledge was very very limited so. He didn't really have a lot of contact form me and it's sort of a lot there. Which is fast and light came on a day six it was a four edge in aces and every issue came out on time may June July August may. -- It wouldn't be."
" I just sit up."
" We know who I like. Pictures come in the -- forget the."
" Our Suzanne yeah yeah. -- got so out. -- big fan of silver age well let's just say Mikey he's he does those poses very easy to what are also raced out DC hold up man. And Hal Jordan Barry out as a class. He he's on record over and over over saying it was still -- time. She's married as a kind of moderate stories. He wishes things were like they were when he liked comics or perhaps he's like time. This report crime right by the office I he had come off."
" And doing marvels. Here's the which -- sort of seven look at the forming of the of the marvel universe. -- yeah. It is. And obviously the journalists yeah and he wanted to do something similar curve for DEC -- which is really more of his ease more in DC and marvel as far as I'm educated decisions so. He comes up with a forty page outline of what can comments -- illustrations draws the whole thing out and pitches it then takes two gene Robinson. Of star man and of the script for the extraordinary."
" And he did he did it really really. Good ministers who cultural center of the goldmans write about -- says he basically."
" The way that I understand is that Keith James Robinson was the most. Alan Moore like that time he wanted to personally -- actually I actually understand that came back the return them moving outstanding. On the engine it was it was it was that these are primarily for DC didn't do this time and it. Ended up that mark when he and being person that he worked -- so the story. The concept the whole thing plot yet plot is primarily actually from -- thrust -- credit for that to. Men's."
" This is truly created -- cut top collaboration between the two -- is what he's not the discount mark when did mark where it is a great script and and I think -- we did."
" And I'll probably a lot of this attend a probable touches but yeah. Good story -- sell the idea is it is."
" Out okay so whereas. Marbles. Took place in the eyes of the journalists and remember his name you still Sheldon. Nice work I love having him around that concept this one take place primarily about the yet Norman -- Who is a these priests a picture. Well he's preached his preacher. School through Lolita like he's a clergyman. And he's visited by the Specter. And sector says that choice is coming up it's gonna have to be made and so it takes them around in DC you kind of -- like a Christmas -- closely."
" There were intended really -- are that's an excellent arms shipment happened world I think so -- in this case I don't candidates who are deemed it. I didn't think he -- out here who could I forget where you can now only purchases weapons domain names email. Why are you wanna. This device. This is -- you know -- there. Support and this is has -- statistics for -- in the future but not too distance future ten -- so surprisingly -- is."
" That's not post apocalyptic but everything has gone wrong in DC where. Here has gotten more powerful and their more of them their fighting more they got a lot of well it."
" Lazy hidden lake is the case -- there's always this divestitures that it's not you Marty for kids yeah. Which wasn't true I know. But it's it's all leave the goal here is -- now retired or gone away or. Appears to deal man and you think it's absolutely that it kids. You have to have. Become the new heroes that they don't actually fight crime or Seville that somebody took it as a board has. And it's been to commentary on the ninety's there because all the care all the costumes -- it's like do you think that guns and medal of."
" The key event so -- and we we get issues the Superman's in self imposed exile. And the key event that really sums up what the changes is that when the joker decides to move from -- from the metropolis and kills Lois lane. Superman and brings him to justice but Ben new hero name of god who is looks a lot like cable. -- little sparkly eyes that. Decides he's lethal force and kills the joker front of everybody and Superman was so. --"
" Let you know that that conduct that he was acquitted yeah -- public or behind -- public wanted to become which is now I'm thinking about it's gotta be sort of a metaphor for comics readers like you were okay with yeah."
" The real growth at a tip they -- okay with Superman everybody costs of boring -- bit stodgy Canadian. And everybody wanted big guns and straps and pouches and little feet and then this is Ross saying you know. Superman is still the man -- but as a result of -- joker Republican kind of cements us screwed this at least. He goes lives and holiday and."
" And basically who -- Kansas City,. Kansas and destroyed because a nuclear war some kids and kids are when that happens and later the so what happens is the kids' show. They can kind of out of control one room comes back to Superman's as we need you and that kind of do kind of the information up on the green lanterns that Clinton got a pavilion. A hundred -- it's important and it's -- knows how this plays in the DC universe is what -- book when he came out. And even though they folded into the whole multi versus and continuity now. You know sanctions. Well yes but also like green lantern is not how Jordan itself stuck. You know and like the flash you never know -- it's useless to be in the available that I thought it was Molly and Marion Jane Wallace well."
" Not mean if I was as well -- visitors must tighten your him -- slash -- spent a little men red Robin in the."
" Quit so it's it's it's all the because the great thing about DC's they've got the legacy they've got the icons -- a lot of people carry the mantle of the different things so. The flash could be -- jay Garrick kind of -- patent and that sort of thing. So they get together they said listen we're going to we're going to. You know kind of bring order back. Bring control room."
" Going to show them this is our heroes do things and it doesn't go as planned because nothing ever does there's an alternate side led by Lex -- and that's surprising that. Other parents like green arrow on black man in -- non powered guests with the human liberation front yeah. And they don't like me god coming back -- do things of that leads to a that a conflict between the they're Justice -- which ran in one room and always people that these kids and human liberation front of mail client that and there's an epic battle. And most people died mostly --"
" So we action figures doesn't really work you have to figure -- explaining captain -- cement but we're going to different. -- To register. So while we get this head over to www. Netflix com slash skateboard you get a two week free trial. And absolutely he's absolutely refuse to do that cause you don't yeah that's it you're ready yeah."
" And insightful thing about this is yet look at the context of happy times news or talking about you coming out of marvel universe where. -- he's -- to attack them he wasn't exactly onyx and this is comics are sort of like poking out from under an explosion of the of the market dining room."
" Is speculative boom yeah an edit in 9697. Is our own image kind of is hard to lose it seemed right and you know. SA Honda. DC it's time there were actually a lot of good books going on yet this is one gram Parsons GLA -- he's becoming. -- seeing Foreman and he's really okay superheroes the next level up. They're coming off -- deficit man about Britain is back everything they kind of just put the pieces of the you know respect the other but then. Agreement we're crazy intolerant immersion blender and bomb mark we've run on the flash of the say it was Wednesday."
" Konduz is for a guy like out Ross. It's probably not a good -- has yet in his front end PCs is old he sees how to Oregon and really. Just filed this. Various gotten the super got a long -- can -- air. Isn't that. Let them all without my hands and now and yeah. This -- what turned out out Ross who wants to justly and satellite have is a -- then analyzed the 25 man roster. Probably not happy so this is that I'm assuming one of impetus for showing everyone this is still lobsters are cool yeah -- and one of the."
" Things that I notice I'm reading through this is that. -- nothing that I have read from mark -- since. I felt has been this good. Mom just a facility like this seems to be. But he just put everything into the scripting in the plot and -- that mean this is there's a bit political overtones but it's not heavy handed instantly like."
" Yeah it is this is a super heroes are moderate statements. Next. -- and there are."
" Generations collections business this is the perfect book -- that this is just tells the grandiose ways. -- importance the long wait reactions and also. -- by using McKay what it doesn't think that's actually an estimate choice about what's happening whether he thinks it's that are not so he's always ambiguous choices. What is better this or this -- neither choice really that great you gotta do something. And and instant and I love that has sort of makes you think when you have to you're gonna you're modeling and gray area and have to figure out what you want to do then and that's what this does really well and."
" Itself it's -- it's that the subtleties of it involved in doing."
" Human aspect of it and doing doing with the icons and dealing with just the context is. This book is self global visually and with the words in the dialogue -- solemn glances and what -- one line throw is that -- carries a much needed."
" If you're aware of the DC universe then the same time."
" Why read this I was just getting into DC and are we were in college and get -- And I just started reading flashing -- I didn't know a lot of these characters and to me this like I read read this maybe that's six sometimes when it came out. Good every issue was just so we just so dense but it also so accessible. Yeah things that actually."
" Cool about it is that there are certain characters and we Sweden we talked about new frontier we talked and there's a certain characters are not not I don't know what to do with them. This book is a really good there's additional one woman as a character pledges which is a rarity immediately if you don't zero compensation she's not just it. I she's got a whole weird history of coming from the Amazon and and you can really have to make her. Yeah that you got to -- her carefully so that it makes sense and this is a really nice interpretation of."
" Her she's so hard warrior woman yeah on this she's a little."
" We're -- we're at war people going to diets of -- like -- god sort them grow and but you know the same time Superman's. Yes it's really comes across is this a lot we're kind. Hissy fit more or less and I don't want to you know I don't want to do it. And you know where's Bruce planet in tennis is that where Bruce Wayne this is to me almost the same as when it's dark character it's. I -- care it's almost like he's just had enough everything he gave up -- singularly focused. Anything of that -- those three characters are especially. Interesting this."
" What's great about this for a fact is is that besides -- kids that was really wrong. Yeah an electoral map you see see red -- is -- human liberation front -- they don't want the guts folks do anymore that understandable. Scott Shanle you know we get a final four we know what's best because we could get them that you see this. So there's there's not clear cut. And in the final battle so at that because there are deserves to twist captain marvel chills up. Edited and you -- For me this is this is the criticism Superman story about the Justice League it's about as stated that one moment but. Really it's about or what he means to the people of these universally means to me as a reader but he -- to -- abroad like the scene where he first comes back. After effects there's just give -- And you see there's you know it's fiction it's it's easy because allegory is you know what it is but it easy and it's just like if you work. If you look at this guy that's going to remove us who was was saving the world it would be it would take your -- of that's what that's -- that's for an. Things were."
" And yeah. Sure yeah privilege sir yeah me."
" I can order and in -- actually that concept champion -- it. That blues plus you eat regularly and in doing you're doing."
" One of the things about this I think of it. Really hit new little more now is it is since this is my first Alex -- mom and since then. I don't -- I feel like again this is his high point. It's -- I'm looking at these pages and a lot of times when you hear about frogs is that all these people look the same Smith uses the same few models used to and they're very stiff. And I had got that in my head is the -- since then that's certainly been true I think. It to some extent in this book. He's been that's not true this fluidity -- there is there is dynamic and they don't look like photos. The -- lay -- are very dynamic they're all over the tips on. Very cinematic. I've been really impressed by the -- in this -- I wasn't. It -- a lot about trust -- connect with."
" When it with marvels that it was great revolutionary committee ABC this is that this is a progress from -- has jumped. It is easily -- I would goes far to say that I can't find anything wrong with this."
" And that some might disagree and whatever but -- for me as a router."
" Is is a perfect self contained experience. Fantastic art. Fantastic story. You know so much stuff to get out of that black guy I'd really love and Hamlet it's really you know I could get a couple I'm sure you could."
" Com. I think that the brain -- Billy bass and was one thing that I had to think about a little bit adds. Whether that happened -- I know he's Kidman is also supposed to have the wisdom of Solomon did or or you know. So. The Clinton against -- against anybody you can basically Lex -- brain washes. At least that's what it is is hardly -- moral of this right now he looks familiar when he was drawn up probably. Boeing has -- captain marvel right once you switch well then at that point you know you've deserted brainwashed four. We need to even some smart they're Britain could have been ten years. That -- Washington group to look like tomorrow but it still going back account. I did like I loved the way that you drew village that's an area got. To model for million -- wasn't let's check the markets. -- right now -- exact battle tonight he's like grown up it boyish face and you know -- that person wherever. People only other little thing that bugs me is -- swing has this weird -- government yeah. And like -- is technology -- that he looks like he's using like prewar technology like the polio yeah. He actually races and those amounts of the break in the back end yeah it looks like is that this is that this is at -- continuity that -- little -- that -- that we could -- how to -- here. And I actually like the break the satellite and that I don't like the idea is. Deferred fragility of him as a human I just felt like actual design of it did. Yes that's that's and -- it."
" I think the thing is when this first came out there are very coy about what and this is the official future of these universities so there's a lot of things in here for that they -- and they sort of putting things and -- can come into the into the DC continuity to even. Muddy the -- more there was the kingdom yeah begins a series is now. The budget critics are also very narrow class rules on himself for awhile I think they were they wanted to go that direction now advance they can't put a bit to. Could -- both -- tag on the front and it's it's. It's too -- to personal."
" World tax. Now did it before the world just two hits and the thing that thing that I love the most about it though and again to talk about the slot with Douglas DC and so that's going on which -- society of America. Is -- legacy and the in the then that -- something that what I love about this is that with every page you're just -- characters and figure out. Cruelly our ballots cast -- who who is this guy -- collection tenant advocates -- there was the girl who had quite adequate to become -- him for yet. And and is that -- hours that's tedious red arrow and then you know and then -- Who was at the night wing and -- you are our fires are like he's really hurt you because you never they never actually says that in order of Canada yeah you have to figure you have to figure out some. And for me is somebody getting into it it was just awesome to to do that to see the legacy efficacy. The young flash in and they his daughter amendments in the."
" Great is -- thing about legends and there's like Robin that needs to -- uses your zero to the ground. You know people -- severe -- you don't get that separates they have to sustain them which is why I love these costs are so much because it gives a formality -- characters that makes him. Truly legendary."
" Then that. What you do without music that incorporated to what you do with -- in the ongoing things I don't know -- that is necessarily have a handout."
" I can't cannot love the idea of deep. Amber I have notebooks however must attend his -- sort of writing a final battle -- the -- you know. It was like do do do. Factions broke out at me because you'll be just let you -- next here. Make -- you know actually it was at this from the pages look -- of the accident happened got the memo book smart but I don't I don't like it -- virtually go for the final -- have to happen the end then and that -- more towards what's happening now -- and that's why when there's a lot about the so much negative I'm running back I can't I didn't."
" Yet this is it possible want to back. All of the right I'm not really -- but I do you think and one of the weaknesses for for me was it really beautiful to better book. If you happen knowledge of the -- Note the note -- I disagree and relentless efforts because I got when I -- so early when I got reading it I knew very little more than and his work and -- not that was what this this this book did more for me getting me into DC minimum. Right so I'm I'm I'm a freak like that like I've read a book and I want all the characters and social ferment that happened I honestly. It can be done enough interest and they will once we DC even those wacky definitely gives you an idea of the university history. What might do in the kind of flash forward. When you register is when -- later it's very funny."
" In the end what that was it forces came out and that the trade paperback yeah and it took her back -- a new epilogue yet which is amber. -- I that was -- unit -- become sort of knowledge just like in the the company left -- I'm sorry numerous home. They had this new look short backed up. One year later this story where what commencement of -- baby."
" And then. Bruce Lindsey -- quality isn't Superman one woman romance they're partners is kind of you can't and a lot of fan boys especially celebration was like why did that ever happened now is sort of the chance to."
" And that man is just forgot about it and it. It was a natural wrap up it was cute you know. There's actually little bits of fun to see in very handy top a lot of audio weekly show about house -- Batman are always written great some books it would have been getting a sort of gold threads you can poke fun at each other and an Independent sort sort of but it it from the loving way and that happens a lot because there's then you're -- ass hole. This happens a lot probably no Batman Superman clear that wanted to clear don't love each other but they they don't act like it over whose eclectic substance of the actual."
" And then it was nice this had to end on that note and then that's like almost like this -- kind of family so we'll see what inventing noted your Stanley. But it's amazingly. I like a lot more this time you know I'd obviously love and I'm -- happy to hear that you liked -- lawyers indicated yet. So did you like. Those people --"
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" And what people need more common -- the effects will we get some more for you that throughout Iran. If premier brand new show called Internet superstar and -- was none other than the grant about any -- to mark Nicholas no -- that's great. He was great god in Jabbar was talking about new graphic novel detective book to pop up is great luck. Being beautiful woman at that want to -- Blogspot dot com. Again needing more yes I've become hot rod because that was awesome so -- economics or in the equipment and invisible jets are you watch that birth episode Internet superstar its servers hold. You can three. I think you're super hero Martin thanks -- I think you're right."
" A minute and I think -- that means it was better than I -- said it was before this is you you didn't like it before I didn't. I I didn't appreciate sports much is the media should now it's very good to admit it. He -- very good thank you."
" Right record companies could show what we're dot com my name is Connor it. -- We. These two have been big fans of income since he came out I don't so now I read. Right after I got into comics. And it didn't really hit so recently I regret in this is the didn't really. Elect of weeks ago that this like an hour ago. All right the issue I think get a figure out how to many I was missing something in -- back -- much -- context -- this is neat. 1996 I would say masterpiece and of these universe from writer mark -- an artist Alex Ross. Which is probably a little bit of a misnomer really into who did what outwardly calm basically. Recently you've been seeing the multi based multi first croc back up and easy to do with 52 and all the stuff if you're rejects of society of America -- Johnson -- Wilson. There's teletype equipment directly through. Can come which is now multi first planet yes. And it's easy to -- people are doing dancing a lot more having had a little more context for what that's -- means really enjoy and exorcise that go back and read it. Can come again and I went through it and first pirate to literally -- response to my -- knowledge was very very limited so. He didn't really have a lot of contact form me and it's sort of a lot there. Which is fast and light came on a day six it was a four edge in aces and every issue came out on time may June July August may. -- It wouldn't be."
" I just sit up."
" We know who I like. Pictures come in the -- forget the."
" Our Suzanne yeah yeah. -- got so out. -- big fan of silver age well let's just say Mikey he's he does those poses very easy to what are also raced out DC hold up man. And Hal Jordan Barry out as a class. He he's on record over and over over saying it was still -- time. She's married as a kind of moderate stories. He wishes things were like they were when he liked comics or perhaps he's like time. This report crime right by the office I he had come off."
" And doing marvels. Here's the which -- sort of seven look at the forming of the of the marvel universe. -- yeah. It is. And obviously the journalists yeah and he wanted to do something similar curve for DEC -- which is really more of his ease more in DC and marvel as far as I'm educated decisions so. He comes up with a forty page outline of what can comments -- illustrations draws the whole thing out and pitches it then takes two gene Robinson. Of star man and of the script for the extraordinary."
" And he did he did it really really. Good ministers who cultural center of the goldmans write about -- says he basically."
" The way that I understand is that Keith James Robinson was the most. Alan Moore like that time he wanted to personally -- actually I actually understand that came back the return them moving outstanding. On the engine it was it was it was that these are primarily for DC didn't do this time and it. Ended up that mark when he and being person that he worked -- so the story. The concept the whole thing plot yet plot is primarily actually from -- thrust -- credit for that to. Men's."
" This is truly created -- cut top collaboration between the two -- is what he's not the discount mark when did mark where it is a great script and and I think -- we did."
" And I'll probably a lot of this attend a probable touches but yeah. Good story -- sell the idea is it is."
" Out okay so whereas. Marbles. Took place in the eyes of the journalists and remember his name you still Sheldon. Nice work I love having him around that concept this one take place primarily about the yet Norman -- Who is a these priests a picture. Well he's preached his preacher. School through Lolita like he's a clergyman. And he's visited by the Specter. And sector says that choice is coming up it's gonna have to be made and so it takes them around in DC you kind of -- like a Christmas -- closely."
" There were intended really -- are that's an excellent arms shipment happened world I think so -- in this case I don't candidates who are deemed it. I didn't think he -- out here who could I forget where you can now only purchases weapons domain names email. Why are you wanna. This device. This is -- you know -- there. Support and this is has -- statistics for -- in the future but not too distance future ten -- so surprisingly -- is."
" That's not post apocalyptic but everything has gone wrong in DC where. Here has gotten more powerful and their more of them their fighting more they got a lot of well it."
" Lazy hidden lake is the case -- there's always this divestitures that it's not you Marty for kids yeah. Which wasn't true I know. But it's it's all leave the goal here is -- now retired or gone away or. Appears to deal man and you think it's absolutely that it kids. You have to have. Become the new heroes that they don't actually fight crime or Seville that somebody took it as a board has. And it's been to commentary on the ninety's there because all the care all the costumes -- it's like do you think that guns and medal of."
" The key event so -- and we we get issues the Superman's in self imposed exile. And the key event that really sums up what the changes is that when the joker decides to move from -- from the metropolis and kills Lois lane. Superman and brings him to justice but Ben new hero name of god who is looks a lot like cable. -- little sparkly eyes that. Decides he's lethal force and kills the joker front of everybody and Superman was so. --"
" Let you know that that conduct that he was acquitted yeah -- public or behind -- public wanted to become which is now I'm thinking about it's gotta be sort of a metaphor for comics readers like you were okay with yeah."
" The real growth at a tip they -- okay with Superman everybody costs of boring -- bit stodgy Canadian. And everybody wanted big guns and straps and pouches and little feet and then this is Ross saying you know. Superman is still the man -- but as a result of -- joker Republican kind of cements us screwed this at least. He goes lives and holiday and."
" And basically who -- Kansas City,. Kansas and destroyed because a nuclear war some kids and kids are when that happens and later the so what happens is the kids' show. They can kind of out of control one room comes back to Superman's as we need you and that kind of do kind of the information up on the green lanterns that Clinton got a pavilion. A hundred -- it's important and it's -- knows how this plays in the DC universe is what -- book when he came out. And even though they folded into the whole multi versus and continuity now. You know sanctions. Well yes but also like green lantern is not how Jordan itself stuck. You know and like the flash you never know -- it's useless to be in the available that I thought it was Molly and Marion Jane Wallace well."
" Not mean if I was as well -- visitors must tighten your him -- slash -- spent a little men red Robin in the."
" Quit so it's it's it's all the because the great thing about DC's they've got the legacy they've got the icons -- a lot of people carry the mantle of the different things so. The flash could be -- jay Garrick kind of -- patent and that sort of thing. So they get together they said listen we're going to we're going to. You know kind of bring order back. Bring control room."
" Going to show them this is our heroes do things and it doesn't go as planned because nothing ever does there's an alternate side led by Lex -- and that's surprising that. Other parents like green arrow on black man in -- non powered guests with the human liberation front yeah. And they don't like me god coming back -- do things of that leads to a that a conflict between the they're Justice -- which ran in one room and always people that these kids and human liberation front of mail client that and there's an epic battle. And most people died mostly --"
" So we action figures doesn't really work you have to figure -- explaining captain -- cement but we're going to different. -- To register. So while we get this head over to www. Netflix com slash skateboard you get a two week free trial. And absolutely he's absolutely refuse to do that cause you don't yeah that's it you're ready yeah."
" And insightful thing about this is yet look at the context of happy times news or talking about you coming out of marvel universe where. -- he's -- to attack them he wasn't exactly onyx and this is comics are sort of like poking out from under an explosion of the of the market dining room."
" Is speculative boom yeah an edit in 9697. Is our own image kind of is hard to lose it seemed right and you know. SA Honda. DC it's time there were actually a lot of good books going on yet this is one gram Parsons GLA -- he's becoming. -- seeing Foreman and he's really okay superheroes the next level up. They're coming off -- deficit man about Britain is back everything they kind of just put the pieces of the you know respect the other but then. Agreement we're crazy intolerant immersion blender and bomb mark we've run on the flash of the say it was Wednesday."
" Konduz is for a guy like out Ross. It's probably not a good -- has yet in his front end PCs is old he sees how to Oregon and really. Just filed this. Various gotten the super got a long -- can -- air. Isn't that. Let them all without my hands and now and yeah. This -- what turned out out Ross who wants to justly and satellite have is a -- then analyzed the 25 man roster. Probably not happy so this is that I'm assuming one of impetus for showing everyone this is still lobsters are cool yeah -- and one of the."
" Things that I notice I'm reading through this is that. -- nothing that I have read from mark -- since. I felt has been this good. Mom just a facility like this seems to be. But he just put everything into the scripting in the plot and -- that mean this is there's a bit political overtones but it's not heavy handed instantly like."
" Yeah it is this is a super heroes are moderate statements. Next. -- and there are."
" Generations collections business this is the perfect book -- that this is just tells the grandiose ways. -- importance the long wait reactions and also. -- by using McKay what it doesn't think that's actually an estimate choice about what's happening whether he thinks it's that are not so he's always ambiguous choices. What is better this or this -- neither choice really that great you gotta do something. And and instant and I love that has sort of makes you think when you have to you're gonna you're modeling and gray area and have to figure out what you want to do then and that's what this does really well and."
" Itself it's -- it's that the subtleties of it involved in doing."
" Human aspect of it and doing doing with the icons and dealing with just the context is. This book is self global visually and with the words in the dialogue -- solemn glances and what -- one line throw is that -- carries a much needed."
" If you're aware of the DC universe then the same time."
" Why read this I was just getting into DC and are we were in college and get -- And I just started reading flashing -- I didn't know a lot of these characters and to me this like I read read this maybe that's six sometimes when it came out. Good every issue was just so we just so dense but it also so accessible. Yeah things that actually."
" Cool about it is that there are certain characters and we Sweden we talked about new frontier we talked and there's a certain characters are not not I don't know what to do with them. This book is a really good there's additional one woman as a character pledges which is a rarity immediately if you don't zero compensation she's not just it. I she's got a whole weird history of coming from the Amazon and and you can really have to make her. Yeah that you got to -- her carefully so that it makes sense and this is a really nice interpretation of."
" Her she's so hard warrior woman yeah on this she's a little."
" We're -- we're at war people going to diets of -- like -- god sort them grow and but you know the same time Superman's. Yes it's really comes across is this a lot we're kind. Hissy fit more or less and I don't want to you know I don't want to do it. And you know where's Bruce planet in tennis is that where Bruce Wayne this is to me almost the same as when it's dark character it's. I -- care it's almost like he's just had enough everything he gave up -- singularly focused. Anything of that -- those three characters are especially. Interesting this."
" What's great about this for a fact is is that besides -- kids that was really wrong. Yeah an electoral map you see see red -- is -- human liberation front -- they don't want the guts folks do anymore that understandable. Scott Shanle you know we get a final four we know what's best because we could get them that you see this. So there's there's not clear cut. And in the final battle so at that because there are deserves to twist captain marvel chills up. Edited and you -- For me this is this is the criticism Superman story about the Justice League it's about as stated that one moment but. Really it's about or what he means to the people of these universally means to me as a reader but he -- to -- abroad like the scene where he first comes back. After effects there's just give -- And you see there's you know it's fiction it's it's easy because allegory is you know what it is but it easy and it's just like if you work. If you look at this guy that's going to remove us who was was saving the world it would be it would take your -- of that's what that's -- that's for an. Things were."
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" I can order and in -- actually that concept champion -- it. That blues plus you eat regularly and in doing you're doing."
" One of the things about this I think of it. Really hit new little more now is it is since this is my first Alex -- mom and since then. I don't -- I feel like again this is his high point. It's -- I'm looking at these pages and a lot of times when you hear about frogs is that all these people look the same Smith uses the same few models used to and they're very stiff. And I had got that in my head is the -- since then that's certainly been true I think. It to some extent in this book. He's been that's not true this fluidity -- there is there is dynamic and they don't look like photos. The -- lay -- are very dynamic they're all over the tips on. Very cinematic. I've been really impressed by the -- in this -- I wasn't. It -- a lot about trust -- connect with."
" When it with marvels that it was great revolutionary committee ABC this is that this is a progress from -- has jumped. It is easily -- I would goes far to say that I can't find anything wrong with this."
" And that some might disagree and whatever but -- for me as a router."
" Is is a perfect self contained experience. Fantastic art. Fantastic story. You know so much stuff to get out of that black guy I'd really love and Hamlet it's really you know I could get a couple I'm sure you could."
" Com. I think that the brain -- Billy bass and was one thing that I had to think about a little bit adds. Whether that happened -- I know he's Kidman is also supposed to have the wisdom of Solomon did or or you know. So. The Clinton against -- against anybody you can basically Lex -- brain washes. At least that's what it is is hardly -- moral of this right now he looks familiar when he was drawn up probably. Boeing has -- captain marvel right once you switch well then at that point you know you've deserted brainwashed four. We need to even some smart they're Britain could have been ten years. That -- Washington group to look like tomorrow but it still going back account. I did like I loved the way that you drew village that's an area got. To model for million -- wasn't let's check the markets. -- right now -- exact battle tonight he's like grown up it boyish face and you know -- that person wherever. People only other little thing that bugs me is -- swing has this weird -- government yeah. And like -- is technology -- that he looks like he's using like prewar technology like the polio yeah. He actually races and those amounts of the break in the back end yeah it looks like is that this is that this is at -- continuity that -- little -- that -- that we could -- how to -- here. And I actually like the break the satellite and that I don't like the idea is. Deferred fragility of him as a human I just felt like actual design of it did. Yes that's that's and -- it."
" I think the thing is when this first came out there are very coy about what and this is the official future of these universities so there's a lot of things in here for that they -- and they sort of putting things and -- can come into the into the DC continuity to even. Muddy the -- more there was the kingdom yeah begins a series is now. The budget critics are also very narrow class rules on himself for awhile I think they were they wanted to go that direction now advance they can't put a bit to. Could -- both -- tag on the front and it's it's. It's too -- to personal."
" World tax. Now did it before the world just two hits and the thing that thing that I love the most about it though and again to talk about the slot with Douglas DC and so that's going on which -- society of America. Is -- legacy and the in the then that -- something that what I love about this is that with every page you're just -- characters and figure out. Cruelly our ballots cast -- who who is this guy -- collection tenant advocates -- there was the girl who had quite adequate to become -- him for yet. And and is that -- hours that's tedious red arrow and then you know and then -- Who was at the night wing and -- you are our fires are like he's really hurt you because you never they never actually says that in order of Canada yeah you have to figure you have to figure out some. And for me is somebody getting into it it was just awesome to to do that to see the legacy efficacy. The young flash in and they his daughter amendments in the."
" Great is -- thing about legends and there's like Robin that needs to -- uses your zero to the ground. You know people -- severe -- you don't get that separates they have to sustain them which is why I love these costs are so much because it gives a formality -- characters that makes him. Truly legendary."
" Then that. What you do without music that incorporated to what you do with -- in the ongoing things I don't know -- that is necessarily have a handout."
" I can't cannot love the idea of deep. Amber I have notebooks however must attend his -- sort of writing a final battle -- the -- you know. It was like do do do. Factions broke out at me because you'll be just let you -- next here. Make -- you know actually it was at this from the pages look -- of the accident happened got the memo book smart but I don't I don't like it -- virtually go for the final -- have to happen the end then and that -- more towards what's happening now -- and that's why when there's a lot about the so much negative I'm running back I can't I didn't."
" Yet this is it possible want to back. All of the right I'm not really -- but I do you think and one of the weaknesses for for me was it really beautiful to better book. If you happen knowledge of the -- Note the note -- I disagree and relentless efforts because I got when I -- so early when I got reading it I knew very little more than and his work and -- not that was what this this this book did more for me getting me into DC minimum. Right so I'm I'm I'm a freak like that like I've read a book and I want all the characters and social ferment that happened I honestly. It can be done enough interest and they will once we DC even those wacky definitely gives you an idea of the university history. What might do in the kind of flash forward. When you register is when -- later it's very funny."
" In the end what that was it forces came out and that the trade paperback yeah and it took her back -- a new epilogue yet which is amber. -- I that was -- unit -- become sort of knowledge just like in the the company left -- I'm sorry numerous home. They had this new look short backed up. One year later this story where what commencement of -- baby."
" And then. Bruce Lindsey -- quality isn't Superman one woman romance they're partners is kind of you can't and a lot of fan boys especially celebration was like why did that ever happened now is sort of the chance to."
" And that man is just forgot about it and it. It was a natural wrap up it was cute you know. There's actually little bits of fun to see in very handy top a lot of audio weekly show about house -- Batman are always written great some books it would have been getting a sort of gold threads you can poke fun at each other and an Independent sort sort of but it it from the loving way and that happens a lot because there's then you're -- ass hole. This happens a lot probably no Batman Superman clear that wanted to clear don't love each other but they they don't act like it over whose eclectic substance of the actual."
" And then it was nice this had to end on that note and then that's like almost like this -- kind of family so we'll see what inventing noted your Stanley. But it's amazingly. I like a lot more this time you know I'd obviously love and I'm -- happy to hear that you liked -- lawyers indicated yet. So did you like. Those people --"
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