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Sin City: A Look at Frank Miller's Masterpiece

Saturday, May 31st, 2008 – running time 22:09
Comic legend Frank Miller's greatest work, Sin City, was a noir tale told over several books in the 1990s, and lead to the movie adaptation which was released in 2005. iFanboy puts on our trenchcoats, and dive deep into the dark of the night of...Sin City!

Frank Miller, the comic writer and artist was best known for his work in the 1980s on Daredevil and Batman, but it wasn't until he moved to Dark Horse Comics with his noir tale of Sin City, that his career's work would be realized.

Spread out over 7 collected books, Sin City is black and white (and some color every now and then), talk of the underbelly of the darkest, dirtiest city, where the criminals are just trying to make a living, the cops are corrupt, the hookers rule the streets and there may just be only a few decent guys around.

The books of Sin City are:
The Hard Goodbye

A Dame to Kill For

The Big Fat Kill

That Yellow Bastard

Family Values

Booze, Broads and Bullets

Hell and Back

In 2005, the film adaptation of Sin City was released, directed by Robert Rodriguez and starring Bruce Willis, Clive Owen, Jessica Alba, Rosario Dawson and many others as the film was the translation of the comic book, looking very much like the pages of the art that Miller conceived. This process led to the next movie adaptation of Frank Miller's work, 300

Highlights
Frank Miller ( 0:58, 1:18, 1:22, 2:43, 5:11, 15:42, 15:56, 0:58, 1:18, 1:22, 2:43, 5:11, 15:42, 15:56 ) Dave Gibbons ( 2:55, 2:55 ) Netflix ( 0:04, 11:08, 0:04, 11:08 ) Frank Miller ( 0:58, 1:18, 1:22, 2:43, 5:11, 15:42, 15:56, 0:58, 1:18, 1:22, 2:43, 5:11, 15:42, 15:56 ) Dave Gibbons ( 2:55, 2:55 ) Netflix ( 0:04, 11:08, 0:04, 11:08 )

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" This up so much and was -- GoDaddy and Netflix. "

" Whose life and waited videopodcast combo special show I've tabloid dot com my name is Connor I'm here -- I'm Josh."

" Learn."

" And this week we we we we realized he -- this for little over a year that was the issue of realism we have really talked much detail about one probably our favorite ongoing series and kind of you know."

" Titles that are out there comics. While not -- know what I mean it's it's it's not just one thing it's a lot of things sin city."

" But Frank Miller yes we talked about a once briefly what very short rivers and then -- next spots. Now. -- so the fifth coup. So. So -- wasn't that since it is the book before we get dive into what's the city is he probably talk about its creator first a little. Honor Frank Miller are -- this."

" Just popped up if you accomplish because Frank Miller came to prominence in the eighties though working from both DC and marvel at the grounds of daredevil where he all of terrible bull's -- Elektra prevented their level yet. And then and then what he's probably most well known for is is working in DC."

" Doctor returns you -- And reinventing -- and -- this. Father. Modern -- the they grim and gritty street level realistic yeah. It's still. Twenty years on. And so -- in -- Frank -- what happened was that he after he did that for itself he left comets and went into the Hollywood then. Humans and roll up to that or not or like if you. And I for some reason that the didn't really work out and get back to -- And on in the in the early 1990s he says okay I'm done with DC marvel. Politics and that's thing. I'm doing everything too -- for oxygen at the time was a small Independent publisher on the streets of Portland Oregon right now that much bigger. But at the time they were just really doing kind of licensed properties that we're doing aliens predator stuff like that. The -- like Randall and yet. That was always there were pulling it and you know it. And what happened was that they had they they launched a line of crater. Properties with the likes of John river legend then legend was the -- a -- hell boy came out of this. And frank Miller's kind of kind of act addition to that was first 1980 did -- hard boiled with Egypt -- super -- just a star of the -- that's a burger on Dan and Dave Gibbons that give me liberty. And then in 1981. In the pages of dark horse presents which is kind of like there an apology which I miss the orchestra's. In but. Dark -- presents issues 51 through 62 features thirteen part story called sin city. Com which it was later than collected. In a book called the hardline wells club festival but in his book halted the Internet and and later on -- and end of that and and what sin city was was it was a black and -- the voir."

" Well this is a logical extension of his work his -- about it are always very new warrant she's very overwrought -- captions narrated the entire story from the inside of the -- That's in the ours -- characteristic this was just going full laden."

" Hard boy killed when Lockhart well but on the fifth but it is an -- it was hard boiled and field -- are crying. You know perhaps he gains and damaged -- on the whole story takes place and it isn't in this city called a sin city. And stuff -- to be today it is -- on and and in any in the first or -- steel -- and mars and whose -- one night. Sticking. I just love the switch blade sticking out of the shoulder there just just there was the toughest guy yeah. Its origin BC it's framed for murder and he stripper for murder your it was you stripper call -- Escort these -- and saying you know this at circle in those a woman of the night for food on and you get any healthy enough really fast servers felt. If he fell hard for her arms that tonight with -- he woke up she's. Dead and he's got some mental problems so he'd like woke up his -- Killer there and and -- and then he really any -- was no I didn't killer realizes that the conspiracy the -- Portuguese too powerful family that runs and city. And the shaky alliance between. The people who run sin city the people who ruled the streets and the streets are are the police are very ineffectual you've got thugs gangs -- You've got a a paid a blue -- uncle off hookers that -- really run a city but exactly. And so obvious -- And so all in this one story beginning genius of the world which really did become this universe that Frank Miller -- and then develop throughout the rest of the ninety's."

" Really I mean this is a very impressive amount of work she did over the course of eight years the dark horse. It was 988. Or 98. Eight which yeah it is stories that he did down. They -- there are most of the -- about issues that it collective form -- there was there's just a whole cavalcade of stories and a -- interactive tech of pop up again. There the chronology of animal that was."

" And and you can you can look at on Wikipedia's of that where they have the chronology but they they show that you know -- so bomb attack in samarra was the main character and -- to -- But then indeed kill four words used to delight. And at one point -- needs some help and so he goes and and meets Marvin Barnes is a -- you -- cocaine helps them so first -- small part of that Marta isn't it so a -- to kill for takes place before the target."

" I don't think so yeah but the last one immigrant and this -- when I was first cases where I start there. You can start anywhere -- absolutely -- She's done amazing there's not a continuity. You need to read this one before this -- And number like like the old bastard. Four. You can read any you could pick up. Any of these books off the shelves yet and read your cool you know I should read this on first and that's really important."

" What I've mentioned this in the next five show where we talked about part by about. This 11 real non DC marvel books that I really really Bob dove -- really enjoyed real my -- there's -- the whole world going on besides superheroes. Just because they've he he he knows this genre he loves this hard boiled. Sort of everybody's damaged everything -- secret everybody is troubled no one's really good yet even the good guys are bad site. Yet he knows this world you know sin city so well he knows the characters and it. The art is just had -- this is what you've played so much blacker light and then what -- could do was shadow and light."

" That was the real innovative thing was that is that it was black and white and then later on in the series he experimented with color -- only spot color like a story -- should. Know yet exactly and then at some of -- some of the -- shots he played the blues and reds stuff like that which you know which was really. At the time it was really kind of mind blowing to see what he did -- with it and just you and I remember he -- throughout the nineties he did. Pretty much a lot of the art he did was in the style I remember seeing gospel long drawn that he did get -- McFarland. In the sin city style and it was just amazing usually you're dependents of the books -- it rain like a character standing in the rain and let the raindrops are black but like between the raiders --"

" Negatives babies make this unit we talk about this book like the word that pops in my mind. Yes I mean because like the pages but there are black and white books. Mostly white does -- what -- This is using black. And white. Contrast each other specifically makes me think of the wait is that correct yes yeah arm and and the wrinkles and ask texture and feel it would've been quality that all the bricks and a sidewalk of all the a line of -- just has all the wrinkles and look at what's there he's not should use that much you feeling addressed the your eyes -- yet on that to serve versus its most. You -- Just. If not their what you're seeing it's. I've ever seen and what the good stories he would be revenue would be portraits of the revolution --"

" Yeah and it and and it's we're talking -- before the shows that if you if you watch his career sort of very kind of traditional -- us of the data that it was very traditional kind of you know clean you know and and Dark Knight returns really -- to step towards this hyper stylized kind of -- and sin city he just. Embraced it and moved it that much further select a proportions are off and like things of that but it seems to work and yeah."

" How this is what he really loves and it it's formed all of his works have sent. Yes nothing he's done since sin city is spin like she was before since everything has this changed all the work. The -- after expect that everyone had a problem with. BR was more like -- city just yet those stores are more was harmless harsher all the art he's done since has been a stocky he's he's locked in on this now Anglican."

" And it's and it's amazing to see how causes a lot of violence a lot of action. But like he can sum up the action on a -- on just a one page which would in any book would be a splash pages but for some reason this is just helping the narrative that the with the fact that he's writing and wrong the book."

" Works to his advantage and two to the uniqueness of the book. And I want to talk more about his writing but first we will see you here we're from our sponsors."

" It in all day. -- music -- recently they've policy in my -- it's. Probably because summer in the days here actually. -- All I had was to Cuba. Some -- can -- these -- job. -- Bruins."

" I continue to work cases. At Disney news. And that is that. They make it cheap in these. They're dark continent in exchange. To steal. If punitive because that came world you get 10% of the purchase. Quarterback -- you know kinda. Thank goodness there's discreetly for our customers. Taking their pictures in."

" Once I finish cooking is sad and licenses."

" They do everything. How's it just one day."

" It over 90000 titles choose. -- If you go to www. Netflix slash namely his two week free trial. It's a good deal. Almost. As she looked him. I'll put -- journalists from the world."

" What things because this is not. Is it. Mainstream music but yet you want it. And you know looking at that age for the first book art about art but it's like. Is it drops that means -- the rate dropped pulls out. Bridge -- what's great is that you know it's just not a religious one -- death matches and is that your you know. And he's just plain -- and a shot Marvin the range the news and it just looks right. How -- should. It's rock bullets got him girl right."

" and so it's as though the artist is amazing but I think also for me the big thing that it that it really propelled Frank -- forward was the right up and he of the embraced this in the war -- the right side and everything is with books today like criminal in and atheists or powers youthful mars at times for that but. Our -- are realistic way -- investors hyper and these -- this is the this is the fictionalized -- you know -- and even like to hear the back in the -- to -- four races you know like caller every -- name variation explaining sound like music like a chance to some -- god she -- let you know -- feels like a hard -- forties detective novel kind of you know and that. And it's that voice persists. Throughout the entire series -- every character each character's different and its own way in you know that -- NASA refused Harding and who's this who's cop who's trying to do it might be you the only really good person and all yes agreed yet and and they even in that EUU its deal with that. You know that the worst kind of daily -- on -- I'm just the guy in a city of love losers in this though you know I mean like -- you know like the narration is just it's poetic in a Norris and."

" I can't explain line is there but I right. Exactly and it takes there's like painting with shadow and stuff at that night. -- Yeah is like I don't know how this added that addition you know that the with the -- is still cigarettes or she will move around my desk and they you know like this well I. Exactly and it's an innocent software it's like when it's done really wins them poorly can be really bad yet but when it's done really well it's just like behind it out of pocket. Yeah it's you have to do you got to be all right -- people don't talk like this yet if it did you do that you're --"

" Ultimately it's a style it's it's it's it's a tried -- true American style yeah but the thing that was most shocking to -- not to do with the books we're talking before the show. This is like what my favorite all time series and it's a purpose a pervasive in my powerbook and world record in my head is always there hasn't been sensitive equipment and night. It's almost ten years hasn't seen them and that they shot to."

" Helen Mack was the ones when I read it it was tonight issues on it was time. Members looked at one or two to law went along for a long time I ID that's kind of my first exposed as it is yet you need to read this and I. I wish I had first. Right -- color."

" Today it he was he really kind of moved away from it in LA -- America and and it you know Mikey he got more experimental within that any accuracy enemy you tell us towards -- the run mean to -- my favorite is a big deal for and that's the one that I mean I love the hard to buy -- sort of -- But data kill for the -- the -- was that was the one that really said while this universe and -- often became that much you know that much more you know crazy."

" But that's that's it's shocking that you've done. This is like he always talked about it and this is his favorite work of this world you know let release of city. That -- 99 witches are hoping that the anniversary."

" Yeah you know be density and an insofar that is is. So dated 99 and then had -- later he went back to DC and it's are -- blah -- But what was really just that there there you may remember that movie was came a couple of years ago Robert -- is directed it and if you don't know I'm sure people for the sort of the sort. Is that Robert Regis love these -- has become a fan. Wanted to do movie and for years was trying to differently agree it. On the Frank Miller after I think it is central company's exposure was was -- the movie it. -- a Rodriguez just got Josh Hartnett and and practice and film one of the one shots. From from booze broads bullets. And just did it and that -- Frank Miller based on that. -- okay and they corrected which Clinton Rodriguez lead in the directors' guild of social front moves I've said before I think it's. It's I like the movie and -- people -- because it wasn't trying to -- accomplice to the movie it was a translation of the -- to the movie. And watching the movie felt like watching com and it felt that the they -- right. The effects are amazing needed at this spot color stuff and it was just. I mean -- had flaws with perfect so at that it would broke up the chronologically you can win that was respectful to the comment that well yet covered it is -- the movie covers the hard Dubai. Yellow bastard. And diamond and it did not a -- for."

" No public knows the other -- I was at the defect field particularly after the actors because the next morning lending to -- workers trying to. But so I moves are going to have the -- clusters that the other movies didn't have. The -- with a movie it was -- every other cock moving in that now people say. Well what can we just make it directly since it didn't drive and every advertiser message board somewhat like what can register which has elected to -- In love that he that front -- than what would 600 at 300 there you know which -- exactly."

" This class. I don't know. On. On you know yet but for book like this -- it works for this in I'll blow for me I felt that. Because they did just did the book it was like newspapers but the books and almost for me to make you really interesting. I want to -- slightly different interpretation sort of and -- world but it like. If an artist doing something wrong times looking at someone -- stories and a direct translation while kind of fun novelty. Because the books such experience yet I mean nothing."

" Well these books were in the the good -- that I saw the movie eyeful of sin city more so than three panels was a great gateway to the books because this is the kind of book that would somebody's at calorie Thomas was a check out. -- depending on the third this kind of stuff I give them -- in the heart -- argument ended up from a read this -- prime source of what that check this out. Because that's -- it definitely is a gateway into comics because it's not. Tapes and superhero -- my cats."

" Important to note if you haven't read these and -- you know like them. It's very violent there's a lot of nudity there's a lot of you know language of its its neutral varying results books if you're not in. That's company not yet capable of enjoyment and re is. It very violent well bastard. -- asked if his very violent it is very centralized so you know so like. Were real but -- part of -- relative of the -- world but still there it is there's a little credit exposed shop assistants that that's that nobody noticed there's will be. Action movies on -- I -- all news."

" And it was really is that when the movie came out -- Chris repackaged. All the collections. Into these kind of and decides which I love with a with a common cover treatment and and and -- from all the other Shelton and make a picture of the spine -- and I've actually got. All of this seven. Five of these just sticks and across and I like -- this is the target by need to replace its excellence went. But just repackaging use and you take this on the train and plain excellent that is really isn't Carrie and it's just it's. Grabbing its superb perfection in this -- it's just --"

" This there's no other books like that look like it's amazing the it's the royals played that I know -- they could corruption -- out -- plays of the park's wife that. He's not."

" It moves on the page and it in the Spirit isn't. Terms of selectors see the poster. Spirit I want I want I want to see more I would love to see more. But given the the last thing he did he didn't really like so you want him to go back to something that I lows in these -- this because it's not think -- back. Yeah it is theory is always looked up off a letter out. He wrote that -- around. That. Usually trust lessons and so on us. Now he's created. Net -- lacks credible that this will last and in this this could be -- to speak of hyperbole this could be one of the greatest works of the nineties."

" who lives and then as for me it's my favorite all time works if you. If I had to you know don't make a list I'd hate to make this -- didn't ambiguity we do once a year. -- that was those that the -- of your calls longer -- is a this is always going to be on my top customs officers."

" That sentiment. So obviously. Instead he's sitting in her car which is he lived in sin city and this is a great action figures formally posted mar. But Connor. Yeah geeky as you walk the streets of New York you can have music and a CD is an election people. But has since I bet ethical outlook at this age so so you roads and city -- did and you disagree with us sir what puts the other we've forgotten probably do if you -- I should you. A -- he gave also talked attack. He is also confident that I am."

" Went through our fingers conflict and I think America didn't think thought it was it was not it. -- 26. You want to see is four that are in three dot com slash I can't boy. You can also get to our knees there needs hard daily -- episodes. Are all sorts of things and their short fun and you should check."

" And finally had -- I think what dot com where you find all of our all of our audio video shows there as well as two great discussions those -- basis. So. Jesus Christ said the draft out of -- that -- It's like those record cover -- It won't affect typical."

" That's the right. I'm a woman."

" This up so much and was -- GoDaddy and Netflix. "

" Whose life and waited videopodcast combo special show I've tabloid dot com my name is Connor I'm here -- I'm Josh."

" Learn."

" And this week we we we we realized he -- this for little over a year that was the issue of realism we have really talked much detail about one probably our favorite ongoing series and kind of you know."

" Titles that are out there comics. While not -- know what I mean it's it's it's not just one thing it's a lot of things sin city."

" But Frank Miller yes we talked about a once briefly what very short rivers and then -- next spots. Now. -- so the fifth coup. So. So -- wasn't that since it is the book before we get dive into what's the city is he probably talk about its creator first a little. Honor Frank Miller are -- this."

" Just popped up if you accomplish because Frank Miller came to prominence in the eighties though working from both DC and marvel at the grounds of daredevil where he all of terrible bull's -- Elektra prevented their level yet. And then and then what he's probably most well known for is is working in DC."

" Doctor returns you -- And reinventing -- and -- this. Father. Modern -- the they grim and gritty street level realistic yeah. It's still. Twenty years on. And so -- in -- Frank -- what happened was that he after he did that for itself he left comets and went into the Hollywood then. Humans and roll up to that or not or like if you. And I for some reason that the didn't really work out and get back to -- And on in the in the early 1990s he says okay I'm done with DC marvel. Politics and that's thing. I'm doing everything too -- for oxygen at the time was a small Independent publisher on the streets of Portland Oregon right now that much bigger. But at the time they were just really doing kind of licensed properties that we're doing aliens predator stuff like that. The -- like Randall and yet. That was always there were pulling it and you know it. And what happened was that they had they they launched a line of crater. Properties with the likes of John river legend then legend was the -- a -- hell boy came out of this. And frank Miller's kind of kind of act addition to that was first 1980 did -- hard boiled with Egypt -- super -- just a star of the -- that's a burger on Dan and Dave Gibbons that give me liberty. And then in 1981. In the pages of dark horse presents which is kind of like there an apology which I miss the orchestra's. In but. Dark -- presents issues 51 through 62 features thirteen part story called sin city. Com which it was later than collected. In a book called the hardline wells club festival but in his book halted the Internet and and later on -- and end of that and and what sin city was was it was a black and -- the voir."

" Well this is a logical extension of his work his -- about it are always very new warrant she's very overwrought -- captions narrated the entire story from the inside of the -- That's in the ours -- characteristic this was just going full laden."

" Hard boy killed when Lockhart well but on the fifth but it is an -- it was hard boiled and field -- are crying. You know perhaps he gains and damaged -- on the whole story takes place and it isn't in this city called a sin city. And stuff -- to be today it is -- on and and in any in the first or -- steel -- and mars and whose -- one night. Sticking. I just love the switch blade sticking out of the shoulder there just just there was the toughest guy yeah. Its origin BC it's framed for murder and he stripper for murder your it was you stripper call -- Escort these -- and saying you know this at circle in those a woman of the night for food on and you get any healthy enough really fast servers felt. If he fell hard for her arms that tonight with -- he woke up she's. Dead and he's got some mental problems so he'd like woke up his -- Killer there and and -- and then he really any -- was no I didn't killer realizes that the conspiracy the -- Portuguese too powerful family that runs and city. And the shaky alliance between. The people who run sin city the people who ruled the streets and the streets are are the police are very ineffectual you've got thugs gangs -- You've got a a paid a blue -- uncle off hookers that -- really run a city but exactly. And so obvious -- And so all in this one story beginning genius of the world which really did become this universe that Frank Miller -- and then develop throughout the rest of the ninety's."

" Really I mean this is a very impressive amount of work she did over the course of eight years the dark horse. It was 988. Or 98. Eight which yeah it is stories that he did down. They -- there are most of the -- about issues that it collective form -- there was there's just a whole cavalcade of stories and a -- interactive tech of pop up again. There the chronology of animal that was."

" And and you can you can look at on Wikipedia's of that where they have the chronology but they they show that you know -- so bomb attack in samarra was the main character and -- to -- But then indeed kill four words used to delight. And at one point -- needs some help and so he goes and and meets Marvin Barnes is a -- you -- cocaine helps them so first -- small part of that Marta isn't it so a -- to kill for takes place before the target."

" I don't think so yeah but the last one immigrant and this -- when I was first cases where I start there. You can start anywhere -- absolutely -- She's done amazing there's not a continuity. You need to read this one before this -- And number like like the old bastard. Four. You can read any you could pick up. Any of these books off the shelves yet and read your cool you know I should read this on first and that's really important."

" What I've mentioned this in the next five show where we talked about part by about. This 11 real non DC marvel books that I really really Bob dove -- really enjoyed real my -- there's -- the whole world going on besides superheroes. Just because they've he he he knows this genre he loves this hard boiled. Sort of everybody's damaged everything -- secret everybody is troubled no one's really good yet even the good guys are bad site. Yet he knows this world you know sin city so well he knows the characters and it. The art is just had -- this is what you've played so much blacker light and then what -- could do was shadow and light."

" That was the real innovative thing was that is that it was black and white and then later on in the series he experimented with color -- only spot color like a story -- should. Know yet exactly and then at some of -- some of the -- shots he played the blues and reds stuff like that which you know which was really. At the time it was really kind of mind blowing to see what he did -- with it and just you and I remember he -- throughout the nineties he did. Pretty much a lot of the art he did was in the style I remember seeing gospel long drawn that he did get -- McFarland. In the sin city style and it was just amazing usually you're dependents of the books -- it rain like a character standing in the rain and let the raindrops are black but like between the raiders --"

" Negatives babies make this unit we talk about this book like the word that pops in my mind. Yes I mean because like the pages but there are black and white books. Mostly white does -- what -- This is using black. And white. Contrast each other specifically makes me think of the wait is that correct yes yeah arm and and the wrinkles and ask texture and feel it would've been quality that all the bricks and a sidewalk of all the a line of -- just has all the wrinkles and look at what's there he's not should use that much you feeling addressed the your eyes -- yet on that to serve versus its most. You -- Just. If not their what you're seeing it's. I've ever seen and what the good stories he would be revenue would be portraits of the revolution --"

" Yeah and it and and it's we're talking -- before the shows that if you if you watch his career sort of very kind of traditional -- us of the data that it was very traditional kind of you know clean you know and and Dark Knight returns really -- to step towards this hyper stylized kind of -- and sin city he just. Embraced it and moved it that much further select a proportions are off and like things of that but it seems to work and yeah."

" How this is what he really loves and it it's formed all of his works have sent. Yes nothing he's done since sin city is spin like she was before since everything has this changed all the work. The -- after expect that everyone had a problem with. BR was more like -- city just yet those stores are more was harmless harsher all the art he's done since has been a stocky he's he's locked in on this now Anglican."

" And it's and it's amazing to see how causes a lot of violence a lot of action. But like he can sum up the action on a -- on just a one page which would in any book would be a splash pages but for some reason this is just helping the narrative that the with the fact that he's writing and wrong the book."

" Works to his advantage and two to the uniqueness of the book. And I want to talk more about his writing but first we will see you here we're from our sponsors."

" It in all day. -- music -- recently they've policy in my -- it's. Probably because summer in the days here actually. -- All I had was to Cuba. Some -- can -- these -- job. -- Bruins."

" I continue to work cases. At Disney news. And that is that. They make it cheap in these. They're dark continent in exchange. To steal. If punitive because that came world you get 10% of the purchase. Quarterback -- you know kinda. Thank goodness there's discreetly for our customers. Taking their pictures in."

" Once I finish cooking is sad and licenses."

" They do everything. How's it just one day."

" It over 90000 titles choose. -- If you go to www. Netflix slash namely his two week free trial. It's a good deal. Almost. As she looked him. I'll put -- journalists from the world."

" What things because this is not. Is it. Mainstream music but yet you want it. And you know looking at that age for the first book art about art but it's like. Is it drops that means -- the rate dropped pulls out. Bridge -- what's great is that you know it's just not a religious one -- death matches and is that your you know. And he's just plain -- and a shot Marvin the range the news and it just looks right. How -- should. It's rock bullets got him girl right."

" and so it's as though the artist is amazing but I think also for me the big thing that it that it really propelled Frank -- forward was the right up and he of the embraced this in the war -- the right side and everything is with books today like criminal in and atheists or powers youthful mars at times for that but. Our -- are realistic way -- investors hyper and these -- this is the this is the fictionalized -- you know -- and even like to hear the back in the -- to -- four races you know like caller every -- name variation explaining sound like music like a chance to some -- god she -- let you know -- feels like a hard -- forties detective novel kind of you know and that. And it's that voice persists. Throughout the entire series -- every character each character's different and its own way in you know that -- NASA refused Harding and who's this who's cop who's trying to do it might be you the only really good person and all yes agreed yet and and they even in that EUU its deal with that. You know that the worst kind of daily -- on -- I'm just the guy in a city of love losers in this though you know I mean like -- you know like the narration is just it's poetic in a Norris and."

" I can't explain line is there but I right. Exactly and it takes there's like painting with shadow and stuff at that night. -- Yeah is like I don't know how this added that addition you know that the with the -- is still cigarettes or she will move around my desk and they you know like this well I. Exactly and it's an innocent software it's like when it's done really wins them poorly can be really bad yet but when it's done really well it's just like behind it out of pocket. Yeah it's you have to do you got to be all right -- people don't talk like this yet if it did you do that you're --"

" Ultimately it's a style it's it's it's it's a tried -- true American style yeah but the thing that was most shocking to -- not to do with the books we're talking before the show. This is like what my favorite all time series and it's a purpose a pervasive in my powerbook and world record in my head is always there hasn't been sensitive equipment and night. It's almost ten years hasn't seen them and that they shot to."

" Helen Mack was the ones when I read it it was tonight issues on it was time. Members looked at one or two to law went along for a long time I ID that's kind of my first exposed as it is yet you need to read this and I. I wish I had first. Right -- color."

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" who lives and then as for me it's my favorite all time works if you. If I had to you know don't make a list I'd hate to make this -- didn't ambiguity we do once a year. -- that was those that the -- of your calls longer -- is a this is always going to be on my top customs officers."

" That sentiment. So obviously. Instead he's sitting in her car which is he lived in sin city and this is a great action figures formally posted mar. But Connor. Yeah geeky as you walk the streets of New York you can have music and a CD is an election people. But has since I bet ethical outlook at this age so so you roads and city -- did and you disagree with us sir what puts the other we've forgotten probably do if you -- I should you. A -- he gave also talked attack. He is also confident that I am."

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