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Saturday, October 27th, 2007 – running time 31:10
What do you get when you take a bag full of comics and three guys with preconceived notions? You get the comics gauntlet and it gets thrown down as iFanboy challenges each other to try reading some comics they've previously dismissed or never even tried.

After years of reading comics, there are a ton of books that iFanboy loves and adores. But there's a deep dark secret list of the comics that they can't stand. The ones they just never want to read. The ones they won't even try. This week, iFanboy thought they'd challenge each other to try to read some comics that they've previously dismissed or didn't enjoy the first time around. Enter a big stack of books and a large tote bag.

Here's what got pulled out of the bag:

Strangers In Paradise

The Exterminators

Transmetropolitan

Kane

Stylish Vittles

Casanova

X-Men: First Class

Sandman

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Highlights
new book ( 19:37, 19:37 ) iFanboy ( 0:30, 29:38, 0:30, 29:38 ) X-Men ( 23:47, 23:52, 23:47, 23:52 ) Netflix ( 13:10, 13:16, 13:10, 13:16 ) new book ( 19:37, 19:37 ) iFanboy ( 0:30, 29:38, 0:30, 29:38 ) X-Men ( 23:47, 23:52, 23:47, 23:52 ) Netflix ( 13:10, 13:16, 13:10, 13:16 )

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" We begin until we talk about. Books but the -- back. Thanks yeah yeah -- bad boy did videopodcast for the problem with -- site iFanboy dot com. I am honored. This is jobs and this is sent. Run. Ahead in this week we're gonna cool off the cuff and I clearly remember. -- simple game for us -- it's. A lot of the keys again at home now and the security area at the."

" But a lot of times college fans -- indicated I really love the accident you really want."

" And that's I think we're also irritated -- books we don't like I will single handedly dismiss an entire account books for really no reason I'm -- just like the look. And that we often don't really excited. I think that -- the real fear and but so what we're gonna do this week we're trying to challenge some of our -- preconceived notions are prejudices. I got banned here. Full of a bunch of books that you've had each and he selects the council I selected. And each -- here represents accomplished that what that we thought one and the others would like."

" So what we're gonna do is we're gonna take turns -- a pig book from the bad if it's a book you put him -- to identify who you want to read it and you have to convince us to read it."

" Today if it's a book that you didn't put and won -- loss probably that in that we had to convince you read. -- a fun game. I did an awesome it's going to be so -- Michigan and out but -- I was going to close my eyes and he's gonna pick the first book."

" Well yeah. So why this is funny is how do you like strands of Paris. I don't actively dislike. -- how many did you read I read the first to treat we're -- which was 13."

" So tell us why you didn't really be honest the first and second that there I did not read beyond differences like. -- I didn't. Five that I connected with this story sectors. Oh wait you enough for me continue reading. It was it was it was -- we are the artist is is clearly communicate remorse that's great that's a problem. You just didn't I is coming about it than it -- in business and knows. In the noses. In lessons. And then -- anyway I just stating that you very. This idea for some reason whatever was I just didn't feel like there's I didn't -- very desires then you'll love the story do like state. Everyone says the second investment -- gets him in the preacher. You know if people with his second book really books and I with it after preacher like after the second book I -- I read. I thought. That's 61 so in Iowa and finished second and just play. And it was all right itself and it ought to."

" So lets you play your part again. Are there we convince you to read -- You terrify. You start -- First appearance. I expected unless you stop that the second -- because they get very suspenseful neighbors here is very quickly. -- that came out yesterday it. What. This third it was actually the volume actually caught up on board with us -- issues but the -- that the -- reflected. And there at the beginning of the perfect balance of this company continues to address the series. Of the light hearted kind of comic moments and the kind of serious drama that thrust of the sort. I think that if you read this -- Maybe go back -- that one that read this you will see you get the pressure there. And I think the momentum for the book released this 14 one after this well. And."

" Got about right -- remember where it changed over. But I I think that. When you look at the early issues. Me you can see differences and -- this is what you say this is the one this to me looks like the book looked at the end yet they you know he hit his stride as there were. You start to get to know these characters who will better and you see I don't remember where exactly he. Can -- like there's --"

" other side that's activists have oh you know could you -- that'll start yes. That's the -- outspoken about this start this starts touching on to the relationships as we the thrust of the story. Which was you know build rapidly and in the once you read. But once you it's it's like -- goodness soap opera or when you kind of you know fall in love with the actors. Then you'll want more and I think this is the one that will begin at the form of -- but by this one and the next you'll be useful this is the one -- yet -- it the old. Pentium mysterious mystery starts in this. And there's nudity."

" True or not I'll speak up speak your strengths and yeah -- We convincing her to I have to say yes or no or have company. Think that a preventive medicine and dozens of people onto an album and it said Josh. You're turned and shake up the book. -- books plagiarized pick one. US war machine but. I don't get a match then I -- this -- not overlook the that was awful -- with him."

" With the gift of -- chuck Austen. Not from Jon Husted now yeah everybody just made. Exterminators -- Insurgency did you put that it. I must have. Okay was the second volume. -- first so people added hooted and yet it was either you this is a book from vertigo and this is very much a now enables -- but -- should. Well it was -- right -- either you want to read there's no desire whatsoever are. Let's it is fuels our own because there's an art okay. I don't like bugs. That's a good reason bookstores. Well I'll -- Tuesday. But the reason that I really like this book I can monitor a little faster read trades MacBooks I don't hate I -- anything that I have a phobia of -- and in that way this is I'm not talked to operate. -- This book is really tactile it's creepy you read it and it creeps you out. And I really like or movies. But I I I like the fact that. This does something with the art in away. That doesn't get done a lot comics and sort of it's or is it literally about service. It's -- people who will not -- house work now it starts that way but what there it is there an underlying. Conspiracy. -- Is there and everything is nine -- with the Ryder Simon Oliver. I was not terribly -- with namely that the artist is -- more prevalent in our. I don't think so but he -- apparently. You want to try to convince you yes well I give me -- just another reason why I managed it and is mainly because whoever I -- I generally don't like Mario takes a lot to get into over it's very much of her. I will be -- of that in the way that you however like preachers. I look for which is very much effort. Now it we played to Brandon yeah exactly this what you do --"

" That's our best embassy if you haven't read them and I've read some I've read some uninstalling I haven't read any you read this -- love you all know how preacher. I had this. A collection of characters who are all completely different -- you've seen before I think the road altogether. And they have to go do something in this greater overarching story yet. People a lot like that so instead of god -- bugs. Well there are gods but I got there yet is there (%expletive). No doubt about it -- alcohol use. There's that if you're okay with it. There is that there's a literary prostitution ring. Never heard yes prostitutes who. That's that's of books know they take on characters in books -- all prominent people go and have sex with them and no one -- that the main character stuff stating earnings page. That books that's. She she's you'd like her that. This is a -- is great so this like. This like artists like the guy got out of prison now he's going to fight bugs and News Corp. it's it's a lot of fun book it's very Los Angeles. It takes place Los Angeles and it really captured the feel of that city -- character. -- like it's kind of -- creepy but -- who waited that night everyone goes. I was summarily dismissed that just because I'd really that I heard bugs vertigo. I didn't I didn't read it -- an opportunity we'll. By -- dig I didn't greetings. Like bugs either man but I like identity it."

" I've been on the Fed's disposal because -- books. --"

" The best thing ever."

" It spreads metropolitan. Blah -- you move up but are right."

" You want to retract that -- on and on that -- agents as well. -- but I know transit while many -- this is the book that kind of or else on the -- art. I've seen the art like their -- and art. As an artist I think I did he did it job. And a lot of people. Slightly it now whose sudden heard just how great this is. But. Or else. Sometimes good. Bucket and from what I've been able to glean from this. And might not good I don't mean like sometimes it's what I doing some things like ballot. -- authority and ends are much. Other things I didn't. I believe this -- but. What -- not enjoy. Now is what he did is accidentally. Imports and exports users that was not applicable and -- just an hour. Things there is something else that I didn't like that he wrote that oh planetary. And."

" This isn't close probably go. Back then didn't you like though I like that up. This that this is not that's what -- he sees the Hamas severely hunter's Thompson thing just makes -- just job. You know this is my -- that I think that's a hook in the beginning today characters -- under allows it deters hunter's Thompson ask journalist what. That's such a small way to describe it throwing seventy plus -- series of news."

" It takes place in and -- slightly distant future where. Technology has gone like you've taken all of the fears that you would have about technology now and you push them forward just enough again -- Philip K. Dick sort of way where there's ads that -- in your face and technique -- everything's. Been taken to that kind of -- you place. -- and the world is really should. And and spider Jerusalem is a journalist and his his thing gets to be he's sort of trying to fix it in his own way by doing his journalism. On and it's very over the top. See the thing is this is -- those books that no action but underneath that over the top as there is this just business strongly."

" Heart. Of caring about my -- for humanity and you'll end this is by far -- massive -- that it is his best work yet."

" anything is that I think this this Democrat that this represents so -- a lot of his personal beliefs yes yet but they're Robert. Yeah. That is -- that is a big reason to do it. That moment."

" not know what industry are always somebody yesterday pay garden intern. Went back. -- Said although he did. But -- I. Can see."

" I don't carry that would be but I can do things that are important intern for."

" I always carry easy that Netflix. There's from showed it. I'm going to go to netflix.com. You get two week free trial in its no late -- It -- delivery seized. The British media. The West -- there is this personal communications device I don't say it agreement that obviously is preferred communication and the active voice. Now Protestant prize packet access the Internet go to sites I go back and going to act out who aren't are -- And get 10% -- purchases. So that gives me -- me means you know all of that -- is that. --"

" Economy economy. It it."

" See them on the happens with them with me. -- McCain. Greetings from Sweden. You put this but this is that -- with. For Josh. You read this I have -- so I have shot -- True but just doesn't like it I didn't understand it and you didn't read beyond buying one. But to. And and it's this is by someone but we're gonna talk we're injuring 93 -- you -- want to again I relish -- up and I don't of McCain is it's by congress Tuesday British. -- crater he writes in -- that. It is -- not in British. It is up police base story came these brokers procedural police drama -- is a -- that's got a lot of a lot of baggage a lot of history. And he returns the forcing its new partner. And -- since that's happened kind to that percentage you love all of us yes it's asking you. Hate these issues I mean I hate Jesus but you love the book that's exactly -- with -- well because because it doesn't make sense because the visit is the factors that roll with infrared and other -- they had -- as the date of this is that this isn't like CSI though aren't like that it is not procedural because there's of certain. The art style is is -- And there's a certain amount of when you said doesn't excesses certain out of kind of would veto it where you know that this isn't real this is -- But if the."

" A realistic in the hearts it is it's not like -- flying cars."

" I know church of but the -- in a but the thing is like want to thank there's a character that's just a bunny that runs the entire story. You yet industries. Answer those that do it cost and it's two guys you know there's a cause blindness. But -- Anyway -- the reason why I think you should give this try again is that I don't think you were ready for when you read it. I think now now firing. Of several years later that like about it. I think several years later after powers after you know Gotham Central of the things like that he would have a new appreciation for the and you were ready for I want them because more which now."

" I think I remember the biggest IR you've got this for him him and I've been the biggest complaint. That. This story takes place in the present storyline in this flashback and there was never way to help you to. Characters looked similar you know from Paula I was really in punitive."

" But from what storytelling standpoint does have a really hard time following but now you're Mora evolved as discerning critique critic. Give another shot. I mean I have gotten here it's there I guess and and you really think that this very innocently terrorists. You me. -- Yeah you did it. Justice and Nelson had to. It. It's up."

" It's stylish travel."

" This is this is not Conner doesn't read this book why is -- stupid it."

" I do agree than that it did and I hate the word bill this yeah. Most elusive and -- you know I have no idea why it's called that but I don't remember that even worse. Nasty. Do you like -- books."

" And Oregon -- Either very few solutions we just didn't copy with title -- over because I have I've said that I have an interest in this of the matter I just think about that. Title as a just ignore the -- title."

" People benefit charitable toward -- and you'll get your book jacket has refused to answer. I picked this up at a comic convention in San Diego from the agony and I literally just solid work and I and it resonated that's going to be kind of -- like. It is. -- Well it's it is alleged to Billy -- kind of how violent book I don't know what started about a hundred. -- the final book in it like it's about got on the hit colleges and his life you its ideology itself means I and office Obama. You what was your favorite analyst. Right now no but -- very you go back to college college palace. Yes is that about falling in love college night that asked Arafat out of it. Nancy liked her I told you that this -- the -- title I don't problem them nowadays inducted into the for you. If."

" But this it because I know both amusing you don't want to read this this can play either. On Casanova is by Matt fraction robot with Alex this is hardcover edition. Though monthly comic book comes out its its -- felt that's the smaller cheaper. Same page that sort of thing. It's about age. A secret agent. And it's very. Kind of post modern world borrow did a lot from Marvel Comics in terms of shield and this this is our nation. And multiple multiple you know you're -- that's it. I -- the this missed this for the same reasons that you guys and I gave that shot. You know it was pretty good it was it was --"

" No I've read is one more polarizing people either love it I think people put a new book that's. La -- people can."

" If muted see here who's this one Debra bond art is really good. Okay and is this -- worry I felt like okay it was a similar to a snowball rolling down hill started as a case."

" I was with -- on here whenever. It gave momentum to support them."

" And and that that. I read the first issue this I thought of that -- shot. I was confused held for the first issue I was confused I was just annoyed. This bombed it spent a lot of time trying to be hip and cool and it felt like after watching at a pop singer from 1993. Be really cool and it is -- and it's a little map what Matt fraction does like everything he does because of that and some bad it is not for me. It's just like here's a big wacky concept EC that -- is that so I think that'll."

" Shadows the university's. Campus and the -- that -- past. Ones that -- He's systems also -- Who's. There tried to -- from. Relations. And you're right there's little kind of hit this actor and it has also written report -- that well at some points in search teams in the -- pops and explains kind of sums up. -- Permission issue. It's almost. One reason why I like it was. Jack Hermes. And he's. Eight. Thirty years. You're giving me that life. And anything completely on completely dismissing it for no other reason than being. But and the more the Earth's average finish but everything was everything you'd like if you read what I say aides is that if you give -- shot the whole book. Is that it -- stories that we use a data entry. That is worth you shop at my book had to turn the page. Once I got here the players -- an okay -- There are beginning we're joined now I just I took it from."

" Thought. It did I mean I it was better than I thought it. -- threat -- in Europe Europe. Not. Out."

" That's very. Who put this year the very first class that. This is meant for either do you although I think jobs would have a harder time beating it on -- written about it elected or an English yeah. Written by Jeff parker and the art was by I think that -- first name Roger cruise Paul Smith. If I remember about this giant -- moment this. Yes reports yet. I would hope that it and that and that's why didn't buy it issues but I about the heart and also was confused by the UPC users and a little element. That Bulger case ended children in the Adam with -- first which is products."

" Which yeah which would which had these characters but it was different was this thing contained story. What this is as you remember another book that are really the idea Buffy got the Christmas at one point was beat Canada until tells Letterman and it can imitate this is like in between stories of the early next. One and guns than straight up. Cyclops Jean -- iceman and beast Angel. Ask kids in a school environment learning these -- powers it's not. I don't want to adult and that it's -- it's not a -- and it's kind of you know it's a -- it's not that can't be nuts I can't be it's. It's retro. No no it's I mean it's contemporary. A -- it's you know but it's not like they were in the sixties -- whatever -- but it's also not like hey did you check this thing on the web. You know I mean it's just good classic X-Men story. And it's kind of it's kind of what made the X-Men is kind eight."

" It's kind of throwback to what was the charm -- satellite this team play. Missed these versus yours I would. Yet and the elected they're not comfortable -- powers that on the confidence of the swagger that they have now. Comparable each other that we know which of the very well is is cyclops that -- now -- I was I took it not for such a good chance of picking up the hardcover and I was pleasantly surprised some sent by the published next yet I would just. Terribly -- but not against. Well this I don't have any experience and want nothing as they made some of the road like the movie but that's I would assume he's I don't know the difference I'd ever had embezzlement that's perfectly. -- tough nut to crack your time but you're just the -- not yet here for. And it is a good one and what I did Alberto don't I thought that it's like that's all I have revenue game ends this and -- one. You lose and not turn it it was on the news. This will really work for either of equipment that. This is that -- this is the seminal classic Burgos had talked Madison Erickson that we were cut to sixteen number I."

" We know we know. You saw -- this because I am I I don't a lot of desire to read it's okay calm this a couple of reasons that. I think you group like. It's very literary it's based in Mitt. And Shakespeare and literature and and history and those are all sort of things you like and I think you would pick up on a lot of references even I don't know because you very well read. It's. I don't really find that it it. Conforms to that idea being sappy sad. Book. You know just for people who want to Los Angeles secured you find that be true. My I think that that's a misnomer based on when he came out crowd that sort of where the most. Vocal about it. If you listen to this show or you know that Ron has preconceived notions about the book and had an entirely dispelled. -- key art in this one. Com."

" Another story behind this and keep our so it's. Saying it just felt like he is like in the image in the image had a history book he talks about how he came off and -- like. That's great titles like -- not to write this book and he took himself off it."

" Well. You know at this is that ten volumes and every one. Of ours. To things I think it's. Like one some wooden. It's a big epic story. And from one. One long yet but there are short stories that comprise. It's not it's not exactly straight line it's it's it's going that direction."

" I think it's slowly I think it's slowed it looks you in the nose and funny so carry like this and you'll find there's a lot of characters a lot of things going on. I think imagination it is very good and I think that. You'll find bits of it. That speak to more than others but there's so many different things you can choose from that they'll be things like for the I really like -- character. -- every. Sounds. Online forum for and it's just like this guy and he when he died he used he. -- migrated to a -- like -- he's like the drinking assistance or I love kids keep digging. He's the -- assisted living at Ali's going to. Because that's being up by and this is all about dream and his six Brothers and sisters death destruction. -- Desire and wonderfully. It's I think it's pretty clever but the thing is it's become. It's almost become a parody of itself in time we you know like when you talk about it like it of course is -- leads -- all those things that the martian man. Yet it takes -- an ABC are in the easiest and it and it -- only to."

" Services. It is this is. Art's stock that I enjoy it's not going to be anything -- knots it doesn't stick to access to that first one. It's sort of all of that it has lots of different. I don't watch it on our audio podcast about making fun of it -- having -- Ratner so I've recently finished all headlines alternate -- violence and I think I'm just teasing them on a future show and actionable and future shows we're gonna come back after reading all these what we want to or not. Talk about that and we'll also discuss -- know about my thoughts let's and then he and after you've randomness the world on a level playing field you can just talk about. So to look -- that in the future so deserves to be continued. With a challenge has been laid. And a bunch of books they just take away from some might like them but not like Reagan was shot ever come back and talk about it see what's good what's -- Adams whether we can change your opinions. A lot of work a lot of work that's why we're here let me get paid the."

" I don't think that's a -- suits that was so. That is that's you're rapids loop on the game time -- be as good played my game yeah fantastic."

" where the tote -- So of identity recommendation the books that we didn't talk about that maybe we should throw on the OPEC for next time we do this will mean -- them. You dean also -- contact and I can't -- dot com or you can in his voice mail at 1888 and bullies when 883 Q 66 point seven."

" I can't imagine you have comments about this. You can go to www. iFanboy dot com. Will there be a post up for this show and and his discussions and things that go on there is also revision3.com slash I think we're independently to do Revision 3 forums which -- another place right -- inspections are going on."

" Hysterical with this yet. To Ron please. Are always you know we -- we -- at all if it and we have we don't know if -- future and what -- your viewing -- from those projects that and -- what. It's cool. Nice and the flag -- wearing yours. Cool is not -- lawyer entered. Him. And I'll -- you can't it's as -- on the it's you know we're elevated your. -- on the back did you actually of them and entered its its an -- certificate and or back to the red. He's an intelligent and can I do that murder pumpkin c'mon you know like -- is even the thing is that their characters and has -- like. Actually that. Different strokes the rule the world but to talk about -- We'll see you next."

" You're -- have no life."

" This model as well and you guys that I who is dominant competitive. If you're looking to leave the."

" We begin until we talk about. Books but the -- back. Thanks yeah yeah -- bad boy did videopodcast for the problem with -- site iFanboy dot com. I am honored. This is jobs and this is sent. Run. Ahead in this week we're gonna cool off the cuff and I clearly remember. -- simple game for us -- it's. A lot of the keys again at home now and the security area at the."

" But a lot of times college fans -- indicated I really love the accident you really want."

" And that's I think we're also irritated -- books we don't like I will single handedly dismiss an entire account books for really no reason I'm -- just like the look. And that we often don't really excited. I think that -- the real fear and but so what we're gonna do this week we're trying to challenge some of our -- preconceived notions are prejudices. I got banned here. Full of a bunch of books that you've had each and he selects the council I selected. And each -- here represents accomplished that what that we thought one and the others would like."

" So what we're gonna do is we're gonna take turns -- a pig book from the bad if it's a book you put him -- to identify who you want to read it and you have to convince us to read it."

" Today if it's a book that you didn't put and won -- loss probably that in that we had to convince you read. -- a fun game. I did an awesome it's going to be so -- Michigan and out but -- I was going to close my eyes and he's gonna pick the first book."

" Well yeah. So why this is funny is how do you like strands of Paris. I don't actively dislike. -- how many did you read I read the first to treat we're -- which was 13."

" So tell us why you didn't really be honest the first and second that there I did not read beyond differences like. -- I didn't. Five that I connected with this story sectors. Oh wait you enough for me continue reading. It was it was it was -- we are the artist is is clearly communicate remorse that's great that's a problem. You just didn't I is coming about it than it -- in business and knows. In the noses. In lessons. And then -- anyway I just stating that you very. This idea for some reason whatever was I just didn't feel like there's I didn't -- very desires then you'll love the story do like state. Everyone says the second investment -- gets him in the preacher. You know if people with his second book really books and I with it after preacher like after the second book I -- I read. I thought. That's 61 so in Iowa and finished second and just play. And it was all right itself and it ought to."

" So lets you play your part again. Are there we convince you to read -- You terrify. You start -- First appearance. I expected unless you stop that the second -- because they get very suspenseful neighbors here is very quickly. -- that came out yesterday it. What. This third it was actually the volume actually caught up on board with us -- issues but the -- that the -- reflected. And there at the beginning of the perfect balance of this company continues to address the series. Of the light hearted kind of comic moments and the kind of serious drama that thrust of the sort. I think that if you read this -- Maybe go back -- that one that read this you will see you get the pressure there. And I think the momentum for the book released this 14 one after this well. And."

" Got about right -- remember where it changed over. But I I think that. When you look at the early issues. Me you can see differences and -- this is what you say this is the one this to me looks like the book looked at the end yet they you know he hit his stride as there were. You start to get to know these characters who will better and you see I don't remember where exactly he. Can -- like there's --"

" other side that's activists have oh you know could you -- that'll start yes. That's the -- outspoken about this start this starts touching on to the relationships as we the thrust of the story. Which was you know build rapidly and in the once you read. But once you it's it's like -- goodness soap opera or when you kind of you know fall in love with the actors. Then you'll want more and I think this is the one that will begin at the form of -- but by this one and the next you'll be useful this is the one -- yet -- it the old. Pentium mysterious mystery starts in this. And there's nudity."

" True or not I'll speak up speak your strengths and yeah -- We convincing her to I have to say yes or no or have company. Think that a preventive medicine and dozens of people onto an album and it said Josh. You're turned and shake up the book. -- books plagiarized pick one. US war machine but. I don't get a match then I -- this -- not overlook the that was awful -- with him."

" With the gift of -- chuck Austen. Not from Jon Husted now yeah everybody just made. Exterminators -- Insurgency did you put that it. I must have. Okay was the second volume. -- first so people added hooted and yet it was either you this is a book from vertigo and this is very much a now enables -- but -- should. Well it was -- right -- either you want to read there's no desire whatsoever are. Let's it is fuels our own because there's an art okay. I don't like bugs. That's a good reason bookstores. Well I'll -- Tuesday. But the reason that I really like this book I can monitor a little faster read trades MacBooks I don't hate I -- anything that I have a phobia of -- and in that way this is I'm not talked to operate. -- This book is really tactile it's creepy you read it and it creeps you out. And I really like or movies. But I I I like the fact that. This does something with the art in away. That doesn't get done a lot comics and sort of it's or is it literally about service. It's -- people who will not -- house work now it starts that way but what there it is there an underlying. Conspiracy. -- Is there and everything is nine -- with the Ryder Simon Oliver. I was not terribly -- with namely that the artist is -- more prevalent in our. I don't think so but he -- apparently. You want to try to convince you yes well I give me -- just another reason why I managed it and is mainly because whoever I -- I generally don't like Mario takes a lot to get into over it's very much of her. I will be -- of that in the way that you however like preachers. I look for which is very much effort. Now it we played to Brandon yeah exactly this what you do --"

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" Services. It is this is. Art's stock that I enjoy it's not going to be anything -- knots it doesn't stick to access to that first one. It's sort of all of that it has lots of different. I don't watch it on our audio podcast about making fun of it -- having -- Ratner so I've recently finished all headlines alternate -- violence and I think I'm just teasing them on a future show and actionable and future shows we're gonna come back after reading all these what we want to or not. Talk about that and we'll also discuss -- know about my thoughts let's and then he and after you've randomness the world on a level playing field you can just talk about. So to look -- that in the future so deserves to be continued. With a challenge has been laid. And a bunch of books they just take away from some might like them but not like Reagan was shot ever come back and talk about it see what's good what's -- Adams whether we can change your opinions. A lot of work a lot of work that's why we're here let me get paid the."

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