" Pixel perfect is brought to you by. Virgin America. So again and welcome to yet another episode of the perfect beeper on the show where all kind of things can happen. And guess what we haven't used sponsor. Thoughtful piece of paper here and it's virgin America. Virgin America is all he's really cool new planes really nice and shiny and seats still comfortable. And that's serving as a motive KL AX Vegas in DC. And then voted with these nine inch touch screen and the payment. They have all kinds of stuff -- live TV 3000. And Kenji MP threes. Games catch TV and video content. Had USB plugs for your ports for your laptop all kinds of stuff. Virgin America and now flying hours guys and though hopefully you'll be playing on the and so. Now as we've we've started talking about light room. So this week my friends Frederick has come back so like you and welcome my. Good friend Andy senior. Product marketing manager. Got -- wrong."

" Are good -- Johnson from Adobe. It -- the end of you have them on one it's only hard senior product marketing manager for the Adobe digital imaging group. -- without -- card right yeah. It. Okay so let's start talking about light room again and does -- going to start showing us how it works I'm gonna show you in -- actually I'm gonna do it and I this is going to be your address. So well a local pilot here movement. Of doing this -- while you use the magic. Act in there. So you know a couple things so light -- is really."

" The application like resigned last week it's. -- Key wording is that the sort of box up from on the right side right and quick development you can -- your keywords you know -- for outdoor portrait and wedding photography but you can add your own keywords that's. Depending on the type of photography Newton but what we're gonna do today is getting a little bit and and frequent these images now this is an image this is a series of images this the couple weekends ago model. You to and you're gonna go and sort of makes them different versions of her. Different crops. And so indifference maybe. You know preset settings and apply those to her little black and white -- really punchy I'm you know -- will do all that one image it'll still fitted to a couple."

" With as little bit different kind of stuff and I'm sure that you were -- yeah working. Yes on for about multiple gigabytes -- multiple -- it -- everything cases Mac and days yes what's MacBook. And yeah yeah. OK so let's let's you can images -- picked numbers 53. That the very that is the that is as big giant numbers on tonight's double click click okay there she's got so bad image this is this --"

" If you look at the bottom here gives you this sort of file naming how ending the file and what the file type it is a camera raw files are selling an old -- What's still does pretty good that is holding up. And does double arrows pointing -- that they appear when you go over a particular picture that you creative also absolutely that's the rotate. So directly it now and says you can really quickly so -- image rotates through really quickly so when you're in. When you're and grid. In this mode you can -- him yet unlike that can bridge we have to go up to the top of patents. We're they're available read it yet and all that I think you see that we're gonna be playing with today are available via -- key and as well so when you get to know the applications are moving really fast and you'll find yourself going through all this one's horizontal should be vertically but it'll flip right there and just keep going through it. And so where we are right now we're in the library is sort of quick develop mode and this is designed to let you go to your images and just tweak him really quickly to sort of stepped through them and apply changes broadly. But we're gonna do in the context of in the interest of time today is sort of stepped into the development. And start developing this image. So who's gonna click on the development tab at the top there. So it image stays the same thing you'll notice in the user interface on the left side we saw a preview that I and we've got a number of preset that we can roll over and apply. Like we did last week general over these very you'll see that. Again previewed right into your right there it's it's calculating their math on the fly and just let you know basically what this thing -- hey Bert when you click this this is what you look like. So let's go ahead before we do this so this thing we you know we don't like you know priest and a January Monaro -- we're gonna it would."

" Going to tweak its image so usually what you want to start is on the right side there's an easier history Graham asserted let you know that this is indecent exposure it's a little bit clipped. And in dark from the left side there but we're gonna we're gonna he's -- white balance -- so we'll come down to versus temperature."

" And maybe competent political -- sort of overcast so we went through. Seen it happen there yet thanks to bring down a little pregnant it's really think that this that is good. And and and so basically just work you wait and recognizing that intent is could mean in the preview there would brightness slider of which where I'm going -- absolutely that's depressing to see in this application it's. It will probably work its way into a number of -- it via looking is that it logical of when you slide this way is gonna get more than color then -- yeah that color instead of having very hazardous I I didn't think about it. And a exposure yet. It's too late -- it it's great yep in all this happening covering each time you click and drag its calculating it's going back to the bucket of raw data that we talked about last week. And pulling that data in the re calculating with its -- should look like in displaying via feel like okay yeah. -- one photo and hair. I -- bring the blacks -- a little more times and I just don't keep them down on the bed yeah and a bright. In contrast yes and the good old guys which I think when it has been brightness down a little and that didn't want to contrast there -- gonna get some impact yet. And presence."

" president's one so this this dialogue box. The little sort of nebulous in terms of clarity you know vibrant exaggeration. But Cleary was clearly mean. If you drag it to the right basically is he adds that little special sort of -- You know it's a contrast application you know go too far. But really that's gonna -- image a loop. I think that. Every subtle yeah yeah it's very subtle and you know I found it's hard to explain what it is you know its marketing just try sites like Peter -- you get in there and -- images as a little special something's gonna. Add artifacts around the edges going to add that little special something -- yeah seasonings -- is like -- sharpening but not quite sure young every image can use a little colors."

" Buy prints from the area. What -- it. Well you know we've got saturation of atom for things it's doing a saturation. It's mentioned. As you saturation. That. These flight is -- print media. Via. -- requirement moment. And saturation there ago it's beautiful you Patricia I just I just made -- look."

" I think it yet. -- So what's happening down here okay don't -- so we'll look just that so that we can jump around in the application still maintained will go into those you know immediacy of the crop. You know. Going to the crop tool here which is done about a year ago so now gives us this rule of thirds. Sort of grid over image and we can drag quarters to crop. -- is there any corner of it's moving though things that interest you know and click the middle and drag him around -- and hear from them. And read things. About."

" And that's it has to return the idea that it so that we cannot really profit you didn't so you hidden away. What it's doing is what it means that you want them so if you go back and that crop -- again say its -- or a year from now. There it is your data you can run it and it's there and just keep -- it will retain all that. And if you look over in the history over on the left bottom there you can see everything you've done. -- you can expect any point in time. -- and his injury property. The vibrant sort of going beautiful yet and it will retain all the settings. For the life as long -- of the year in. There. And open -- and there's -- all the work that you don't. Okay sort of history that's like history. It was that this was that surround it sticks around. You know between opens and closes it stays with the image and you can go back and change your mind later you can spawn another version of this image from an it will retain this history then you can go in and you know keep changing it generating interest. You know have this whole library of different iteration of one image that don't really cost it connects things -- hierarchy of the you can us you can yet it was sort of you know sort of like you can't really. Go back in time to change things that you did and -- If you're either an -- to eliminate. -- No that you -- stepped back through it in and change things but you can't go back and delete and re -- the hierarchy of what. Maybe later -- that in the looking at this -- one last thing we're gonna do this quick is one thing a lot of wing and court photographers like to news opinion. So they'll go and so let's let's actually pick another image. There we go to pick from down here yet so let's just say go with that -- them into the net so now armed we can. We can -- a little bit but let's go to convenience those. Go down and will now. Move yet so little done yet it's kind of near the bottom lot of stuff on there. Humans there it is incorrect and so it's just drag -- is Lindsay getting dragged total up to sort of blurred the images. With this feature was originally designed for. Is not what it's being used for -- during this thing. They were going."

" Yes it was designed it to negate winds vignette all but a lot of photographers use it as creative tool to actually burn in the images. Our -- in the corners of images and the reason that they they prefer to do it in light room rather than say Photoshop where you have more control of Photoshop Norton's driver. As its non destructive as well everything light and as licorice and force nonstarter even Wednesday and yet. And not only is it is it -- destructive you can copy the settings and paste them to other images. So we'll go back to let's go back to the image that you made some changes to. So -- is you know you got your beautiful image there move back into grid mode. There is number 53 but also go to it in control copy. -- hit the and I'm done with your NT but bring up the contextual menu."

" That's come back over here and if there will be with the -- control here yeah so go down to develop settings. And copy settings at the top. So okay so now this copy settings dialog box tells you everything that you can tapping these are all the changes that you made. For example the far right there it even goes as far as to copy the crop. I'm happy to cropping information. Via -- corrections that you did countrymen white balance everything copied to the clipboard so let's just copy. So now let's go back and selected number of images that are similar to that -- say fifty or that are fifty. America Hemmer good to student could or shift from there. Now to the control. Elected him before. K developed settings. Votes and things. And take things so keep them open so you -- settings there so when this is gonna do is just hate those settings it's or brute force on the other images everything edited that -- one's -- exactly but the one down from -- is a little things now but -- one choice will allow you to accidentally those images that master image -- changes to that master mister ripple through to the other images they elected. It. And they -- think. The -- of being applied here for yet now they all have the settings that mean master and you see right off the bat compared to the rest of them images in the movie. Group here that they are better flesh tones and so on beautiful yet. Yeah absolutely so let's go back to this image here. And again we're not actually doing it to the image -- the room to store that data now with those particular images can't NASA yet -- NASA you can keep on just keep going and you know images that you pace of the settings blitzes. Applied system map. To those and you keep. -- You know make it do your bidding. So we'll go in and benefit ex wife is about."

" So this is this is selecting candidate this is sort of compared mode. What this mode lets you do is. You know say we want -- to you know we're going to our library and we wanted to sort stepped through quickly and make selections of web images that we keep which -- star. We when he's hot keys -- flat you know certain images. We can use this you and we can we can use any number of images on the scroll so we had this when Baxter. There. So now we've got we've got -- images here you control click another room. A quick and another on them they aren't so we can go there. And adding I think 212 you know. And there. To keep adding and then from -- you -- Flickr contacts like virtual context of the currency one with her smiling on the left is the best line. Acting like that by clicking flag there. Area that balance flag as it it. Right so I keep going in my library if we want -- with the issue -- sudden you know. Starbucks with my with my MacBook pro and it can go through and boom -- of them and excellent I want and then later. Go back and then we can do my adjustments and copy settings and and it happened with hello chairman ratings of them nothing else -- star -- a number of different things you start reading you've got flag you've got color. Chips that you depending on how you work you know some photographers of pioneering like meaning it's either vendors not you know something there's going in the select them so mile or so ago and some photographers at different levels of -- if you're stuck photographer you might say. You know this one's good enough for stock and but with three stars three starts up stuck five stars give -- from -- portfolio you know rules and you know depending how you word application. Is designed specifically to allow itself to use were. Mill into with -- how they work -- it doesn't -- you do any particular work. This is great that's got a lot of power built into it yeah there's less stuff in here you can go on and on in terms of you know we're talking about ferocious simplicity last week. It's ferociously simple but it's still deceptively simple as well as it. It gets out of your way and when you can download applications from Adobe that comes just like play witnessed thirty day trial. -- But it doesn't intimidate you when you first -- friends and get and it says okay imports and images and you'll see them can organize. But as you go on you start learning different things -- application can do and it's like oh well something else like at a time do oh web gallery -- you know. The print model which we can even go into the -- you know it actually. Makes it easy now to get prints application. And and these friends will be based on the dated did you set up in the changes. But the -- just okay and that means Erica yep so which is what photographers demand you know especially with. Over the last couple years the big buzz words and raw you know everything in with human humour largely. From -- perspective. It doesn't care it's. It. If you shoot raw because there's you know they they have more data in the file -- you make more adjustments to it like you're making before he knew more fine grains sliding. And more. Changes that you could apply as far as color balance and let's. If you shoot JPEG of course it's smaller files you know have that much but from a light room perspective. It doesn't care if it's the tip of the JPEG -- whatever it treats everything as. It's just the data that it's pulling from from that bucket of information that it's gonna pull from that data. If it's -- it's JPEG it's still gonna be non destructive over the whole work -- sixteen bit that doesn't doesn't matter it doesn't matter so in some some instances. You know the more that you open and -- got a JPEG you know you keep its destroying more and more more pixels. We'll light room each time you make an iteration that it's referring to -- original JPEG images so you know they may not be good pixels to begin to live. But it's not gonna change you know it's gonna keep referring to those if you give it raw data it has more work those work. Current and they can download this and play with a -- yeah they can download it and play with it from Adobe that comes less --"

" The -- doing -- screen. Of great. This is good is a good introduction to it and hopefully they're -- up that's gonna start Dallas right now -- claim that play -- in provided feedback we've lived here guys in you know tells what you like what you don't like him. You know you're changes in. Manitoba does this and I've noticed that for a while I didn't but now they've definitely listen which is good. Thanks for coming on the show you'll -- don't have to have hope you guys are something from this download and play -- to your heart's content that's the best way to learn things to sit there and play. See you next week."

" Pixel perfect is brought to you by. Virgin America. So again and welcome to yet another episode of the perfect beeper on the show where all kind of things can happen. And guess what we haven't used sponsor. Thoughtful piece of paper here and it's virgin America. Virgin America is all he's really cool new planes really nice and shiny and seats still comfortable. And that's serving as a motive KL AX Vegas in DC. And then voted with these nine inch touch screen and the payment. They have all kinds of stuff -- live TV 3000. And Kenji MP threes. Games catch TV and video content. Had USB plugs for your ports for your laptop all kinds of stuff. Virgin America and now flying hours guys and though hopefully you'll be playing on the and so. Now as we've we've started talking about light room. So this week my friends Frederick has come back so like you and welcome my. Good friend Andy senior. Product marketing manager. Got -- wrong."

" Are good -- Johnson from Adobe. It -- the end of you have them on one it's only hard senior product marketing manager for the Adobe digital imaging group. -- without -- card right yeah. It. Okay so let's start talking about light room again and does -- going to start showing us how it works I'm gonna show you in -- actually I'm gonna do it and I this is going to be your address. So well a local pilot here movement. Of doing this -- while you use the magic. Act in there. So you know a couple things so light -- is really."

" The application like resigned last week it's. -- Key wording is that the sort of box up from on the right side right and quick development you can -- your keywords you know -- for outdoor portrait and wedding photography but you can add your own keywords that's. Depending on the type of photography Newton but what we're gonna do today is getting a little bit and and frequent these images now this is an image this is a series of images this the couple weekends ago model. You to and you're gonna go and sort of makes them different versions of her. Different crops. And so indifference maybe. You know preset settings and apply those to her little black and white -- really punchy I'm you know -- will do all that one image it'll still fitted to a couple."

" With as little bit different kind of stuff and I'm sure that you were -- yeah working. Yes on for about multiple gigabytes -- multiple -- it -- everything cases Mac and days yes what's MacBook. And yeah yeah. OK so let's let's you can images -- picked numbers 53. That the very that is the that is as big giant numbers on tonight's double click click okay there she's got so bad image this is this --"

" If you look at the bottom here gives you this sort of file naming how ending the file and what the file type it is a camera raw files are selling an old -- What's still does pretty good that is holding up. And does double arrows pointing -- that they appear when you go over a particular picture that you creative also absolutely that's the rotate. So directly it now and says you can really quickly so -- image rotates through really quickly so when you're in. When you're and grid. In this mode you can -- him yet unlike that can bridge we have to go up to the top of patents. We're they're available read it yet and all that I think you see that we're gonna be playing with today are available via -- key and as well so when you get to know the applications are moving really fast and you'll find yourself going through all this one's horizontal should be vertically but it'll flip right there and just keep going through it. And so where we are right now we're in the library is sort of quick develop mode and this is designed to let you go to your images and just tweak him really quickly to sort of stepped through them and apply changes broadly. But we're gonna do in the context of in the interest of time today is sort of stepped into the development. And start developing this image. So who's gonna click on the development tab at the top there. So it image stays the same thing you'll notice in the user interface on the left side we saw a preview that I and we've got a number of preset that we can roll over and apply. Like we did last week general over these very you'll see that. Again previewed right into your right there it's it's calculating their math on the fly and just let you know basically what this thing -- hey Bert when you click this this is what you look like. So let's go ahead before we do this so this thing we you know we don't like you know priest and a January Monaro -- we're gonna it would."

" Going to tweak its image so usually what you want to start is on the right side there's an easier history Graham asserted let you know that this is indecent exposure it's a little bit clipped. And in dark from the left side there but we're gonna we're gonna he's -- white balance -- so we'll come down to versus temperature."

" And maybe competent political -- sort of overcast so we went through. Seen it happen there yet thanks to bring down a little pregnant it's really think that this that is good. And and and so basically just work you wait and recognizing that intent is could mean in the preview there would brightness slider of which where I'm going -- absolutely that's depressing to see in this application it's. It will probably work its way into a number of -- it via looking is that it logical of when you slide this way is gonna get more than color then -- yeah that color instead of having very hazardous I I didn't think about it. And a exposure yet. It's too late -- it it's great yep in all this happening covering each time you click and drag its calculating it's going back to the bucket of raw data that we talked about last week. And pulling that data in the re calculating with its -- should look like in displaying via feel like okay yeah. -- one photo and hair. I -- bring the blacks -- a little more times and I just don't keep them down on the bed yeah and a bright. In contrast yes and the good old guys which I think when it has been brightness down a little and that didn't want to contrast there -- gonna get some impact yet. And presence."

" president's one so this this dialogue box. The little sort of nebulous in terms of clarity you know vibrant exaggeration. But Cleary was clearly mean. If you drag it to the right basically is he adds that little special sort of -- You know it's a contrast application you know go too far. But really that's gonna -- image a loop. I think that. Every subtle yeah yeah it's very subtle and you know I found it's hard to explain what it is you know its marketing just try sites like Peter -- you get in there and -- images as a little special something's gonna. Add artifacts around the edges going to add that little special something -- yeah seasonings -- is like -- sharpening but not quite sure young every image can use a little colors."

" Buy prints from the area. What -- it. Well you know we've got saturation of atom for things it's doing a saturation. It's mentioned. As you saturation. That. These flight is -- print media. Via. -- requirement moment. And saturation there ago it's beautiful you Patricia I just I just made -- look."

" I think it yet. -- So what's happening down here okay don't -- so we'll look just that so that we can jump around in the application still maintained will go into those you know immediacy of the crop. You know. Going to the crop tool here which is done about a year ago so now gives us this rule of thirds. Sort of grid over image and we can drag quarters to crop. -- is there any corner of it's moving though things that interest you know and click the middle and drag him around -- and hear from them. And read things. About."

" And that's it has to return the idea that it so that we cannot really profit you didn't so you hidden away. What it's doing is what it means that you want them so if you go back and that crop -- again say its -- or a year from now. There it is your data you can run it and it's there and just keep -- it will retain all that. And if you look over in the history over on the left bottom there you can see everything you've done. -- you can expect any point in time. -- and his injury property. The vibrant sort of going beautiful yet and it will retain all the settings. For the life as long -- of the year in. There. And open -- and there's -- all the work that you don't. Okay sort of history that's like history. It was that this was that surround it sticks around. You know between opens and closes it stays with the image and you can go back and change your mind later you can spawn another version of this image from an it will retain this history then you can go in and you know keep changing it generating interest. You know have this whole library of different iteration of one image that don't really cost it connects things -- hierarchy of the you can us you can yet it was sort of you know sort of like you can't really. Go back in time to change things that you did and -- If you're either an -- to eliminate. -- No that you -- stepped back through it in and change things but you can't go back and delete and re -- the hierarchy of what. Maybe later -- that in the looking at this -- one last thing we're gonna do this quick is one thing a lot of wing and court photographers like to news opinion. So they'll go and so let's let's actually pick another image. There we go to pick from down here yet so let's just say go with that -- them into the net so now armed we can. We can -- a little bit but let's go to convenience those. Go down and will now. Move yet so little done yet it's kind of near the bottom lot of stuff on there. Humans there it is incorrect and so it's just drag -- is Lindsay getting dragged total up to sort of blurred the images. With this feature was originally designed for. Is not what it's being used for -- during this thing. They were going."

" Yes it was designed it to negate winds vignette all but a lot of photographers use it as creative tool to actually burn in the images. Our -- in the corners of images and the reason that they they prefer to do it in light room rather than say Photoshop where you have more control of Photoshop Norton's driver. As its non destructive as well everything light and as licorice and force nonstarter even Wednesday and yet. And not only is it is it -- destructive you can copy the settings and paste them to other images. So we'll go back to let's go back to the image that you made some changes to. So -- is you know you got your beautiful image there move back into grid mode. There is number 53 but also go to it in control copy. -- hit the and I'm done with your NT but bring up the contextual menu."

" That's come back over here and if there will be with the -- control here yeah so go down to develop settings. And copy settings at the top. So okay so now this copy settings dialog box tells you everything that you can tapping these are all the changes that you made. For example the far right there it even goes as far as to copy the crop. I'm happy to cropping information. Via -- corrections that you did countrymen white balance everything copied to the clipboard so let's just copy. So now let's go back and selected number of images that are similar to that -- say fifty or that are fifty. America Hemmer good to student could or shift from there. Now to the control. Elected him before. K developed settings. Votes and things. And take things so keep them open so you -- settings there so when this is gonna do is just hate those settings it's or brute force on the other images everything edited that -- one's -- exactly but the one down from -- is a little things now but -- one choice will allow you to accidentally those images that master image -- changes to that master mister ripple through to the other images they elected. It. And they -- think. The -- of being applied here for yet now they all have the settings that mean master and you see right off the bat compared to the rest of them images in the movie. Group here that they are better flesh tones and so on beautiful yet. Yeah absolutely so let's go back to this image here. And again we're not actually doing it to the image -- the room to store that data now with those particular images can't NASA yet -- NASA you can keep on just keep going and you know images that you pace of the settings blitzes. Applied system map. To those and you keep. -- You know make it do your bidding. So we'll go in and benefit ex wife is about."

" So this is this is selecting candidate this is sort of compared mode. What this mode lets you do is. You know say we want -- to you know we're going to our library and we wanted to sort stepped through quickly and make selections of web images that we keep which -- star. We when he's hot keys -- flat you know certain images. We can use this you and we can we can use any number of images on the scroll so we had this when Baxter. There. So now we've got we've got -- images here you control click another room. A quick and another on them they aren't so we can go there. And adding I think 212 you know. And there. To keep adding and then from -- you -- Flickr contacts like virtual context of the currency one with her smiling on the left is the best line. Acting like that by clicking flag there. Area that balance flag as it it. Right so I keep going in my library if we want -- with the issue -- sudden you know. Starbucks with my with my MacBook pro and it can go through and boom -- of them and excellent I want and then later. Go back and then we can do my adjustments and copy settings and and it happened with hello chairman ratings of them nothing else -- star -- a number of different things you start reading you've got flag you've got color. Chips that you depending on how you work you know some photographers of pioneering like meaning it's either vendors not you know something there's going in the select them so mile or so ago and some photographers at different levels of -- if you're stuck photographer you might say. You know this one's good enough for stock and but with three stars three starts up stuck five stars give -- from -- portfolio you know rules and you know depending how you word application. Is designed specifically to allow itself to use were. Mill into with -- how they work -- it doesn't -- you do any particular work. This is great that's got a lot of power built into it yeah there's less stuff in here you can go on and on in terms of you know we're talking about ferocious simplicity last week. It's ferociously simple but it's still deceptively simple as well as it. It gets out of your way and when you can download applications from Adobe that comes just like play witnessed thirty day trial. -- But it doesn't intimidate you when you first -- friends and get and it says okay imports and images and you'll see them can organize. But as you go on you start learning different things -- application can do and it's like oh well something else like at a time do oh web gallery -- you know. The print model which we can even go into the -- you know it actually. Makes it easy now to get prints application. And and these friends will be based on the dated did you set up in the changes. But the -- just okay and that means Erica yep so which is what photographers demand you know especially with. Over the last couple years the big buzz words and raw you know everything in with human humour largely. From -- perspective. It doesn't care it's. It. If you shoot raw because there's you know they they have more data in the file -- you make more adjustments to it like you're making before he knew more fine grains sliding. And more. Changes that you could apply as far as color balance and let's. If you shoot JPEG of course it's smaller files you know have that much but from a light room perspective. It doesn't care if it's the tip of the JPEG -- whatever it treats everything as. It's just the data that it's pulling from from that bucket of information that it's gonna pull from that data. If it's -- it's JPEG it's still gonna be non destructive over the whole work -- sixteen bit that doesn't doesn't matter it doesn't matter so in some some instances. You know the more that you open and -- got a JPEG you know you keep its destroying more and more more pixels. We'll light room each time you make an iteration that it's referring to -- original JPEG images so you know they may not be good pixels to begin to live. But it's not gonna change you know it's gonna keep referring to those if you give it raw data it has more work those work. Current and they can download this and play with a -- yeah they can download it and play with it from Adobe that comes less --"

" The -- doing -- screen. Of great. This is good is a good introduction to it and hopefully they're -- up that's gonna start Dallas right now -- claim that play -- in provided feedback we've lived here guys in you know tells what you like what you don't like him. You know you're changes in. Manitoba does this and I've noticed that for a while I didn't but now they've definitely listen which is good. Thanks for coming on the show you'll -- don't have to have hope you guys are something from this download and play -- to your heart's content that's the best way to learn things to sit there and play. See you next week."