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EcoSystm: Biodiesel!

Monday, October 15th, 2007 – running time 15:49
Diesels get better mileage than gas engines. Biodiesel has a lower carbon footprint and supports farmers. Great reasons to dump a gas engine and run biodiesel. Want a better reason? Exxon made 36 Billion last year... you don't have to buy gasoline.

Welcome to EcoSystm #2.

Listen up: first person to call Patrick a tree huggin' California Hippy for wanting to run biodiesel instead of gasoline in his daily driver gets mocked. Publicly. We're not kidding around. We're here to learn more about biodiesel, how it's made, and what it takes to run it thru a diesel car or truck engine.

Did we say hippy? Sure, Team Systm recycles. We reuse. (David is the -king- of reusing.) We do what we can to keep stuff out of waste dumps and toxic stuff out of the water supply. Our producer Glenn runs Biodiesel cause he thinks it's the right thing to do.

So do the folks at the BioFuel Oasis over in Berkeley, who took some time to talk to us about what to look for in biodiesel.

They pointed out that not all biodiesel comes from domesetic sources: if you want to support American farmers, make sure your biodiesel is made from oil that originates in the US.

Whereever the source, Biodiesel is vegetable oil that's been thru a process called transesterification. That means they've taken the glycerin out and replaced with alcohol --making a thinner fluid that'll pass thru a Diesel engine's fuel injectors. It's a pretty nifty hack. That process is what separates biodiesel from waste vegetable oil (greasel) or vegetable oil conversions, which require heating the fuel to make it thin enough to pass thru the engine. (The Biodiesel Board has some good info.)

You can brew biodiesel in your own home... tho, frankly, we'd rather buy it pre-made. The neighbors think we're sketchy enough without us rolling 50 gallon drums of vegetable oil and lye into the garage.

In any case, this whole Biodiesel thing isn't about better gas mileage Sure, Patrick's buddy has a massive Cummins diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 Crew Cab that gets better gas mileage than Patrick's 3.4L powered Toyota. (Better mileage is more of a diesel vs. gas thing.)

Nor is it about a lower carbon footprint. (Though, in theory, locally produced biodiesel should have a lower carbon footprint: it comes from plants that turn C02 into 02, right?)

Nope, it's about Exxon Mobil making $36 billion last year. There's nothing wrong with that: it's an amazing feat for any corporation.

Patrick just wants to exercise his free market choice... and not put any more money in XON bank account.

And, hey, even running B5 or B20 (5% and 20% biodiesel to diesel blends) reduces our dependence on foreign oil... that's a good thing.

Almost as good as reducing our oil consumption, period... anybody up for an electric car mod?

Highlights
South America ( 6:15, 12:18, 6:15, 12:18 ) new car ( 7:52, 12:42, 12:44, 7:52, 12:42, 12:44 ) united states ( 2:09, 2:09 ) road trip ( 11:02, 11:02 ) South America ( 6:15, 12:18, 6:15, 12:18 ) new car ( 7:52, 12:42, 12:44, 7:52, 12:42, 12:44 ) united states ( 2:09, 2:09 ) road trip ( 11:02, 11:02 )

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" Hey I'm Patrick Norton -- the -- the systm episode 21 ecosystem number two we're gonna talk about biodiesel biodiesel is basically. A vegetable based fuel you can run in diesel engine systems. -- On your fuel system. Okay -- and I hope we got somebody that can talk about we got to somebody's we can talk you first off we're thank you Gretchen Zimmerman who runs the battlefield -- your Berkeley California about her experiences providing. Biodiesel for a lot of people in the Bay Area. The rotunda Glenn McElhose one of our producers who runs every day of his heavy the light biodiesel inside of his -- and what the differences between running. Bio diesel diesel and gasoline are in his experience is basically regularly -- which is nice when talking about the dirt Clinton had been Glenn isn't that way. That's -- an apology and -- hit it. It's dead the concept is change -- I'm talking about and it's an interesting idea right first of of one of the largest consumers of biodiesel is united states military second of all I don't a lot of people think -- supporting farmers in America is a pretty good thing and third well I'm not gonna get into the -- even -- biodiesel debate but there's some interesting stuff to be learned there again for another episode of the show we don't talk to -- absolutely but sent over."

" Where is -- about you oasis whipping out there who's ever have one of the -- that runs the collective. The -- a little bit about biodiesel how it differs from agrees -- and regular old diesel."

" Biodiesel. Is. Fuel that's been made out of vegetable oil but it's been chemically altered and because their process for the blister under this is removed and that makes it thinner than vegetable oil so you don't need heated like you do vegetable oil system. Before it goes through these actors it's been enough he's analyzed properly."

" To get a bit more detailed biodiesel is a diesel equivalent fuel derived from biological sources such as soybean oil that could be run in and on modified diesel engine. That makes it a bit different from SP you know straight vegetable oils but WTO waste vegetable -- for animal fats -- and reasonable. -- requirements to vehicle's fuel system to keep the fans to make -- enough to work with fewer objectors or at least modern fuel pumps or something. Yes biodiesel does come from natural oils are fast but. Transistor application makes -- different. This process exchanges via proxy group -- minister compound by other alcohol. Or in terms like in more understand transistor vacation turns of those events and pastors are replacing the cholesterol alcohol. Much like green beer. Biodiesel as a recipe. If you own a processing tank to 130 degrees fixed line -- a separate tank for that -- the processor makes it wait for the oil glycerin to separate -- the blistering. Maybe sell -- so maker. You get the idea. And yes folks who -- went home not just to be plants -- local co ops matter of fact. You can actually buy machines that will blend the -- ratios of the raw materials for biodiesel. Do the mixed in heating. And leave you with a ticket blister and pull up the bottom pretty slick even if it is almost 8000 dollars."

" A lot of people confuse bio diesel -- Seoul where basically have to wrap heating coils around the entire fuel system. Kelly on an awful."

" Right those -- straight vegetable oil systems and a lot of news media used biodiesel fun and straight vegetable oil descriptions interchangeably and called them by a each other's names so it is very confusing."

" What's the biggest challenge you've seen when people move vehicle from diesel the biodiesel."

" The biggest technical issue is fuel filter clogging because biodiesel assault and it cleans out any terrorists and their -- that cost ultra fine."

" There's kind of funny is that -- if they can present their fuel system. And the bad -- scrubbing and out right what have as a biodiesel when the temperature dipped below their computers."

" It does start to solidify it about the same -- point -- toilets and out of you can lower than shelling point by just blending in diesel."

" On some of the newer engines there seems to be certainly a lot of the car manufacturers are engine manufacturers so I don't run 100% biodiesel and it because. You'll clogged you know common rail fuel injection and high end stuff and a lot of people seem to be in the field running. 100% you'll be 100 or a 100% biodiesel with no problems what you suggest to folks have been got a brand new super expensive car."

" There could be some issues with switching fuels. And we're seeing some issues with. Cars that have run first on the old diesel that was out last year which was not. High in sulfur. Than California switched over to ultra low sulfur diesel which is less live arcade game. And higher in the IOC's. A lot of the times of people to switch back to biodiesel. Just forget about having the -- the shop let it sit then the on ejector comfort a couple of days it swells the seals and leaking stops."

" In terms of if you wanted to you know make sure it's a domestic source of the world you can see it's got a silly divide you know. Oil that's been made in South America and then shipped on a container ship up the united it doesn't make any sense is there any waited to determine what the source -- for biodiesel."

" I don't think there is right now I know that there are people working on getting some kind of green ratings for biodiesel but I noticed the council of California. Is advocating it."

" Briefly that's an interesting laws and enacted California suggesting if it shouldn't be any higher concentrations. Biodiesel higher than B twenty available upon some thoughts on."

" Anything higher than -- money which is 20% biodiesel. It's considered experimental they made us put this warning on our -- really against it first and the what our way around it was that everybody who buys or you'll have to be a member of our fleet. And then we can sell them higher than -- the good thing that's come out of is that we have to tell them."

" You need to -- change your filters. You have to watch out for cold weather. If you've got older car that got rubber hoses you'll need to replace them. And now we're actually able to collect information about this issue with the ultra low sulfur diesel in the seals and -- your -- If somebody wants to start running biodiesel what are you recommending that you first. Well the first then if -- do is find a car. That they should also evaluate if that's really the best option because if they've got a car this page war and that's reason."

" efficient and they don't really need to drive them lunch. That might be a better option -- can with the just sticking with the -- they have driving us every new car that's built. Generates pollution. So going into debt to buy a -- shadow or something isn't really necessarily. Get help all that -- really isn't that much should basically. The."

" So Glenn you are actually the a producer for ecosystem. Not that you just -- to produce a show for us it was you have a very. Big passion for the -- stuff indeed and this is kind of the culmination of can tell -- about it."

" Here this is Volkswagen -- TV I 2004. Had it for about. Go on for months now and you know it's been great the only tricky part has been just trying to find the fueling locations which. It takes literally getting used to -- the different locations are -- get there in time before work after where it. You know the simple things in and even when -- send -- 100 write again B 100. So and the pretty pretty pretty good the planning you'll probably be a 100% but that's the air we've we've changed now -- I've got a couple five gallon tanks of that we have got that has backed up because they did have. Coupled run -- when -- and a gallon of regular diesel of this because it was an accessible and that you know unplanned emergency time speaking have a plan in the background and you can add images -- one would think Kevin and Alex nicknames we well I'll city camera where it solos shooting indignation -- bit infineon raceway. And you know we had a car planned to to ran out and I think it was. William Hummer or something and I wasn't really excited about that has like a camera to show these guys you know that biodiesel school when you can get it really easily and you know it's good to move in that direction so. But in the car and started driving up to infineon and it was one of those emergency times where I hadn't been able to get away negate gas in the literally day and it -- for now my papers of the different fueling stations along waiting for them up in the car find one it's. -- it probably ten miles out of the way we go down some back Alley streets in you know a dog comes -- barking at the game where we pull up that end you know I'm calling guy and it it didn't go as as I had planned but. You know that that's the ticket -- it is kind of a different way of thinking and lifestyle you don't just run and -- gassing get out a lot of these places are. You know you need pull in there there might be aligned you can talk to other people. We can be a little bit more social in this this instance and the back. Alleyway is as -- You know the guy came now is really friendly and you know we talked and those guys got in on the -- conversations so. Yeah I mean it was definitely a totally different experience than just going to regular gas station. You know feeling up and so I whether -- tip them in any defection. See I don't know how they could've been smoother. Speaking of -- resources. What do you use for planning. Typically go to you know on a road trip there's something I'll go to biodiesel not a word and they've got a great map on there you can look at all the different spots have a printout with you so maybe as you're going on a trip all the people ahead of time -- what -- are. With your car everything you can go on like that. Have you found that it's equal to or cost you more are or. -- goes back and forth as we've seen the fuel prices you know sometimes some Mikey. You know it you know as the thing that I drive by the regular gas station. And Natalie -- she's. Him back below but beyond knowledge it might be a little bit more but. Yeah I feel a lot better about driving the I had I'm not once it puts stickers all over the place but I might have you know my little. -- thing it's as biodiesel and you know and especially as we do things like more ecosystems. Yeah you can't really show up and you know Hummer and you don't get it I called kettle black it's. Expect a."

" It's -- really interesting stuff about biodiesel the past hour. Yeah -- finding -- I didn't realize how much was you know really come from Florida but that -- crude oil coming from overseas he had the idea that actually a lot of vegetable maybe being shipped up and tankers from South America that's a pretty wild concept disc that. Consider doing a lot -- over here you know it seemed to support that and I would actually like this aboard a domestic source of biodiesel -- is Richard what are some really interesting point if you're thinking about converting to biodiesel first of all together gasoline car and you get the gas -- and it's paid off especially if it's paid -- it probably doesn't make a lot of sense economically to convert to biodiesel these are gonna have to buy a new car you're gonna have to pay for the new car. And it takes a lot -- yet to be running huge amount of mileage sort of make up the difference between running and even diesel car running gasoline car. Two. Learn how to change your fuel filters because you should change them regularly especially during the early days when you're running -- in every few thousand miles especially if it's an older vehicle. If it's that 1978300. -- Mercedes it's not quite on it's last legs is been running whatever visit beginning pumped into it for decades. Learn had a change fuel filters could you cannot afford to have the dealership do it for you think -- it does got a lot of changes turned up again. Essentially what they should point out over and over again it's it's a higher electricity you know biodiesel tax is a solvent that's great because that'll help keep your lines clean but it's also gonna clear all of the old crud out of your fuel system. There's a reason there's a fuel filter in between your and your in your tank for your diesel and your engine has won every gasoline -- it's the filter out right before it makes it into the fuel objectors."

" It's -- doesn't or talk about the giant tanks at some of those places. That has the crew and that they might have problems out there and they're worried is the biodiesel. It's not the biodiesel it is purely just the biodiesel clean that out yet it had this problem the whole time."

" There's nothing wrong with the cleaning actions of biodiesel if you filter your fuel and it's Dangerfield filters right yeah exactly -- not that expensive it. Yes it but you know he also want to do your research and also especially if you're buying a new vehicle make sure -- ready to make the commitment in case you know you're driving to the dealer doesn't with a big diesel rule sticker on the -- 150000. Dollar pointed out. Insert name of gigantic -- here. Which I should also point out is my friend of his 8500 pound -- 2500 diesel gets better gas mileage regularly. At ridiculous highway speeds on his 8500 pound truck and I do it might move you know -- six cylinder been here. I don't -- to much better."

" Viewers there's another pretty you know use two. Voiding warranties and and breaking stuff what is granular out of."

" Don't blame us we just gave me the idea -- have did you what you do -- and we can't afford to buy here in your car waiting on my idea is we just all the Powell there was. Information suggestions yes what you do within a few lot of emails a question to show idea or just to tell us we're not -- the idea -- running biodiesel -- diesel engine where -- email us system at revision3.com. SY ST down. That's it for this edition of ecosystem I'm Patrick Norton and Abraham I hope you enjoyed."

" And I'm -- around us and let Mac clothes. I -- an ego thing here. Okay. Grips you and I'm David Randolph Cumberland back close -- Patrick Norton. We don't care better detect it and see you next time it -- it's a good thing."

" This -- system is brought you by godaddy.com. Domain to godaddy.com -- up to 70% less than the competition policy stemming includes free hosting with a web site builder a free blog please email and much more plus enter code CS one SYS one when you check out and save an additional 10% on any order some restrictions apply see the site for details get your piece of the Internet at godaddy.com."

" Hey I'm Patrick Norton -- the -- the systm episode 21 ecosystem number two we're gonna talk about biodiesel biodiesel is basically. A vegetable based fuel you can run in diesel engine systems. -- On your fuel system. Okay -- and I hope we got somebody that can talk about we got to somebody's we can talk you first off we're thank you Gretchen Zimmerman who runs the battlefield -- your Berkeley California about her experiences providing. Biodiesel for a lot of people in the Bay Area. The rotunda Glenn McElhose one of our producers who runs every day of his heavy the light biodiesel inside of his -- and what the differences between running. Bio diesel diesel and gasoline are in his experience is basically regularly -- which is nice when talking about the dirt Clinton had been Glenn isn't that way. That's -- an apology and -- hit it. It's dead the concept is change -- I'm talking about and it's an interesting idea right first of of one of the largest consumers of biodiesel is united states military second of all I don't a lot of people think -- supporting farmers in America is a pretty good thing and third well I'm not gonna get into the -- even -- biodiesel debate but there's some interesting stuff to be learned there again for another episode of the show we don't talk to -- absolutely but sent over."

" Where is -- about you oasis whipping out there who's ever have one of the -- that runs the collective. The -- a little bit about biodiesel how it differs from agrees -- and regular old diesel."

" Biodiesel. Is. Fuel that's been made out of vegetable oil but it's been chemically altered and because their process for the blister under this is removed and that makes it thinner than vegetable oil so you don't need heated like you do vegetable oil system. Before it goes through these actors it's been enough he's analyzed properly."

" To get a bit more detailed biodiesel is a diesel equivalent fuel derived from biological sources such as soybean oil that could be run in and on modified diesel engine. That makes it a bit different from SP you know straight vegetable oils but WTO waste vegetable -- for animal fats -- and reasonable. -- requirements to vehicle's fuel system to keep the fans to make -- enough to work with fewer objectors or at least modern fuel pumps or something. Yes biodiesel does come from natural oils are fast but. Transistor application makes -- different. This process exchanges via proxy group -- minister compound by other alcohol. Or in terms like in more understand transistor vacation turns of those events and pastors are replacing the cholesterol alcohol. Much like green beer. Biodiesel as a recipe. If you own a processing tank to 130 degrees fixed line -- a separate tank for that -- the processor makes it wait for the oil glycerin to separate -- the blistering. Maybe sell -- so maker. You get the idea. And yes folks who -- went home not just to be plants -- local co ops matter of fact. You can actually buy machines that will blend the -- ratios of the raw materials for biodiesel. Do the mixed in heating. And leave you with a ticket blister and pull up the bottom pretty slick even if it is almost 8000 dollars."

" A lot of people confuse bio diesel -- Seoul where basically have to wrap heating coils around the entire fuel system. Kelly on an awful."

" Right those -- straight vegetable oil systems and a lot of news media used biodiesel fun and straight vegetable oil descriptions interchangeably and called them by a each other's names so it is very confusing."

" What's the biggest challenge you've seen when people move vehicle from diesel the biodiesel."

" The biggest technical issue is fuel filter clogging because biodiesel assault and it cleans out any terrorists and their -- that cost ultra fine."

" There's kind of funny is that -- if they can present their fuel system. And the bad -- scrubbing and out right what have as a biodiesel when the temperature dipped below their computers."

" It does start to solidify it about the same -- point -- toilets and out of you can lower than shelling point by just blending in diesel."

" On some of the newer engines there seems to be certainly a lot of the car manufacturers are engine manufacturers so I don't run 100% biodiesel and it because. You'll clogged you know common rail fuel injection and high end stuff and a lot of people seem to be in the field running. 100% you'll be 100 or a 100% biodiesel with no problems what you suggest to folks have been got a brand new super expensive car."

" There could be some issues with switching fuels. And we're seeing some issues with. Cars that have run first on the old diesel that was out last year which was not. High in sulfur. Than California switched over to ultra low sulfur diesel which is less live arcade game. And higher in the IOC's. A lot of the times of people to switch back to biodiesel. Just forget about having the -- the shop let it sit then the on ejector comfort a couple of days it swells the seals and leaking stops."

" In terms of if you wanted to you know make sure it's a domestic source of the world you can see it's got a silly divide you know. Oil that's been made in South America and then shipped on a container ship up the united it doesn't make any sense is there any waited to determine what the source -- for biodiesel."

" I don't think there is right now I know that there are people working on getting some kind of green ratings for biodiesel but I noticed the council of California. Is advocating it."

" Briefly that's an interesting laws and enacted California suggesting if it shouldn't be any higher concentrations. Biodiesel higher than B twenty available upon some thoughts on."

" Anything higher than -- money which is 20% biodiesel. It's considered experimental they made us put this warning on our -- really against it first and the what our way around it was that everybody who buys or you'll have to be a member of our fleet. And then we can sell them higher than -- the good thing that's come out of is that we have to tell them."

" You need to -- change your filters. You have to watch out for cold weather. If you've got older car that got rubber hoses you'll need to replace them. And now we're actually able to collect information about this issue with the ultra low sulfur diesel in the seals and -- your -- If somebody wants to start running biodiesel what are you recommending that you first. Well the first then if -- do is find a car. That they should also evaluate if that's really the best option because if they've got a car this page war and that's reason."

" efficient and they don't really need to drive them lunch. That might be a better option -- can with the just sticking with the -- they have driving us every new car that's built. Generates pollution. So going into debt to buy a -- shadow or something isn't really necessarily. Get help all that -- really isn't that much should basically. The."

" So Glenn you are actually the a producer for ecosystem. Not that you just -- to produce a show for us it was you have a very. Big passion for the -- stuff indeed and this is kind of the culmination of can tell -- about it."

" Here this is Volkswagen -- TV I 2004. Had it for about. Go on for months now and you know it's been great the only tricky part has been just trying to find the fueling locations which. It takes literally getting used to -- the different locations are -- get there in time before work after where it. You know the simple things in and even when -- send -- 100 write again B 100. So and the pretty pretty pretty good the planning you'll probably be a 100% but that's the air we've we've changed now -- I've got a couple five gallon tanks of that we have got that has backed up because they did have. Coupled run -- when -- and a gallon of regular diesel of this because it was an accessible and that you know unplanned emergency time speaking have a plan in the background and you can add images -- one would think Kevin and Alex nicknames we well I'll city camera where it solos shooting indignation -- bit infineon raceway. And you know we had a car planned to to ran out and I think it was. William Hummer or something and I wasn't really excited about that has like a camera to show these guys you know that biodiesel school when you can get it really easily and you know it's good to move in that direction so. But in the car and started driving up to infineon and it was one of those emergency times where I hadn't been able to get away negate gas in the literally day and it -- for now my papers of the different fueling stations along waiting for them up in the car find one it's. -- it probably ten miles out of the way we go down some back Alley streets in you know a dog comes -- barking at the game where we pull up that end you know I'm calling guy and it it didn't go as as I had planned but. You know that that's the ticket -- it is kind of a different way of thinking and lifestyle you don't just run and -- gassing get out a lot of these places are. You know you need pull in there there might be aligned you can talk to other people. We can be a little bit more social in this this instance and the back. Alleyway is as -- You know the guy came now is really friendly and you know we talked and those guys got in on the -- conversations so. Yeah I mean it was definitely a totally different experience than just going to regular gas station. You know feeling up and so I whether -- tip them in any defection. See I don't know how they could've been smoother. Speaking of -- resources. What do you use for planning. Typically go to you know on a road trip there's something I'll go to biodiesel not a word and they've got a great map on there you can look at all the different spots have a printout with you so maybe as you're going on a trip all the people ahead of time -- what -- are. With your car everything you can go on like that. Have you found that it's equal to or cost you more are or. -- goes back and forth as we've seen the fuel prices you know sometimes some Mikey. You know it you know as the thing that I drive by the regular gas station. And Natalie -- she's. Him back below but beyond knowledge it might be a little bit more but. Yeah I feel a lot better about driving the I had I'm not once it puts stickers all over the place but I might have you know my little. -- thing it's as biodiesel and you know and especially as we do things like more ecosystems. Yeah you can't really show up and you know Hummer and you don't get it I called kettle black it's. Expect a."

" It's -- really interesting stuff about biodiesel the past hour. Yeah -- finding -- I didn't realize how much was you know really come from Florida but that -- crude oil coming from overseas he had the idea that actually a lot of vegetable maybe being shipped up and tankers from South America that's a pretty wild concept disc that. Consider doing a lot -- over here you know it seemed to support that and I would actually like this aboard a domestic source of biodiesel -- is Richard what are some really interesting point if you're thinking about converting to biodiesel first of all together gasoline car and you get the gas -- and it's paid off especially if it's paid -- it probably doesn't make a lot of sense economically to convert to biodiesel these are gonna have to buy a new car you're gonna have to pay for the new car. And it takes a lot -- yet to be running huge amount of mileage sort of make up the difference between running and even diesel car running gasoline car. Two. Learn how to change your fuel filters because you should change them regularly especially during the early days when you're running -- in every few thousand miles especially if it's an older vehicle. If it's that 1978300. -- Mercedes it's not quite on it's last legs is been running whatever visit beginning pumped into it for decades. Learn had a change fuel filters could you cannot afford to have the dealership do it for you think -- it does got a lot of changes turned up again. Essentially what they should point out over and over again it's it's a higher electricity you know biodiesel tax is a solvent that's great because that'll help keep your lines clean but it's also gonna clear all of the old crud out of your fuel system. There's a reason there's a fuel filter in between your and your in your tank for your diesel and your engine has won every gasoline -- it's the filter out right before it makes it into the fuel objectors."

" It's -- doesn't or talk about the giant tanks at some of those places. That has the crew and that they might have problems out there and they're worried is the biodiesel. It's not the biodiesel it is purely just the biodiesel clean that out yet it had this problem the whole time."

" There's nothing wrong with the cleaning actions of biodiesel if you filter your fuel and it's Dangerfield filters right yeah exactly -- not that expensive it. Yes it but you know he also want to do your research and also especially if you're buying a new vehicle make sure -- ready to make the commitment in case you know you're driving to the dealer doesn't with a big diesel rule sticker on the -- 150000. Dollar pointed out. Insert name of gigantic -- here. Which I should also point out is my friend of his 8500 pound -- 2500 diesel gets better gas mileage regularly. At ridiculous highway speeds on his 8500 pound truck and I do it might move you know -- six cylinder been here. I don't -- to much better."

" Viewers there's another pretty you know use two. Voiding warranties and and breaking stuff what is granular out of."

" Don't blame us we just gave me the idea -- have did you what you do -- and we can't afford to buy here in your car waiting on my idea is we just all the Powell there was. Information suggestions yes what you do within a few lot of emails a question to show idea or just to tell us we're not -- the idea -- running biodiesel -- diesel engine where -- email us system at revision3.com. SY ST down. That's it for this edition of ecosystem I'm Patrick Norton and Abraham I hope you enjoyed."

" And I'm -- around us and let Mac clothes. I -- an ego thing here. Okay. Grips you and I'm David Randolph Cumberland back close -- Patrick Norton. We don't care better detect it and see you next time it -- it's a good thing."