" War."

" Today's system is sponsored by the United states air force -- from Qualcomm global mobile Internet. And dead space only the -- survive. Are you selling your old computer donating it to charity worried about it as soon because you're small business didn't take reasonable measures to dispose of sensitive data that you're gonna love this episode a system will work at a white some hard drives clean. -- the system up better Norton. And I am Roger -- filling in for David Hawkins who has glass sided anti Texas cup. -- to do with the Austin maker fair Austin Texas robot to robot that -- towards. Killer robots bigger in Texas to him. It's. I ain't going there. Challenge -- every few years the Internet -- up with the news that somebody some what are bought some used hard drives or use computers and hard drives in them lands and data recovery software are just -- the on switch and found lots and lots of interesting things like. Personnel records compromising photos or my personal favorite. Banking records."

" And now while you might not take care or not care if the super gigantic corporation buys your machine and both -- you get all these secret formulas for like. You dish -- or even like you know be be cream stuff and it doesn't matter. That you might be in deep trouble with some like defiance as big of an income tax information is on there they're banking information. What -- Amazon buying records on there people know that you've -- like every Harry Potter books and two. -- Price of what they -- bribery extortion blackmail that's the one so let's talk about protecting your privacy by sanitizing drives. Swiping at a worked for before you release them in part one. Roger's gonna talk about our favorite tool for wiping drives clean air boot. Yes in part to Patrick's going to do the more -- magna an approach. To have two actually has a the perfect example -- I totally -- the machine or rather than drive. Basically by. Destroying it using the government's standard or rather these government benchmark top secret government classified information style with actually some common household tools or at least easily purchase of -- stuff from your local hardware store. Three hardware stores -- tax. Boasted of and one -- AA can't there's nothing wrong with a hard drive shredder or NSA improved to DOS here -- gist really. Immediately. Expansive. -- factor -- expensive and just so people know what do you gestured news. It's essentially a large electoral cola magnate that they use typically for example in the media library with the need to white VHS tapes and -- magnetic material so they can. What they called black them out and then you know basically take the iron feelings and respect him back into a relatively random."

" I don't think there fillings I think to -- it will. Not that clear that yet yet they flip those around I'm not saying that the tape everything and remove it 12 I would highly technical explanation any case. Before anybody emails about the the safety team easier got -- dash and the standards for wiping and whether or not -- effect or if we follow them. Or that any particular cognizant security agencies such of the DOT DOE the NRC -- the CIA suggest. You wipe your data in a different fashion or lighten up we're doing this to be a bit practical for the home user for the small business for people who are not. Well part of me giant agency with us -- were tight standards for data dispose of six."

" We want to take time -- think one of our sponsors for this week showed DA is dead space only to dead survive. Created by hand picked team of core fanatics DA's first survival horror game is so terrifying that it earns an amber rating no place for kids here. Set in the cold blackness and deep space to take up the role of Isaac Clark an engineer for the mining ship USG Shamu. It is not long before -- wakes to a living nightmare -- fellow crew members have been ravaged by a terrible alien infestation. To survive you must master the art of strategic dismemberment. It take advantage of the -- zero G environment to blast your way through your enemies well we were so inspired by the holes dirty thing that we decided to build our very own electromagnetic -- similar to the ones used in game to navigate the wait -- Space environment. Did space also won best of 32008. For best action adventure game of the game critics' awards. You can find of space in stores October 16 so if you want to play possibly the most terrifying video game ever raid. Pre order your copy online now active space dot EA dot com."

" I'm going to be cro magnum man just ignore hard drives you're gonna show us the civilized way to wipe the drive without making useless yes because you know oftentimes you know maybe want to sell the machine with the hard drive or you want to donate the hard drive for good cause -- charity school. Institution of your choice now what we preferred here on the show is -- Newt and the reason is it's open source. It's effective. And the supports a number of different."

" Types of -- so if you have one particular. On in mind for example if you want to do something quick and dirty you can do that -- do something a little more elaborate a little more. Involved you can do that as well it's a war -- and over rights and you know when I used terms like quick and dirty and involved really. It's a euphemism for me from me about how much time even need to that you -- right I mean for 99% of the people out there this is more than Eric covering yours and it disease she needs for a drive right so. And what it does is it it right zeros and ones over every that your possible space on the hard drive. Yeah and it's -- simple to do what you get these -- blue canoe who commute. Boot and -- The CD it's an -- so free again download it burn it down to a CD. Boot up your machine would be going to be given there's really plain Jane screen that we have right here. And essentially all you really need to do is hit enter what -- the first screen -- now allow much we get to the screen after the -- Can be presented with a pretty basic and sparse. Looking interface at a very thoughts fields. Now depending on the number of hard drives and partitions you have the screen wouldn't look different than the one we have rate here. You know at its most basic select the partition or drive that you want and hit space and space spark as you can see what happens is the word white. -- have -- of the bracket on the life. Now what you get that. You're given a couple of options after several options being given key are the peak -- which is called the pseudo random number generator. -- Patrick was talking about how it rates random ones and zeros. The computer needs to know actually how to randomized this computers don't by default automatically generate random numbers computer design and not be random is more exactly so you need to choose between two different -- random number generator algorithms for sun twister. And BI's stack or I -- double AC. -- and I was actually researching this I couldn't really find one huge benefit of one type of a rhythm over another. Some say the sun is quicker and other state Isaak is a lot more thorough but. In the going back and forth. It's kind of for me to toss so I just kind of go with the default was is -- Now you have base it's your second option is an important method and this is essentially the white method that -- who will use. To clear your hard drive. Now it actually goes down in a descending order of how long it's gonna take. How long it's gonna take this kind of equal almost house security will be -- the quicker faster it is. The last time it's gonna have to write those random ones and zeros over and over again and really randomized in Canada blog about it -- that. So. Then we go into -- for verify. Now verification is important if you are super paranoid disaffection says after -- do this line of -- zeros on the go back and verified there's no data there you can do that for each pass or can do it for the last past. Now if you have pretty much all the time in the world and you're pretty much human even running for the week. In today and I'm exaggerating that it's a week but it's a long time it's not like you know watch a prime time -- come back. Finally we have around so I mentioned this before this at the top number of times. After it goes through the process once. For example I choose when the -- lights and as the thirty with 53035. -- okay. You put too it's gonna do another 1. Put eight okay it's going to do six more after that. So. You can do have the super thorough it's going to take forever but I'll have a hard drive known to read and nearly format I'll be safe. In and I just had to leave my computer on for the better part of eight days. -- What you can do that now the cool thing about there's good -- is it it's good you can access more than just one urgency of the multiple arcade machine present generous offer aid. Percent that you can actually have more drives. Generally though according to do they're there's good news. Four is kind of the most. I just Colbert drives Pratt most practical numbered. And things you're not BC if you -- even if you have this amazing quad core machine it will not running faster. Which will be limited by is actually bandwidth. On the bus. If you think you'd be doing multiple drives for -- want to build a system that does nothing. But white hard drives you're gonna want to look for board that supports or at least has multiple. Band width that she sent us so. Essential because it's passing by some pizza guy. Then with this more important -- CP yes so you know even being even -- the I think you that you know you. Speed CPU speed really hasn't very little to do with how the performance of the process works and whichever everything said and then that we could discuss and we need this computer this week I you hit F ten and is going to start to -- process and you pretty much leave it alone and come back. A few hours or few days or ten weeks later most of receiver had to wait was -- close a few days. -- but you know and again that depends on the size of the hard drive when you're trying to -- what method you're using and of course. And in some cases. You know."

" For example the notebook. If you do not have -- plugged in. To a wall outlet and in two hours to dies. Here's third opinions -- yet. Realistically though it probably looking at 34 to me she's one of the more. Modest says. You can use a commercial agent to destroy that drive his companies that do nothing but destroy drives are considered acceptable is legal thing you sign off for they -- you verification of the drive was destroyed. We'll probably use a shredder. Think it'll you know they'd like me over the issue like it will it plan. Well it's funny because you -- we used to work downtown there would be this white truck it almost looked like it garbage truck right. Except that instead of having him unit that would lift the big tub of trash is essentially huge stake. But there's one for paper but also one for solid and immediately hard drives. Go through and you crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch who just literally take it insured to drive up yet. If you get like CDs or dvds or floppy as you pull the steel center out of floppy disk or there's actually a lot of papers traders you know. What it is you this kind of hopefully nobody -- there's disposing of floppies -- you happen in the small pieces. Most paper shares these days you will either handle or half a little slot for CDs and dvds and pretty good job. But -- most of us aren't going to be able to before -- hard drive shredder or certified to -- equipment like having. You know -- magazine you know basically like grabbing -- magnate and waving yeah. Something is not going to clear that platter it actually takes an unbelievable magnitude of the white to drive. So if you're more at the white tie it -- your financially restricted the watch words are disintegrate. Incinerated and pulverized shred. --"

" I think one of our sponsors and -- gives you the freedom to go anywhere without fear of losing an Internet connection one wireless device build and your notebook that supports both EV DO. And WC DNA GSM technology. In -- the world is your hot spot. -- these multi -- support you can get global connectivity without the hassle of extra data cards -- or devices -- to carry fewer support issues and a whole lot easier to handle. And it's even better for IT departments because -- gives you multiple carriers in one device that supports multiple technologies and carriers. Companies can now securing support one notebook asking you for every user everywhere in the world to learn more check out dub dub -- that go be anywhere dot com slash devices to find a notebook for you."

" Six. About the whole melting angle there -- nothing wrong with using -- her to destroy hard drive and props Kevin -- if one of the most amusing -- that ever -- back on the screen savers. Just that the army tends to get the -- little anxious they dial 911. It's good thing if plumes of black smoke. Your house is on fire it's great. Not a great if you doin' somethin' else. Now if he -- accident that also is huge pain in the could. The took us because you know even if you've done in you know how to use -- used to dispose of the acted. And you know what do not port now on the storm drain because I know personally find you -- Kiki between the -- Got a couple autographs right here. You're gonna need it -- bit from a Jewelers at the in the most drives to the -- one or six and one -- precision screwdriver -- those of the little tiny ones that's one reason my most commercial operation just -- they'll want to deal with 123456. Seven feet well a whole bunch of screws to basically get to the one part -- really care about. In reality that you really care is the platters assuming you're not so -- it is to want to wipe the cache chips. Too but that's easily with a hammer takes. I told you is cave man that's pretty sure that those are wiped. So police hold up the -- The reality is if you really only care about a few microns on the surface of the platter on the tight Klein might crimes if that and the bottom most -- are aluminum or glass coated with at the end incredibly thin mixture of mostly non fairest job and -- affairs material. And that's -- who holds the magnetic -- the record indeed. You make that clear go away and your data is gone gone gone at least until somebody can reassemble dust into the zeros and ones that -- days it was made up. If you're lucky your platters -- last few hidden the shattered had a few more times you have -- We're goggles you don't know players -- of the glass ones their detention they tend to explode when you hit them it's a little scary you're not expecting it. Now here platter dance rather than explodes. He demonstrated here. That's on that. That's relief fund can start. Though how much of that Alou -- she was thinking you drop that off the same place three drop off aluminum cans you know I would assume so but I've never actually wired. Because I'm wondering you decide to -- nickel firsthand coming Nichols would give you for what -- absolutely nothing because the nickel on the -- as a deposit return how ever you could possibly sell the aluminum. Certainly in the frame to an aluminum recycler -- bulk recycling so much for my quick road to riches."

" Now by the way. There's a little bit catharsis here. -- cues -- angry computers or maybe I'm angry computers a lot of the time but if you're destroying hundreds hacked dozens of disks every year. You shipping mattered to go off seeing Horry shredding tool. Or a professional service. If not this is a great chance to practice anger management. If you guess -- or writer just person eating grin on it. -- the disk and devices assuming you've removed the disk from the drive and grind off the surface I find many of the disk over nine degrees first. Makes it easier to hold the vice -- sand. Well the little tiny manei -- bits off the surface of the desk. You know you can also use a grinding. Wheels for this and essentially just. In a way yes they basically organized -- any kind of Sandra work on that. Melting disk is a lot more fine is so easy given oxy settling torch or as very woods should shows a personal propane forge. I want one or you can do we be able to spend fifty bucks for burns over manic style welding kiss. Takes a while not nearly as passenger traditional -- settling cutting torch for the heat is that like to call in the shop. But. Definitely a way to swipe at discounts now you know will will."

" Any torturer you can you can use a propane torch as well you need them as talking torches don't seem to do much of any I'm sure it does some damage to the data on there. But in wintertime about the difference between. Well you know this is that this that's been hit by propane and this is the disks they're basically regular propane torch and this is a disk that's been hit. You know hand -- is settling torture map gas to actually and one question. Are there any themes or anything need to be aware of -- to start roasting -- through not to do this indoors do it in his ventilated area. Do not to leave it over the thing you're vaporize and I don't know what's coming off of this but I know it's incredibly sophisticated. This -- a there's a lot of fascinating chemicals that go into the surface. A hard drive platter you don't want to breathing any of them. Get down because they want to do -- be -- this and producer mark."

" I was over it now don't you think all that's just a little bit a little bit overkill."

" And insurers. For most people but it's fun and it -- mean your data is gone at least my early 21 century standards and you the truth as you should probably should use professional service -- leverage the responsible thing to do but again you know. If you just don't -- to get cause that you weren't using a machine and some super secret Manhattan project style no event. I think you're pretty good with using editors equipment. Yes absolutely although it does kind of happy -- back scripting drives. Not to show it. It's just yeah."

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" Aren't we got a pile links for a backer risen three dot com slash system including links to there's boot and nuke. Some alternative software applications probably the map gas torch and definitely some good read. On hard drive sanitizing -- Now that's it for this edition of system we hope you've enjoyed watching it. Sophie -- at system that revision three dot com. Catch up on the previous episodes of revision three dot com slash system. It if you want to complain to fellow viewers or at least trade bars and that you know jocular style you guys are often industry but what's nice things to say you can say nice things because. It did read our forums. And revision three dot com slash four don't forget to benefit from this."

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" Today's system is sponsored by the United states air force -- from Qualcomm global mobile Internet. And dead space only the -- survive. Are you selling your old computer donating it to charity worried about it as soon because you're small business didn't take reasonable measures to dispose of sensitive data that you're gonna love this episode a system will work at a white some hard drives clean. -- the system up better Norton. And I am Roger -- filling in for David Hawkins who has glass sided anti Texas cup. -- to do with the Austin maker fair Austin Texas robot to robot that -- towards. Killer robots bigger in Texas to him. It's. I ain't going there. Challenge -- every few years the Internet -- up with the news that somebody some what are bought some used hard drives or use computers and hard drives in them lands and data recovery software are just -- the on switch and found lots and lots of interesting things like. Personnel records compromising photos or my personal favorite. Banking records."

" And now while you might not take care or not care if the super gigantic corporation buys your machine and both -- you get all these secret formulas for like. You dish -- or even like you know be be cream stuff and it doesn't matter. That you might be in deep trouble with some like defiance as big of an income tax information is on there they're banking information. What -- Amazon buying records on there people know that you've -- like every Harry Potter books and two. -- Price of what they -- bribery extortion blackmail that's the one so let's talk about protecting your privacy by sanitizing drives. Swiping at a worked for before you release them in part one. Roger's gonna talk about our favorite tool for wiping drives clean air boot. Yes in part to Patrick's going to do the more -- magna an approach. To have two actually has a the perfect example -- I totally -- the machine or rather than drive. Basically by. Destroying it using the government's standard or rather these government benchmark top secret government classified information style with actually some common household tools or at least easily purchase of -- stuff from your local hardware store. Three hardware stores -- tax. Boasted of and one -- AA can't there's nothing wrong with a hard drive shredder or NSA improved to DOS here -- gist really. Immediately. Expansive. -- factor -- expensive and just so people know what do you gestured news. It's essentially a large electoral cola magnate that they use typically for example in the media library with the need to white VHS tapes and -- magnetic material so they can. What they called black them out and then you know basically take the iron feelings and respect him back into a relatively random."

" I don't think there fillings I think to -- it will. Not that clear that yet yet they flip those around I'm not saying that the tape everything and remove it 12 I would highly technical explanation any case. Before anybody emails about the the safety team easier got -- dash and the standards for wiping and whether or not -- effect or if we follow them. Or that any particular cognizant security agencies such of the DOT DOE the NRC -- the CIA suggest. You wipe your data in a different fashion or lighten up we're doing this to be a bit practical for the home user for the small business for people who are not. Well part of me giant agency with us -- were tight standards for data dispose of six."

" We want to take time -- think one of our sponsors for this week showed DA is dead space only to dead survive. Created by hand picked team of core fanatics DA's first survival horror game is so terrifying that it earns an amber rating no place for kids here. Set in the cold blackness and deep space to take up the role of Isaac Clark an engineer for the mining ship USG Shamu. It is not long before -- wakes to a living nightmare -- fellow crew members have been ravaged by a terrible alien infestation. To survive you must master the art of strategic dismemberment. It take advantage of the -- zero G environment to blast your way through your enemies well we were so inspired by the holes dirty thing that we decided to build our very own electromagnetic -- similar to the ones used in game to navigate the wait -- Space environment. Did space also won best of 32008. For best action adventure game of the game critics' awards. You can find of space in stores October 16 so if you want to play possibly the most terrifying video game ever raid. Pre order your copy online now active space dot EA dot com."

" I'm going to be cro magnum man just ignore hard drives you're gonna show us the civilized way to wipe the drive without making useless yes because you know oftentimes you know maybe want to sell the machine with the hard drive or you want to donate the hard drive for good cause -- charity school. Institution of your choice now what we preferred here on the show is -- Newt and the reason is it's open source. It's effective. And the supports a number of different."

" Types of -- so if you have one particular. On in mind for example if you want to do something quick and dirty you can do that -- do something a little more elaborate a little more. Involved you can do that as well it's a war -- and over rights and you know when I used terms like quick and dirty and involved really. It's a euphemism for me from me about how much time even need to that you -- right I mean for 99% of the people out there this is more than Eric covering yours and it disease she needs for a drive right so. And what it does is it it right zeros and ones over every that your possible space on the hard drive. Yeah and it's -- simple to do what you get these -- blue canoe who commute. Boot and -- The CD it's an -- so free again download it burn it down to a CD. Boot up your machine would be going to be given there's really plain Jane screen that we have right here. And essentially all you really need to do is hit enter what -- the first screen -- now allow much we get to the screen after the -- Can be presented with a pretty basic and sparse. Looking interface at a very thoughts fields. Now depending on the number of hard drives and partitions you have the screen wouldn't look different than the one we have rate here. You know at its most basic select the partition or drive that you want and hit space and space spark as you can see what happens is the word white. -- have -- of the bracket on the life. Now what you get that. You're given a couple of options after several options being given key are the peak -- which is called the pseudo random number generator. -- Patrick was talking about how it rates random ones and zeros. The computer needs to know actually how to randomized this computers don't by default automatically generate random numbers computer design and not be random is more exactly so you need to choose between two different -- random number generator algorithms for sun twister. And BI's stack or I -- double AC. -- and I was actually researching this I couldn't really find one huge benefit of one type of a rhythm over another. Some say the sun is quicker and other state Isaak is a lot more thorough but. In the going back and forth. It's kind of for me to toss so I just kind of go with the default was is -- Now you have base it's your second option is an important method and this is essentially the white method that -- who will use. To clear your hard drive. Now it actually goes down in a descending order of how long it's gonna take. How long it's gonna take this kind of equal almost house security will be -- the quicker faster it is. The last time it's gonna have to write those random ones and zeros over and over again and really randomized in Canada blog about it -- that. So. Then we go into -- for verify. Now verification is important if you are super paranoid disaffection says after -- do this line of -- zeros on the go back and verified there's no data there you can do that for each pass or can do it for the last past. Now if you have pretty much all the time in the world and you're pretty much human even running for the week. In today and I'm exaggerating that it's a week but it's a long time it's not like you know watch a prime time -- come back. Finally we have around so I mentioned this before this at the top number of times. After it goes through the process once. For example I choose when the -- lights and as the thirty with 53035. -- okay. You put too it's gonna do another 1. Put eight okay it's going to do six more after that. So. You can do have the super thorough it's going to take forever but I'll have a hard drive known to read and nearly format I'll be safe. In and I just had to leave my computer on for the better part of eight days. -- What you can do that now the cool thing about there's good -- is it it's good you can access more than just one urgency of the multiple arcade machine present generous offer aid. Percent that you can actually have more drives. Generally though according to do they're there's good news. Four is kind of the most. I just Colbert drives Pratt most practical numbered. And things you're not BC if you -- even if you have this amazing quad core machine it will not running faster. Which will be limited by is actually bandwidth. On the bus. If you think you'd be doing multiple drives for -- want to build a system that does nothing. But white hard drives you're gonna want to look for board that supports or at least has multiple. Band width that she sent us so. Essential because it's passing by some pizza guy. Then with this more important -- CP yes so you know even being even -- the I think you that you know you. Speed CPU speed really hasn't very little to do with how the performance of the process works and whichever everything said and then that we could discuss and we need this computer this week I you hit F ten and is going to start to -- process and you pretty much leave it alone and come back. A few hours or few days or ten weeks later most of receiver had to wait was -- close a few days. -- but you know and again that depends on the size of the hard drive when you're trying to -- what method you're using and of course. And in some cases. You know."

" For example the notebook. If you do not have -- plugged in. To a wall outlet and in two hours to dies. Here's third opinions -- yet. Realistically though it probably looking at 34 to me she's one of the more. Modest says. You can use a commercial agent to destroy that drive his companies that do nothing but destroy drives are considered acceptable is legal thing you sign off for they -- you verification of the drive was destroyed. We'll probably use a shredder. Think it'll you know they'd like me over the issue like it will it plan. Well it's funny because you -- we used to work downtown there would be this white truck it almost looked like it garbage truck right. Except that instead of having him unit that would lift the big tub of trash is essentially huge stake. But there's one for paper but also one for solid and immediately hard drives. Go through and you crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch who just literally take it insured to drive up yet. If you get like CDs or dvds or floppy as you pull the steel center out of floppy disk or there's actually a lot of papers traders you know. What it is you this kind of hopefully nobody -- there's disposing of floppies -- you happen in the small pieces. Most paper shares these days you will either handle or half a little slot for CDs and dvds and pretty good job. But -- most of us aren't going to be able to before -- hard drive shredder or certified to -- equipment like having. You know -- magazine you know basically like grabbing -- magnate and waving yeah. Something is not going to clear that platter it actually takes an unbelievable magnitude of the white to drive. So if you're more at the white tie it -- your financially restricted the watch words are disintegrate. Incinerated and pulverized shred. --"

" I think one of our sponsors and -- gives you the freedom to go anywhere without fear of losing an Internet connection one wireless device build and your notebook that supports both EV DO. And WC DNA GSM technology. In -- the world is your hot spot. -- these multi -- support you can get global connectivity without the hassle of extra data cards -- or devices -- to carry fewer support issues and a whole lot easier to handle. And it's even better for IT departments because -- gives you multiple carriers in one device that supports multiple technologies and carriers. Companies can now securing support one notebook asking you for every user everywhere in the world to learn more check out dub dub -- that go be anywhere dot com slash devices to find a notebook for you."

" Six. About the whole melting angle there -- nothing wrong with using -- her to destroy hard drive and props Kevin -- if one of the most amusing -- that ever -- back on the screen savers. Just that the army tends to get the -- little anxious they dial 911. It's good thing if plumes of black smoke. Your house is on fire it's great. Not a great if you doin' somethin' else. Now if he -- accident that also is huge pain in the could. The took us because you know even if you've done in you know how to use -- used to dispose of the acted. And you know what do not port now on the storm drain because I know personally find you -- Kiki between the -- Got a couple autographs right here. You're gonna need it -- bit from a Jewelers at the in the most drives to the -- one or six and one -- precision screwdriver -- those of the little tiny ones that's one reason my most commercial operation just -- they'll want to deal with 123456. Seven feet well a whole bunch of screws to basically get to the one part -- really care about. In reality that you really care is the platters assuming you're not so -- it is to want to wipe the cache chips. Too but that's easily with a hammer takes. I told you is cave man that's pretty sure that those are wiped. So police hold up the -- The reality is if you really only care about a few microns on the surface of the platter on the tight Klein might crimes if that and the bottom most -- are aluminum or glass coated with at the end incredibly thin mixture of mostly non fairest job and -- affairs material. And that's -- who holds the magnetic -- the record indeed. You make that clear go away and your data is gone gone gone at least until somebody can reassemble dust into the zeros and ones that -- days it was made up. If you're lucky your platters -- last few hidden the shattered had a few more times you have -- We're goggles you don't know players -- of the glass ones their detention they tend to explode when you hit them it's a little scary you're not expecting it. Now here platter dance rather than explodes. He demonstrated here. That's on that. That's relief fund can start. Though how much of that Alou -- she was thinking you drop that off the same place three drop off aluminum cans you know I would assume so but I've never actually wired. Because I'm wondering you decide to -- nickel firsthand coming Nichols would give you for what -- absolutely nothing because the nickel on the -- as a deposit return how ever you could possibly sell the aluminum. Certainly in the frame to an aluminum recycler -- bulk recycling so much for my quick road to riches."

" Now by the way. There's a little bit catharsis here. -- cues -- angry computers or maybe I'm angry computers a lot of the time but if you're destroying hundreds hacked dozens of disks every year. You shipping mattered to go off seeing Horry shredding tool. Or a professional service. If not this is a great chance to practice anger management. If you guess -- or writer just person eating grin on it. -- the disk and devices assuming you've removed the disk from the drive and grind off the surface I find many of the disk over nine degrees first. Makes it easier to hold the vice -- sand. Well the little tiny manei -- bits off the surface of the desk. You know you can also use a grinding. Wheels for this and essentially just. In a way yes they basically organized -- any kind of Sandra work on that. Melting disk is a lot more fine is so easy given oxy settling torch or as very woods should shows a personal propane forge. I want one or you can do we be able to spend fifty bucks for burns over manic style welding kiss. Takes a while not nearly as passenger traditional -- settling cutting torch for the heat is that like to call in the shop. But. Definitely a way to swipe at discounts now you know will will."

" Any torturer you can you can use a propane torch as well you need them as talking torches don't seem to do much of any I'm sure it does some damage to the data on there. But in wintertime about the difference between. Well you know this is that this that's been hit by propane and this is the disks they're basically regular propane torch and this is a disk that's been hit. You know hand -- is settling torture map gas to actually and one question. Are there any themes or anything need to be aware of -- to start roasting -- through not to do this indoors do it in his ventilated area. Do not to leave it over the thing you're vaporize and I don't know what's coming off of this but I know it's incredibly sophisticated. This -- a there's a lot of fascinating chemicals that go into the surface. A hard drive platter you don't want to breathing any of them. Get down because they want to do -- be -- this and producer mark."

" I was over it now don't you think all that's just a little bit a little bit overkill."

" And insurers. For most people but it's fun and it -- mean your data is gone at least my early 21 century standards and you the truth as you should probably should use professional service -- leverage the responsible thing to do but again you know. If you just don't -- to get cause that you weren't using a machine and some super secret Manhattan project style no event. I think you're pretty good with using editors equipment. Yes absolutely although it does kind of happy -- back scripting drives. Not to show it. It's just yeah."

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