MAME Case II
Monday, November 12th, 2007 running time 18:18
Our arcade sized MAME case is taking a bit longer to build than we expected. So we're spending a second episode building our classic arcade emulator. In part II: plastic wood, cutting vent holes, and lots of sanding!
We're calling it Episode 24-A: David really underestimated the amount of time it would take to make our arcade sized MAME cabinet.
We originally wanted to cover making all of the panels, screwing 'em together, fitting 'em, fitting the door and speaker and vent holes as well as sanding and filling in the holes. In one episode. Which we didn't get close to covering in Systm Episode 24
Hence, Episode 25: MAME Case II, where we talk about the finer points of :
Cutting vents holes with a wood router Patrick's hot tip: practice cutting straight slots on scrap lumber, not your final project!
Wood Putty our fave product after Bondo for covering up screw holes and cracks in our MAME case.
T-Molding, the plastic edging used on “boats, countertops, tables†and, our favorite, vintage arcade machineas. T-molding.com is Dave's fave source.
And a few viewer questions, including some MAME cases you've built, and one impassioned plea that we remember to wear our masks and goggles… the glue (Urea-formaldehyde) that binds the woody bits in MDF is pretty nasty
BTW, our spiel on the safety issues involved with MDF came from Design-Technology.org not Ask.com!
The sander we've fallen in love with comes from Ryobi Tools, it's a 5" Random Orbit Sander, model # RS241.
In Episode 3 of our Month of MAME, David's gonna wrestle with displays, Patrick sets up the audio while Brendan mounts the computer.
Want to play along at home? David has put together a PDF file with a drawing of our case, along with all the dimensions, tools and supplies! ... and make sure you check out our first MAME episode!
Highlights
MAME
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4:35, 13:05, 4:35, 13:05
)
cutting edges
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6:32, 6:32
)
Patrick Norton
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0:46, 17:58, 0:46, 17:58
)
spray paint
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17:29, 17:37, 17:48, 17:29, 17:37, 17:48
)
MAME
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4:35, 13:05, 4:35, 13:05
)
cutting edges
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6:32, 6:32
)
Patrick Norton
(
0:46, 17:58, 0:46, 17:58
)
spray paint
(
17:29, 17:37, 17:48, 17:29, 17:37, 17:48
)
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" This -- system is brought you by godaddy.com. Domain to godaddy.com -- up to 70% less than the competition policy -- includes free hosting with a web site builder a free blog please email and much more plus enter code system one SYS one when you check out and save an additional 10% on any order some restrictions apply see the site for details get your piece of the Internet at godaddy.com. Welcome to systm episode 25 up Patrick Norton I -- enough patience is point five which is well soon. 24 dollar and 24 dot day. You'll notice were actually giggled erratic fuel the plastic would there yet it hasn't got plastic what. After we. -- like to wanted to young fasteners into the side is that the number eight screws reason number two Phillips had to install those and I'm very intimate with both concepts including the of course. -- thinking bit. Which -- I -- this whole slip in your own clients. Pound but yes this would fill all the little holes and we used plastic -- on that you smeared on -- here. -- I want gonna have going to point out about it is that you don't you don't have to be precisely on making every hole for into the ground has just recovered opinion. Brad you know just shoot me your best guesstimate and discover. Now if you're watching this at home -- yourself silly because you learn how to do you know. Mortars and ten enjoyed areas a small child working on you know votes. Go ahead moccasins your own free time we're gonna fill in our little holes with this do you don't know plastic filler is just by the big box trust us -- come -- useful. Could it hides cracks it. I've actually good to do because I mean. We really I have all loved us and we you I thought a lot of us because you know you can't. I can't measure he has -- dimensions inside his head -- kind of fun to work with the prep on this but that. How the hell with a standard and so we want to wait who wanted to know going to come back and talk about. From the capturing the last company I can't show you what the panels will likely be a chance to you. Physically show you where everything was what really was gonna look like an appointments -- earlier this -- that you'll -- Well here -- us through. Weren't medium density fiberboard held together when number eight screws put -- to -- side panels being the main post you actually -- two inch. Basically what we call these things are -- quick thumbnail and stripped nailing strips and each of the outside panels are screwed into an -- extra. Aren't at that exactly and that's kind of grief that three quarters and an -- because wallet -- what is. Would you call those screens that were nailing strips. I'm out of still don't know -- is kind of what I went chief and columns a through restricted -- now technically correct right now. Just to be obnoxious just a bit obnoxious and I'm sure it'll be a post on the forums Paris taking bit."
" Great -- not -- Poland and."
" Actually it's going on the -- we'll talk about that later. But the driver and multiply by a 10200 times you're sending us yes that's. Although I probably can't counts so I can't measure either but it's. We do what is it we also really underestimating my time it would take an -- main camera we probably upwards of 25 people hours at this point."
" Usually I only now and we've experienced comments you. Never -- some import that little bit more."
" Yeah and we gotta say we can't teach you how to use -- saw or even actually despite my fabulous demonstration drive screws. So look for good. Man or woman in your neighborhood with a large garage full power tools maybe they have the little ladies in the bloomers bending over in the garden out front they sell them at the -- regulate. Ask them teaching -- work with -- chances are you'll have an amazing friends for life and incredible source of knowledge. For a teacher I introduce yes you can run as I -- you chopped. Teachers and school could build community college stick woodworking course is a lot of was learn how to do this. We do want to touch -- a couple of different kind of very MAME cabinet specific man number one team only."
" that's the good stuff. This -- via around you actually dial and yes. And once you pull the pieces team -- because if your live arcade games you know this is a sort of plastic strip. On the outside it every piece of what it's like me you've probably never thought about it that you think about a lot yeah you want to be very specific and if it's the little details is gonna really make it. Pop feel like Apple marketing machine now before it actually power up the -- what that's what we call the split on the a slot there. I'm gonna grab David -- big movies open then read our first email on the show I don't shirt yeah. Right exactly because our forums you notice -- it's fun what are the sit back -- someone else freedom of carcinogens from India. And now we can't really emphasize how important it is where -- I probably spent like 33 minutes. Last time out at all as I -- often enough -- well when receiving ample."
" By this bit MDF that's medium density fiberboard can be dangerous to use of the correct safety crosses are not take it it was I think Ask.com for this. Which may be sustained from the cure through cutting and sanding urea formaldehyde may cause irritation of the eyes and -- that would be the glue it's actually used to hold fiberboard together they reviews you know the amount sort of the amount of off -- from the urea formaldehyde maybe year 9% since the eighties. I can't be -- read from now that's something back and look -- yet. And I thought hey hey hey. You know what urea formaldehyde may cause irritation of the eyes and lungs proper revelations required using it and face mask or even send -- heading India with machinery. Look machinery if you watch the season a lot of machinery last week actually. Just amusement machine India is very dangerous masks and goggles should always be -- at all times in the fact that -- contains a great deal include cutting edges in the wounded that are. But it's basically important to wear -- dust filtering has nothing to -- on and safety glasses when you do that. It's an appointment but it's unplug it and upon taking. You can pick the episode fifty molding. In our kid -- actually. With the slot blade here. This is the routers and routers can be a little terrifying if you're not used them and I've been playing them on and off for most of my adult life I still find it terrifying. And if anybody and they want to give me some rather handling tips by all means send the men -- gonna want abuse at the height on the around her. So it is dead senator. On the thickness of the what you're cutting into."
" And that's important but the other thing if that's not really gonna notice that there. Major perfectly it's getting abstract piece of wood and tried out a few times to get right."
" It took me six this is basically you said it you move it I'll collar on this like that. Hair you've done it again you tested if funding to find it abundant once they get right itself. -- Goggles on. Do we stop breathing."
" So how exactly do we turn corners on."
" Yes well we can you don't want to if he's utility knife or we can use the we can you some snaps. Event and I can you do a combination of the two don't and mobile I'm down here. And this is a much of a transition could get around it but I'd like to do a little bit cleaner effect so all comes up a little bit. On the peace. And I'll just cut all the way down. And they know kind of beyond the spot and cut all the way down. And now what I'll do is just gonna come man. And very carefully -- out cut myself for me fitting these web two or you. Trim out the excess. And it's okay have a little bit more cut away. You can. Then a little bit less. Because it doesn't have to have the in the group the whole way through. But yeah want to go through the transition."
" It'll make a much smoother transition -- now we have a right angled out here how to -- the right angle. Same -- same white what we'll do is gonna come in here."
" Cut down. Plus plus. Go a little bit beyond it cuts."
" Trim it out and now that -- been really nice."
" It -- for more gradual curves you really have to do any cutting and making it yeah."
" And that makes them nice. Creative did the."
" Ready for a cigarette burns from call for people in -- case."
" That's pulls back we could smoke can do first of all that stuff like hills mall at the mall."
" That's the space port -- And heavily conveniently look here at the expense for us."
" Which is pretty much don't think it'll. And that's that economics the really nice digital era -- results clearly had some pretty cool."
" Cases that were submitted by some folks in the four of them dads actually and that death also have a very powerful dep could. Make sure you measure the doorways to the location where you won't do you want your cabinet to live before. You build the cabin."
" It could output -- as -- just what I think biggest ever assume that people would do that what. And it definitely something that take into account. Yes six couldn't afford to build an eight -- yeah. But chances are -- who's going to be a much bigger problem then and -- heights. Could easily if it's if it's not if it's narrowing of easily tip it over and sort of put it on its back which is good. Devils posted a link to his box which looks pretty cool get a couple more voters should flee into the show. So which we can mix. Well our next big thing is let's what's gone on -- More routers work here within the content. We're yes I'll probably have to about that -- we got the heat of the monitor and computer out of the cab. I'm gonna mark BS slots -- gonna cut let the air out the top because somebody believes in the laws of physics -- rises you explain what that against."
" I wasn't really good this is what I've basically since we I called every measurement for the panels on the inside. But because we had all the angles. Rather than sit there and calculating each one I just kind of went around every measure. And the nice thing about this this is -- you can get all the inside angles and the outside angles and read it all the different ways. And I basically just gonna use as normal and or the satellite there they'll tell him a measurement of the cough and I'm off and running. And I think has that I can actually sit there turn out like this. And now I can get the inside angle on something and read it down here. So there's -- bunch of different ways to use this to get a later stuff. This is probably one of my favorites just because they're like 678 bucks apiece. So they're completely worth every little piggy. And even if you're not making giant cases if you're sawing her same thing. Grab one of these rather than normal square. And that's -- my wonderful brand called general. So are we using a -- it for this so we can -- proud of it for that. We could also. Start a whole thing with the drill and user routers had used for edgy. That's probably I'm doing -- easier that's because plunge routers bits it's really hard to get them in large side. But I grew -- cutters you can get bills go up to one and why it. Like it and I have a group that's a half inch -- which would be perfect for that actually a group but you can't plans that is. So it's a good idea to drill starting hole. Put a -- and and then work your way down."
" Sort issue another MAME cabinet. So and about one of the viewers in the forums like -- that thrill packed back cameo again right now S man 26. Share these pictures up on the forum. Love the music on the web pages by the way. While we're out looking at some great -- check this out David sold bomb secretly watches the show to keep an eye on -- sent in this link. David says he wishes he thought. At first. So basically setting up a guide for the -- are. -- we'll unpleasant as falloff. Followed handed to you while you actually end up because -- too worried about marring service in the cabinet has we have plastic hood. I'm going to screw this board in there actually got around. So on the sample you were working on earlier you're testing -- ten. Mr. I can do straight lines."
" I never claimed these straight line --"
" I was actually over here."
" And I wouldn't. Test -- my skills. To see how well it actually up one. -- because it actually joked a little bit hit jumped. And that's to be expected because that's what and it's Canada right. Pocket man handle and all the way through and I just wasn't happening we were actually in our new job. The noise here in the background is the actual crews out there -- painting here -- about. The onstage. Have we haven't got electricity gotten here yet so we have an extension cords from all what --"
" Never remember what's Patrick -- new rule of power tools. Make sure it's off before you plug it in."
" The thing to remember the routers are getting kicked -- but about an atmosphere and we want to pull down just as far towards -- when you're -- then force. And now you. We have --"
" Wow this is why you practice on scrap material rather on your finished project -- the -- smooth cadence of this line coupled with a slightly too large and console. -- my first effort. Which looks like a small child on crank. Remember but the tool do the cutting don't -- don't force practice on something other than your final project. Committed upon them. You know we could show you how we're about the speakers but quite frankly have -- myself enough for the rather today through new that we saw the speakers next week -- but also coming up next week."
" And I think we're gonna do the speakers we're gonna do the action we're gonna get back on track and we're gonna work on the vessel for the TV. And handle the speakers and get all that prepped for Brendan to come in after that and take care of actually doing the main software itself."
" The season total overkill. But. Or sending out would -- it but again say to. If fabulous -- be RS 2418. Is the most fun center I've ever used in my life."
" And I think he was more like forty dollars. It works incredibly well as -- because it's not just an or beatings and there is not just fail are played in standard safe. Random random -- standard. So I -- Obama actually the nice thing is that really give -- it took away a lot of would. So we're estimating measurements -- angles we wanted to make constant curve on the front edges toward that."
" We're especially his -- through on -- eighty grit sandpaper. Disk on here rather than anyone fifteen to twenty you're using. -- want to talk about sending for a moment."
" Yes. Want it fixed to us standing on it is that down. I'm kind of -- the ideally do it -- few part standing. What I'll do it -- start with the use it like it 8460. Or whatever you know the good starting point for rough standing. And then double that number if well -- for fine -- plugging one -- between eighty. And then like a 150 or 160 years 170 type of thing. Do the rest."
" If you're going for seriously insanely smooth -- pay something if you're using spray paint I haven't from particularly talented design student above 300 when he grid. Pointless actually may make it harder for the spray paint to stick to your pain."
" fun stuff we planning users around you want and yet in some cases sought that's that's what we're gonna get. Which is good for latex or oil or pepper spray paint. "
" Speaking of getting smooth we're gonna start sending missing down as the I would put it dries out we'll see you next week. I'm David Randolph I'm Patrick Norton this is system among them."
" This -- system is brought you by godaddy.com. Domain to godaddy.com -- up to 70% less than the competition policy -- includes free hosting with a web site builder a free blog please email and much more plus enter code system one SYS one when you check out and save an additional 10% on any order some restrictions apply see the site for details get your piece of the Internet at godaddy.com. Welcome to systm episode 25 up Patrick Norton I -- enough patience is point five which is well soon. 24 dollar and 24 dot day. You'll notice were actually giggled erratic fuel the plastic would there yet it hasn't got plastic what. After we. -- like to wanted to young fasteners into the side is that the number eight screws reason number two Phillips had to install those and I'm very intimate with both concepts including the of course. -- thinking bit. Which -- I -- this whole slip in your own clients. Pound but yes this would fill all the little holes and we used plastic -- on that you smeared on -- here. -- I want gonna have going to point out about it is that you don't you don't have to be precisely on making every hole for into the ground has just recovered opinion. Brad you know just shoot me your best guesstimate and discover. Now if you're watching this at home -- yourself silly because you learn how to do you know. Mortars and ten enjoyed areas a small child working on you know votes. Go ahead moccasins your own free time we're gonna fill in our little holes with this do you don't know plastic filler is just by the big box trust us -- come -- useful. Could it hides cracks it. I've actually good to do because I mean. We really I have all loved us and we you I thought a lot of us because you know you can't. I can't measure he has -- dimensions inside his head -- kind of fun to work with the prep on this but that. How the hell with a standard and so we want to wait who wanted to know going to come back and talk about. From the capturing the last company I can't show you what the panels will likely be a chance to you. Physically show you where everything was what really was gonna look like an appointments -- earlier this -- that you'll -- Well here -- us through. Weren't medium density fiberboard held together when number eight screws put -- to -- side panels being the main post you actually -- two inch. Basically what we call these things are -- quick thumbnail and stripped nailing strips and each of the outside panels are screwed into an -- extra. Aren't at that exactly and that's kind of grief that three quarters and an -- because wallet -- what is. Would you call those screens that were nailing strips. I'm out of still don't know -- is kind of what I went chief and columns a through restricted -- now technically correct right now. Just to be obnoxious just a bit obnoxious and I'm sure it'll be a post on the forums Paris taking bit."
" Great -- not -- Poland and."
" Actually it's going on the -- we'll talk about that later. But the driver and multiply by a 10200 times you're sending us yes that's. Although I probably can't counts so I can't measure either but it's. We do what is it we also really underestimating my time it would take an -- main camera we probably upwards of 25 people hours at this point."
" Usually I only now and we've experienced comments you. Never -- some import that little bit more."
" Yeah and we gotta say we can't teach you how to use -- saw or even actually despite my fabulous demonstration drive screws. So look for good. Man or woman in your neighborhood with a large garage full power tools maybe they have the little ladies in the bloomers bending over in the garden out front they sell them at the -- regulate. Ask them teaching -- work with -- chances are you'll have an amazing friends for life and incredible source of knowledge. For a teacher I introduce yes you can run as I -- you chopped. Teachers and school could build community college stick woodworking course is a lot of was learn how to do this. We do want to touch -- a couple of different kind of very MAME cabinet specific man number one team only."
" that's the good stuff. This -- via around you actually dial and yes. And once you pull the pieces team -- because if your live arcade games you know this is a sort of plastic strip. On the outside it every piece of what it's like me you've probably never thought about it that you think about a lot yeah you want to be very specific and if it's the little details is gonna really make it. Pop feel like Apple marketing machine now before it actually power up the -- what that's what we call the split on the a slot there. I'm gonna grab David -- big movies open then read our first email on the show I don't shirt yeah. Right exactly because our forums you notice -- it's fun what are the sit back -- someone else freedom of carcinogens from India. And now we can't really emphasize how important it is where -- I probably spent like 33 minutes. Last time out at all as I -- often enough -- well when receiving ample."
" By this bit MDF that's medium density fiberboard can be dangerous to use of the correct safety crosses are not take it it was I think Ask.com for this. Which may be sustained from the cure through cutting and sanding urea formaldehyde may cause irritation of the eyes and -- that would be the glue it's actually used to hold fiberboard together they reviews you know the amount sort of the amount of off -- from the urea formaldehyde maybe year 9% since the eighties. I can't be -- read from now that's something back and look -- yet. And I thought hey hey hey. You know what urea formaldehyde may cause irritation of the eyes and lungs proper revelations required using it and face mask or even send -- heading India with machinery. Look machinery if you watch the season a lot of machinery last week actually. Just amusement machine India is very dangerous masks and goggles should always be -- at all times in the fact that -- contains a great deal include cutting edges in the wounded that are. But it's basically important to wear -- dust filtering has nothing to -- on and safety glasses when you do that. It's an appointment but it's unplug it and upon taking. You can pick the episode fifty molding. In our kid -- actually. With the slot blade here. This is the routers and routers can be a little terrifying if you're not used them and I've been playing them on and off for most of my adult life I still find it terrifying. And if anybody and they want to give me some rather handling tips by all means send the men -- gonna want abuse at the height on the around her. So it is dead senator. On the thickness of the what you're cutting into."
" And that's important but the other thing if that's not really gonna notice that there. Major perfectly it's getting abstract piece of wood and tried out a few times to get right."
" It took me six this is basically you said it you move it I'll collar on this like that. Hair you've done it again you tested if funding to find it abundant once they get right itself. -- Goggles on. Do we stop breathing."
" So how exactly do we turn corners on."
" Yes well we can you don't want to if he's utility knife or we can use the we can you some snaps. Event and I can you do a combination of the two don't and mobile I'm down here. And this is a much of a transition could get around it but I'd like to do a little bit cleaner effect so all comes up a little bit. On the peace. And I'll just cut all the way down. And they know kind of beyond the spot and cut all the way down. And now what I'll do is just gonna come man. And very carefully -- out cut myself for me fitting these web two or you. Trim out the excess. And it's okay have a little bit more cut away. You can. Then a little bit less. Because it doesn't have to have the in the group the whole way through. But yeah want to go through the transition."
" It'll make a much smoother transition -- now we have a right angled out here how to -- the right angle. Same -- same white what we'll do is gonna come in here."
" Cut down. Plus plus. Go a little bit beyond it cuts."
" Trim it out and now that -- been really nice."
" It -- for more gradual curves you really have to do any cutting and making it yeah."
" And that makes them nice. Creative did the."
" Ready for a cigarette burns from call for people in -- case."
" That's pulls back we could smoke can do first of all that stuff like hills mall at the mall."
" That's the space port -- And heavily conveniently look here at the expense for us."
" Which is pretty much don't think it'll. And that's that economics the really nice digital era -- results clearly had some pretty cool."
" Cases that were submitted by some folks in the four of them dads actually and that death also have a very powerful dep could. Make sure you measure the doorways to the location where you won't do you want your cabinet to live before. You build the cabin."
" It could output -- as -- just what I think biggest ever assume that people would do that what. And it definitely something that take into account. Yes six couldn't afford to build an eight -- yeah. But chances are -- who's going to be a much bigger problem then and -- heights. Could easily if it's if it's not if it's narrowing of easily tip it over and sort of put it on its back which is good. Devils posted a link to his box which looks pretty cool get a couple more voters should flee into the show. So which we can mix. Well our next big thing is let's what's gone on -- More routers work here within the content. We're yes I'll probably have to about that -- we got the heat of the monitor and computer out of the cab. I'm gonna mark BS slots -- gonna cut let the air out the top because somebody believes in the laws of physics -- rises you explain what that against."
" I wasn't really good this is what I've basically since we I called every measurement for the panels on the inside. But because we had all the angles. Rather than sit there and calculating each one I just kind of went around every measure. And the nice thing about this this is -- you can get all the inside angles and the outside angles and read it all the different ways. And I basically just gonna use as normal and or the satellite there they'll tell him a measurement of the cough and I'm off and running. And I think has that I can actually sit there turn out like this. And now I can get the inside angle on something and read it down here. So there's -- bunch of different ways to use this to get a later stuff. This is probably one of my favorites just because they're like 678 bucks apiece. So they're completely worth every little piggy. And even if you're not making giant cases if you're sawing her same thing. Grab one of these rather than normal square. And that's -- my wonderful brand called general. So are we using a -- it for this so we can -- proud of it for that. We could also. Start a whole thing with the drill and user routers had used for edgy. That's probably I'm doing -- easier that's because plunge routers bits it's really hard to get them in large side. But I grew -- cutters you can get bills go up to one and why it. Like it and I have a group that's a half inch -- which would be perfect for that actually a group but you can't plans that is. So it's a good idea to drill starting hole. Put a -- and and then work your way down."
" Sort issue another MAME cabinet. So and about one of the viewers in the forums like -- that thrill packed back cameo again right now S man 26. Share these pictures up on the forum. Love the music on the web pages by the way. While we're out looking at some great -- check this out David sold bomb secretly watches the show to keep an eye on -- sent in this link. David says he wishes he thought. At first. So basically setting up a guide for the -- are. -- we'll unpleasant as falloff. Followed handed to you while you actually end up because -- too worried about marring service in the cabinet has we have plastic hood. I'm going to screw this board in there actually got around. So on the sample you were working on earlier you're testing -- ten. Mr. I can do straight lines."
" I never claimed these straight line --"
" I was actually over here."
" And I wouldn't. Test -- my skills. To see how well it actually up one. -- because it actually joked a little bit hit jumped. And that's to be expected because that's what and it's Canada right. Pocket man handle and all the way through and I just wasn't happening we were actually in our new job. The noise here in the background is the actual crews out there -- painting here -- about. The onstage. Have we haven't got electricity gotten here yet so we have an extension cords from all what --"
" Never remember what's Patrick -- new rule of power tools. Make sure it's off before you plug it in."
" The thing to remember the routers are getting kicked -- but about an atmosphere and we want to pull down just as far towards -- when you're -- then force. And now you. We have --"
" Wow this is why you practice on scrap material rather on your finished project -- the -- smooth cadence of this line coupled with a slightly too large and console. -- my first effort. Which looks like a small child on crank. Remember but the tool do the cutting don't -- don't force practice on something other than your final project. Committed upon them. You know we could show you how we're about the speakers but quite frankly have -- myself enough for the rather today through new that we saw the speakers next week -- but also coming up next week."
" And I think we're gonna do the speakers we're gonna do the action we're gonna get back on track and we're gonna work on the vessel for the TV. And handle the speakers and get all that prepped for Brendan to come in after that and take care of actually doing the main software itself."
" The season total overkill. But. Or sending out would -- it but again say to. If fabulous -- be RS 2418. Is the most fun center I've ever used in my life."
" And I think he was more like forty dollars. It works incredibly well as -- because it's not just an or beatings and there is not just fail are played in standard safe. Random random -- standard. So I -- Obama actually the nice thing is that really give -- it took away a lot of would. So we're estimating measurements -- angles we wanted to make constant curve on the front edges toward that."
" We're especially his -- through on -- eighty grit sandpaper. Disk on here rather than anyone fifteen to twenty you're using. -- want to talk about sending for a moment."
" Yes. Want it fixed to us standing on it is that down. I'm kind of -- the ideally do it -- few part standing. What I'll do it -- start with the use it like it 8460. Or whatever you know the good starting point for rough standing. And then double that number if well -- for fine -- plugging one -- between eighty. And then like a 150 or 160 years 170 type of thing. Do the rest."
" If you're going for seriously insanely smooth -- pay something if you're using spray paint I haven't from particularly talented design student above 300 when he grid. Pointless actually may make it harder for the spray paint to stick to your pain."
" fun stuff we planning users around you want and yet in some cases sought that's that's what we're gonna get. Which is good for latex or oil or pepper spray paint. "
" Speaking of getting smooth we're gonna start sending missing down as the I would put it dries out we'll see you next week. I'm David Randolph I'm Patrick Norton this is system among them."










