DIY Portable Power Pack Keeps Your Toys Running
Monday, June 23rd, 2008 running time 24:01
iPod? Camcorder? Notebook? Our Portable Power Pack will keep 'em running, plus we figure out if an AC Inverter or a DC/DC Converter is more efficient!
DC power wherever you go, whether it's for a notebook, camcorder, elevator party, or you need, say, to run your iPod for a loooooong time at the beach... or, say, if you need to keep your notebook powered. That's where the DIY Power Pack came from. (Oh... that replacing Patrick's ElectroVaya's PowerPad 160 would cost $370, on sale from $449 motivated this, too.)
Jonathan wrote in:
Could you possibly send me more detailed instructions on how to build the DIY power supply from Episode 1 of Tekzilla? I guess I would mostly just need a parts list to make sure I've got all the components before beginning construction.
Jonathan
For anybody that missed the DIY Power Pack in episode 1 of Tekzilla, it's a simple portable battery in a bag you can use to power anything that you can plug into a 12V power jack in a car (the plug formerly known as a cigar lighter receptacle)
Given that it's Summer, it's insanely hot for San Francisco, and we desperately want to get outside of the sweltering Revision3 Headquarters, we'd -love- to go in depth building (and testing... especially testing, preferably somewhere with AC or a breeze) the DIY Power Pack for you, Jonathan.
The primary parts are:
A 12V 12Ah sealed Lead Acid Battery, commonly called an 'alarm battery' at your local hardware store. We paid $40 for the one we picked up at Fry's.
and a 12VDC Car Power Accessory Outlet from RadioShack
Crimp onquick disconnects, heat shrink tubing and some kind of container... complete the project. For folks that were curious, our battery is packed into a Maxpedition bag we picked up from our favorite tactical gear and toy shop: TAD Gear. (Technically, there's no Anime there... but there is Rocket World for toys!) Got cash? Patrick's a huge fan of his (sadly deceased) ElectroVaya's PowerPad 160 The company has slick new designs for the PowerPad 95 & 130, which sell for $199 and $299, and weigh less than a third of our DIY setup!
Once we got the Power Pack settled, we went after a question from Chris, who's wondering if he can power is Alienware M7700 laptop directly from DC, or if he needs an AC inverter. The answer is yes, but we were surprised when we tested an DC/AC Inverter powering a regular 120V power supply vs. a DC/DC power supply!
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" Hey everybody it's Gary Vaynerchuk I'm really excited beyond Revision 3 starting June 23 something you expect from my bikini has -- your palate try to do things look at different regions. Yeah look at ruffling the -- The -- so when the -- a little less than there. Yeah. You can expect from the Arctic in an -- Really -- and want. And I -- isn't doing the confidence entrapped. Wow. Yeah I would never put this. You can screw. -- the people double the."
" There's episode of system has brought you by Microsoft unified communications. Eat music being number one site for Independent music. And go to -- dot com. Today we're gonna be talking about the universal portable power pack basically power all your toys no matter where you ago on this episode of system. Welcome to assist the month every Norton John eroded recently could you possibly -- more detailed instructions on how to build -- BY powers by for episode one of Tekzilla. Isn't mostly just you know parts list to make sure got all the components before -- start constructing -- John then. I love this idea it's summer I desperately want to get outside of this building not that it'll let everybody in the studio but. The sun is shining in San Francisco it's rare we should all good dance in the sunshine so why don't we talk about the what's the point power where every ago whether it's for a notebook can quarter an elevator party or you need to say to run your iPod four to three weeks on the beach. The idea is to have much more battery life on -- that is actually contain the on board carry any of those devices. It's hardly a new concept. -- hold on for a second. Because I have supplies. Now solar cells right everybody loves solar cells they're green they're fabulous for absolutely nifty but here's the problem if you charge a notebook. You probably are gonna use -- solar cells like this you're. I'm only gonna use a solar silent about the size in this table top which is hardly portable plus the sun has to be shining which generally doesn't work very well here in San Francisco. I like the idea but the efficiency on the -- isn't so high now let's say your stationary in New Mexico for a couple weeks you're probably gold. That companies like APC and electorate by have been building portable batteries for a long time. And this is actually pretty cool collected by power pad 161 of my favorite products of all time provides fifteen to twenty volts."
" and amp hours for a 160 watt hours. And at least two point four pounds pretty cool and this and want to actually looks like inside its essentially. This is mine after it died. But it essentially is is a giant collection of lithium ion cells. And those are wrapped in nifty little aluminum on envelope like this so basically what you have here is a giant lithium ion battery that'll provide literally. Probably nine to twelve hours for typical notebook over here -- basically of the charging regulator -- where you would plug in -- adapter from your notebooks power charger into pretty cool concept. It's really -- two point four pounds problem is 370. Dollars apps that's kinda hard so they're a little expensive. But the are greatly actually be able to power pretty much anything they can run -- that fifteen to twenty volt was just about anything you can power up the car. It's the lithium ion cells to make the power pack so expensive that is a lot of lithium ion battery one place basically that's like five or six notebook batteries. So the heart this project little old school. It's sealed lead acid battery twelve volts twelve -- a 144 watt hours. Pretty much stone age and turns -- battery technologies after the fact this one sealed so I can turn it upside damn about melting my hand under the table top to because I might even be able to carry this on a plane I was brave enough to -- to. Go through TSE carrying one of them but most of -- it's forty dollars that's super cheap the downside. Nine pounds so out it's a little heavy on your shoulder now before anybody starts emailing and see him listed batteries are not green. 37 states the United States to require any place that sells through an acid battery to take your old battery entry. And the numbers and in -- for some of the groups that support -- lead acid battery industry suggests that over 95 or 98% of all that acid batteries sold in the United States are actually recycle. So please before you start emailing double check your local community it might be easier to recycle these and you think this. It's time -- think what do they sponsor is Microsoft. They put together trailer for their VoIP software solution it's included at the end of this week shell. Find out what happens when a company mandate and takes a stand against unnecessary hardware. So be sure to check it out. -- Next up you're gonna need global battery charger. We found one from. Well it's not know grants from prison and it will -- lead acid battery charger and it basically weighs nothing uses it whopping eighteen dollars and Fries and it was kind of cool -- that also came with multiple tips so we have alligator chips based blood in the ability to bolted on it to a battery supplies. This and doing a fine job keeping her battery -- and popped up and the -- eighteen bucks not that."
" Most of the rest the stuff almost came from local RadioShack. Primary thing you're gonna need is global PC accessory outlet for easy connection of -- twelve all these accessories what are we talked about here. Your basic. Cigar. Lighter adaptor. Looks exactly like this you've probably seen a million bees in a million cars it has the convenient flip open top and remember kids. The tip is the positive and the side is the negative. That would have been about seven dollars. Next up we have 1218 gauge wire. Since it heavily in stock -- local RadioShack we exit picked up a bundle of just jump released. For about Firefox and we're gonna. -- black of the red leaves and -- these open inside the network connectors. For our supply here. And because they don't like the melting Stanley also picked up a inline fuse holders you basic mobile automotive ones and of course packet the wrong size -- disease or poignant -- we're gonna go back intrigued and private Jesus. And of course you need a container to put this thing in the carried around. We have little fancy with him a place called Tangier in the building to basically sell. Here for special forces and enemy toys. It's the weirdest place have ever been and I love it Roger and I both want the carbon fiber brass knuckles really badly -- Mac expedition bag and I've no idea we paid for it and I will never tell my wife and he. Truth is though any boxer bank that'll fit the battery Jesus and -- let acid batteries available pretty much anywhere from like one point two to twelve or more amp hours and basically the purity amp hours a smaller the battery. So basically -- box or bag that'll be your battery is gonna do just fine. -- let's talk about putting it together but first -- to point out of the fabulous. RadioShack. --"
" Hillary twelve volt socket actually comes with -- eighteen gauge wire and an in line fuse holder built in so that'll actually see you little money when your shopping. A bad deal itself just for fun let's start putting it together so we got a wire actually in place on here and you know some have already managed to you mess up the -- make that a little feature. So stretch or wire out. Cut those ends up even. With our wire cutter right here. And in this case I might fancy. Why mr. -- tool amber going to strip off so that you eighteen gauge which is down here."
" And what you may want to mock my. Fancy wire stripping tool which I just -- slowly so look on television and instant and the wire which it never does but basically do. This much is it pains me since I grew up using. Knives and pliers you strip wire using an actual. -- wire stripping tool is gonna give you much better results for most people can you really don't want to -- the strands there inside of your wires and by the way while retirement that any time using. Sort of a portable device or. Automotive. Wiring you do want to make sure that you use stranded wire and not solid wire because it holds up. A lot better. So we got a wire strip this for a little bit more than we need a little quarter inch actually. There is great and what's grabbed our quick disconnect. So quick it's an -- and its leaders built in we're going to slide some heat shrink to be over that his hunt Kennedy belts and suspenders and personally comes. She insulated wires. And featuring -- of course slides over the heated up afterwards preferably with a heat gun that you can also use. And -- I -- critical because of its you have all the time."
" So. For mystery -- our wires little bit here we're just slide the connector over. And this is the part I always hate if you basically make the wires too long need to trim the little bit shorter because you don't want to end up with a bunch of wire sort of blocking. The party's slide onto there so. You can get inside of there eighteen -- is kind of the maximum. Every guess that's looking good you can see the largest comes to the end of that and this is a horrible crimping tool to feel we have in the shop. So really use this I really prefer Klein tools makes an excellent crimping tool little actually put a dot. Really ceiling. -- crimp on the wire so 28 he engaged. And let's see if we can actually make that stick."
" And -- That's pretty solid our next step is going to be the laughed at Patrick because he actually managed to put that would be me violates everything a moment to laugh at me for putting both people -- And the red heat shrink on the same piece of wire. Mom would be so proud. South. Let's -- other of those upstart again."
" It's just yeah. Remember -- without our sponsors we can't break we showed used to help us -- one of our new sponsors. And music dot com. -- has partnered with theme music to create handpicked loyalists of some of my favorites on available -- music. Pretty -- on system. Download the songs and let me know what you think that once a month will be creating and you eat music play list and I'll tell you about my selections right here on the shelf -- that is offering you -- Any -- around they're just couldn't even announced last system and sign up for free trial. 100% MP3 thousand guaranteed to play at any device that. So adding music plays an iPod your resume your Mac -- PC it's all good no restrictions no DRM hassles. It was a favorite support system by supporting our sponsors. So just yeah. It's like the world. Slows. Contributing."
" So they know something we've got."
" Our connectors art quickest and answers site over the tabs on the battery that's those two puppies right there remember -- positive black is negative. If you're wiring me. Cigar lighter socket or twelve volt power soccer there are calling them these days remember the positive goes to be hit that is always positive that the red wire the positive are always goes the tip the negative goes the outside. That's what looks like on the other side just member of the fat tip that tiny tip they're did senator is always positive. And basically. I think it really simple theft we're at this point. President -- hold a meeting here let's take a moment to check we get our battery. -- PC read positive black felt okay thirteen put their cable so it's good -- check things inside of our socket just for fun. -- positive as the center point. Facilities you do by the way if you modify is twelve volt. Power plug for this and what's the rules on the -- Cool. That's working for me okay source socket is correctly wired brings -- to it and that was basically how we've built. The original version of this -- there's one more you know salient part and I thank. And recital tools the way. Cooking night at -- socket and basically we tied. And not in the these cables for stress relief an attached. These cables to the battery so we didn't yank them loose although they are pretty snug. I'm pretty sure when he hears them. Violence complaints about doing this to perfectly innocent mobile cable. To us would be who want to make sure we don't pull this loose and leave -- Battery connectors. Exposed and I could hear. Her inside -- basically secure that his entire piece of tape and then. Brother who like this bag is if we open it up. You can slide. -- battery inside of it. -- so. We put our cable. And our little connector here. He's going to fit. Breaks into the top of that. And we just seems that now."
" And is that -- hopeful that place but basically. Now we've got twelve volts. On a bag that we can carry around and use pretty much power anything. We want."
" move on who want to thank one of our sponsors go to any got a comment there with us weekly and weekend and we want you. Take advantage of their great price when big impact on line you can do good -- dot -- dot com names is a little -- dollar and 99 cents it's where my wife buys are. Dot com plus world class hosting fast and -- website builders and quite a bit more. You can tell your story of the world with dot and the."
" It's insane to me if requested multiple times and auction is going to be held -- so act now increase in unique personalized based on the Internet with that and alt -- a favor enter -- this one's. He checked out of your data dot com and you're gonna save an additional 10% off entire order include -- knows that you're paying attention to what we're offering. Some restrictions apply to decide the details there's a favorite teacher he's from the Internet and godaddy.com."
" The question from Christopher. Chris says I currently have thrown together prototypes certainly card that I installed a marine battery -- 501 hour and murder. -- have plug the laptop power adapter into it. I can use the laptop in conjunction with the number of approximately five to five and half hours before deplete the battery and have to run to a 120 -- AC outlet to plug into it. Because -- way I can power between people -- and laptop directly from the global marine batteries. If so how to calculate the run time the prototypes to very successful I'm currently planning. The second part and would appreciate any help."
" Or suggestions. Chris these are great questions first of all. You -- tired notebook directly off that global power supply without using race in bird you're gonna need though a DC converter universal adapter of some type in your case you're good to -- that to check the waters most of these are set near 85 watts and no idea what the dual processors inside that notebook Poland. To check that out. Now one of the interesting things I thought is that. A DC DC power. Converter would be. More efficient than an AC DC power and murder rates we -- what Roger's notebooks branded matter again much and connected first the in the murder and then DC converter onto -- notebook you know we found them. There's almost no difference in the I could eat fast charging mode where the about five amp draw from both them. -- in this case you're wondering yes. The principal on meters will definitely give you slightly different results -- consistent finance going theater. Here's the and you look at the voltage from -- converter. And here's the -- looking at the voltage from the DC converter noticed something. -- So in that case actually with a lower average drop these changed little bit at least when I was looking at this. We'll notebook here forgot about two camps right now and it will do little to work with the notebook like playing. A 720. Look -- about two and a half the three and a half camps that's coming off. Our battery. That's basically the draw on the battery -- the converter through the normal wall socket now let's take a look and when I'm actually using DC DC power converter that's about three answer it there. And check that out we just say it happened. Now whether or not the results are gonna be similar on your computer you should basically fire vault on meter test the inference drawn that and find that out for yourself because that's definitely in and pack your next question which is calculating how long your batteries -- we're -- the matter before it was labeled as twelve and that's great and look at and it depending on which turns it and and a leader had a ten hour or twenty hour -- Of somewhere around point 61 point two camps. This is great so I can sustain a one point two implode for twenty hours sounded cents -- from doing the math right the problem is. Is the charts that they'll -- we had yesterday I need to drop findings. And what happens as you draw more aboriginal from the battery basically the battery life or how long run the battery -- the voltage it's not acceptable level it's time to recharge. Kids sure what's nice is if you find the manuals for the batteries or somewhere in the sales information sheet you'll get something like this and battery capacity selection chart."
" one little -- is something like this will be occur for in this case a straight line across the charts and it's simply going to be minutes and hours versus the amount of inference that you -- Now that purple line is this twelve manpower battery here right so. At ten hours I get one point you hands. -- cross that battery fabulously at ten hours of battery life and for twenty dollars I'm looking and it's. Point six and it's great. So how about that fighting upload your running what we're looking at -- put yesterday at both way to finance right here we're looking about an hour. 45 minutes tops and it evident to two point five answer look at the screen sits down and understand like on the two lamps. Or actually looking at something closer to. Continue to do. Four hours of battery life. "
" What are you know want to do figure out how many hours need to try to figure out what fraud and bridge you gonna use. And then you can basically figure out what size battery. Now so yeah they're thinking what we really need is lithium ion batteries to make this thing later. And smaller and some of your probably thinking you know like I'm just gonna plug and murder into the dashboard of my car is my -- ultimate portable power source that's all -- the battery savvy folks out there think in this something at this private definitely missing and I agree. What's bad. Some kind of circuit horse what's this automatically shut the power supply -- so basically stop the battery from delivering more accuse what's the voltage dropped a certain level. Why -- dropped the voltage low enough. Enough time you're basically gonna wear the battery you know destroy his chemical reaction dropping the -- to those that for the -- haven't shut off at the right voltage and it recharge. So he had an idea for circuit on that -- have been put it I would love to hear about it can be favorite email me at system at revision3.com. Us."
" Don't forget to send your suggestions or questions and your comments you can tell them all in this system SY STM. Revision3.com. You can also check is that in the forms that originally dot com slash forum. And as always past episodes are waiting patiently for you discover them premieres at three dot com slash system. So check those that you'd have -- keep it out and please don't forget to stick around to watch a short video created by Microsoft. Plus -- additional information about you our viewers we would love your feedback if you have a few minutes please go to revision3.com. Slash SYS three and take the survey until next time I'm Patrick Norton. And you could watch the system."
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" Hey everybody it's Gary Vaynerchuk I'm really excited beyond Revision 3 starting June 23 something you expect from my bikini has -- your palate try to do things look at different regions. Yeah look at ruffling the -- The -- so when the -- a little less than there. Yeah. You can expect from the Arctic in an -- Really -- and want. And I -- isn't doing the confidence entrapped. Wow. Yeah I would never put this. You can screw. -- the people double the."
" There's episode of system has brought you by Microsoft unified communications. Eat music being number one site for Independent music. And go to -- dot com. Today we're gonna be talking about the universal portable power pack basically power all your toys no matter where you ago on this episode of system. Welcome to assist the month every Norton John eroded recently could you possibly -- more detailed instructions on how to build -- BY powers by for episode one of Tekzilla. Isn't mostly just you know parts list to make sure got all the components before -- start constructing -- John then. I love this idea it's summer I desperately want to get outside of this building not that it'll let everybody in the studio but. The sun is shining in San Francisco it's rare we should all good dance in the sunshine so why don't we talk about the what's the point power where every ago whether it's for a notebook can quarter an elevator party or you need to say to run your iPod four to three weeks on the beach. The idea is to have much more battery life on -- that is actually contain the on board carry any of those devices. It's hardly a new concept. -- hold on for a second. Because I have supplies. Now solar cells right everybody loves solar cells they're green they're fabulous for absolutely nifty but here's the problem if you charge a notebook. You probably are gonna use -- solar cells like this you're. I'm only gonna use a solar silent about the size in this table top which is hardly portable plus the sun has to be shining which generally doesn't work very well here in San Francisco. I like the idea but the efficiency on the -- isn't so high now let's say your stationary in New Mexico for a couple weeks you're probably gold. That companies like APC and electorate by have been building portable batteries for a long time. And this is actually pretty cool collected by power pad 161 of my favorite products of all time provides fifteen to twenty volts."
" and amp hours for a 160 watt hours. And at least two point four pounds pretty cool and this and want to actually looks like inside its essentially. This is mine after it died. But it essentially is is a giant collection of lithium ion cells. And those are wrapped in nifty little aluminum on envelope like this so basically what you have here is a giant lithium ion battery that'll provide literally. Probably nine to twelve hours for typical notebook over here -- basically of the charging regulator -- where you would plug in -- adapter from your notebooks power charger into pretty cool concept. It's really -- two point four pounds problem is 370. Dollars apps that's kinda hard so they're a little expensive. But the are greatly actually be able to power pretty much anything they can run -- that fifteen to twenty volt was just about anything you can power up the car. It's the lithium ion cells to make the power pack so expensive that is a lot of lithium ion battery one place basically that's like five or six notebook batteries. So the heart this project little old school. It's sealed lead acid battery twelve volts twelve -- a 144 watt hours. Pretty much stone age and turns -- battery technologies after the fact this one sealed so I can turn it upside damn about melting my hand under the table top to because I might even be able to carry this on a plane I was brave enough to -- to. Go through TSE carrying one of them but most of -- it's forty dollars that's super cheap the downside. Nine pounds so out it's a little heavy on your shoulder now before anybody starts emailing and see him listed batteries are not green. 37 states the United States to require any place that sells through an acid battery to take your old battery entry. And the numbers and in -- for some of the groups that support -- lead acid battery industry suggests that over 95 or 98% of all that acid batteries sold in the United States are actually recycle. So please before you start emailing double check your local community it might be easier to recycle these and you think this. It's time -- think what do they sponsor is Microsoft. They put together trailer for their VoIP software solution it's included at the end of this week shell. Find out what happens when a company mandate and takes a stand against unnecessary hardware. So be sure to check it out. -- Next up you're gonna need global battery charger. We found one from. Well it's not know grants from prison and it will -- lead acid battery charger and it basically weighs nothing uses it whopping eighteen dollars and Fries and it was kind of cool -- that also came with multiple tips so we have alligator chips based blood in the ability to bolted on it to a battery supplies. This and doing a fine job keeping her battery -- and popped up and the -- eighteen bucks not that."
" Most of the rest the stuff almost came from local RadioShack. Primary thing you're gonna need is global PC accessory outlet for easy connection of -- twelve all these accessories what are we talked about here. Your basic. Cigar. Lighter adaptor. Looks exactly like this you've probably seen a million bees in a million cars it has the convenient flip open top and remember kids. The tip is the positive and the side is the negative. That would have been about seven dollars. Next up we have 1218 gauge wire. Since it heavily in stock -- local RadioShack we exit picked up a bundle of just jump released. For about Firefox and we're gonna. -- black of the red leaves and -- these open inside the network connectors. For our supply here. And because they don't like the melting Stanley also picked up a inline fuse holders you basic mobile automotive ones and of course packet the wrong size -- disease or poignant -- we're gonna go back intrigued and private Jesus. And of course you need a container to put this thing in the carried around. We have little fancy with him a place called Tangier in the building to basically sell. Here for special forces and enemy toys. It's the weirdest place have ever been and I love it Roger and I both want the carbon fiber brass knuckles really badly -- Mac expedition bag and I've no idea we paid for it and I will never tell my wife and he. Truth is though any boxer bank that'll fit the battery Jesus and -- let acid batteries available pretty much anywhere from like one point two to twelve or more amp hours and basically the purity amp hours a smaller the battery. So basically -- box or bag that'll be your battery is gonna do just fine. -- let's talk about putting it together but first -- to point out of the fabulous. RadioShack. --"
" Hillary twelve volt socket actually comes with -- eighteen gauge wire and an in line fuse holder built in so that'll actually see you little money when your shopping. A bad deal itself just for fun let's start putting it together so we got a wire actually in place on here and you know some have already managed to you mess up the -- make that a little feature. So stretch or wire out. Cut those ends up even. With our wire cutter right here. And in this case I might fancy. Why mr. -- tool amber going to strip off so that you eighteen gauge which is down here."
" And what you may want to mock my. Fancy wire stripping tool which I just -- slowly so look on television and instant and the wire which it never does but basically do. This much is it pains me since I grew up using. Knives and pliers you strip wire using an actual. -- wire stripping tool is gonna give you much better results for most people can you really don't want to -- the strands there inside of your wires and by the way while retirement that any time using. Sort of a portable device or. Automotive. Wiring you do want to make sure that you use stranded wire and not solid wire because it holds up. A lot better. So we got a wire strip this for a little bit more than we need a little quarter inch actually. There is great and what's grabbed our quick disconnect. So quick it's an -- and its leaders built in we're going to slide some heat shrink to be over that his hunt Kennedy belts and suspenders and personally comes. She insulated wires. And featuring -- of course slides over the heated up afterwards preferably with a heat gun that you can also use. And -- I -- critical because of its you have all the time."
" So. For mystery -- our wires little bit here we're just slide the connector over. And this is the part I always hate if you basically make the wires too long need to trim the little bit shorter because you don't want to end up with a bunch of wire sort of blocking. The party's slide onto there so. You can get inside of there eighteen -- is kind of the maximum. Every guess that's looking good you can see the largest comes to the end of that and this is a horrible crimping tool to feel we have in the shop. So really use this I really prefer Klein tools makes an excellent crimping tool little actually put a dot. Really ceiling. -- crimp on the wire so 28 he engaged. And let's see if we can actually make that stick."
" And -- That's pretty solid our next step is going to be the laughed at Patrick because he actually managed to put that would be me violates everything a moment to laugh at me for putting both people -- And the red heat shrink on the same piece of wire. Mom would be so proud. South. Let's -- other of those upstart again."
" It's just yeah. Remember -- without our sponsors we can't break we showed used to help us -- one of our new sponsors. And music dot com. -- has partnered with theme music to create handpicked loyalists of some of my favorites on available -- music. Pretty -- on system. Download the songs and let me know what you think that once a month will be creating and you eat music play list and I'll tell you about my selections right here on the shelf -- that is offering you -- Any -- around they're just couldn't even announced last system and sign up for free trial. 100% MP3 thousand guaranteed to play at any device that. So adding music plays an iPod your resume your Mac -- PC it's all good no restrictions no DRM hassles. It was a favorite support system by supporting our sponsors. So just yeah. It's like the world. Slows. Contributing."
" So they know something we've got."
" Our connectors art quickest and answers site over the tabs on the battery that's those two puppies right there remember -- positive black is negative. If you're wiring me. Cigar lighter socket or twelve volt power soccer there are calling them these days remember the positive goes to be hit that is always positive that the red wire the positive are always goes the tip the negative goes the outside. That's what looks like on the other side just member of the fat tip that tiny tip they're did senator is always positive. And basically. I think it really simple theft we're at this point. President -- hold a meeting here let's take a moment to check we get our battery. -- PC read positive black felt okay thirteen put their cable so it's good -- check things inside of our socket just for fun. -- positive as the center point. Facilities you do by the way if you modify is twelve volt. Power plug for this and what's the rules on the -- Cool. That's working for me okay source socket is correctly wired brings -- to it and that was basically how we've built. The original version of this -- there's one more you know salient part and I thank. And recital tools the way. Cooking night at -- socket and basically we tied. And not in the these cables for stress relief an attached. These cables to the battery so we didn't yank them loose although they are pretty snug. I'm pretty sure when he hears them. Violence complaints about doing this to perfectly innocent mobile cable. To us would be who want to make sure we don't pull this loose and leave -- Battery connectors. Exposed and I could hear. Her inside -- basically secure that his entire piece of tape and then. Brother who like this bag is if we open it up. You can slide. -- battery inside of it. -- so. We put our cable. And our little connector here. He's going to fit. Breaks into the top of that. And we just seems that now."
" And is that -- hopeful that place but basically. Now we've got twelve volts. On a bag that we can carry around and use pretty much power anything. We want."
" move on who want to thank one of our sponsors go to any got a comment there with us weekly and weekend and we want you. Take advantage of their great price when big impact on line you can do good -- dot -- dot com names is a little -- dollar and 99 cents it's where my wife buys are. Dot com plus world class hosting fast and -- website builders and quite a bit more. You can tell your story of the world with dot and the."
" It's insane to me if requested multiple times and auction is going to be held -- so act now increase in unique personalized based on the Internet with that and alt -- a favor enter -- this one's. He checked out of your data dot com and you're gonna save an additional 10% off entire order include -- knows that you're paying attention to what we're offering. Some restrictions apply to decide the details there's a favorite teacher he's from the Internet and godaddy.com."
" The question from Christopher. Chris says I currently have thrown together prototypes certainly card that I installed a marine battery -- 501 hour and murder. -- have plug the laptop power adapter into it. I can use the laptop in conjunction with the number of approximately five to five and half hours before deplete the battery and have to run to a 120 -- AC outlet to plug into it. Because -- way I can power between people -- and laptop directly from the global marine batteries. If so how to calculate the run time the prototypes to very successful I'm currently planning. The second part and would appreciate any help."
" Or suggestions. Chris these are great questions first of all. You -- tired notebook directly off that global power supply without using race in bird you're gonna need though a DC converter universal adapter of some type in your case you're good to -- that to check the waters most of these are set near 85 watts and no idea what the dual processors inside that notebook Poland. To check that out. Now one of the interesting things I thought is that. A DC DC power. Converter would be. More efficient than an AC DC power and murder rates we -- what Roger's notebooks branded matter again much and connected first the in the murder and then DC converter onto -- notebook you know we found them. There's almost no difference in the I could eat fast charging mode where the about five amp draw from both them. -- in this case you're wondering yes. The principal on meters will definitely give you slightly different results -- consistent finance going theater. Here's the and you look at the voltage from -- converter. And here's the -- looking at the voltage from the DC converter noticed something. -- So in that case actually with a lower average drop these changed little bit at least when I was looking at this. We'll notebook here forgot about two camps right now and it will do little to work with the notebook like playing. A 720. Look -- about two and a half the three and a half camps that's coming off. Our battery. That's basically the draw on the battery -- the converter through the normal wall socket now let's take a look and when I'm actually using DC DC power converter that's about three answer it there. And check that out we just say it happened. Now whether or not the results are gonna be similar on your computer you should basically fire vault on meter test the inference drawn that and find that out for yourself because that's definitely in and pack your next question which is calculating how long your batteries -- we're -- the matter before it was labeled as twelve and that's great and look at and it depending on which turns it and and a leader had a ten hour or twenty hour -- Of somewhere around point 61 point two camps. This is great so I can sustain a one point two implode for twenty hours sounded cents -- from doing the math right the problem is. Is the charts that they'll -- we had yesterday I need to drop findings. And what happens as you draw more aboriginal from the battery basically the battery life or how long run the battery -- the voltage it's not acceptable level it's time to recharge. Kids sure what's nice is if you find the manuals for the batteries or somewhere in the sales information sheet you'll get something like this and battery capacity selection chart."
" one little -- is something like this will be occur for in this case a straight line across the charts and it's simply going to be minutes and hours versus the amount of inference that you -- Now that purple line is this twelve manpower battery here right so. At ten hours I get one point you hands. -- cross that battery fabulously at ten hours of battery life and for twenty dollars I'm looking and it's. Point six and it's great. So how about that fighting upload your running what we're looking at -- put yesterday at both way to finance right here we're looking about an hour. 45 minutes tops and it evident to two point five answer look at the screen sits down and understand like on the two lamps. Or actually looking at something closer to. Continue to do. Four hours of battery life. "
" What are you know want to do figure out how many hours need to try to figure out what fraud and bridge you gonna use. And then you can basically figure out what size battery. Now so yeah they're thinking what we really need is lithium ion batteries to make this thing later. And smaller and some of your probably thinking you know like I'm just gonna plug and murder into the dashboard of my car is my -- ultimate portable power source that's all -- the battery savvy folks out there think in this something at this private definitely missing and I agree. What's bad. Some kind of circuit horse what's this automatically shut the power supply -- so basically stop the battery from delivering more accuse what's the voltage dropped a certain level. Why -- dropped the voltage low enough. Enough time you're basically gonna wear the battery you know destroy his chemical reaction dropping the -- to those that for the -- haven't shut off at the right voltage and it recharge. So he had an idea for circuit on that -- have been put it I would love to hear about it can be favorite email me at system at revision3.com. Us."
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Started discussion: June 23, 2008 @ 2:50pm GMT
Episode 57 - DIY Portable Power Supply [Discussion]
A small lead-acid battery and a few bucks at Radio Shack will net you a nice easy to use portable power suppply that'll keep your gadgets fully charged and operational as you take on the summer season at the beach, in the woods or just around town.
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mari1ee
about 1 year ago
That was my bad. Sorry. :(
I will talk to Pat & Roger about your idea... haha.... =)
computoman
about 1 year ago
"This is mine after it died." How many times have we heard this.... Just kidding. It might have been neat to see some quick suggestions for units to recharge the battery. I thought about getting a ups with a removable battery and use that as a portable battery and and then plug it back in to recharger as needed. I might get a buddy to help me take my unused charger from my portable drill and adapt it to work with a deep cycle motor cycle battery. Maybe even get an old gm alternator with a voltage regulator to hook to a bicycle to charge my battery while cycling back from an outing. I bet Dr. Kiki would know how to do that.
Guytheninja
about 1 year ago
The reason that both the DC-DC converter an the AC-DC converter have close to the same amperage is because both systems are solid state. So you only lose power in terms of heat.
whofarted
about 1 year ago
switch-a-roo
what happen at ~12:50 mark with the multimeter switch? started with the TPI then there was a cut. when it came back we were looking at a velleman.fishtoprecords
about 1 year ago
In reply to whofarted:
what happen at ~12:50 mark with the multimeter switch? started with the TPI then there was a cut. when it came back we were looking at a velleman.
Patrick probably broke the DVM. He's rough on gear.
Deep cycling a normal lead-acid battery is very bad, they can only take a couple of them. Go to a boating/fishing supply shop, and get a trolling motor battery, they are designed for it. The turn off when the voltage drops circuit is a good idea. Probably necessary to keep from deep cycling it.
Guytheninja
about 1 year ago
In reply to fishtoprecords:
Patrick probably broke the DVM. He's rough on gear.
Deep cycling a normal lead-acid battery is very bad, they can only take a couple of them. Go to a boating/fishing supply shop, and get a trolling motor battery, they are designed for it. The turn off when the voltage drops circuit is a good idea. Probably necessary to keep from deep cycling it.
Deep cycling a normal lead-acid battery is very bad, they can only take a couple of them. Go to a boating/fishing supply shop, and get a trolling motor battery, they are designed for it. The turn off when the voltage drops circuit is a good idea. Probably necessary to keep from deep cycling it.
Seriously,
My sister left her car door open, and I COULD NOT get her car started. I hooked up alligator cables and everything. The battery just died (it was somewhat old as well).
mikec
about 1 year ago
In reply to computoman:
"This is mine after it died." How many times have we heard this.... Just kidding.
Patrick had that external battery a while. He showed it on DL.TV so it probably died of old age and not from Patrick's messing with it.










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