Control Your PC From Anywhere!
Monday, June 1st, 2009 running time 26:18
Summer roadtrip season is here, but you don't have to leave your desktop, or its contents, at home or work while you travel: it's all about remote access tools, from monthly fee to VNC!
Get to your home PC when you're on vacation, whether to download copies of the baby pixs, some fresh music, or upload a bunch of pictures you want off your camera!
Bypass network blocks at the office so you can run Twitter or browse to any website!
Fix Dad's PC... even when it's three states away!
Call us enthusiastic, but we're all about setting up remote access using remote control software on this episode of Systm!
There are a number of ways to do this... commercial tools, open source tools like VNC, and even something that Microsoft already stuffed inside some versions Windows XP, Vista and 7.
This is different from DynDNS , walked you through a few months ago... that allows you to find your home server no matter what IP address your ISP assigns you. Many of the services we're talking about today already have this ability built in.
There are tons of commercial applications to do this. They usually charge a monthly fee, but can save you lots of work setting things up. We talk the following applications, and tell you which ones are the best deal and why:
pcAnywhere GoToMyPC.com LogMeIn.com
We also walk you through setting up free tools, such as the Remote Desktop Connection tool that have been built into many versions of Windows since XP.
That includes the basics of port forwarding, which you'll need to set up in your router for most DIY remote connection tools.
Finally, we get our geek on and walk you thru setting up VNC , aka Virtual Network Computing on your machine.
On Windows, we like UltraVNC the best.... you can use it via a remote viewer, or any browser that has Java installed.
Want to get even more geeky? Try setting up VNC viewers that run on your iPhone or Android powered phone!
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operating system
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joomla
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open source
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operating system
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15:02, 15:02
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" Keep your home PC when you're on vacation bypass network blocked at the office fix dad's PC for me anywhere we're all about set up remote control software on this episode of systm. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Godaddy.com. And Netflix. What the system up Patrick Norton and Roger Chang whether prevalent are thinking about a PC it's far away or maybe. Bypassing the network blocks in your office you know like accessing Gmail or Twitter from work. 31 upload the pics or video from your camera from any Internet cafe you can go to. How else can view them."
" Remote connection well you can download stuff from home PC or rather download stuff off the web. And of course if you have stuff on mind that say. Oh I forgot important files like documentation and the presentation. Big presentation you know big you know passport idea what it ready to get sent in to my home PCI can then. But it remotely. And that get it on or download it directly yeah transcripts direct directly would be -- and if you don't want to go Modesto. The well if you wanted to -- prepared to to great way to kind of -- but you. You would want -- has records but this state you live in a very inconvenient location around this it's a way. You could remotely access to machine -- say. There -- issues with that you could probably help mitigate some of the issues. It can confuse."
" This is different from India and ask which we talked you through a few months ago allows you to find your home server no matter what IP address your IP assigned -- you. Maybe -- services we're talking about today have this ability built in. Others -- benefit from working together with -- to your home PC. You haven't seen you can find that episode revision3.com. Slash system's last Indian ass. Now remote controls off for only goodness yes yeah. If you haven't yet there are tons a commercial applications peace meaning where's the classic from Symantec. You applications like that run locally on your PC others such as go to my PC dot com. Or web based PC anywhere pre bomb proof cost 200 bucks to see which sounds like a lot she realized that one this is a corporate tool that offers pretty crazy security support. Smart cards multiple authentication tools management of multiple sessions at the same time and the ability administered clinics OS-X. And windows machines from your PC."
" And to the web based applications like go to my PC dot com cost about twenty bucks a month the 108 dollars you think it might issues pretty bomb group is pretty bomb -- well I've used it it's actually very useful. Of course the only really big issues and of course this costs now the services like LogMeIn actually do offer a free. Account but that's very limited and that's usually one client in the government. Machine with exit -- you reliable class but its its its remote access -- that -- can't do the older file transfer tools and pays but for twenty bucks a month 1975 a month for the pro version. You file transfers remote -- pretty pretty much the full. Package for up to five."
" Piece he should get a small business that can be a great deal noble and an additional. That's the place where the commercial ones especially. Go to my PC log in dot com. Are fantastic is what they want to access your work PC. And you walk up your rights humanitarian and say hey can you open up port yadda yadda yadda pop up ports in the second. And your IT guys you look at you like -- on crack the nice thing about these commercially available pools is they will -- the roof for you they'll give you all the weird security connections in the office satellite acts -- your PC from anywhere. Without really thinking about it which you're probably not gonna be able to view a much here IT manager work."
" Again the great thing about the services is they essentially going to run a middleman server in between where the client and leave the room. Remote machine connected as you don't have to worry about hard right he's you don't have been -- that -- block all you have to know Joe's account. And then this server itself from the service like -- but actually find in connecting to the appropriate machine. A running log in right now I'm -- in my work."
" Machine which is what's really funny about that is inside our our network as the -- security setup between this office and the other office. We can't even directly connect to that machine using -- server. So you know it it it may sound silly but these tools can -- really make it super simple remotely access machine. When we come back we'll be getting a little more DIY with some free tools -- which is probably already installed in your PC."
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" So. There actually are some restrictions on which windows machines because like XP Vista and said."
" And all might have remote desktop connection built. Yes so when windows Microsoft developed windows but he imagined a lot of people would kind of remote into. Either office or off location site now the thing is. If you want to have a machine that you can actually access remotely either need to have just pro or XP pro. So you need the pro version you can access it from either machine that's running home or pro but if you want the machine that you want to. This access to be accessible you need I have. XP pro or just approach belt line. You cannot use you can't do that with you can use third party applications do that but with the in built schools -- to Croat for a moment Vista. Now it's a very simple process. For -- she wanted to use tennis that the remote machine first. That's really simple -- have to do is right click on my computers and -- properties. Now if you're fifty want to click on advanced settings and you come up with system properties if you're running XP this when -- should pop up automatically. -- had that says remote. Click on remote and select. If you want remote assistance check that. And remote this there's a difference between assistants and desktop I want to get too far into it. Suffice it to say remote desktop it gives you more options and -- more dangerous too if you don't want people just go -- and -- Willy Nilly around the innards of your beloved machine. Cracked -- paper. That stock they can put it. Cricket option and you just pick one allow connections from computers running any version remote desktop. Less secure but it does ensure that people -- running an early version of windows like 2000 can access your machine. And that she want to basically select users. That's by default the admin users. History. Pullout if you have any additional users feel like I have Patrick or Veronica or David. As additional people on my machine I can add them as well but since I'm the only one who freaking caters you can and -- you -- You know at the end that acts as your machine you're gonna have would have to separate account for you and I really don't think it would be that -- It still rebuke -- view icons again. Now if you -- the defaults installation. Remote desktop connection will be located under programs and accessories and you theory here remote desktop connection. Click on that. And it's like the PC now the key thing is that you can need to be on the same network so. Often times you might need to tunnel in the or if who have a hard IP to your machine and this is where the heart it becomes it reckoning needed in order that -- that -- In this case of from the same network they can just put the computer name. Quick connect. Before password. Such an important thing you need to have it password login. For the remote machine. So if you've been getting by with you know auto -- not a log -- but no password and just upstream and not gonna work you need deficit -- need to set -- password. Sue. In the password. That -- okay. Well things work. I should be yet I am my other desktop you can see because there's little widgets from windows that I'm logging into windows seven machine. Particular -- all the folders here it -- close it's a little slow. Even over a network where we're just you know that we feet apart. Big sisters a lot of it -- to crunch the Maurer option. It is basically you know snapping pictures of your screen shipping them to you over the Internet and allowing you to. To use them so there's a lag time basically between when you click on something and drag something when it moves most that's and you know you. Another very important thing to notice about this is if you're gonna do things like watch video or you expect to browse the web. You can do that if you don't mind watching video every fifteen frames and this could be very Saturday the more stuff if you add the more -- bog down your mileage may vary depending on the connection I think that and you can do everything that you normally doing from. Your machine. Including you know I did mention your excellent so we can go to Revision 3. Slash system. This -- correctly. And it will. My goodness of the scruffy generally. Use."
" Now if you're at home run of the firewall if you got like home routers you are running a firewall this is a pretty good times are talking about opening ports when your browser like port 339. Which the one associated with remote desktop connections. In Wikipedia he's a port is an application specific process specifics offer -- serving as a communications that point. He's -- transport layer protocols theater protocols which is transmission control protocol that's PCP. Worked user data -- protocol UDP specific port is identified by its number coming up -- the port number the IP address associated with the protocol used for communications. --"
" What talking about a movie and my other you know. The -- that matters is funny lot aren't mind. It's a lot like the old CB radios that people you -- people still use. And you that you. You need to be on the same channel someone guys on channels that we need to be on -- in order to converse the same way you need to be on the same port. That the remote machine needs to log in on these -- able."
" And yet I mean basically they've -- the -- the apartment number in very large apartment building the IP addresses the brick buildings address application not on a port to do business for the particular application ports the numbered zero through 65535. Meteor says you've common services port easy CTP port 443 CC PUS to secure HTTP. Stuff like that these are the well known ports which -- from 02023. You final list of them and I -- a dot org slash assignments last port dashed numbers. Basically you need to open up. Up port in the firewall it's a door through the firewall for applications. And most of should be closed by default on routers basically keep evil Internet measles from -- your home network. Yet more especially more secure a software based firewalls right if you do like the super security -- everything except web. -- city and port 8080 Soviet bloc and even 21 which is ftp they're locked down a bunch of stuff. Yet and that's what's -- about when you when you talk about stuff like you know go to might be easier LogMeIn they generally shove everything over port eighty masquerading SE TTP traffic and they do that basically it through firewalls. In the case of your routers you need you would either. Go to that basically the will be a port forwarding section you'll identified individual port you'd type that port -- an individual. IP address in your home network that but it's gonna vary with every single different routers out there we're gonna have the -- you could Emanuel."
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" Get it had or geeky can set -- the NC in your home system PNC AK virtual network computing uses the RB approval what you control remote assistance. From your monitor and keyboard its platform independent and it's very open source. You need to set up a -- server and your local machine and run it via C client on the machine you're working from out the booties or vice Versa if that machine that case you run that -- that client on your machine in the servers running on the machine want to control. By itself VPN is not secure you you know it's it's an eight character password which can be hammered by brute force attack someone hates you. And it's best to run it over VP and that's a virtual private network a lot of home routers and actually connect those or. SS -- is a secure shell connection or an X guys and on their -- right now. There are a ton of different versions of the NC is one of those things is just for that the universe real PNC tightly and steal from me and see. Are especially popular big chicken of the B and COS ten B and C. That we've played around about with -- PNC -- NC both of which you can run from a thumb drive if you need access to a bit Xbox go with tight if you need access to windows box use ultra for OS-X again try OS-X B and C particularly -- You can have. And see pit like here it's the particular. Anyway so what made it crude joke about it and anyway it could be cruel chickens. Via. Generally speaking. As these become as the -- Candice this titans of the four become narrower you can get a deeper richer feature set for particular operating system percent of operating systems. If for example it -- BNC is great if you're only running windows if you're not running windows the only way you're gonna access that is basically through a job can decorate browser any job connection so there's not like you can't widen in Alter VNC server on your OS-X bucks -- running emulation software and that's just more complicated that we want to get into. But since most of Europe there are running windows we're part of -- B and C because it's especially good on windows. You needed at both ends meet the server -- on the machine when access and the viewer on the machine you're working on conveniently you can install both of them. And what basically with the same download it takes a few seconds. Dislike about windows one place you may want to make a change if this is the machine you were only going to be."
" Accessing and -- never going to access other machines from just installed the server I just gonna insult both the server. And the viewer on every machine just remember if you run the server you install it as a service it's gonna run every time you start this machine so watch out for that. So we hope to be and he's been -- download. -- as yet you're gonna need that for this particular version. Hit next. And okay so registering ultra VNC as a system service that means every time this computer starts ultra B and C will start. So if this is a machine it's running at home like your home server you're right and on Buena Vista or seven or XP or whatever it is. And you always want to be able to tunnel into using -- and CV you should check this box otherwise leave it unchecked."
" Next. Click install button in the program should install one can only hope when it's done installing it should be installed. Days ago. The next. This. As you can see nothing has changed it. Computer looks the same."
" So you go into the if you click the auto start restarted automatically distribute -- DNC box you can choose between launching the server in the viewer in this case -- server. This is the big ugly page most of this you don't have to pay attention to you except one really critical parts. The DNC password you have two sets. If you want to actually be able to log in to this server if you do not set it password. You will not be able to access that the MS log in. Add an additional layer of security so that some if someone actually figures out your B and C password believed to have your Microsoft wanted to get on the machine. Except exactly connection would be pretty normal because you actually need to accept the connection to log into it. Enabling the Java -- if you want people like you'd be able to access this from a browser which is how you access it remotely or from things like PCR about a Macintosh or Linux system. You're gonna need to leave be an able job if you are connected. I pretty much. Leave the rest of this untouched hit okay and when you hit OK actually apply hit OK it will launch the server."
" The server since the background as a web server do which is pretty much absolutely nothing."
" So to access your VNT server you're gonna launch the -- and C viewer. Gonna type in the IP address of the system you're connecting to sort of our internal ones -- the quick options to auto. Especially since I don't think I'm ever gonna have access to a sustained. Upload speed from my home network of two megabytes per second -- auto here and connect. And our password. And looked at that that's the other machine we have inside of here and of course like includes things house. Can run Mozilla can get things running in there if I wanna do file transfer -- this icon up here -- go to file transfer and its caliper and ftp program. Go for desktop here -- desktop here. And select something. And move it back and forth."
" Yeah I would back and forth. -- B -- from a non windows machine or if you don't have access to the viewer. Open up browser window need Java installed in your machine had a job installed this is gonna work. Typing in the IP address Colin -- 5800. Specify. The ports it's not as pretty it runs a little bit slower than the client but it will work anywhere you have a browser."
" News you can relive that he should. And just run it's a way Java chip type in the password. They want."
" And look at that and you so that your file transfer in the ability to refresh the page and he's. Controlling the system remotely and today it's amazing it's like them remotely controlling and other computer. Look there's a clip board you can come east image this is running 256 colors Walt Rogers getting -- six camp I think it's that is pretty. It's not we're gonna take -- to thank one of our sponsors. --"
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" Aren't so there's also thumb drive versions of Alter me in C tight he would see and the court DNC is interoperable bunch of across most platform which means you get some really NRC simply VNC. Running off your cellphones he can run a -- the -- Indians young iPhone Android. Has V and see you were anxious to lot of stuff can play around with on the Kelly -- it being a little like you weird stuff on our system."
" Home over it right. Granted the experience to probably be a lot less. But in a lightweight here and pinch and you definitely need to say oh my -- it -- court filing need to get it says right now it."
" And it's also if you're creepy or you wanna keep camp to which children are doing other computers you could run them VNC server in the background and see what people are doing whenever there basically playing on the machines. On the flip side is something to watch out for if somebody is running a B -- C server on your machine. They can pretty much check in and you that's what most of the NT servers with -- as long in the pop up a little icon -- box in the corner that says solids go. These acts are basically this is this machine being accessed remotely generally know who is accessing it. And I could be a good thing to watch out for you know just to note that people can. Remotely access your system so you know a case like. You're mr. dad's system on the website and also do things like blogging your dad's system that night moved friendly icons or Toledo bunches your files."
" It's like active in my own computer work. Are right in -- last companies. Messed around with our machines all the time yet but it it was more for -- keyword nothing nefarious but it just like it you actually did he do it all my stuff. I'm my own personal laptop."
" Just in case as always the links to everything we've talked about this episode are available for your -- In the showed -- we hope you've got some ideas so if you're. Your on the summer vacation if you're traveling for work if you want to be able access the work machine from anywhere these are all ideas that help you set that up. Now if you haven't seen it isn't eighty's cult film -- feel lucky you'll love this show taped behind the scenes a pretty much every aspect of making films each episode covers different subject. Special effects -- your -- your films. And these guys that are actually what we're -- yet I. I am and the first episode actually depict the classic Star -- like paper versus -- Believe me you could argue that it is cool but it off of all -- It's something that everything by giving -- to check out there right every Thursday at revision3.com. Last no right speaking of geeks getting this thing on. -- Wednesday and Thursday announcement previewing new games and the people who actually make the -- June 2. Go to revision3.com. Slash. -- don't forget if it's the -- Revision 3 com slash forum or older episodes including that upset about dynamic you -- didn't you ask revision3.com. Slash system. I'm Patrick Norton whenever -- see you next."
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" Keep your home PC when you're on vacation bypass network blocked at the office fix dad's PC for me anywhere we're all about set up remote control software on this episode of systm. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Godaddy.com. And Netflix. What the system up Patrick Norton and Roger Chang whether prevalent are thinking about a PC it's far away or maybe. Bypassing the network blocks in your office you know like accessing Gmail or Twitter from work. 31 upload the pics or video from your camera from any Internet cafe you can go to. How else can view them."
" Remote connection well you can download stuff from home PC or rather download stuff off the web. And of course if you have stuff on mind that say. Oh I forgot important files like documentation and the presentation. Big presentation you know big you know passport idea what it ready to get sent in to my home PCI can then. But it remotely. And that get it on or download it directly yeah transcripts direct directly would be -- and if you don't want to go Modesto. The well if you wanted to -- prepared to to great way to kind of -- but you. You would want -- has records but this state you live in a very inconvenient location around this it's a way. You could remotely access to machine -- say. There -- issues with that you could probably help mitigate some of the issues. It can confuse."
" This is different from India and ask which we talked you through a few months ago allows you to find your home server no matter what IP address your IP assigned -- you. Maybe -- services we're talking about today have this ability built in. Others -- benefit from working together with -- to your home PC. You haven't seen you can find that episode revision3.com. Slash system's last Indian ass. Now remote controls off for only goodness yes yeah. If you haven't yet there are tons a commercial applications peace meaning where's the classic from Symantec. You applications like that run locally on your PC others such as go to my PC dot com. Or web based PC anywhere pre bomb proof cost 200 bucks to see which sounds like a lot she realized that one this is a corporate tool that offers pretty crazy security support. Smart cards multiple authentication tools management of multiple sessions at the same time and the ability administered clinics OS-X. And windows machines from your PC."
" And to the web based applications like go to my PC dot com cost about twenty bucks a month the 108 dollars you think it might issues pretty bomb group is pretty bomb -- well I've used it it's actually very useful. Of course the only really big issues and of course this costs now the services like LogMeIn actually do offer a free. Account but that's very limited and that's usually one client in the government. Machine with exit -- you reliable class but its its its remote access -- that -- can't do the older file transfer tools and pays but for twenty bucks a month 1975 a month for the pro version. You file transfers remote -- pretty pretty much the full. Package for up to five."
" Piece he should get a small business that can be a great deal noble and an additional. That's the place where the commercial ones especially. Go to my PC log in dot com. Are fantastic is what they want to access your work PC. And you walk up your rights humanitarian and say hey can you open up port yadda yadda yadda pop up ports in the second. And your IT guys you look at you like -- on crack the nice thing about these commercially available pools is they will -- the roof for you they'll give you all the weird security connections in the office satellite acts -- your PC from anywhere. Without really thinking about it which you're probably not gonna be able to view a much here IT manager work."
" Again the great thing about the services is they essentially going to run a middleman server in between where the client and leave the room. Remote machine connected as you don't have to worry about hard right he's you don't have been -- that -- block all you have to know Joe's account. And then this server itself from the service like -- but actually find in connecting to the appropriate machine. A running log in right now I'm -- in my work."
" Machine which is what's really funny about that is inside our our network as the -- security setup between this office and the other office. We can't even directly connect to that machine using -- server. So you know it it it may sound silly but these tools can -- really make it super simple remotely access machine. When we come back we'll be getting a little more DIY with some free tools -- which is probably already installed in your PC."
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" So. There actually are some restrictions on which windows machines because like XP Vista and said."
" And all might have remote desktop connection built. Yes so when windows Microsoft developed windows but he imagined a lot of people would kind of remote into. Either office or off location site now the thing is. If you want to have a machine that you can actually access remotely either need to have just pro or XP pro. So you need the pro version you can access it from either machine that's running home or pro but if you want the machine that you want to. This access to be accessible you need I have. XP pro or just approach belt line. You cannot use you can't do that with you can use third party applications do that but with the in built schools -- to Croat for a moment Vista. Now it's a very simple process. For -- she wanted to use tennis that the remote machine first. That's really simple -- have to do is right click on my computers and -- properties. Now if you're fifty want to click on advanced settings and you come up with system properties if you're running XP this when -- should pop up automatically. -- had that says remote. Click on remote and select. If you want remote assistance check that. And remote this there's a difference between assistants and desktop I want to get too far into it. Suffice it to say remote desktop it gives you more options and -- more dangerous too if you don't want people just go -- and -- Willy Nilly around the innards of your beloved machine. Cracked -- paper. That stock they can put it. Cricket option and you just pick one allow connections from computers running any version remote desktop. Less secure but it does ensure that people -- running an early version of windows like 2000 can access your machine. And that she want to basically select users. That's by default the admin users. History. Pullout if you have any additional users feel like I have Patrick or Veronica or David. As additional people on my machine I can add them as well but since I'm the only one who freaking caters you can and -- you -- You know at the end that acts as your machine you're gonna have would have to separate account for you and I really don't think it would be that -- It still rebuke -- view icons again. Now if you -- the defaults installation. Remote desktop connection will be located under programs and accessories and you theory here remote desktop connection. Click on that. And it's like the PC now the key thing is that you can need to be on the same network so. Often times you might need to tunnel in the or if who have a hard IP to your machine and this is where the heart it becomes it reckoning needed in order that -- that -- In this case of from the same network they can just put the computer name. Quick connect. Before password. Such an important thing you need to have it password login. For the remote machine. So if you've been getting by with you know auto -- not a log -- but no password and just upstream and not gonna work you need deficit -- need to set -- password. Sue. In the password. That -- okay. Well things work. I should be yet I am my other desktop you can see because there's little widgets from windows that I'm logging into windows seven machine. Particular -- all the folders here it -- close it's a little slow. Even over a network where we're just you know that we feet apart. Big sisters a lot of it -- to crunch the Maurer option. It is basically you know snapping pictures of your screen shipping them to you over the Internet and allowing you to. To use them so there's a lag time basically between when you click on something and drag something when it moves most that's and you know you. Another very important thing to notice about this is if you're gonna do things like watch video or you expect to browse the web. You can do that if you don't mind watching video every fifteen frames and this could be very Saturday the more stuff if you add the more -- bog down your mileage may vary depending on the connection I think that and you can do everything that you normally doing from. Your machine. Including you know I did mention your excellent so we can go to Revision 3. Slash system. This -- correctly. And it will. My goodness of the scruffy generally. Use."
" Now if you're at home run of the firewall if you got like home routers you are running a firewall this is a pretty good times are talking about opening ports when your browser like port 339. Which the one associated with remote desktop connections. In Wikipedia he's a port is an application specific process specifics offer -- serving as a communications that point. He's -- transport layer protocols theater protocols which is transmission control protocol that's PCP. Worked user data -- protocol UDP specific port is identified by its number coming up -- the port number the IP address associated with the protocol used for communications. --"
" What talking about a movie and my other you know. The -- that matters is funny lot aren't mind. It's a lot like the old CB radios that people you -- people still use. And you that you. You need to be on the same channel someone guys on channels that we need to be on -- in order to converse the same way you need to be on the same port. That the remote machine needs to log in on these -- able."
" And yet I mean basically they've -- the -- the apartment number in very large apartment building the IP addresses the brick buildings address application not on a port to do business for the particular application ports the numbered zero through 65535. Meteor says you've common services port easy CTP port 443 CC PUS to secure HTTP. Stuff like that these are the well known ports which -- from 02023. You final list of them and I -- a dot org slash assignments last port dashed numbers. Basically you need to open up. Up port in the firewall it's a door through the firewall for applications. And most of should be closed by default on routers basically keep evil Internet measles from -- your home network. Yet more especially more secure a software based firewalls right if you do like the super security -- everything except web. -- city and port 8080 Soviet bloc and even 21 which is ftp they're locked down a bunch of stuff. Yet and that's what's -- about when you when you talk about stuff like you know go to might be easier LogMeIn they generally shove everything over port eighty masquerading SE TTP traffic and they do that basically it through firewalls. In the case of your routers you need you would either. Go to that basically the will be a port forwarding section you'll identified individual port you'd type that port -- an individual. IP address in your home network that but it's gonna vary with every single different routers out there we're gonna have the -- you could Emanuel."
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" Get it had or geeky can set -- the NC in your home system PNC AK virtual network computing uses the RB approval what you control remote assistance. From your monitor and keyboard its platform independent and it's very open source. You need to set up a -- server and your local machine and run it via C client on the machine you're working from out the booties or vice Versa if that machine that case you run that -- that client on your machine in the servers running on the machine want to control. By itself VPN is not secure you you know it's it's an eight character password which can be hammered by brute force attack someone hates you. And it's best to run it over VP and that's a virtual private network a lot of home routers and actually connect those or. SS -- is a secure shell connection or an X guys and on their -- right now. There are a ton of different versions of the NC is one of those things is just for that the universe real PNC tightly and steal from me and see. Are especially popular big chicken of the B and COS ten B and C. That we've played around about with -- PNC -- NC both of which you can run from a thumb drive if you need access to a bit Xbox go with tight if you need access to windows box use ultra for OS-X again try OS-X B and C particularly -- You can have. And see pit like here it's the particular. Anyway so what made it crude joke about it and anyway it could be cruel chickens. Via. Generally speaking. As these become as the -- Candice this titans of the four become narrower you can get a deeper richer feature set for particular operating system percent of operating systems. If for example it -- BNC is great if you're only running windows if you're not running windows the only way you're gonna access that is basically through a job can decorate browser any job connection so there's not like you can't widen in Alter VNC server on your OS-X bucks -- running emulation software and that's just more complicated that we want to get into. But since most of Europe there are running windows we're part of -- B and C because it's especially good on windows. You needed at both ends meet the server -- on the machine when access and the viewer on the machine you're working on conveniently you can install both of them. And what basically with the same download it takes a few seconds. Dislike about windows one place you may want to make a change if this is the machine you were only going to be."
" Accessing and -- never going to access other machines from just installed the server I just gonna insult both the server. And the viewer on every machine just remember if you run the server you install it as a service it's gonna run every time you start this machine so watch out for that. So we hope to be and he's been -- download. -- as yet you're gonna need that for this particular version. Hit next. And okay so registering ultra VNC as a system service that means every time this computer starts ultra B and C will start. So if this is a machine it's running at home like your home server you're right and on Buena Vista or seven or XP or whatever it is. And you always want to be able to tunnel into using -- and CV you should check this box otherwise leave it unchecked."
" Next. Click install button in the program should install one can only hope when it's done installing it should be installed. Days ago. The next. This. As you can see nothing has changed it. Computer looks the same."
" So you go into the if you click the auto start restarted automatically distribute -- DNC box you can choose between launching the server in the viewer in this case -- server. This is the big ugly page most of this you don't have to pay attention to you except one really critical parts. The DNC password you have two sets. If you want to actually be able to log in to this server if you do not set it password. You will not be able to access that the MS log in. Add an additional layer of security so that some if someone actually figures out your B and C password believed to have your Microsoft wanted to get on the machine. Except exactly connection would be pretty normal because you actually need to accept the connection to log into it. Enabling the Java -- if you want people like you'd be able to access this from a browser which is how you access it remotely or from things like PCR about a Macintosh or Linux system. You're gonna need to leave be an able job if you are connected. I pretty much. Leave the rest of this untouched hit okay and when you hit OK actually apply hit OK it will launch the server."
" The server since the background as a web server do which is pretty much absolutely nothing."
" So to access your VNT server you're gonna launch the -- and C viewer. Gonna type in the IP address of the system you're connecting to sort of our internal ones -- the quick options to auto. Especially since I don't think I'm ever gonna have access to a sustained. Upload speed from my home network of two megabytes per second -- auto here and connect. And our password. And looked at that that's the other machine we have inside of here and of course like includes things house. Can run Mozilla can get things running in there if I wanna do file transfer -- this icon up here -- go to file transfer and its caliper and ftp program. Go for desktop here -- desktop here. And select something. And move it back and forth."
" Yeah I would back and forth. -- B -- from a non windows machine or if you don't have access to the viewer. Open up browser window need Java installed in your machine had a job installed this is gonna work. Typing in the IP address Colin -- 5800. Specify. The ports it's not as pretty it runs a little bit slower than the client but it will work anywhere you have a browser."
" News you can relive that he should. And just run it's a way Java chip type in the password. They want."
" And look at that and you so that your file transfer in the ability to refresh the page and he's. Controlling the system remotely and today it's amazing it's like them remotely controlling and other computer. Look there's a clip board you can come east image this is running 256 colors Walt Rogers getting -- six camp I think it's that is pretty. It's not we're gonna take -- to thank one of our sponsors. --"
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" Aren't so there's also thumb drive versions of Alter me in C tight he would see and the court DNC is interoperable bunch of across most platform which means you get some really NRC simply VNC. Running off your cellphones he can run a -- the -- Indians young iPhone Android. Has V and see you were anxious to lot of stuff can play around with on the Kelly -- it being a little like you weird stuff on our system."
" Home over it right. Granted the experience to probably be a lot less. But in a lightweight here and pinch and you definitely need to say oh my -- it -- court filing need to get it says right now it."
" And it's also if you're creepy or you wanna keep camp to which children are doing other computers you could run them VNC server in the background and see what people are doing whenever there basically playing on the machines. On the flip side is something to watch out for if somebody is running a B -- C server on your machine. They can pretty much check in and you that's what most of the NT servers with -- as long in the pop up a little icon -- box in the corner that says solids go. These acts are basically this is this machine being accessed remotely generally know who is accessing it. And I could be a good thing to watch out for you know just to note that people can. Remotely access your system so you know a case like. You're mr. dad's system on the website and also do things like blogging your dad's system that night moved friendly icons or Toledo bunches your files."
" It's like active in my own computer work. Are right in -- last companies. Messed around with our machines all the time yet but it it was more for -- keyword nothing nefarious but it just like it you actually did he do it all my stuff. I'm my own personal laptop."
" Just in case as always the links to everything we've talked about this episode are available for your -- In the showed -- we hope you've got some ideas so if you're. Your on the summer vacation if you're traveling for work if you want to be able access the work machine from anywhere these are all ideas that help you set that up. Now if you haven't seen it isn't eighty's cult film -- feel lucky you'll love this show taped behind the scenes a pretty much every aspect of making films each episode covers different subject. Special effects -- your -- your films. And these guys that are actually what we're -- yet I. I am and the first episode actually depict the classic Star -- like paper versus -- Believe me you could argue that it is cool but it off of all -- It's something that everything by giving -- to check out there right every Thursday at revision3.com. Last no right speaking of geeks getting this thing on. -- Wednesday and Thursday announcement previewing new games and the people who actually make the -- June 2. Go to revision3.com. Slash. -- don't forget if it's the -- Revision 3 com slash forum or older episodes including that upset about dynamic you -- didn't you ask revision3.com. Slash system. I'm Patrick Norton whenever -- see you next."
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Started discussion: June 1, 2009 @ 7:45pm GMT
Episode 106 - Control Your PC From Anywhere! [Discussion]
Summer roadtrip season is here, but you don't have to leave your desktop, or its contents, at home or work while you travel: it's all about remote access tools, from monthly fee to VNC!
Watch or download this episode here
computoman
5 months ago
Actually I think that is an excellant subject. I just open a random port (via port forwarding) for an ssh connection on the router with ddns support, then use ssh on linux or osx and putty on windows. Works just fine. With linux, I can even run gui apps from the server. I prefer freenx/ns over vnc. Oops, I just realized I missed the show.
must_comment
5 months ago
Thanks for covering this and for reviewing multiple solutions. This was a big help and a great surprise.
davmoo
5 months ago
I can gleefully vouch for LogMeIn. Fantastic product. Easy to install, and even a total tech moron can run it. And we don't have to screw with ports. I don't have to spend a lot of time training people how to use it, and that makes for more efficient use of my time and their money. I use both the free version and the paid version on an almost daily basis.
The only slip Pat made when talking about it, and I think he corrected himself, is yes you can have multiple machines on your account with the free version. My free account has 37 machines attached to it as of this morning.
One thing though that I think should have been mentioned in the show. When talking about how to get around your employer's network restrictions, one should also be warned to make sure what your employer's policy is on that if you're caught. I've worked for several military contractors where bypassing the network filters will get you escorted out the door and to the unemployment line by armed security guards. And depending on the contractor's policy and exactly what they do and who they do it for, it can also get you an all expenses paid vacation at the Gray Bar Motel.
And I don't know what Roger was drinking in those outtakes...but dammit I want a bottle!! :D
Oh, those of you who bitch about the software install shows...I guess you all miss the occasions where Patrick states that those tend to be their most popular episodes.
The only slip Pat made when talking about it, and I think he corrected himself, is yes you can have multiple machines on your account with the free version. My free account has 37 machines attached to it as of this morning.
One thing though that I think should have been mentioned in the show. When talking about how to get around your employer's network restrictions, one should also be warned to make sure what your employer's policy is on that if you're caught. I've worked for several military contractors where bypassing the network filters will get you escorted out the door and to the unemployment line by armed security guards. And depending on the contractor's policy and exactly what they do and who they do it for, it can also get you an all expenses paid vacation at the Gray Bar Motel.
And I don't know what Roger was drinking in those outtakes...but dammit I want a bottle!! :D
Oh, those of you who bitch about the software install shows...I guess you all miss the occasions where Patrick states that those tend to be their most popular episodes.
haku
5 months ago
In reply to davmoo:
Oh, those of you who bitch about the software install shows...I guess you all miss the occasions where Patrick states that those tend to be their most popular episodes.
It was the DIY & buiilding interesting stuff that Systm's own show description makes out to be and is what attracted me to watching the show on a regular basis since episde 61, so of course I'm gonna get pissed off with these software install shows because that's not what it says on the Systm 'tin'.
The software install shows attract high ratings because they're aimed at every schmo who wants to to a bit more with their PC than wordprocess/browse the web/listen to music/watch YouTube, and there's a lot more of those out there than the ones who want to further their knowedge of DIY, (hardware) hacking & building stuff which IMHO is far more interesting than installing a piece of software.
This kind of stuff should be on Tekzilla, oh wait, it was on Tekzilla last August: Tekzilla Episode 46: Run a PC Remotely, N95 or iPhone 3G, RSS Feeds on your Cellphone, Bad Ass Games for the Gaming PC.
kiwifrog
5 months ago
In reply to haku:
It was the DIY & buiilding interesting stuff that Systm's own show description makes out to be and is what attracted me to watching the show on a regular basis since episde 61, so of course I'm gonna get pissed off with these software install shows because that's not what it says on the Systm 'tin'.
The software install shows attract high ratings because they're aimed at every schmo who wants to to a bit more with their PC than wordprocess/browse the web/listen to music/watch YouTube, and there's a lot more of those out there than the ones who want to further their knowedge of DIY, (hardware) hacking & building stuff which IMHO is far more interesting than installing a piece of software.
This kind of stuff should be on Tekzilla, oh wait, it was on Tekzilla last August: Tekzilla Episode 46: Run a PC Remotely, N95 or iPhone 3G, RSS Feeds on your Cellphone, Bad Ass Games for the Gaming PC.
The software install shows attract high ratings because they're aimed at every schmo who wants to to a bit more with their PC than wordprocess/browse the web/listen to music/watch YouTube, and there's a lot more of those out there than the ones who want to further their knowedge of DIY, (hardware) hacking & building stuff which IMHO is far more interesting than installing a piece of software.
This kind of stuff should be on Tekzilla, oh wait, it was on Tekzilla last August: Tekzilla Episode 46: Run a PC Remotely, N95 or iPhone 3G, RSS Feeds on your Cellphone, Bad Ass Games for the Gaming PC.
I second that, well said Haku. I will add however, software show are a lazy excuse for a ratings grab, anyone can jump on a wiki site and then make a video about what they read and any search for the given subject will lead people to you show hence the numbers.
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fishtoprecords
5 months ago
While this was yet another software install show, it was better than most. At least it talked lightly about some technical stuff, ports, etc.
Guytheninja
5 months ago
This show was great! I like UltraVNC; its far more convenient than a KVM switch (as far as I'm concerned).
Also, I loved the out-takes. What kind of pills are Roger and Patrick poppin? :D :D
Also, I loved the out-takes. What kind of pills are Roger and Patrick poppin? :D :D











Ten out of ten for the microcontroller & robotics episodes but minus several million for the software installs.
P.S. sorry about the topic creation/deletion mixup