" Yeah."

" a freak. -- of that the system has brought you by HP media smart connect. GoDaddy. And Netflix. All right folks there -- pretty well you know what we're gonna talk a little bit more about water cooling are super going episode last week to car radiator and more real happy. With the results and you guys had a bunch of ideas email me at about your questions and some highly inaccurate information and a couple cases we're gonna talk about all that. We're gonna see if we get lower though processor tabs on this episode of system."

" The last -- system we ventured out a little bit of over the top water cooling. Bolting a radiator from a car on work -- after Iraq would be easier in place to be for three year equal master copy eighty insurgent lower processor temperatures. Did it work -- her that no it actually raise temperatures a couple of degrees. And actually it was almost exactly the same temperature as the super quiet solvency and he has 9000 air cooler we use as a baseline a couple of degrees higher than -- and ice factory. We talk about 43 to 45 degrees centigrade. And a whole lot of work for absolutely no reduction temperatures. That are well and possibly a more efficient water block will be necessary or attempts. So we started searching on Google for water block views and discovered a prime online retailer warm -- here is located pretty close to us. About an hour south of San Francisco San Jose California. It's called -- that -- and quite frankly we wish we found that the first we're searching for water -- It's the kind of place where there's a monster water cooled system in the lobby with a case pathetic recycled US Postal Service boxes Trace stylus. -- the water cooling and there are quite generous with the info on the paper products. Which fortunately jive and a lot of the reviews I've read unfortunately there are out of stock on the top rated. -- universal CPU water. They can't they'll have a block in -- read some glowing reviews. CPU water block obscene price 65 dollars. And like confusion VT and the case of green -- that happens inlets and outlets but it has radically different heat sink design eight quote."

" For and I can't open design that the jet plate from water acceleration and a thin copper race is superior heat transfer. Thats just nuts on the product page suggested he came right. Quote in -- rather large pressure drop. But the block to perform well in conjunction with a public sufficiently high and pressure and what's head pressure and measure of the pumps vertical discharge ability or how well the pump deals with the distance from the lowest point your machine to the highest. Generally as you increase the number of people in the Los and I just point your system -- gallons per hour or flow. Which is to say picking the right -- is important high and water cooling system the group that shop suggested the -- might work even better than the fusion he had enough slow moving through it. So we were tempted to pick up the ridiculous 115 dollar mind CDC -- pump combo. And we say ridiculous you say with the kind of -- we -- the race cars and finely crafted tools. But the split and -- 655 delivers more flow of in the line is super quiet. In a bit less expensive 85 dollars alliance 150. So we picked one up our way out and we picked up one last thing currently at actress."

" As we still want to quite machine if possible we got for about appropriate by period slab of gel stuff vibration absorbs and blocks. This is a slab of latex free thermal plastic elastomer. No idea what that is but he can stretched 1200%. It feels when he is all -- and it does an amazing job nicely pump migration from your case. It is critical for keeping your case quiet because your case turns into a giant run head and basically magnifies itself from the pump. It directly -- upon the case."

" Let's think about the thankless sponsors and help us break we showed TU. This week XP media smart connect. If you're looking for great media center extended the invite all digital media no matter where there's your home -- so yeah. HP media market displays a single list of all digital media gathered for all the hard drives in your home network. Offering to a great extent of the windows media center -- The want to learn more than anything Microsoft is free webinar on July 8. You can take an -- on the especially your screen right there there's -- support us by supporting them."

" We thought we were dealt with water cooling for awhile but then the emails started four and a lot of etc. -- company and he -- the the test the water block. And -- giant. I don't think the stock pump will be strong enough to push the water back up program or through that size a radiator you're trying to there. A lot of folks thought the pump would work with the radio work just fine all -- he was on the cool from the processor to the top the radiator and it was rated for one point five years that's that is currently pushing the water through the radiators actually pulling at the bottom of Hillary or poignant now about every year through processor. It's hard to tell Sam says you definitely should have used a stronger pomp. The higher water pressure on the CPU block the better the heat transfer that a stronger company should have and a cooling. I'm. Yeah. I'm not so sure the physics works out on that one Sam. Maybe the stronger in the pump is in the more gallons per hour the pumpkin flow the more water passes over the water block in the more cool water that can draw heat from the water block. But I don't think the physical pressure on the block itself does much at all. And emails the recently probably didn't get some forty degree temperatures -- Giancarlo readers sent it would most likely be the built in home from the cooler master it. I -- have a high end up flow rate to pump all the extra water requirement the larger radiator you know what I tend to agree with."

" That that you don't want to look. At the inlet and outlet. Hoses on this -- there's just not a lot of room to -- water through there. So the contest what would happen if we had more -- more water running your original water block people that use with that 370 gallons per hour pumped through it. We're pretty sure that tiny openings and the fact there's a pump Hilton that Aqua water blocked blocked. Attempts from the same -- about the bigger competently it we didn't really feel like hacking around in the Applegate water block pop combo just to see if we keep up its efficiency. Policy lazy -- we and a -- want to block -- well. And that brings us to change the added information said the subject lines -- hard -- business he continues. Using the software that comes to motherboard to check temperatures with a new processor accurate you can speak and it's also a bad choice speak and digital ten. The motherboard software also gives look at you use something like courts can check that can't it reads content directly from each scored themselves centers on the motherboard. Are known to have quite different camps from one -- to a change. First of all. We're not comparing temperatures across different motherboard we were comparing once upon at least until at -- the motherboard out and we have not compared any of the original aces motherboard camps with the new Intel motherboard -- More importantly. The CPU. Listed in the motherboard monitor software and speed and basically senses in the motherboard actually read higher than the actual court's hands. Not lower frankly we find that conservative and we're generally all in favor of being conservative you're trying not to fry your motherboard. Second speak that less accurate court temperatures enhance its version four 32 in -- side by side which is exactly the same temperatures -- court and we very much like it or templates that he came back in the next twenty operating temperature for the CPU cores before -- shuts down Meltzer decides you know -- other companies stop. And I want to emphasize. We were using CPU camps on the scene motherboard to compare the quality of -- though frankly in the court would be -- the point so we'll try to -- those that future. Six."

" But think about the fact that one of our sponsors remember they help us keep bringing the show teach you its net flicks and there are spots of movie picks of the week. This week what are Roger K are religious favorites it's called short circuit. -- circuit is a classic eighties comedy about -- military robot Johnny five who you're. Accident of mother nature becomes a hit and run the way. As if it's captured reprogramming by the military -- learn more about being alive with the help of an animal lover step -- domestic support extraterrestrial. Featuring action counsel Steve Gutenberg and how he would typically. But I think yeah memorable voice of Johnny -- observed circuit is that great adventure and it's fun for young and old alike. Netflix dot com they've got short circuit at 89999. Other titles online including Blu-ray titles you probably can't find your local shop. -- considers all around the United States as the slavery happened -- Singleton Tuesday -- shipping both ways. -- no cost you planned start of four dollar and 99 cents. But your system you'll -- hooking up. You can get a free trial by signing up today www. Netflix dot com slash system that. That's why -- asked do you support us supporting. Us."

" There was also some confusion about the relationship between ambient temperature in the room and the temperatures here reached and a processor and -- it and I'm going to assume lots of people have emailed you about your show and Sunday evening complaint. Water cooling is a great political your processor but I think without added health he -- the temperature of the CPU can below the I'll be temperature of the room. We would have been thrilled I would have been tickled pink overjoyed and I think around the workshop of peak time anywhere near. You know temperature of the room. In the first episode we consistently got the machine again between forty to 45 degrees Celsius. That's 170 point 6215. Degrees Fahrenheit. The room temperature. About seventy degrees Fahrenheit ambient temperature not really be -- the room was considerably cooler than we ever got the processor. That is to say -- temperatures don't matter because the -- temperature of the room temperature definitely impact the performance of your cooling system. The room temperature goes up chances are your processor -- going to -- along with it. That also means need to be careful when you're comparing basically processor temperatures across different make sure you know what -- temperature was. That we won't be only got my -- loses some socks when you're actually comparing numbers taken in August it was a 105 degrees out roses. Numbers date of December when it was like 32 and maybe it was twenty degrees cooler inside your house. As it that it is a good job of explaining that we tested this car radiator company cooler in a host of configurations we have a number of emails like the ones from park. -- I think -- white people as much as Patrick wanted because the air would not be able to float near as much as the hold on that almost -- PC case. Through the radiator ninety degrees and I think the results would change. Well we actually tried the propagate car radiator combo with the without the side of the -- fan and with and without that parking callable and on and there was almost no change whatsoever. During a big loud fan on proper -- from 36 to forty degrees Celsius -- record or consistent 35 that there is six degrees all while prime 95 program both cores and a 100%. Removing the radiator from the side of the case didn't make a difference with their higher flow system -- at temperatures from 3536 degrees Celsius -- maddening side of the case. To a consistent 35 degrees Celsius about. While we actually -- sort of it after degree degree. So air -- really wasn't the issue over that. Finally cooling is important we use recorder and."

" Outside diameter happens. Inside diameter clear vinyl tubing for most of this project until we ran out had to swap in some five -- things outside diameter happens. He's here examiner -- to -- dam better right. -- check this out. The suction on our -- practically flat in the thin -- to me. That reduced flow big time and also -- processor -- attempts to 44 degrees centigrade over the 36 to forty degree -- we got -- fit well to me. Spending extra cash that they want to me if you're gonna use high flow --"

" All dollar fifty dollars all -- cooler game is 45 degrees Celsius tabs on our core two duo 4500 with an instance of prime 95 running on each core. During a 55 dollar used car radiator and electric -- along with a 130 dollars worth high flow water blocking -- along with eight -- three quarter -- I need vinyl to me at three dollars and fifty cents a foot that's twenty dollars total -- a statute 35 degrees centigrade so that's 213 dollars. Without the motherboard -- killed after -- accidents -- to do the math for you approximately 21 dollars and thirty cents -- degree we took off the processor temperature the -- of course is that -- 4500 is rated for 85 degrees centigrade for everything falls apart which means -- isn't purely an exercise in optimizing -- for over -- seeing this exactly how stupid we can get in the process of answering questions -- the new Intel motherboard along with a processor going back into my home -- home for project later on this year and to the guy that wrote in asking for the -- aces motherboard -- a wall decoration. We'll talk about six."

" Before we move on we want to take a moment to thank one of our sponsors. Godaddy.com. If you want to make an impact on line -- favor. And you'll with -- dot com they've got dot com names most dollar and 99 cents plus world plus -- and fast and easy website builders and quite a bit more. Now what tell your story to the world to a without any of the top level domain it's all about you. Land rush is only open until July 17 should the same domain you requested multiple times at auction will be held to claim that game so act now to create. A unique personalized based on the Internet with -- got me or any. -- save some cash entering code 61 that's SYS one when you check out and you'll save additional 10% off your entire order. Some restrictions applied to see the site for details you can get your piece of the Internet and GoDaddy got cop your favorite support costs by supporting them. So this. I hope you've enjoyed this episode of system I for 1 am not taking any. What are cooling devices in or outside of my keys anytime in the near future in fact I'm hoping next week -- me do something little summary an outdoors now. It was a favorite do not create -- in in your suggestions or questions your comments your project ideas. To systematic revision3.com. And as always you can check -- out the forms of revision3.com slash forum and remember that movie we mentioned earlier short circuit. Check it out. Watch it and have a -- set -- just you can talk about it let us know what you think and as always past episode archive to revision3.com. Slash system. So check those out of he had been -- like episode 54 with the car radiator will we started this debacle. Or are primer on water cooling -- which goes up in the show notes and hey. -- in San Francisco Bay Area he you'd get to the San Francisco Bay Area he had a cool project election off on system. If you get 12 as a favor making YouTube video and send this link to the YouTube video of your project. Our panel of experts just might get one of you to guest star on an upcoming episode of system we can't make you rich. We definitely need a little more famous. Big idea are much smaller ones do us a favor send them all into us put I want to be on the system. In the subject line -- your email until next time on Patrick Norton you've been watching systems animals you next week."

" Yeah."

" Yeah."

" a freak. -- of that the system has brought you by HP media smart connect. GoDaddy. And Netflix. All right folks there -- pretty well you know what we're gonna talk a little bit more about water cooling are super going episode last week to car radiator and more real happy. With the results and you guys had a bunch of ideas email me at about your questions and some highly inaccurate information and a couple cases we're gonna talk about all that. We're gonna see if we get lower though processor tabs on this episode of system."

" The last -- system we ventured out a little bit of over the top water cooling. Bolting a radiator from a car on work -- after Iraq would be easier in place to be for three year equal master copy eighty insurgent lower processor temperatures. Did it work -- her that no it actually raise temperatures a couple of degrees. And actually it was almost exactly the same temperature as the super quiet solvency and he has 9000 air cooler we use as a baseline a couple of degrees higher than -- and ice factory. We talk about 43 to 45 degrees centigrade. And a whole lot of work for absolutely no reduction temperatures. That are well and possibly a more efficient water block will be necessary or attempts. So we started searching on Google for water block views and discovered a prime online retailer warm -- here is located pretty close to us. About an hour south of San Francisco San Jose California. It's called -- that -- and quite frankly we wish we found that the first we're searching for water -- It's the kind of place where there's a monster water cooled system in the lobby with a case pathetic recycled US Postal Service boxes Trace stylus. -- the water cooling and there are quite generous with the info on the paper products. Which fortunately jive and a lot of the reviews I've read unfortunately there are out of stock on the top rated. -- universal CPU water. They can't they'll have a block in -- read some glowing reviews. CPU water block obscene price 65 dollars. And like confusion VT and the case of green -- that happens inlets and outlets but it has radically different heat sink design eight quote."

" For and I can't open design that the jet plate from water acceleration and a thin copper race is superior heat transfer. Thats just nuts on the product page suggested he came right. Quote in -- rather large pressure drop. But the block to perform well in conjunction with a public sufficiently high and pressure and what's head pressure and measure of the pumps vertical discharge ability or how well the pump deals with the distance from the lowest point your machine to the highest. Generally as you increase the number of people in the Los and I just point your system -- gallons per hour or flow. Which is to say picking the right -- is important high and water cooling system the group that shop suggested the -- might work even better than the fusion he had enough slow moving through it. So we were tempted to pick up the ridiculous 115 dollar mind CDC -- pump combo. And we say ridiculous you say with the kind of -- we -- the race cars and finely crafted tools. But the split and -- 655 delivers more flow of in the line is super quiet. In a bit less expensive 85 dollars alliance 150. So we picked one up our way out and we picked up one last thing currently at actress."

" As we still want to quite machine if possible we got for about appropriate by period slab of gel stuff vibration absorbs and blocks. This is a slab of latex free thermal plastic elastomer. No idea what that is but he can stretched 1200%. It feels when he is all -- and it does an amazing job nicely pump migration from your case. It is critical for keeping your case quiet because your case turns into a giant run head and basically magnifies itself from the pump. It directly -- upon the case."

" Let's think about the thankless sponsors and help us break we showed TU. This week XP media smart connect. If you're looking for great media center extended the invite all digital media no matter where there's your home -- so yeah. HP media market displays a single list of all digital media gathered for all the hard drives in your home network. Offering to a great extent of the windows media center -- The want to learn more than anything Microsoft is free webinar on July 8. You can take an -- on the especially your screen right there there's -- support us by supporting them."

" We thought we were dealt with water cooling for awhile but then the emails started four and a lot of etc. -- company and he -- the the test the water block. And -- giant. I don't think the stock pump will be strong enough to push the water back up program or through that size a radiator you're trying to there. A lot of folks thought the pump would work with the radio work just fine all -- he was on the cool from the processor to the top the radiator and it was rated for one point five years that's that is currently pushing the water through the radiators actually pulling at the bottom of Hillary or poignant now about every year through processor. It's hard to tell Sam says you definitely should have used a stronger pomp. The higher water pressure on the CPU block the better the heat transfer that a stronger company should have and a cooling. I'm. Yeah. I'm not so sure the physics works out on that one Sam. Maybe the stronger in the pump is in the more gallons per hour the pumpkin flow the more water passes over the water block in the more cool water that can draw heat from the water block. But I don't think the physical pressure on the block itself does much at all. And emails the recently probably didn't get some forty degree temperatures -- Giancarlo readers sent it would most likely be the built in home from the cooler master it. I -- have a high end up flow rate to pump all the extra water requirement the larger radiator you know what I tend to agree with."

" That that you don't want to look. At the inlet and outlet. Hoses on this -- there's just not a lot of room to -- water through there. So the contest what would happen if we had more -- more water running your original water block people that use with that 370 gallons per hour pumped through it. We're pretty sure that tiny openings and the fact there's a pump Hilton that Aqua water blocked blocked. Attempts from the same -- about the bigger competently it we didn't really feel like hacking around in the Applegate water block pop combo just to see if we keep up its efficiency. Policy lazy -- we and a -- want to block -- well. And that brings us to change the added information said the subject lines -- hard -- business he continues. Using the software that comes to motherboard to check temperatures with a new processor accurate you can speak and it's also a bad choice speak and digital ten. The motherboard software also gives look at you use something like courts can check that can't it reads content directly from each scored themselves centers on the motherboard. Are known to have quite different camps from one -- to a change. First of all. We're not comparing temperatures across different motherboard we were comparing once upon at least until at -- the motherboard out and we have not compared any of the original aces motherboard camps with the new Intel motherboard -- More importantly. The CPU. Listed in the motherboard monitor software and speed and basically senses in the motherboard actually read higher than the actual court's hands. Not lower frankly we find that conservative and we're generally all in favor of being conservative you're trying not to fry your motherboard. Second speak that less accurate court temperatures enhance its version four 32 in -- side by side which is exactly the same temperatures -- court and we very much like it or templates that he came back in the next twenty operating temperature for the CPU cores before -- shuts down Meltzer decides you know -- other companies stop. And I want to emphasize. We were using CPU camps on the scene motherboard to compare the quality of -- though frankly in the court would be -- the point so we'll try to -- those that future. Six."

" But think about the fact that one of our sponsors remember they help us keep bringing the show teach you its net flicks and there are spots of movie picks of the week. This week what are Roger K are religious favorites it's called short circuit. -- circuit is a classic eighties comedy about -- military robot Johnny five who you're. Accident of mother nature becomes a hit and run the way. As if it's captured reprogramming by the military -- learn more about being alive with the help of an animal lover step -- domestic support extraterrestrial. Featuring action counsel Steve Gutenberg and how he would typically. But I think yeah memorable voice of Johnny -- observed circuit is that great adventure and it's fun for young and old alike. Netflix dot com they've got short circuit at 89999. Other titles online including Blu-ray titles you probably can't find your local shop. -- considers all around the United States as the slavery happened -- Singleton Tuesday -- shipping both ways. -- no cost you planned start of four dollar and 99 cents. But your system you'll -- hooking up. You can get a free trial by signing up today www. Netflix dot com slash system that. That's why -- asked do you support us supporting. Us."

" There was also some confusion about the relationship between ambient temperature in the room and the temperatures here reached and a processor and -- it and I'm going to assume lots of people have emailed you about your show and Sunday evening complaint. Water cooling is a great political your processor but I think without added health he -- the temperature of the CPU can below the I'll be temperature of the room. We would have been thrilled I would have been tickled pink overjoyed and I think around the workshop of peak time anywhere near. You know temperature of the room. In the first episode we consistently got the machine again between forty to 45 degrees Celsius. That's 170 point 6215. Degrees Fahrenheit. The room temperature. About seventy degrees Fahrenheit ambient temperature not really be -- the room was considerably cooler than we ever got the processor. That is to say -- temperatures don't matter because the -- temperature of the room temperature definitely impact the performance of your cooling system. The room temperature goes up chances are your processor -- going to -- along with it. That also means need to be careful when you're comparing basically processor temperatures across different make sure you know what -- temperature was. That we won't be only got my -- loses some socks when you're actually comparing numbers taken in August it was a 105 degrees out roses. Numbers date of December when it was like 32 and maybe it was twenty degrees cooler inside your house. As it that it is a good job of explaining that we tested this car radiator company cooler in a host of configurations we have a number of emails like the ones from park. -- I think -- white people as much as Patrick wanted because the air would not be able to float near as much as the hold on that almost -- PC case. Through the radiator ninety degrees and I think the results would change. Well we actually tried the propagate car radiator combo with the without the side of the -- fan and with and without that parking callable and on and there was almost no change whatsoever. During a big loud fan on proper -- from 36 to forty degrees Celsius -- record or consistent 35 that there is six degrees all while prime 95 program both cores and a 100%. Removing the radiator from the side of the case didn't make a difference with their higher flow system -- at temperatures from 3536 degrees Celsius -- maddening side of the case. To a consistent 35 degrees Celsius about. While we actually -- sort of it after degree degree. So air -- really wasn't the issue over that. Finally cooling is important we use recorder and."

" Outside diameter happens. Inside diameter clear vinyl tubing for most of this project until we ran out had to swap in some five -- things outside diameter happens. He's here examiner -- to -- dam better right. -- check this out. The suction on our -- practically flat in the thin -- to me. That reduced flow big time and also -- processor -- attempts to 44 degrees centigrade over the 36 to forty degree -- we got -- fit well to me. Spending extra cash that they want to me if you're gonna use high flow --"

" All dollar fifty dollars all -- cooler game is 45 degrees Celsius tabs on our core two duo 4500 with an instance of prime 95 running on each core. During a 55 dollar used car radiator and electric -- along with a 130 dollars worth high flow water blocking -- along with eight -- three quarter -- I need vinyl to me at three dollars and fifty cents a foot that's twenty dollars total -- a statute 35 degrees centigrade so that's 213 dollars. Without the motherboard -- killed after -- accidents -- to do the math for you approximately 21 dollars and thirty cents -- degree we took off the processor temperature the -- of course is that -- 4500 is rated for 85 degrees centigrade for everything falls apart which means -- isn't purely an exercise in optimizing -- for over -- seeing this exactly how stupid we can get in the process of answering questions -- the new Intel motherboard along with a processor going back into my home -- home for project later on this year and to the guy that wrote in asking for the -- aces motherboard -- a wall decoration. We'll talk about six."

" Before we move on we want to take a moment to thank one of our sponsors. Godaddy.com. If you want to make an impact on line -- favor. And you'll with -- dot com they've got dot com names most dollar and 99 cents plus world plus -- and fast and easy website builders and quite a bit more. Now what tell your story to the world to a without any of the top level domain it's all about you. Land rush is only open until July 17 should the same domain you requested multiple times at auction will be held to claim that game so act now to create. A unique personalized based on the Internet with -- got me or any. -- save some cash entering code 61 that's SYS one when you check out and you'll save additional 10% off your entire order. Some restrictions applied to see the site for details you can get your piece of the Internet and GoDaddy got cop your favorite support costs by supporting them. So this. I hope you've enjoyed this episode of system I for 1 am not taking any. What are cooling devices in or outside of my keys anytime in the near future in fact I'm hoping next week -- me do something little summary an outdoors now. It was a favorite do not create -- in in your suggestions or questions your comments your project ideas. To systematic revision3.com. And as always you can check -- out the forms of revision3.com slash forum and remember that movie we mentioned earlier short circuit. Check it out. Watch it and have a -- set -- just you can talk about it let us know what you think and as always past episode archive to revision3.com. Slash system. So check those out of he had been -- like episode 54 with the car radiator will we started this debacle. Or are primer on water cooling -- which goes up in the show notes and hey. -- in San Francisco Bay Area he you'd get to the San Francisco Bay Area he had a cool project election off on system. If you get 12 as a favor making YouTube video and send this link to the YouTube video of your project. Our panel of experts just might get one of you to guest star on an upcoming episode of system we can't make you rich. We definitely need a little more famous. Big idea are much smaller ones do us a favor send them all into us put I want to be on the system. In the subject line -- your email until next time on Patrick Norton you've been watching systems animals you next week."

" Yeah."