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Amps and Violence

Monday, October 1st, 2007 – running time 22:53
It was Taser week on YouTube, which inspired David and Patrick to look at the tech behind electroshock weapons, from cattle prods to Tasers. It's a good reminder that Amps kill, not Volts. PS - be careful when you fry foil with a DIY camera taser.

Discovery has shark week, sometime after that UF student gotta ... a quick search for "Taser on Youtube" turns up over 3000 videos. And enough questions about how tasers work floated thru email last week Producer Joey convinced us to talk about how electroshock weapons, aka Tasers, work. (BTW, Taser, much like Kleenex, is a trademark.)

The short version goes like this: depending on the model, a modern tazer fires a small pair of electrodes from 15-30 feet. They're wired to a power supply in the gun that sends 18-26 Watts thru the wires attached to the electrodes. This effectively jams your peripheral nervous systm (er, system) and causes your muscles to contract. You go fetal. The marketing material at Taser International calls it "Neuro-Muscular Incapacitation."

It's not about pain, though we understand it's rather unpleasant. ("Don't taze me bro" is a rather frightening video to watch.) This is about physically debilitating the suspect without shooting them or beating 'em with a PR-24... er, a night stick. Personally, we'll take being zapped over being shot. Mace might be better.

Avoiding any situation that might involve shooting, being zapped, maced or beaten sounds even better.

Some devices also offer a less powerful 'drive mode' that works muck like a hot shot or cattle prod: a pair of electrodes sends a high voltage low current jolt of electricity thru the skin. It hurts like heck, but you can keep moving.

We're pretty sure showing off the DIY camra-tazer wasn't our brightest act... we totally understand where Make magazine was coming from when they killed off a "lifter" project earlier this year due to safety concerns (Unsafe At Any Amperage, btw, is a great behind the scenes read, and Make rocks even harder than usual for posting the email thread that led to canceling the story.)

But, frankly, blowing holes in Aluminum foil is a pretty good way to suggest that playing with electroshock gadgetry can hurt... just because you can build it with $6 in parts doesn't mean it's a toy.

And if, like us, you like to crack things open and look inside, say, for example, a disposable camera or an old Mac, you should know that capacitors, the pointy end of the CRT/TV tube with all the wires can carry current even when they're not plugged in. Don't play with 'em if you don't know how to discharge them and handle them. Seriously. You can stop your heart.

Don't believe us, believe Ohio State's Physics Department: The Fatal Current is an excellent discussion of how a small amount of current can kill you. The The Physiological Effects of Electric Shock section is worth reading twice.

PS -- don't play with electricity while you're home alone: you can't dial 911 if you've managed to stop your heart.

PSPS -- If Law Enforcement points a Taser or a gun at you, do yourself a favor and do what they say.

Highlights
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" I'm Patrick Norton David Randolph and we have a rather interesting episode system for episode ninety -- talk about the technology behind some weapons. We should probably commonly referred to as a teaser. Now why would we be talking about these is this week of all weeks well. There's been a lot of videos and things like that out there on the web over the recent time -- is being used. -- Yeah for good from bad excessively. Well. Politically whatever you call it it's big it's kind -- we have got a lot of questions from you when we've got a lot of questions from outside -- or normal group of friends that are asking what exactly happens in the human body gets zapped by taser. Having a museum catastrophic ground is that there are people just don't really know what's going on."

" Well there's kind of a different -- modern. All across United States and a a cattle prod is essentially a long plastic stick with a couple electorates at the end about your batteries -- the capacitor so that when the context scanned the skin creates a complete circuit. And whatever is the other of the complete circuit which is hopefully -- But I did so cattle -- that was like a classic device for poking around large animals so they move away from the source of pay. -- officials some weapons are about pain or third of this than fifteen watts maybe eighteen volts are seeking goals. Fairly low voltage for the -- average extra mile bridge and what's what's. Stop or -- about low average. Electricity in case you hadn't been paying attention severely -- the system. We'll kill you. It's not so much the voltage that will kill you but the -- so not a lot of voltage or the truth is you take like 600 volts. Which sounds terrifying and believe me you been hit by three phase power yeah I kind of thing it it will send you the hospital at this -- of -- the average is extremely low it will -- a great deal of pain and discomfort. That's because your entire body is essentially an electrical a series of electrical circuits you have your economist nervous system so they just from your brain. Your spinal column and controls things that you know a mustard is that yogi -- give you -- you can't physically decrease your heart rate or. You know you're you can't physically control your lungs breathing pretzels involuntary -- that helps -- I'll -- there so what a stun weapons does is it actually impacts your. Peripheral nervous system the purple nervous system is the connection between your brain because your final holiday goes out and here. Muscles and because we controls your ability to -- muscles it's basically the electrical service to tell you always hot in Hertz or you know clinch this muscle and partners system we can control. Yes or they had to at least much easier to impact. So what additional -- does is you creates. You got your box there to cattle prod her little yellow box so much nine -- it. You touch someone -- essentially it's -- overrides the nervous system and in tells you this hurts. Does -- a better way. -- if you if you if you're living in the country and you've ever grabbed an electric fence by accident and you know what happens. Your muscles -- you feel pain shouldn't your arm this is generally speaking people don't like to have voltage roam through them. Let them. I think -- in the context of certain online web sites in which case it's a consensual thing between adult that's really be on the can of this particular episode system. Panasonic future so there you -- however. May week. Pointed towards our sister program act act act act and so -- most un weapons essentially does that affect your peripheral nervous system right so you know. Bad guys and what actually what they essentially are we talk of the battery -- got a couple these are mark collectors couples cruisers is you make of a physical contact. And the voltage runs through you and you would in theory go and run away and allow drug runaway importance and that's exactly right W you since you've all seen there's always -- it's a classic kind of like. You know -- Did there's always some sort of spy movies work there's like the you know the conspired to -- by somebody walks up behind him and presses it to their neck they dropped to the ground. Great don't you -- bad -- bad thing electricity can hurt you and and really interesting and neat ways."

" Angela candidate on YouTube where that group of friends are also know how."

" have to -- traffic in New York City but I gotta say a government board that he's my friends and certainly not on videotape. But yes it's kind of it's a kind of you know fascinating and disturbing to see how many videos are showing up on YouTube not not not in the jackass like hey let's go abuse ourselves but to me hey look I got videotape this guy being shocked and a you know pain and and and whatever you call us."

" They use force primary function but this is not. Correctly."

" Yeah well it basically the primary function of of a modern. Taser stun gun to -- an actual brand that's that's preferred by law enforcement everywhere. Used to debilitate an assailant and they were little bit differently. They can't work what they called drive mode which is. You know when you're in close contact and physically touch the sorrow quit poking you before you beat me yet or worse yeah. Yeah -- there officer Randolph fifty Ares. Which actually I'd like to point out if you happen to come into conflict of law enforcement whether -- campus police member of the FBI or anything in between. If somebody's gotta gun and a camp -- entities are just -- would they say because you're not gonna win the argument now and are gonna win the argument in court. So you may as well quietly goes to you can call bail Bondsman lawyers quickly as possible while the go to the hospital before going to jail before in the opportunity to call bail Bondsman -- lawyer. It's Carson's probably commands it is it's a tough call. I know people have been made to political rallies and they generally say it's unpleasant. And I know people have been teaser for fun on television shows and they say that's actually really unpleasant. The the interesting thing teaser anachronism and I'm gonna read this off the office script so don't mess it up to users mechanism for Thomas case -- selector rifle this is an obscure literary reference. From Arizona inventor Jack cover who invented the teaser in 1969. It -- for a science fiction that teenage adventure science fiction character called Tom swift great stuff you -- a kid. I mean if you got the other young can you know better woman. Young child adolescent literature this is good stuff fire -- how -- passenger exactly -- it's good stuff. It was little more advanced than the big brain serious and and the but what's interesting about taser is it's gotta Hutu card designed it looks like -- to -- weapon that the sensible gun being Jericho weapon but. There -- again a couple of electrodes the CO2 -- I hit the trigger by the CO2 charges. Fires. The electrodes out electrodes have little wires on the back from the go back of the -- where the electrical power resources. And are designed sort of stick in your clothing or your skin or -- you. And it runs a pretty hefty amount what trustees your system you're talking about 50000 volts maybe he wants to begin. Very low pampered -- 133 milligrams."

" How far away can that person actually."

" Be according to the teaser folks the M eighteen the advanced user weapon the current -- can -- about fifteen feet plus previous fifteen feet is a lot better than you know horror stories yeah. Editor -- yourself I'm gonna buy a teaser and the jocks on campus are never gonna. Let me again yourself that they were just brought him to leave the -- priority queues the other thing is like -- electrodes go -- dot. I want hone in and yet -- carcasses he yeah it's I'd -- that's my understanding you know it's not the way you know you can still you still have the thing in your hand you can -- people with it. These are not quite probable that if courage jock or there cranked out of their brains are there just really really angry have a high tolerance for pain -- what they called drives on mode is not considered nearly as effective. There's a big reason for that drives on motor traditional stun gun kind of note it's -- shocking news that out wow wow. The -- what it does when it says those electrodes and tetris is and it's the blowing it enough electricity through your system to override your peripheral nervous system and cause every muscle in your body to clutch. Tactics used to completely kind draw and contractor well with the what its first going to do is it's gonna -- you know. -- The electricity hits and every muscle in your -- is going to contract so basically means if you're running and you get hit. Yeah every muscle in your body's going to lock up. Yes and timbers the next thing it's been going through your head right before you hit the concrete high speed. If five they continue to apply electricity which they can do there's no kind of audio there's no stop dont give them more than Jews and it also like to say the law enforcement you don't feel like being threatened on behalf of anybody stupid enough to (%expletive) you often get k.'s -- Go easy on the -- Who we joke but again you know it this restaurant lethal weapon that it's a little scary -- if for no other reason in case somebody's. In the audience with a video camera videotaping the dog pile on the screaming kid going to -- he's negro. But what's interesting you know there's that these are folks that their fancy marking her -- electro muscular. Disruption. And in disruptions are really accurate -- is. You essentially all of your muscles -- and then if beyond just these occasional -- all your pasted into fetal. -- everything -- clash of just how does it can go and natural position for the human body that point he's he turned into a baby in the womb and you school lunch up. That makes you much more manageable."

" And this is kind of just literally all is doing this thing and whatever your body's telling you I'm gonna tell you ten times that 10000 times more."

" Yeah I like the the the marketing stuff from from. From the -- folks designed to stop even most -- aggressive focus combatants that's because it's not about pain is not about the assailants ability to tolerate pain is basically. This is biology -- run electricity through your system your entire body. Clinches you're done so grandma's gonna come from Rambo is not coming at me -- course probably -- gotten with a sniper rifle from a quarter mile away that's again another episode of systm -- never going to happen. Yeah neuro muscular in the past patients involuntary stimulation of your peripheral nervous system action yeah. Yeah there is a defense against users it's only available military. And law enforcement. And it's called it -- it. This is like the greatest product they've never a solution. Which case sounds like -- from Trojan but is actually. Basically. Polyester but declare polyester so they to have gloves and undergarments they go between your skin. And your uniform and the idea is that the little electrodes or that the electrodes are suppressing a close. Basically it's insulation you wrap yourself aware of installation of electrodes or electricity from that can't really penetrate exactly. So but nothing is Mexico's you know -- Boston -- generally speaking the people in the law enforcement are trained to deal with -- people who probably not the same physical -- conditioning and probably don't have the you know. Can intelligence control for my -- with this yeah. Yeah it's like if if you know. I am I have friends who work in law enforcement hide them you can. Completely comfortable saying they won't kick my ass soundly in -- in a fair or unfair fight you and without a --"

" As I probably important to mention -- that whole health and safety side of things is that. There's controversy right now yet they say it's not a big deal you know -- only affects the nervous system and not the heart. But there's claims out there that people are dropping out on the streets from moment in you know the hard damage and stuff like that and the service they considered a lethal weapon and things there's always."

" Things go horribly wrong they can be abused and really unfortunate ways. You're gonna show us how this is built yes and I can a couple of minutes spent I'm gonna. Reach around -- very careful manner actually turn this little bit he had noticed -- were avoiding this assiduously. And there's a -- of what this because it hurts like hell to have 300 volts of electricity through here and if you take a look at the screen you'll see your multi meter showing the 300 volts marvel. Device here which is powered by a single double -- battery. It's. That was very impressive but. Have a nice clean spot -- of aluminum foil here. And has been making contact. But that you know holes. Yes and you know. Is a tiny amount of electricity and we have -- particularly abuse this battery in the course filming today is let's not nearly as potent as it was a few hours ago. If you keep it."

" Here's the truth. About one aside and you can see that you know you're gonna. Yeah that's more fun. We have to show us this if you can actually hear. I'm all the supplement to the microphone. The whole way -- teach yourself to be embarrassing destroy a fifteen dollar might 1500 dollar Mike back and drop drafts of reports that. Lap what the -- these are your X. That's so much fun. And we shouldn't call those occasions because obviously it's a DNY device and has no association with -- professional provider and this little problem Moore classified the stun weapons Brett they have what -- teaser which is doing this is basically to cause severe pain yes. Sound kind of important find out and yeah we -- planets that you know. Well 3030330. Evils home mom you -- kind of testing stuff like with a fresh battery if you let the thing ramp up with -- like listening to a flash on there's a millimeter camera and is the capacitor winds itself up it's ironic this would mention that. Oh no because. Actually is and altered -- millimeter camera. These -- been around for awhile but you know theory talking about ten users I want to kind of business. And if you actually open these up what does -- say if yeah the younger child we can hold the stack of 35 millimeter DIY disposable cameras. Not a good idea to -- an -- At kind of a nice digital camera program you move them. That was that political joke -- bellicose and that's the guts from inside what these cameras tests against."

" Once I want these cameras that's pretty much all it's in their electronics wires. You're an honest giant capacitor on the Mac has been vocal in charge of this whole situation and what pastors -- Basically it holds a charge that you can actually militaristic -- whirring -- coming here is that -- don't think that charred building up in there and hold onto until -- discharges. Are basically sort across the contacts. And that's what's inside. So basically I sit here. And if you're messing with these -- Discharges do flash and then don't connect to batter -- we've done wiring or you accidentally probably sort yourself out. Those two contacts right there if turnovers and homework and actually that's -- this here. There's a safety or -- flash on switches on the circuit there. Yeah I hope that. You your charge us. -- account. And what you can do is actually push that one switch down on the other sweats. And that's the normal -- you get the primary internal thing that had it shorts this capacitor. But what you can do. Is if you take one of these and this is actually a Fuji film cameras disposable name they have this little leave the flash on switch on the front and that's what that little bit of copper we're holding up there was exactly so there's two little context on their -- I just honor goes to the class is always gone. And then put a sweat sock EM positive sign and battery. And then a cut off the flash. And then slaughtered two wires to the capacitor. And literally. Put on sidewalks. Put Tubal America wrap the wires around -- Move the alleviation soap box fixes on in charge. And a switch and given a few seconds he senility trying to come on. And then you know you're in trouble."

" So it's pretty simple one there's a bunch of people have been doing it out there. Have your own mini it's been -- around for awhile it's it's it's floating around we're not cause the original idea that we not -- that as an example some fun so there."

" We've actually refer to this whole thing is projects stupid and would like to point out that the FBI and DIY devices later hurt yourself. This is really lessons to be learned here is that electricity can kill you if these are you. Can disrupt the control -- muscular system they can oh yeah causing incredible amounts of pain. And the -- little baby that he sought a little tiny capacitor or will to have the pastor but compared to some stuff you'll find. Inside an electronic equipment that's that's a pretty unique to pastor doesn't hold much to charge. If you open up the back with television additional CRT television CRT monitor. Or worse yet these are -- around transformers. Neon sign transformers or them the transformers inside microwaves are incredibly dangerous if you do something. Silly -- facility being a metaphor for incredibly stupid. Like you know if you managed you I don't know be holding on to something or be grounded to the floor and touched the giant back the CRT the of the all the guild of television and you'll see a whole bunch of copper in the back in the last two. That's essentially holding a giant -- charge more giant charged because it effectively acts as a capacitor that will knock your ass across the room halfway through walls. It is bat. You know if you are playing around these things you know what you're doing. Don't there really aren't -- user serviceable parts inside if you don't know what you're doing when you're going in there don't go in there if you do start playing around that there's a reason electricians. You with -- work what voltage you know there's a lot of yeah. One hand it's stuck in the belts. And when he does the work that's not because they're trying to prevent the world of senior plumbers crack. It's because they want to not create a situation where they have voltage running into them more and privileges much scarier than voltage. And they ground themselves and they run electricity through your heart causing a heart potentially stopped and worse is like we held hands and yeah -- we telephone exactly. The player -- hospital and you see Louis. Yeah well with the same electricity that will start a human heart that this stopped -- will also cause a beating human heart to stop beating. Doesn't take a while electricity to do this so let us you don't want to say this clearly. You know teaser based on weapon. Is designed to you know affect your nervous system and our kill you but if things go -- can you a lot of damage if nothing else to do a lot of pain because lot of -- as -- the stairwell going to fall down the stairwell yes you know. There could be combined injuries there's you have so. You know I and then two I have upon occasion overheard people talking about building something like this and using it for fun -- homer. Don't. Abdicate -- classes and if you want him hit or it'll get you could give school arrested. More likely more than likely seduce a favor. Don't build one of these if you're feeling so threatened by the people in your community this is wonderful time to move or talk to somebody you have more control over the situation that you do with the housing market has to be deep breath. -- work. (%expletive) and moan about ranch earlier today. We only have weather in San Francisco we talk about rents. You saw -- for the tests are you sauce -- the minimum foil you know there's good news or sophisticated weapons. If it's me and in law enforcement campus security at particularly hyperactive security -- are pissed off -- deeper and deeper his point taser me I probably would do with the nice person with the weapons that thing at. Not only people are not I don't particularly enjoy -- My -- the weapons on them get on the web under the welcome mrs. Clinton. Trim all Iowa State is a weapon. You know just don't put yourself in the position where somebody has a particularly good reason to tease you. Don't build it pays for funds that your friends. You know when the original version of the sudden we're going is that -- that may actually happen. We're worried. Weren't comfortable. Because generally speaking hurting your friend is not even bill amongst consensual adults is not considered particularly cool thing to do. Well if you're consensual adults it's a whole other subject check out Web Drifter you'll. -- analysts he'll understand wonderful stuff. -- And hard has -- eureka -- we we sit here and just play with. Yeah well he has a better job. Well you'll notice as well watch the episode you can you understand that. Email well it's a good point got a question -- product idea -- want to tells us stupid we are talking about this at all as always the forums are open. Go to the system web pages through the system dot -- of the show pages she could uniforms from there. If you went email process did you or tell so we're jerks for talking about this that's fine since lots of email email us at Tekzilla at Revision 3. Dot com I actually am happy that should know. If you wanna email us the email is just system SY STM at revision3.com. And it will get to us -- favor. So this project ideas and some some more stuff you curious about when you're done. With offensive weapons although we may kill a computer later on I find this fall and you I think the I think the quarter mile tradition computer -- Is finally going to reach fruition. Somebody's been threatening to do for years."

" I think that it had. It doesn't interest in -- coming -- who got some weird stuff in from different than the submarine. Working on a submarine were wrestling with the help that does the wireless access -- fund with EV DO modems yes. And that you where you're going to appease their fans with some I mean you can't work. -- now so the other has been a lot of that won't work -- not."

" I just had planned no more about the MAME cabinet he's gonna talk about he's gonna do something absolutely. Sick. But in a good cool find -- kind of way not an inhalant -- kind of way that we're gonna cut this all before yourself and any more emotional or moral trouble. I'm Patrick Norton Condit Randolph thanks for -- system. --"

" I'm Patrick Norton David Randolph and we have a rather interesting episode system for episode ninety -- talk about the technology behind some weapons. We should probably commonly referred to as a teaser. Now why would we be talking about these is this week of all weeks well. There's been a lot of videos and things like that out there on the web over the recent time -- is being used. -- Yeah for good from bad excessively. Well. Politically whatever you call it it's big it's kind -- we have got a lot of questions from you when we've got a lot of questions from outside -- or normal group of friends that are asking what exactly happens in the human body gets zapped by taser. Having a museum catastrophic ground is that there are people just don't really know what's going on."

" Well there's kind of a different -- modern. All across United States and a a cattle prod is essentially a long plastic stick with a couple electorates at the end about your batteries -- the capacitor so that when the context scanned the skin creates a complete circuit. And whatever is the other of the complete circuit which is hopefully -- But I did so cattle -- that was like a classic device for poking around large animals so they move away from the source of pay. -- officials some weapons are about pain or third of this than fifteen watts maybe eighteen volts are seeking goals. Fairly low voltage for the -- average extra mile bridge and what's what's. Stop or -- about low average. Electricity in case you hadn't been paying attention severely -- the system. We'll kill you. It's not so much the voltage that will kill you but the -- so not a lot of voltage or the truth is you take like 600 volts. Which sounds terrifying and believe me you been hit by three phase power yeah I kind of thing it it will send you the hospital at this -- of -- the average is extremely low it will -- a great deal of pain and discomfort. That's because your entire body is essentially an electrical a series of electrical circuits you have your economist nervous system so they just from your brain. Your spinal column and controls things that you know a mustard is that yogi -- give you -- you can't physically decrease your heart rate or. You know you're you can't physically control your lungs breathing pretzels involuntary -- that helps -- I'll -- there so what a stun weapons does is it actually impacts your. Peripheral nervous system the purple nervous system is the connection between your brain because your final holiday goes out and here. Muscles and because we controls your ability to -- muscles it's basically the electrical service to tell you always hot in Hertz or you know clinch this muscle and partners system we can control. Yes or they had to at least much easier to impact. So what additional -- does is you creates. You got your box there to cattle prod her little yellow box so much nine -- it. You touch someone -- essentially it's -- overrides the nervous system and in tells you this hurts. Does -- a better way. -- if you if you if you're living in the country and you've ever grabbed an electric fence by accident and you know what happens. Your muscles -- you feel pain shouldn't your arm this is generally speaking people don't like to have voltage roam through them. Let them. I think -- in the context of certain online web sites in which case it's a consensual thing between adult that's really be on the can of this particular episode system. Panasonic future so there you -- however. May week. Pointed towards our sister program act act act act and so -- most un weapons essentially does that affect your peripheral nervous system right so you know. Bad guys and what actually what they essentially are we talk of the battery -- got a couple these are mark collectors couples cruisers is you make of a physical contact. And the voltage runs through you and you would in theory go and run away and allow drug runaway importance and that's exactly right W you since you've all seen there's always -- it's a classic kind of like. You know -- Did there's always some sort of spy movies work there's like the you know the conspired to -- by somebody walks up behind him and presses it to their neck they dropped to the ground. Great don't you -- bad -- bad thing electricity can hurt you and and really interesting and neat ways."

" Angela candidate on YouTube where that group of friends are also know how."

" have to -- traffic in New York City but I gotta say a government board that he's my friends and certainly not on videotape. But yes it's kind of it's a kind of you know fascinating and disturbing to see how many videos are showing up on YouTube not not not in the jackass like hey let's go abuse ourselves but to me hey look I got videotape this guy being shocked and a you know pain and and and whatever you call us."

" They use force primary function but this is not. Correctly."

" Yeah well it basically the primary function of of a modern. Taser stun gun to -- an actual brand that's that's preferred by law enforcement everywhere. Used to debilitate an assailant and they were little bit differently. They can't work what they called drive mode which is. You know when you're in close contact and physically touch the sorrow quit poking you before you beat me yet or worse yeah. Yeah -- there officer Randolph fifty Ares. Which actually I'd like to point out if you happen to come into conflict of law enforcement whether -- campus police member of the FBI or anything in between. If somebody's gotta gun and a camp -- entities are just -- would they say because you're not gonna win the argument now and are gonna win the argument in court. So you may as well quietly goes to you can call bail Bondsman lawyers quickly as possible while the go to the hospital before going to jail before in the opportunity to call bail Bondsman -- lawyer. It's Carson's probably commands it is it's a tough call. I know people have been made to political rallies and they generally say it's unpleasant. And I know people have been teaser for fun on television shows and they say that's actually really unpleasant. The the interesting thing teaser anachronism and I'm gonna read this off the office script so don't mess it up to users mechanism for Thomas case -- selector rifle this is an obscure literary reference. From Arizona inventor Jack cover who invented the teaser in 1969. It -- for a science fiction that teenage adventure science fiction character called Tom swift great stuff you -- a kid. I mean if you got the other young can you know better woman. Young child adolescent literature this is good stuff fire -- how -- passenger exactly -- it's good stuff. It was little more advanced than the big brain serious and and the but what's interesting about taser is it's gotta Hutu card designed it looks like -- to -- weapon that the sensible gun being Jericho weapon but. There -- again a couple of electrodes the CO2 -- I hit the trigger by the CO2 charges. Fires. The electrodes out electrodes have little wires on the back from the go back of the -- where the electrical power resources. And are designed sort of stick in your clothing or your skin or -- you. And it runs a pretty hefty amount what trustees your system you're talking about 50000 volts maybe he wants to begin. Very low pampered -- 133 milligrams."

" How far away can that person actually."

" Be according to the teaser folks the M eighteen the advanced user weapon the current -- can -- about fifteen feet plus previous fifteen feet is a lot better than you know horror stories yeah. Editor -- yourself I'm gonna buy a teaser and the jocks on campus are never gonna. Let me again yourself that they were just brought him to leave the -- priority queues the other thing is like -- electrodes go -- dot. I want hone in and yet -- carcasses he yeah it's I'd -- that's my understanding you know it's not the way you know you can still you still have the thing in your hand you can -- people with it. These are not quite probable that if courage jock or there cranked out of their brains are there just really really angry have a high tolerance for pain -- what they called drives on mode is not considered nearly as effective. There's a big reason for that drives on motor traditional stun gun kind of note it's -- shocking news that out wow wow. The -- what it does when it says those electrodes and tetris is and it's the blowing it enough electricity through your system to override your peripheral nervous system and cause every muscle in your body to clutch. Tactics used to completely kind draw and contractor well with the what its first going to do is it's gonna -- you know. -- The electricity hits and every muscle in your -- is going to contract so basically means if you're running and you get hit. Yeah every muscle in your body's going to lock up. Yes and timbers the next thing it's been going through your head right before you hit the concrete high speed. If five they continue to apply electricity which they can do there's no kind of audio there's no stop dont give them more than Jews and it also like to say the law enforcement you don't feel like being threatened on behalf of anybody stupid enough to (%expletive) you often get k.'s -- Go easy on the -- Who we joke but again you know it this restaurant lethal weapon that it's a little scary -- if for no other reason in case somebody's. In the audience with a video camera videotaping the dog pile on the screaming kid going to -- he's negro. But what's interesting you know there's that these are folks that their fancy marking her -- electro muscular. Disruption. And in disruptions are really accurate -- is. You essentially all of your muscles -- and then if beyond just these occasional -- all your pasted into fetal. -- everything -- clash of just how does it can go and natural position for the human body that point he's he turned into a baby in the womb and you school lunch up. That makes you much more manageable."

" And this is kind of just literally all is doing this thing and whatever your body's telling you I'm gonna tell you ten times that 10000 times more."

" Yeah I like the the the marketing stuff from from. From the -- folks designed to stop even most -- aggressive focus combatants that's because it's not about pain is not about the assailants ability to tolerate pain is basically. This is biology -- run electricity through your system your entire body. Clinches you're done so grandma's gonna come from Rambo is not coming at me -- course probably -- gotten with a sniper rifle from a quarter mile away that's again another episode of systm -- never going to happen. Yeah neuro muscular in the past patients involuntary stimulation of your peripheral nervous system action yeah. Yeah there is a defense against users it's only available military. And law enforcement. And it's called it -- it. This is like the greatest product they've never a solution. Which case sounds like -- from Trojan but is actually. Basically. Polyester but declare polyester so they to have gloves and undergarments they go between your skin. And your uniform and the idea is that the little electrodes or that the electrodes are suppressing a close. Basically it's insulation you wrap yourself aware of installation of electrodes or electricity from that can't really penetrate exactly. So but nothing is Mexico's you know -- Boston -- generally speaking the people in the law enforcement are trained to deal with -- people who probably not the same physical -- conditioning and probably don't have the you know. Can intelligence control for my -- with this yeah. Yeah it's like if if you know. I am I have friends who work in law enforcement hide them you can. Completely comfortable saying they won't kick my ass soundly in -- in a fair or unfair fight you and without a --"

" As I probably important to mention -- that whole health and safety side of things is that. There's controversy right now yet they say it's not a big deal you know -- only affects the nervous system and not the heart. But there's claims out there that people are dropping out on the streets from moment in you know the hard damage and stuff like that and the service they considered a lethal weapon and things there's always."

" Things go horribly wrong they can be abused and really unfortunate ways. You're gonna show us how this is built yes and I can a couple of minutes spent I'm gonna. Reach around -- very careful manner actually turn this little bit he had noticed -- were avoiding this assiduously. And there's a -- of what this because it hurts like hell to have 300 volts of electricity through here and if you take a look at the screen you'll see your multi meter showing the 300 volts marvel. Device here which is powered by a single double -- battery. It's. That was very impressive but. Have a nice clean spot -- of aluminum foil here. And has been making contact. But that you know holes. Yes and you know. Is a tiny amount of electricity and we have -- particularly abuse this battery in the course filming today is let's not nearly as potent as it was a few hours ago. If you keep it."

" Here's the truth. About one aside and you can see that you know you're gonna. Yeah that's more fun. We have to show us this if you can actually hear. I'm all the supplement to the microphone. The whole way -- teach yourself to be embarrassing destroy a fifteen dollar might 1500 dollar Mike back and drop drafts of reports that. Lap what the -- these are your X. That's so much fun. And we shouldn't call those occasions because obviously it's a DNY device and has no association with -- professional provider and this little problem Moore classified the stun weapons Brett they have what -- teaser which is doing this is basically to cause severe pain yes. Sound kind of important find out and yeah we -- planets that you know. Well 3030330. Evils home mom you -- kind of testing stuff like with a fresh battery if you let the thing ramp up with -- like listening to a flash on there's a millimeter camera and is the capacitor winds itself up it's ironic this would mention that. Oh no because. Actually is and altered -- millimeter camera. These -- been around for awhile but you know theory talking about ten users I want to kind of business. And if you actually open these up what does -- say if yeah the younger child we can hold the stack of 35 millimeter DIY disposable cameras. Not a good idea to -- an -- At kind of a nice digital camera program you move them. That was that political joke -- bellicose and that's the guts from inside what these cameras tests against."

" Once I want these cameras that's pretty much all it's in their electronics wires. You're an honest giant capacitor on the Mac has been vocal in charge of this whole situation and what pastors -- Basically it holds a charge that you can actually militaristic -- whirring -- coming here is that -- don't think that charred building up in there and hold onto until -- discharges. Are basically sort across the contacts. And that's what's inside. So basically I sit here. And if you're messing with these -- Discharges do flash and then don't connect to batter -- we've done wiring or you accidentally probably sort yourself out. Those two contacts right there if turnovers and homework and actually that's -- this here. There's a safety or -- flash on switches on the circuit there. Yeah I hope that. You your charge us. -- account. And what you can do is actually push that one switch down on the other sweats. And that's the normal -- you get the primary internal thing that had it shorts this capacitor. But what you can do. Is if you take one of these and this is actually a Fuji film cameras disposable name they have this little leave the flash on switch on the front and that's what that little bit of copper we're holding up there was exactly so there's two little context on their -- I just honor goes to the class is always gone. And then put a sweat sock EM positive sign and battery. And then a cut off the flash. And then slaughtered two wires to the capacitor. And literally. Put on sidewalks. Put Tubal America wrap the wires around -- Move the alleviation soap box fixes on in charge. And a switch and given a few seconds he senility trying to come on. And then you know you're in trouble."

" So it's pretty simple one there's a bunch of people have been doing it out there. Have your own mini it's been -- around for awhile it's it's it's floating around we're not cause the original idea that we not -- that as an example some fun so there."

" We've actually refer to this whole thing is projects stupid and would like to point out that the FBI and DIY devices later hurt yourself. This is really lessons to be learned here is that electricity can kill you if these are you. Can disrupt the control -- muscular system they can oh yeah causing incredible amounts of pain. And the -- little baby that he sought a little tiny capacitor or will to have the pastor but compared to some stuff you'll find. Inside an electronic equipment that's that's a pretty unique to pastor doesn't hold much to charge. If you open up the back with television additional CRT television CRT monitor. Or worse yet these are -- around transformers. Neon sign transformers or them the transformers inside microwaves are incredibly dangerous if you do something. Silly -- facility being a metaphor for incredibly stupid. Like you know if you managed you I don't know be holding on to something or be grounded to the floor and touched the giant back the CRT the of the all the guild of television and you'll see a whole bunch of copper in the back in the last two. That's essentially holding a giant -- charge more giant charged because it effectively acts as a capacitor that will knock your ass across the room halfway through walls. It is bat. You know if you are playing around these things you know what you're doing. Don't there really aren't -- user serviceable parts inside if you don't know what you're doing when you're going in there don't go in there if you do start playing around that there's a reason electricians. You with -- work what voltage you know there's a lot of yeah. One hand it's stuck in the belts. And when he does the work that's not because they're trying to prevent the world of senior plumbers crack. It's because they want to not create a situation where they have voltage running into them more and privileges much scarier than voltage. And they ground themselves and they run electricity through your heart causing a heart potentially stopped and worse is like we held hands and yeah -- we telephone exactly. The player -- hospital and you see Louis. Yeah well with the same electricity that will start a human heart that this stopped -- will also cause a beating human heart to stop beating. Doesn't take a while electricity to do this so let us you don't want to say this clearly. You know teaser based on weapon. Is designed to you know affect your nervous system and our kill you but if things go -- can you a lot of damage if nothing else to do a lot of pain because lot of -- as -- the stairwell going to fall down the stairwell yes you know. There could be combined injuries there's you have so. You know I and then two I have upon occasion overheard people talking about building something like this and using it for fun -- homer. Don't. Abdicate -- classes and if you want him hit or it'll get you could give school arrested. More likely more than likely seduce a favor. Don't build one of these if you're feeling so threatened by the people in your community this is wonderful time to move or talk to somebody you have more control over the situation that you do with the housing market has to be deep breath. -- work. (%expletive) and moan about ranch earlier today. We only have weather in San Francisco we talk about rents. You saw -- for the tests are you sauce -- the minimum foil you know there's good news or sophisticated weapons. If it's me and in law enforcement campus security at particularly hyperactive security -- are pissed off -- deeper and deeper his point taser me I probably would do with the nice person with the weapons that thing at. Not only people are not I don't particularly enjoy -- My -- the weapons on them get on the web under the welcome mrs. Clinton. Trim all Iowa State is a weapon. You know just don't put yourself in the position where somebody has a particularly good reason to tease you. Don't build it pays for funds that your friends. You know when the original version of the sudden we're going is that -- that may actually happen. We're worried. Weren't comfortable. Because generally speaking hurting your friend is not even bill amongst consensual adults is not considered particularly cool thing to do. Well if you're consensual adults it's a whole other subject check out Web Drifter you'll. -- analysts he'll understand wonderful stuff. -- And hard has -- eureka -- we we sit here and just play with. Yeah well he has a better job. Well you'll notice as well watch the episode you can you understand that. Email well it's a good point got a question -- product idea -- want to tells us stupid we are talking about this at all as always the forums are open. Go to the system web pages through the system dot -- of the show pages she could uniforms from there. If you went email process did you or tell so we're jerks for talking about this that's fine since lots of email email us at Tekzilla at Revision 3. Dot com I actually am happy that should know. If you wanna email us the email is just system SY STM at revision3.com. And it will get to us -- favor. So this project ideas and some some more stuff you curious about when you're done. With offensive weapons although we may kill a computer later on I find this fall and you I think the I think the quarter mile tradition computer -- Is finally going to reach fruition. Somebody's been threatening to do for years."

" I think that it had. It doesn't interest in -- coming -- who got some weird stuff in from different than the submarine. Working on a submarine were wrestling with the help that does the wireless access -- fund with EV DO modems yes. And that you where you're going to appease their fans with some I mean you can't work. -- now so the other has been a lot of that won't work -- not."

" I just had planned no more about the MAME cabinet he's gonna talk about he's gonna do something absolutely. Sick. But in a good cool find -- kind of way not an inhalant -- kind of way that we're gonna cut this all before yourself and any more emotional or moral trouble. I'm Patrick Norton Condit Randolph thanks for -- system. --"