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" This episode of system has brought you by Microsoft unified communications. Netflix dot com and GoDaddy -- job. Today we're gonna be talking about running windows on your Mac. While running OS-X at the same time it's not impossible it's not thanks to the wonderful world of virtualization. How to run virtual PCs at your back on this episode of systems."

" One question me constantly yours is that K let's step by step install VMware fusion or parallels. -- But I want to or windows simultaneously. With -- OS-X. We got so we email we decided finally to do something about it -- is the flood of emails we drag and an old friend you spent weeks ignored his wife dot. And the opening the deal movies only not be opening an Oakland -- I copy opening you can't yet so why -- you're actually manage to sort out VMware and parallels and boot camp before you know what. They Yemen join me walking CNET executive editor the host of buzz out loud mr. Tom Merritt. Well showtime entrapment Patrick is -- times you use it at all lucky you got obsessed with this."

" Yeah well it's started with actually that would hold it. Look -- mean what does virtualization. Why did you get it that's okay so virtualization. Is the idea of creating a virtual machine that's running on the processor of the real machine right with a fake processor fake monitor fake graphics card the whole spiel. Essentially and then that way you can install the OS on this virtual machine and run in different OS in the when your running. Inside that OS you can run windows inside OS-X have. Outlook running an Internet Explorer and all the windows application you would why without having to leave OS-X but it's not emulation. It's in good questions not exactly and mutilation right. Obviously as -- rockets that eBay has the difference between and in relation virtualization doesn't so when you and you wait. You're like tells them you're pushing emulation -- emulation you're emulating like a Sega Genesis right here pretending to -- bashing that machine it's is there a big difference between now its its its its politically it open for debate and talk on and don't know why did you say that you this is like. Right what wire bra and why it were windows to a virtual machine rather than with the all right so I was running windows on this MacBook pro almost exclusively and it does best when does she ever hacked during using boot camp. But there're couple things in OS-X that I want to take advantage. Then boot camp two point one came outline. And there was a problem. That I later found that was because of a keyboard remember I was using that cause windows to freeze randomly. Every ten or fifteen minutes so they love happily booting windows through boot camp and it would for so I went over to OS-X and figured you know what. I ill just do this virtualization thing -- run windows and virtualization I'd done parallels before. So I fired that back out and I realized hey look at that I can get garage band and I can get that if you like it -- kind of the -- dvds I can get -- these wonderful. Apple only. Perks and still have outlook and I. My entire machine that I had on the other partition. All in one so basically you -- in the quietly do your biggest that he was gonna give you Apple personable let's is mind. Not anybody else's machine doubts and that's and a lot of flexibility wanted to be able to go like go into windows. And get access its video OS-X side and go into -- tanning get access to win the -- it didn't matter what side it was then. I can do ever want and -- basically it's just you know -- keyboard combo you flip back and forth realistic virtual machine. Yeah I didn't even have -- that's what I've got a right now I've got the virtual machine over a different one of spaces -- you -- stood yet kind of fun and I -- down here and I him and but it this is running full screen but it doesn't have to you can actually go in there and view it in different ways than it actually get into VMware. So you don't have to you can go and and view -- different ways you can have a single window. So that you're actually running your OS-X applications right next the entire. Windows or you can do what's called unity or it's called coherence in parallels and actually -- individual wolves. Windows applications in their own windows right next newest tactic so that's what are the differences between VMware and parallels. Well it and curls and VMware are almost identical although I'm sure their respective product managers would point -- extensive differences between the parallel and boys are beginning -- are there are when I when I was using parallels and I was like they're gonna switch to VMware should I got all kinds of crazy people saying absolutely are no don't do it. Frankly. Peer parallels and VMware's full versions I really found not that much difference for -- and be a little slicker. In running but the -- they were the same VMware fusion has a beta out and that's what I'm using right here that allows you. To take a program and put it on multiple monitors. Amongst a few other tweaks. Parallels and the current. Stable version of him mark had a interest and is actually the third one at that too much time. Well -- ever try to get virtual box from virtual box dot -- it's a son project -- open office. That's totally free parallels and VMware. Eighty bucks if you want to have if you want to use of continuously -- pretty box is an important VMware applications we've. The -- and how it felt like that right south it was like server virtualization -- big time big iron he believed it virtualization and that parables came out -- like -- forty books like global -- box it and peripherals like also -- not. And I -- virtual box which I is that haven't tried I don't know well I -- want to try it are are you currently more favorite VMware over parallels which is more stable for. Parallels is actually a little more stable but I like the VMware fusion beta because of the extra ability to use multiple monitors -- get back. From the mr. early adopters who look like what's available -- You know basically release code right now. If you're gonna drop your -- and one of these drop it on parallels if I'm Tom Merritt from 1999. I'd go virtual box. If I want like you know on the Tom -- they're you know ten years from now -- little I don't know if I want -- Mess around with open source software anymore because I have some strange fear of it. I'd probably go parallels about it. My experience was almost identical they're both very stable but couldn't when you -- and you know. Web sites and applications -- pretty much everything happens to rid of it won't run inside of virtual machine. Yeah. Games. Not all games like your hardcore gamer this is not a solution for you you're not gonna run. A really good frame rate inside because. You are running -- kind of gunned down machine and it's got -- it's Gaza for allegedly processor here processor virtualization. In the virtual machine. As far as like. You know quick in Microsoft Word outlook all of those things they run. Just -- slower -- just like that tiny millisecond have a response time later but otherwise. I've got to see. That is a brief message from Microsoft."

" Okay. Okay. Okay."

" What to walk us through installing like XP you're Vista inside VMware -- out of boot camp -- because it just visible if you boot camp partition and boom it's pretty much just got to do a few things to make it happen to basically if you or we have boot camp installed. VMware parallels that was it basically hooks -- an analyst yeah and recognizes the boot camp partition -- you have boot camp no problems so what it's gonna do is its gonna go and and it's going to rewrite the Activision activation code which means you may have to reactivate which if you're like me and you've tried -- about ten times you may have to go through a very long. Call to Microsoft does actually tip for anybody -- into this if it's the same machine you're not lying to call them up and say I just rebuilt my entire machine it's almost all new parts but it's the same machine and I please reactivate windows and they -- the machine on the other and we'll say yes you can here's an activation -- you put in a bunch of numbers. It works. If you're starting from scratch and don't you just go through it pretty step by step instructions going to ask."

" He was operating system. You want anonymous a Vista that is to say Vista Y night. It's like the name for the virtual machine and choose the folder where this virtual machine will be created so we actually have. You can re name it you can put it wherever you want I'm gonna keep it in virtual machines so that my boot camp and so on those are all in the same place. It's gonna say how much of the disk do you want to give over to this operating systems on. And it's giving me the maximum capacity that I can take I don't think I want that. What you have to remember is that it will grow over time. That's the nice thing in the bad thing is that it doesn't have an -- Hard drive so if it starts to run out of space can just take more -- that it will grow larger user applications of files you -- right into you have a flexible. Virtual hard disk that you exist in this Ellie Andy you haven't you partition on -- driving this -- later hours yet -- have the virtual machine you have you have a files that is on your machine that had your entire operating system and all your files that I mean like. You're running Lewiston on this machine cluster running your virtual machines do you just accessing it in OS-X or is because I think it of the -- and yet best verses each of us plus can't read this thank you great great great great you can you can drag and drop. From the virtual machine to -- OS-X hard drive and back again and then they set up a shared folder. But you can actually access from within OS-X with a girl listened operating systems -- answers here -- shared -- make it easy or you can. So you can transfer over the internal network essentially to be to the other -- applicability have to enter in your password to windows product key -- you installing either of us yeah how well and that's for the activation stuff comes in -- to put that product key and and then when it when it goes on it'll automatically activate itself. And -- The twelfth time and it's gonna go ahead and installed -- give you a warning saying windows genuine advantage to keep pirated -- or somebody else it is -- column. Like I said it talent that you rebuilt the machine essentially then you'll be activated would have. Well I'd have to create a password here analysts agreed yeah. Product can act act act act. Everybody out there looking for a witnesses this. -- is it possible that it that the government of situation because you've you've obviously activated like a dozen times in a couple days if you were shut down the alleged activated now every time I have had to call it's a long drawn out process you have to put an end Mike. Theatre read over the phone to voice recognition software from Microsoft about 2324. Characters and then they gave you 24 characters that you have to type and and then your August so at this point do you have this by any other PC just on this particular I mean him jealous of your users of multiple machines and no I'm not actually I'm not even using that that is a totally clean copy of Vista this copy of XP is on boot camp and being fertilized mouse. So then yeah it's gonna just say I do is so it was okay as soon. NASA now -- the disk crash happened just -- it needs this I put that in and then you're gonna see. You just -- normal installation widgets and would you like me to vote this what -- hey why not pollute it would -- a Microsoft actually lets you have eight boot camp installation plus he virtual installation. Did both of those require activation. Yes -- and that's what VMware and parallels do. That messes with each other which is why can't run parallels and VMware at the same time because it it was for so so you activate a boot camp then you go and install it and windows says wait a minute I'm on a new machine because essentially it is. And you have to reactivated but what VMware does it is. It. Installs what VMware does is it installs some tools that allow that activation happened just that one more time. And then whether you're going to boot camp or whether you go into the virtual machine. It's going to be able to tell windows no it's okay this is the same machine but if you go in the -- running in parallels off boot camp. Parallels is going to see that VMware activation code and go now. Battle needs to be reactivated now -- windows freaks out so every time you go switching from one virtualization to the other. You have activation problems that's -- kind of have to settle on one."

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" Coherence and unity. I understand. -- RA in both VMware and parallels -- you have the ability to break a program out. And haven't looked just like any other program in Austin. Even though it's a windows program that's right it just runs and it's a little yes -- got the entire OS and a window right now you can see it's like hanging out here. Buy it what program would you like to run -- you know."

" Tan independently. Game and -- is attempting intimacy. At a density that -- weird time. So I'm gonna launch a destiny here. Inside the little. Magical windows environment so there is all crushed up in there could put then you press this'll unity -- that's called coherence in parallels. Okay so coherence and unity are the same thing yeah ones in parallels. VM parallels like caller coherence and VMware the code candidates the same thing. Boom so here is horrifying how that -- so we here and now that's right next here and I can actually. Minimize it. And it will go down into the dock. Very hear those knock them down looks just like eight and windows. Program acceptance here in comic. Out. So that's a lagging as a drum machine so let's -- That's so cool so basically if -- loyalists and that's not the end of the cool hold on. Because if you look down here below the dock. The start menu is actually down here behind the dock. Business suit design so if you go on the system perhaps. And you move the dock it over to the right. Now you've got a both windows and OS-X running on one screen and you can actually go down here and it's just creepy audacity area. Model right -- now you design in the kitchen and."

" Caroline put the machine it will historical -- Patrick."

" Apple while -- admiring the crest VMware fusion have you had issues finding drivers needed for for the -- I guess the drivers for its all of their for the MacBook and MacBook pros when and if you're actually using -- couldn't -- as I see your little you know -- deal. Do you you're using a windows machine so as long as you've got windows drivers available for something which boot camp -- good boot camp provides windows drivers for everything. You can also go appear individual virtual machine and select what you want to connect to the virtual machine. So for instance -- Little friend down here. I can go in and disconnect the network. Any USB actually I think this is technically connected via US because there it is TDMA. Connections over there right there I can connect it to VMware I can disconnected from VMware and USB device that I -- I can allow the virtual machine access to it -- not through this man. You -- really useful over the that I never would have thought of of course until it needed the three fingered salute when I -- you said it was funny now it's useful. What they have what control alt delete right which I have to now and windows when her in a virtual machine. You have to -- the function key. To be able to make control alt -- work. Because this the MacBook pro and the keys are essentially you control function properly and works with appropriate result of options -- he would want to not notice this yes does that does the Apple command key work like this. Yes it does it actually re mapped as it windows scheme when your in the virtual machine boot camp does that as well. And the C typical sort of side by side hero world thing which brings us to what I understand your favorite aspect of running virtual machines not the you know the utility of running windows applications analyst but actually cutting and pasting between the operating systems -- cut and paste it to fancy paying and yes it's -- everything what is. Hello -- Norton that Casey go and notepad right in windows now you have to there's an occupational hazard here because your role in both. It's control. Acts. And notepad not command access control X and windows right in windows and then when you go to text that it you know OS-X it's. Command. V. But you can cut and paste between everything -- your revenues and control it from -- to -- let me show you what happens if you're in windows in the do command beat him. Then it starts typing he's constantly I don't know why does that. Don't really kind of fascinating that was market I call that way -- glitch in the beta. I don't know I think it does that the regular went through what about moving between because we cover the -- before until a little more about sharing files are moving files between OS-X and you're virtual machine okay you wanna get you want to do that. Let's. Pull up my computer. From the virtual machine. And then we'll put the finder from OS-X."

" Analysts say I've got a document. Here on. This machine with that commandments out of windows and -- you -- split. We do is equally. In the best -- yeah there's a way to do that you can do that with a mighty mouse two right. For us half dead just -- mighty -- once and never guess what again don't touch the mouse it's just a horrible interpretation of announcing various that that's what we're. Okay -- road."

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" All right so I've got the latest Apple what a full screen I'm gonna do east meets west and and about podcast and OS-X but I've got my. Image that I want for the file over here so want to drag it over. I just grab it literally -- and using third party software to you right to invest -- So it can actually tanks and stuff from us and it into the deepest part yet witness yet. Really yep that's political machine now that's really useful. Yes it actually works as a way to get around. Those issues so there it is there's the one I just moved in W generic one. Right -- there it is. And man. I can say take and you've taxed for some reason I don't know that is. And move it back over here. Nice and a -- tea while you are of course you are you running -- running the suffering need to do that. How that happens is speeds compare. Between running this natively could you read it and you've -- it's the right all the stuff natively. In boot camp how does the virtual machines there -- the virtual machine honestly. The one time I used it totally virtual was. Tiny bit faster secretive because here yet but I honestly. When I say tiny bit like I might have even been imagining it. It seemed to be about and that's pretty good so what about memory accurately 42 gigabytes of memory DivX today's parent. It seems pretty fast pretty stable yet hate it it's time that that seems to be enough memory for it to hold on -- little lag he went and move it around still a little bit of re drawing going on every once upon this I did not seen the full version of VMware in the beta -- behind. -- Everything in that in that unity that I feel to it yet because that. Exactly exactly -- has this support multiple monitors those Frontline. Pitfalls. What you what you want you what do you do you do for you before you -- installing virtual machine whether it's VMware parallels virtual we need money if it's VMware parallels and it's free if you get virtual box but then you need money for windows -- to have a clean copy of windows that you can activate. And my recommendation is buy an OEM version because you are. Building a machine right virtually. That'll save you some money. Once you got that then it's a matter being willing to move between those cultures. You're gonna have to learn it come and me and control C and it sounds silly but it actually took me about a month to really become comfortable. Moving from one operating system to another and back. -- I use I use I pretty much. It daily weekly basis that meeting XP Vista analyst. Even separate machines they -- work if I spent you know -- hours wondered and then when they're on the same keyboard you don't have that here you can learn like -- when I'm on this keyboard controls it but when on this keyboard when on the same keyboard all the time -- little more mental energy but also -- to -- is probably the minimum you -- Wit Eddie who should be who should not be right where I -- that would be great because my problem used to be you know that. Applications that were available for windows were available analyst -- this is -- the right so gamers. You're not gonna really game and amateur game it is low intensity if it's not a video intensive game but hardcore gamers this you don't want -- desktop that you want to outraged that this is not for you. If it's just a program you can get analyst -- it's like Firefox that is the bookmarks are very you know you if you pay ten you don't need to do that. I am doing it for fun I would say were the best way to go about it is to decide if you do need to do this do you just wanna do it pretty -- or outlook outlook is a really good example entourage is not great. In OS-X and my boss does that he has always had. Yes and and in my opinion. Mostly on drugs is fabulous tool yet you. Q and what are below its number look up to say entourage has problems. That outlook doesn't have to -- what my boss does is he actually runs OS-X but -- puts outlook in unity mode. Running in you know it's a little box and it's as if he's an outlook on Mac so he gets all those features about opening this is an -- very cool."

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" This episode of system has brought you by Microsoft unified communications. Netflix dot com and GoDaddy -- job. Today we're gonna be talking about running windows on your Mac. While running OS-X at the same time it's not impossible it's not thanks to the wonderful world of virtualization. How to run virtual PCs at your back on this episode of systems."

" One question me constantly yours is that K let's step by step install VMware fusion or parallels. -- But I want to or windows simultaneously. With -- OS-X. We got so we email we decided finally to do something about it -- is the flood of emails we drag and an old friend you spent weeks ignored his wife dot. And the opening the deal movies only not be opening an Oakland -- I copy opening you can't yet so why -- you're actually manage to sort out VMware and parallels and boot camp before you know what. They Yemen join me walking CNET executive editor the host of buzz out loud mr. Tom Merritt. Well showtime entrapment Patrick is -- times you use it at all lucky you got obsessed with this."

" Yeah well it's started with actually that would hold it. Look -- mean what does virtualization. Why did you get it that's okay so virtualization. Is the idea of creating a virtual machine that's running on the processor of the real machine right with a fake processor fake monitor fake graphics card the whole spiel. Essentially and then that way you can install the OS on this virtual machine and run in different OS in the when your running. Inside that OS you can run windows inside OS-X have. Outlook running an Internet Explorer and all the windows application you would why without having to leave OS-X but it's not emulation. It's in good questions not exactly and mutilation right. Obviously as -- rockets that eBay has the difference between and in relation virtualization doesn't so when you and you wait. You're like tells them you're pushing emulation -- emulation you're emulating like a Sega Genesis right here pretending to -- bashing that machine it's is there a big difference between now its its its its politically it open for debate and talk on and don't know why did you say that you this is like. Right what wire bra and why it were windows to a virtual machine rather than with the all right so I was running windows on this MacBook pro almost exclusively and it does best when does she ever hacked during using boot camp. But there're couple things in OS-X that I want to take advantage. Then boot camp two point one came outline. And there was a problem. That I later found that was because of a keyboard remember I was using that cause windows to freeze randomly. Every ten or fifteen minutes so they love happily booting windows through boot camp and it would for so I went over to OS-X and figured you know what. I ill just do this virtualization thing -- run windows and virtualization I'd done parallels before. So I fired that back out and I realized hey look at that I can get garage band and I can get that if you like it -- kind of the -- dvds I can get -- these wonderful. Apple only. Perks and still have outlook and I. My entire machine that I had on the other partition. All in one so basically you -- in the quietly do your biggest that he was gonna give you Apple personable let's is mind. Not anybody else's machine doubts and that's and a lot of flexibility wanted to be able to go like go into windows. And get access its video OS-X side and go into -- tanning get access to win the -- it didn't matter what side it was then. I can do ever want and -- basically it's just you know -- keyboard combo you flip back and forth realistic virtual machine. Yeah I didn't even have -- that's what I've got a right now I've got the virtual machine over a different one of spaces -- you -- stood yet kind of fun and I -- down here and I him and but it this is running full screen but it doesn't have to you can actually go in there and view it in different ways than it actually get into VMware. So you don't have to you can go and and view -- different ways you can have a single window. So that you're actually running your OS-X applications right next the entire. Windows or you can do what's called unity or it's called coherence in parallels and actually -- individual wolves. Windows applications in their own windows right next newest tactic so that's what are the differences between VMware and parallels. Well it and curls and VMware are almost identical although I'm sure their respective product managers would point -- extensive differences between the parallel and boys are beginning -- are there are when I when I was using parallels and I was like they're gonna switch to VMware should I got all kinds of crazy people saying absolutely are no don't do it. Frankly. Peer parallels and VMware's full versions I really found not that much difference for -- and be a little slicker. In running but the -- they were the same VMware fusion has a beta out and that's what I'm using right here that allows you. To take a program and put it on multiple monitors. Amongst a few other tweaks. Parallels and the current. Stable version of him mark had a interest and is actually the third one at that too much time. Well -- ever try to get virtual box from virtual box dot -- it's a son project -- open office. That's totally free parallels and VMware. Eighty bucks if you want to have if you want to use of continuously -- pretty box is an important VMware applications we've. The -- and how it felt like that right south it was like server virtualization -- big time big iron he believed it virtualization and that parables came out -- like -- forty books like global -- box it and peripherals like also -- not. And I -- virtual box which I is that haven't tried I don't know well I -- want to try it are are you currently more favorite VMware over parallels which is more stable for. Parallels is actually a little more stable but I like the VMware fusion beta because of the extra ability to use multiple monitors -- get back. From the mr. early adopters who look like what's available -- You know basically release code right now. If you're gonna drop your -- and one of these drop it on parallels if I'm Tom Merritt from 1999. I'd go virtual box. If I want like you know on the Tom -- they're you know ten years from now -- little I don't know if I want -- Mess around with open source software anymore because I have some strange fear of it. I'd probably go parallels about it. My experience was almost identical they're both very stable but couldn't when you -- and you know. Web sites and applications -- pretty much everything happens to rid of it won't run inside of virtual machine. Yeah. Games. Not all games like your hardcore gamer this is not a solution for you you're not gonna run. A really good frame rate inside because. You are running -- kind of gunned down machine and it's got -- it's Gaza for allegedly processor here processor virtualization. In the virtual machine. As far as like. You know quick in Microsoft Word outlook all of those things they run. Just -- slower -- just like that tiny millisecond have a response time later but otherwise. I've got to see. That is a brief message from Microsoft."

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" What to walk us through installing like XP you're Vista inside VMware -- out of boot camp -- because it just visible if you boot camp partition and boom it's pretty much just got to do a few things to make it happen to basically if you or we have boot camp installed. VMware parallels that was it basically hooks -- an analyst yeah and recognizes the boot camp partition -- you have boot camp no problems so what it's gonna do is its gonna go and and it's going to rewrite the Activision activation code which means you may have to reactivate which if you're like me and you've tried -- about ten times you may have to go through a very long. Call to Microsoft does actually tip for anybody -- into this if it's the same machine you're not lying to call them up and say I just rebuilt my entire machine it's almost all new parts but it's the same machine and I please reactivate windows and they -- the machine on the other and we'll say yes you can here's an activation -- you put in a bunch of numbers. It works. If you're starting from scratch and don't you just go through it pretty step by step instructions going to ask."

" He was operating system. You want anonymous a Vista that is to say Vista Y night. It's like the name for the virtual machine and choose the folder where this virtual machine will be created so we actually have. You can re name it you can put it wherever you want I'm gonna keep it in virtual machines so that my boot camp and so on those are all in the same place. It's gonna say how much of the disk do you want to give over to this operating systems on. And it's giving me the maximum capacity that I can take I don't think I want that. What you have to remember is that it will grow over time. That's the nice thing in the bad thing is that it doesn't have an -- Hard drive so if it starts to run out of space can just take more -- that it will grow larger user applications of files you -- right into you have a flexible. Virtual hard disk that you exist in this Ellie Andy you haven't you partition on -- driving this -- later hours yet -- have the virtual machine you have you have a files that is on your machine that had your entire operating system and all your files that I mean like. You're running Lewiston on this machine cluster running your virtual machines do you just accessing it in OS-X or is because I think it of the -- and yet best verses each of us plus can't read this thank you great great great great you can you can drag and drop. From the virtual machine to -- OS-X hard drive and back again and then they set up a shared folder. But you can actually access from within OS-X with a girl listened operating systems -- answers here -- shared -- make it easy or you can. So you can transfer over the internal network essentially to be to the other -- applicability have to enter in your password to windows product key -- you installing either of us yeah how well and that's for the activation stuff comes in -- to put that product key and and then when it when it goes on it'll automatically activate itself. And -- The twelfth time and it's gonna go ahead and installed -- give you a warning saying windows genuine advantage to keep pirated -- or somebody else it is -- column. Like I said it talent that you rebuilt the machine essentially then you'll be activated would have. Well I'd have to create a password here analysts agreed yeah. Product can act act act act. Everybody out there looking for a witnesses this. -- is it possible that it that the government of situation because you've you've obviously activated like a dozen times in a couple days if you were shut down the alleged activated now every time I have had to call it's a long drawn out process you have to put an end Mike. Theatre read over the phone to voice recognition software from Microsoft about 2324. Characters and then they gave you 24 characters that you have to type and and then your August so at this point do you have this by any other PC just on this particular I mean him jealous of your users of multiple machines and no I'm not actually I'm not even using that that is a totally clean copy of Vista this copy of XP is on boot camp and being fertilized mouse. So then yeah it's gonna just say I do is so it was okay as soon. NASA now -- the disk crash happened just -- it needs this I put that in and then you're gonna see. You just -- normal installation widgets and would you like me to vote this what -- hey why not pollute it would -- a Microsoft actually lets you have eight boot camp installation plus he virtual installation. Did both of those require activation. Yes -- and that's what VMware and parallels do. That messes with each other which is why can't run parallels and VMware at the same time because it it was for so so you activate a boot camp then you go and install it and windows says wait a minute I'm on a new machine because essentially it is. And you have to reactivated but what VMware does it is. It. Installs what VMware does is it installs some tools that allow that activation happened just that one more time. And then whether you're going to boot camp or whether you go into the virtual machine. It's going to be able to tell windows no it's okay this is the same machine but if you go in the -- running in parallels off boot camp. Parallels is going to see that VMware activation code and go now. Battle needs to be reactivated now -- windows freaks out so every time you go switching from one virtualization to the other. You have activation problems that's -- kind of have to settle on one."

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" Coherence and unity. I understand. -- RA in both VMware and parallels -- you have the ability to break a program out. And haven't looked just like any other program in Austin. Even though it's a windows program that's right it just runs and it's a little yes -- got the entire OS and a window right now you can see it's like hanging out here. Buy it what program would you like to run -- you know."

" Tan independently. Game and -- is attempting intimacy. At a density that -- weird time. So I'm gonna launch a destiny here. Inside the little. Magical windows environment so there is all crushed up in there could put then you press this'll unity -- that's called coherence in parallels. Okay so coherence and unity are the same thing yeah ones in parallels. VM parallels like caller coherence and VMware the code candidates the same thing. Boom so here is horrifying how that -- so we here and now that's right next here and I can actually. Minimize it. And it will go down into the dock. Very hear those knock them down looks just like eight and windows. Program acceptance here in comic. Out. So that's a lagging as a drum machine so let's -- That's so cool so basically if -- loyalists and that's not the end of the cool hold on. Because if you look down here below the dock. The start menu is actually down here behind the dock. Business suit design so if you go on the system perhaps. And you move the dock it over to the right. Now you've got a both windows and OS-X running on one screen and you can actually go down here and it's just creepy audacity area. Model right -- now you design in the kitchen and."

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" Apple while -- admiring the crest VMware fusion have you had issues finding drivers needed for for the -- I guess the drivers for its all of their for the MacBook and MacBook pros when and if you're actually using -- couldn't -- as I see your little you know -- deal. Do you you're using a windows machine so as long as you've got windows drivers available for something which boot camp -- good boot camp provides windows drivers for everything. You can also go appear individual virtual machine and select what you want to connect to the virtual machine. So for instance -- Little friend down here. I can go in and disconnect the network. Any USB actually I think this is technically connected via US because there it is TDMA. Connections over there right there I can connect it to VMware I can disconnected from VMware and USB device that I -- I can allow the virtual machine access to it -- not through this man. You -- really useful over the that I never would have thought of of course until it needed the three fingered salute when I -- you said it was funny now it's useful. What they have what control alt delete right which I have to now and windows when her in a virtual machine. You have to -- the function key. To be able to make control alt -- work. Because this the MacBook pro and the keys are essentially you control function properly and works with appropriate result of options -- he would want to not notice this yes does that does the Apple command key work like this. Yes it does it actually re mapped as it windows scheme when your in the virtual machine boot camp does that as well. And the C typical sort of side by side hero world thing which brings us to what I understand your favorite aspect of running virtual machines not the you know the utility of running windows applications analyst but actually cutting and pasting between the operating systems -- cut and paste it to fancy paying and yes it's -- everything what is. Hello -- Norton that Casey go and notepad right in windows now you have to there's an occupational hazard here because your role in both. It's control. Acts. And notepad not command access control X and windows right in windows and then when you go to text that it you know OS-X it's. Command. V. But you can cut and paste between everything -- your revenues and control it from -- to -- let me show you what happens if you're in windows in the do command beat him. Then it starts typing he's constantly I don't know why does that. Don't really kind of fascinating that was market I call that way -- glitch in the beta. I don't know I think it does that the regular went through what about moving between because we cover the -- before until a little more about sharing files are moving files between OS-X and you're virtual machine okay you wanna get you want to do that. Let's. Pull up my computer. From the virtual machine. And then we'll put the finder from OS-X."

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" All right so I've got the latest Apple what a full screen I'm gonna do east meets west and and about podcast and OS-X but I've got my. Image that I want for the file over here so want to drag it over. I just grab it literally -- and using third party software to you right to invest -- So it can actually tanks and stuff from us and it into the deepest part yet witness yet. Really yep that's political machine now that's really useful. Yes it actually works as a way to get around. Those issues so there it is there's the one I just moved in W generic one. Right -- there it is. And man. I can say take and you've taxed for some reason I don't know that is. And move it back over here. Nice and a -- tea while you are of course you are you running -- running the suffering need to do that. How that happens is speeds compare. Between running this natively could you read it and you've -- it's the right all the stuff natively. In boot camp how does the virtual machines there -- the virtual machine honestly. The one time I used it totally virtual was. Tiny bit faster secretive because here yet but I honestly. When I say tiny bit like I might have even been imagining it. It seemed to be about and that's pretty good so what about memory accurately 42 gigabytes of memory DivX today's parent. It seems pretty fast pretty stable yet hate it it's time that that seems to be enough memory for it to hold on -- little lag he went and move it around still a little bit of re drawing going on every once upon this I did not seen the full version of VMware in the beta -- behind. -- Everything in that in that unity that I feel to it yet because that. Exactly exactly -- has this support multiple monitors those Frontline. Pitfalls. What you what you want you what do you do you do for you before you -- installing virtual machine whether it's VMware parallels virtual we need money if it's VMware parallels and it's free if you get virtual box but then you need money for windows -- to have a clean copy of windows that you can activate. And my recommendation is buy an OEM version because you are. Building a machine right virtually. That'll save you some money. Once you got that then it's a matter being willing to move between those cultures. You're gonna have to learn it come and me and control C and it sounds silly but it actually took me about a month to really become comfortable. Moving from one operating system to another and back. -- I use I use I pretty much. It daily weekly basis that meeting XP Vista analyst. Even separate machines they -- work if I spent you know -- hours wondered and then when they're on the same keyboard you don't have that here you can learn like -- when I'm on this keyboard controls it but when on this keyboard when on the same keyboard all the time -- little more mental energy but also -- to -- is probably the minimum you -- Wit Eddie who should be who should not be right where I -- that would be great because my problem used to be you know that. Applications that were available for windows were available analyst -- this is -- the right so gamers. You're not gonna really game and amateur game it is low intensity if it's not a video intensive game but hardcore gamers this you don't want -- desktop that you want to outraged that this is not for you. If it's just a program you can get analyst -- it's like Firefox that is the bookmarks are very you know you if you pay ten you don't need to do that. I am doing it for fun I would say were the best way to go about it is to decide if you do need to do this do you just wanna do it pretty -- or outlook outlook is a really good example entourage is not great. In OS-X and my boss does that he has always had. Yes and and in my opinion. Mostly on drugs is fabulous tool yet you. Q and what are below its number look up to say entourage has problems. That outlook doesn't have to -- what my boss does is he actually runs OS-X but -- puts outlook in unity mode. Running in you know it's a little box and it's as if he's an outlook on Mac so he gets all those features about opening this is an -- very cool."

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