Watercooling is Fun!
Monday, April 28th, 2008 running time 34:41
On David Randolph's final episode we go deep inside the thermal management on a $5000 PC, install a watercooling kit on the $500 and fabricate a fan adapter with the VersaLASER.
Greg writes in, "I'm building a new gaming PC, and I'm trying to get as much power as I can, while being as quiet as possible, and still have adequate cooling. Could you guys do a segment on liquid cooling? Are combo kits, like the Thermaltake Bigwater 760i comparable to building a custom system piece by piece? And are the results worth the money?"
Oooooh good questions! In order: yes, they're simpler to set up and install tho they might not have all the bits you want and maybe... we go deep on water cooling for David Randolph's last episode of Systm.
If you've never dabled in water cooling, it's all about removing heat from the components in your machine using water instead of air, tho instead of having a 'cooling jacket' designed into the engine block, you attach a waterblock to the component you want to cool on your motherboard (or GPU, HD, memory, etc) in place of a heat sink, along with a set of tubes, a heat exchangher (ie, radiator) along with a pump to move your coolant.
The process works like the radiator and coolant in your car, unless, of course, you're driving something that's air cooled like a vintage VW Bug
Why do people watercool? 'Cause H20 transfers heat better than air. And if you have a quiet pump, your machine can be super silent.
On the show we go inside a spectacular example of water cooling (and thermal management), HP's BLACKBIRD002.
Then we replace the 'quiet' fan on Patrick's $500 PC with a kit from CoolerMaster, the AQUAGATE Mini R80... which teaches us three things: 1) There are a lot of parts to track down if you're building a water cooling systm from scratch, so kits are convenient, especially if they make it easy to add in additional waterblocks. 2) If you can hear the pump whine, water cooling doesn't seem very quiet, even if it -is- quieter than the fan it replaced 3) Order a 120mm kit if you have a 120mm fan so David doesn't have to fabricate an adapter on the VersaLASER to make your kit fit! 4) Chances are you'll be mail ordering your water cooling supplies... even here in tech heavy San Francisco, CA, water cooling supplies were -thin- on the shelves of the half dozen stores we checked in on.
That said, the results can be pretty amazing. Patrick is still running Prime95 against a small stack of air coolers and the R80 to max out the processor (and thus max out the heat thrown at the cooler), but early testing under light cooling suggest a 20 degree drop in processor temps (From an average of 55 °C to 32 °C). He'll be posting his results up in the forum and will link here... it takes about an hour to swap out the mobo for each cooler change along with at least an hour of Prime95 to get things stable.
Did we mention links? Of course we did. Our fave makers of water cooling parts include CoolerMaster, Koolance, Swiftech, ThermalTake and Zalman.
Places to buy water cooling bits and pieces? Check out Xoxideand Newegg.
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Highlights
River Phoenix
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13:52, 13:52
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hard drives
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united states
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graphics processor
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River Phoenix
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13:52, 13:52
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hard drives
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5:05, 11:28, 5:05, 11:28
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united states
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0:02, 9:24, 0:02, 9:24
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graphics processor
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11:35, 11:35
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" Basically there you know systems integrator and support system. Facility and basically what I'm gonna be no one is over there working with all these clients that don't want people to know that they're hiring companies do support."
" And let me tell you it's an impressive list. Speaking of impressive this motherboard is not dead. Do over -- Now now. This is motherboard is dead -- and I wanted to kill clocking tomorrow that was years ago here I haven't had until mobile I think America would ever kill motherboard before. But we do we have today actually -- is about well you know we got a few emails. Including this one from -- in north -- that I built into gaming PC and try to get but apparently Campbell being quiet as possible and still an adequate cooling. Yeah to a segment on liquid cooling. Are complicated and the thermal take big water 760 I compare all the building custom system piece by piece of results work the money. Great it's a great question. And yet desperate for a one of the things is actually kind of fascinating is is you have to shop carefully right -- Water conducts heat better than right. Not as good as copper is copper bottom is that you can -- them through them where it wants to conduct heat. And the -- view the whole idea here is basically it's amusing. Well that's all this is like incredible. This is -- stock Intel and chips of the core two duo and that."
" Fancy thing over there. Head of the copper and exclusion glass is basically that this is them both facing vertically. Processor right here big chunk of copper feeding group of heat pipes -- viscous liquid heats up beside the pipes and the fans have lots of surface. Area and this Intel. Is relying less on a quiet fan more money big loud fans looking through these aluminum. Or aluminum and on the silly to call it's -- it."
" One of the big things this is that you can -- look at your fans here. And the use this isn't like steel barons and Wyatt Aaron stuff like that and that's something look for an any fans and yes."
" It is the quieter and quieter like quiet and it's pretty interesting if it's all about moving from the coolest machine. And three either cools us me your car is water cooling water cooling issues in industrial applications -- used in nuclear. How facilities just to keep from -- you know rules nuclear subs I mean basically it's all the ideas using water remove heat from hot area. Rectory -- cool water all this and act. Like percent in Q water transfer and there. Now special bonus if you have a quiet -- and that's a big one because every so often somebody does something horrible like he's like a diaphragm pump kind of thing here fish tank room and and here."
" Whenever at least PCs running truly anoint -- a quiet pond you can basically. Making incredibly quiet system with more cool. -- Right in its simplest form. Water cooling basically consists of water block or agitated simplest form your PCU water block which are holding right here. That connects to the top of your processor you GPU they also have variations of water blocks it'll attach your hard drives and the idea. Is that you have water answering. It runs up against the surface of the processor or the surface the water architects of the processor draws with much it is possible. And sends it back out now there's a pump in this particular device what is that is it's the -- RC. Awkward geeks it cooler master device that's correct so we actually bad deal you can see the electrical pump is actually built right in the device right here. Around electrical pump is the reservoir and then you have heat exchanger the other and which is basically in good time reading yours for some time inquiry they're so cute. And the whole idea this kid actually Agassi cancer really appealing when you're when you're talking about water cooling -- you have a lot of parts -- talk about those. A little bit later on the kit likeness. Basically you have all the parts you -- As long as the two --"
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" Typing with -- run by the board damn there go down a little bit. That's actually heat pipe that runs for the -- of the north bridge -- the components on there the memory has passive -- basically is based do you think on there and then. Right here is where things get really interesting is that. Showing PC copper is the heat sink urgency water block attacks the CPU. What's really interesting about this is pullback literally next is -- a box underneath. This whole main area of the motherboard. And Dave's gonna pop that open."
" And they've actually isolated the heat from the GP news in its own little box -- keep it from heating up the motherboard. That'll area can -- in there and we've got the GPs are actually cooled. So this into the water cooling pipes to stand down easily GPU's. And they have a third area. To a pop the little. You see the -- all the local section imperial tool section up there -- include the tools tools are actually built with it. What the Philips and on. The fan assembly actually. There's a fan assembly and then a about the fan assembly is it pretty healthy pair of -- would be -- But it to a trickle -- systematic I was history."
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" They actually have the power supply also isolated from the motherboard and the graphics cards kind of keep the heat contained. And that's pretty amazing example of water -- system basically. Both -- graphics cards. And your processor and then we'll do some passive cooling on the motherboard flack yes and it dies it's got. You know for you he'd been molded non functional like I thought actually that tanker accident part of top of the case. Just for aesthetics well its its like it looks like a giant looks like -- have Pena. Piece of 1940s here hot rod equipment users in this cast holding hands everywhere."
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" Noisily to -- It's really -- in water blocks. CPU lot of oxygen primary VG water blocks which would be for you and yours GPU's. He also -- north bridge watermark you can pretty much do drives and you ran into. You're not gonna find this stuff that you of computer shop unless you have a really out of control local computer shop. Roger and I pretty much hit every computer shop in the Bay Area -- I think that we got all kinds of commuter. -- around here and there's a very limited selection. So laws oxides are commoners if you -- website school have with in the show notes are great places or this stuff on line. Now right now space we -- about so you know and hard drives ran corporates either kind of probably overkill. You know this is a fairly low power graphics processor and here's -- axes of passive cooler. Programs not running cons are worth bridge no one of these did you actually you're looking Q over -- for anyone who over clock here. -- certainly -- front side by storm when you know things on the motherboard and actually putting any liquid cooling block -- water block on that north bridge might help things out. So in addition that of course you're gonna need a pump heat exchanger which is your Reidy your your heat sink -- are usually built in there. And the things that your -- going to come and kit or you're gonna have to -- separately if you search -- and all this stuff together if you're certainly do stuff like in north Koreans and VGA cooler you probably going to be probably get of course a lot of sources. Two beings. And the beatings and plant them all together. Tell us it's a long list it's kind of pain in the focus. One night I say that would love right because -- remember some areas. You know you want to look around -- want to spend time reading into it. You know the Zalman coolers. He hit the cooler master having here sounds louder than nineteen decimals so connecting DV editing is -- that. But basically you want to read ram because. For great for example if you want the quiet system. You have to shop carefully and you're gonna have to wonder media you're not gonna get as much of -- benefit on the cooling. With the water cooling and you should get better cooling off the water cooling system but it may not be particularly noticeable especially if you're not over clocking. And this they want more time kids are really convenient because they help put all of the parts together in one place."
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" And easier to pull off the current heat sink which spin master one which unfortunately requires polygamy basically pulling everything off of the motherboard and pulling the motherboard. Out of the system. So I can remove -- cooler master is here."
" all of a note for people that I haven't done this before. Mom if you look on the bottom of heat sinks or processing always knows kind of great -- sometime this white stuff like that. That's the thermal paste and use that want to re apply thermal paste -- clean off the area. If you take this off or when you put a new one on because. This is what actually conducts heat directly from processor. Up in the us it's very important to watch out for. Another had a bunch of plates for it and basically that we -- by the -- don't have to buy that kit for that processor which is pretty nice. And we actually pulled out the one we have for at. And follow the instructions every kit is definitely different every kid's got its own little rules and you know formats how you're supposed to do things and when it comes with a bag full screws like that that's definitely not something to read. So -- Ivan briefly looking through it and following them around. And it's not that that it's actually pretty decent. You know it's got you know its its physical force that's the screws. And that some of these kids be careful on this terrorism look exercises. Because they start doing things like this. Where they actually. Double tap me on to screw with two different sizes on it so that's pretty common in a lot of these PC market so."
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" Kind of for our purposes ethical going to be okay and this will this -- grace wanted to think about actually -- when you're gonna this is. Is that -- some great resources on line who actually -- your idea of how efficient or records going to be. Yes it should actually be more efficient than air cooling although you'd be surprised if you're out over clocking a decent air cooling system is probably more than enough. To keep your system in a relatively. Safe operating range temperaturewise. And it -- make it -- determine this before the show is realizing how much quieter. The motherboard in the system themselves and their designs. In a much cleaner fashion actually the north bridges in these cases are easily passively cool -- people. Thesis. Pizza sitting right here you're you're CPU cooler recuperate there. And if you're talking about you know obviously you've probably noticed at this point that things like the."
" Power supplies require required actually it was power supplies are out there which are neat thing if you want to cut about reducing noise inside that system. So one of these also want to do is if you want to get a really good at Hewlett about this stuff working into the future processor -- and if you really want to get an -- processors and -- prime 95 with the stock cooler right Spitzer replied that five the stock cooler for electric power and I'll give you good idea of how efficient your stock. Heat -- is here he's -- fan combination. So actually I mean one of -- can use obviously you -- processor temperature for the better or worse you play around with some of these and we'll talk about it in the forums kind of results forgetting of the Solomon cooler purses. A couple of the different who restaurant we have here now. We're gonna patients going this kids we're gonna talk too much there isn't I think it's pretty obvious -- goes together."
" So does the thermal paste it comes with a box. And one to recommend people is an Arctic silver must suck yeah exactly. I recommend to people that they get their own to you know this. There's usually barely enough in here -- wants. And we'll hook you won't hit again we should point that you don't need a life you just want a little bit it's gonna go in between. The top of your processor and the your -- thank you for just enough for coverage yet we're not talking about Slattery piles on if you put too much on you can actually and that. Kind of preventing decent connection between your heat sink. And your processor. You can see that's."
" Getting really do very little paste I really want to add a little more to this so accident. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna open up our other kit we have a cubicle to going to put just a little bit more on this. Feel free to do is brought this into my system that wouldn't -- you know 'cause. I mean person in these things are held down and used by spring's pressure anything along outlined. So I'm not too and that's the post was going on with a little bit more Brett. You don't want to be excessive conceived in terms of performance but I do like put that you don't want it insulates. That he thing from the processor that would be that he just went clean contacts and you've got enough on -- Erica. So there of that enough now. Yeah you are really generous with us. I'm gonna spread just a little bits of -- push -- arm processors Google the latter he did it."
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" Since you're just given -- a navigator was one of the interesting they won this thing is so much heavier with that so. Water block on the motherboard so you definitely watch out for that he. System we have -- actually sealed it's got anti -- compound -- what we like Coleman anti freeze in the real world. Built in there and this is actually very preset up or you can happen in your hostess with the point five millimeters. Phillips screwdriver check. Motherboard. -- assumptions she hasn't you're watching this show you probably put a motherboard into -- case on point. And now if you -- probably a Mac user."
" I don't know who belong cables never go through the system. You know and if you have anything and here while people have a PC and then filter system you really -- and -- once it's absolutely fun. They actually did a 500 dollar PC build up."
" On. Tekzilla. Patents -- in December you know back in the days to work computer reseller. And there was a thermal system less on components and one of the things that that I can we tell people that. It was cheaper to build your own computer back in the day. Hard -- it's usually an artist you'll always have to move it -- so it's little harder nowadays to do it but you get better machine I think I think. Well depends on the -- issues for example if you purchase open box -- I did. For the 500 dollar PC in case the motherboard you might find that you end up -- non functioning. Expensive piece of -- I never -- personal motherboard open marks because that means some other idiot out there has found. Bottom -- took her home connector how to put them and then took it back to the store. Yeah probably means he's sort of some stuff out. Which is always that though I have a tendency to walk week."
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" Cable routing I've lived -- Hello and when his group. That's the it -- it now. I don't know phones come back but basically we've routed we've cleared as much here's basically it it has much clean air flows like -- inside of the case. Concept is air through the front and an air out the top and back right -- the -- those players who went right over here. You know."
" Now -- when exiting people and how -- fans some people don't know this there is they settled Markey and what's that little arrow it's on every single thing. And they will show one going right to left and one forward backwards. That is going to show and forget that elected area that shows the direction of air flow so look that I want."
" Every band should happen and that -- you know if you're taken here in our out of the chassis I'll like that to get an area. So we got inside the case and what you can see right here this giant empty circle back here is the 120 millimeter band space. And you see my hand -- right back there you have an adaptor gives them he's universally --"
" Right -- have an adapter because -- had -- want morning America and unfortunately got the eighty -- from which now fans sizes different. So what I a little bit just a little bit so what I did when over the first laser and -- cut myself a nice little adapter plate. So what this actually doesn't hold us up front of it. It mimics the size this the original 120 fan but I haven't openings that I can mount the -- onto it. So we're on the assembled here and get that mounted up and get the radiator mounted properly without that -- Answer specific. So what's gonna happen is actually put the feet on the front front adapters like check your air -- we count. There's fire Foner."
" Air flow is only one of the size and now and there's there it is -- you want it that way. Here you don't."
" Now how is that I mean that's an adapter and -- half -- and I don't think I'll -- In town. So that's all the more reason by 20000 dollar personally -- that at that. To make a two dollar part. What grade."
" When agree XP concerns -- quite system so. Now we're we're not using the hundred putting on your friend was stocked with this case trees and email me if and other cooler -- which is not heavy liquid bearing. And you notice two things it's gonna microphones over here. Get it can't tunnel out. To here."
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" It's oh. Until in the 120 model. But yeah I don't see anything about quiet."
" I think super silent counts is quiet room just and so got in -- battery. So well with drug advertising well it's it's definitely got to shop carefully majoring in return things this -- just. CEO voting."
" Basically just seen the pumped down inside there is definitely. The pump inside this is definitely say that the black things the reader. Is. Definitely there it is -- it's right there is definitely. Pretty -- little louder than I'd like actually."
" The -- between 24 and thirty cent in DV and I think it's pushing towards 37 being a little higher now -- level of measure. But look there's a lot of severe water -- obviously you may want to try to finding quieter. Systems we play area here there's views clear lines you can use dye free series two. -- Put that on the other side of the cables and my very last episode system David. The system -- her Patrick the other place. --"
" With with water cooling it easily rapidly almost instantaneously between 300 to 600 dollar range. Thermo electric coolers -- coolers. Refrigeration systems are pretty well they'll soon be pretty loud. Fancy coolers omens respirators pretty cool cool answers their external consider pretty amazing looking. Zalman -- lance coolest with tech all make. Water cooling parts as oxide dot com is a great website start looking around for Wally world record one of the places new way of course has kind of -- tiger. So to sum up. Great yes in theory it should be quieter. If you choose your part carefully in this case it's definitely latter written this -- went on there and actually should be pretty quiet effort and of those another machine. And it definitely should. Give me a little more efficient. Thermal inside your system breaks could use and water -- away rather than air. That night and acted on that site is here it."
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" You want to tell me about the moisture in the frost in the zap and I just -- computers. Have a small stack there so. On that bridge I can hear it's taken me off but he's coming out immediately. He had not. You know they said it before and we're blue -- air cooler and there -- because Allman and there's quite gets I'm opening that are required that he had. You can hear that appeared of them yeah. Okay great shop carefully on this one personally. I'm -- air cooling for now. Now this is David said Randolph last show so we got a little bit reorganizing. That were reorganizing as many people calling coming up on system. And if we need to hear from you about what you see on the show -- favorite email us system that region three dot com with your ideas no idea is to be a Nazi and we can do it had no idea is to -- you know -- too small. -- that any suggestions perhaps we can figure how to compensate for the absence of our beloved mr. Randolph and that's the PH. And if you did did they say this that we."
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" Is that that a system has brought you by the united states air force Netflix. And go to meeting. Water cooling political. We will bit over -- last week you weren't here you were off negotiating some terms of your departure to a new and exciting job you don't -- I can't be instantly. You can with -- people's -- let's just say he's in the un cool stuff it -- places it is not gonna be sharing word -- with us. So I've actually negotiated a small deal where. Hopefully you'll come to visitors in the future and you retain your body parts. Yeah is that lower all work on maximum. Also -- every once more controversial project it to -- worker removes them instantly path like that but no client revealing no client revealing talent we actually have pulled out anyway let's get to this episode system. On the system I'm -- is better -- I'm Dave Randolph. You're leaving yes yes yes I like is dead motherboard you are practically useless to me no jewelry no friendship just -- hardware. Featuring previews of artwork. No. I'm going to destroy it the second and destroy use it with the clip or kitten actually. You've you've got a the motherboard actually is that despite what the voice of your -- the brewers did. I'm not going transistor you can pretty cool job that you can't talk about at all -- think it. Because I said like he's going to be working with the bottom up every bit kind Reynolds to which. Can't say that it's part of the corporate traditionally don't talk about for clients herbal fire you know like."
" Basically there you know systems integrator and support system. Facility and basically what I'm gonna be no one is over there working with all these clients that don't want people to know that they're hiring companies do support."
" And let me tell you it's an impressive list. Speaking of impressive this motherboard is not dead. Do over -- Now now. This is motherboard is dead -- and I wanted to kill clocking tomorrow that was years ago here I haven't had until mobile I think America would ever kill motherboard before. But we do we have today actually -- is about well you know we got a few emails. Including this one from -- in north -- that I built into gaming PC and try to get but apparently Campbell being quiet as possible and still an adequate cooling. Yeah to a segment on liquid cooling. Are complicated and the thermal take big water 760 I compare all the building custom system piece by piece of results work the money. Great it's a great question. And yet desperate for a one of the things is actually kind of fascinating is is you have to shop carefully right -- Water conducts heat better than right. Not as good as copper is copper bottom is that you can -- them through them where it wants to conduct heat. And the -- view the whole idea here is basically it's amusing. Well that's all this is like incredible. This is -- stock Intel and chips of the core two duo and that."
" Fancy thing over there. Head of the copper and exclusion glass is basically that this is them both facing vertically. Processor right here big chunk of copper feeding group of heat pipes -- viscous liquid heats up beside the pipes and the fans have lots of surface. Area and this Intel. Is relying less on a quiet fan more money big loud fans looking through these aluminum. Or aluminum and on the silly to call it's -- it."
" One of the big things this is that you can -- look at your fans here. And the use this isn't like steel barons and Wyatt Aaron stuff like that and that's something look for an any fans and yes."
" It is the quieter and quieter like quiet and it's pretty interesting if it's all about moving from the coolest machine. And three either cools us me your car is water cooling water cooling issues in industrial applications -- used in nuclear. How facilities just to keep from -- you know rules nuclear subs I mean basically it's all the ideas using water remove heat from hot area. Rectory -- cool water all this and act. Like percent in Q water transfer and there. Now special bonus if you have a quiet -- and that's a big one because every so often somebody does something horrible like he's like a diaphragm pump kind of thing here fish tank room and and here."
" Whenever at least PCs running truly anoint -- a quiet pond you can basically. Making incredibly quiet system with more cool. -- Right in its simplest form. Water cooling basically consists of water block or agitated simplest form your PCU water block which are holding right here. That connects to the top of your processor you GPU they also have variations of water blocks it'll attach your hard drives and the idea. Is that you have water answering. It runs up against the surface of the processor or the surface the water architects of the processor draws with much it is possible. And sends it back out now there's a pump in this particular device what is that is it's the -- RC. Awkward geeks it cooler master device that's correct so we actually bad deal you can see the electrical pump is actually built right in the device right here. Around electrical pump is the reservoir and then you have heat exchanger the other and which is basically in good time reading yours for some time inquiry they're so cute. And the whole idea this kid actually Agassi cancer really appealing when you're when you're talking about water cooling -- you have a lot of parts -- talk about those. A little bit later on the kit likeness. Basically you have all the parts you -- As long as the two --"
" And yes my senator place to going to don't want clear public -- for reasons to be cool well that's a whole other. Section this is gonna take a look at it insane sampled -- oh yeah so this over here. -- at least. Eight people heard doubled true. And weighs about 400 -- put on this thing. And it's a spectacular. Example of the water cooling are actually be thermal management of the art thermal management. Point towards that. Actually see the middle section here particularly close ups and actually see. All the copper."
" Typing with -- run by the board damn there go down a little bit. That's actually heat pipe that runs for the -- of the north bridge -- the components on there the memory has passive -- basically is based do you think on there and then. Right here is where things get really interesting is that. Showing PC copper is the heat sink urgency water block attacks the CPU. What's really interesting about this is pullback literally next is -- a box underneath. This whole main area of the motherboard. And Dave's gonna pop that open."
" And they've actually isolated the heat from the GP news in its own little box -- keep it from heating up the motherboard. That'll area can -- in there and we've got the GPs are actually cooled. So this into the water cooling pipes to stand down easily GPU's. And they have a third area. To a pop the little. You see the -- all the local section imperial tool section up there -- include the tools tools are actually built with it. What the Philips and on. The fan assembly actually. There's a fan assembly and then a about the fan assembly is it pretty healthy pair of -- would be -- But it to a trickle -- systematic I was history."
" That's nice is gonna really thin -- and offensively -- think it's remarkably efficient economy over clocked from the factory. Which aircraft Pamela right now people who don't profit that low -- systems budget and then finally."
" They actually have the power supply also isolated from the motherboard and the graphics cards kind of keep the heat contained. And that's pretty amazing example of water -- system basically. Both -- graphics cards. And your processor and then we'll do some passive cooling on the motherboard flack yes and it dies it's got. You know for you he'd been molded non functional like I thought actually that tanker accident part of top of the case. Just for aesthetics well its its like it looks like a giant looks like -- have Pena. Piece of 1940s here hot rod equipment users in this cast holding hands everywhere."
" And now most of which along with box -- an HD dvd drive on the no blu -- and you go all -- digital camera -- excellent. It's obscene obscene piece. And he in trouble and just not some kids. You know the easiest place that fight with this thing this. Where the cost yeah act that is true that is a religion before. -- for much you can buy several -- actually pretty easy to -- car for the -- that machine 4995. Dollars. Is a lot of cash. Not including shipping or tax now. Speaking of taxes let's take a brief message right now from the united states air force."
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" Are sitting right reality long suffering 500 dollar PC which has eight taken more blood off of me and actually even more -- my fingers into the fan man. And man going away present for you appreciate that we'll blood. -- Here."
" The fan inside of their -- back. The whole in my front of that that allowed us and their back in the day you're north bridge and we probably be labs and maybe keep you can't. Give passing cooler GPU and I'm going to yank the -- there. So right now our our CPU temperature is climbing skyrocketing because we no longer actually pulling -- cooling air through the heat sink. But you notice how quiet everything down and plug it -- you guru yes that's aside and actually."
" We'll see if our water collects doesn't reduce theft."
" Noisily to -- It's really -- in water blocks. CPU lot of oxygen primary VG water blocks which would be for you and yours GPU's. He also -- north bridge watermark you can pretty much do drives and you ran into. You're not gonna find this stuff that you of computer shop unless you have a really out of control local computer shop. Roger and I pretty much hit every computer shop in the Bay Area -- I think that we got all kinds of commuter. -- around here and there's a very limited selection. So laws oxides are commoners if you -- website school have with in the show notes are great places or this stuff on line. Now right now space we -- about so you know and hard drives ran corporates either kind of probably overkill. You know this is a fairly low power graphics processor and here's -- axes of passive cooler. Programs not running cons are worth bridge no one of these did you actually you're looking Q over -- for anyone who over clock here. -- certainly -- front side by storm when you know things on the motherboard and actually putting any liquid cooling block -- water block on that north bridge might help things out. So in addition that of course you're gonna need a pump heat exchanger which is your Reidy your your heat sink -- are usually built in there. And the things that your -- going to come and kit or you're gonna have to -- separately if you search -- and all this stuff together if you're certainly do stuff like in north Koreans and VGA cooler you probably going to be probably get of course a lot of sources. Two beings. And the beatings and plant them all together. Tell us it's a long list it's kind of pain in the focus. One night I say that would love right because -- remember some areas. You know you want to look around -- want to spend time reading into it. You know the Zalman coolers. He hit the cooler master having here sounds louder than nineteen decimals so connecting DV editing is -- that. But basically you want to read ram because. For great for example if you want the quiet system. You have to shop carefully and you're gonna have to wonder media you're not gonna get as much of -- benefit on the cooling. With the water cooling and you should get better cooling off the water cooling system but it may not be particularly noticeable especially if you're not over clocking. And this they want more time kids are really convenient because they help put all of the parts together in one place."
" And there's nothing worse than my gun in our kids that every single mounting plate on it was crazy kills me when you actually. -- forgot that one screw."
" Horror or worse yet you don't have clamps -- to be in place or you don't have enough to me economically or yes thermal paste earning you know Irish buying next into the thermal paste. And large collective sighs -- food you're between you're your last advertisements."
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" And easier to pull off the current heat sink which spin master one which unfortunately requires polygamy basically pulling everything off of the motherboard and pulling the motherboard. Out of the system. So I can remove -- cooler master is here."
" all of a note for people that I haven't done this before. Mom if you look on the bottom of heat sinks or processing always knows kind of great -- sometime this white stuff like that. That's the thermal paste and use that want to re apply thermal paste -- clean off the area. If you take this off or when you put a new one on because. This is what actually conducts heat directly from processor. Up in the us it's very important to watch out for. Another had a bunch of plates for it and basically that we -- by the -- don't have to buy that kit for that processor which is pretty nice. And we actually pulled out the one we have for at. And follow the instructions every kit is definitely different every kid's got its own little rules and you know formats how you're supposed to do things and when it comes with a bag full screws like that that's definitely not something to read. So -- Ivan briefly looking through it and following them around. And it's not that that it's actually pretty decent. You know it's got you know its its physical force that's the screws. And that some of these kids be careful on this terrorism look exercises. Because they start doing things like this. Where they actually. Double tap me on to screw with two different sizes on it so that's pretty common in a lot of these PC market so."
" Watch out for that it's amazing what can you repeat that. Yes that's the -- yeah that's why -- Handkerchief as ecstasy in the shop right now to basically right now instead of having glue. All over this which is gonna make it difficult and you can see actually there's still a little bit of marking their on the surface we can probably so you know sheet of glass and some 1200 -- thousand grit Emery paper but I think we're."
" Kind of for our purposes ethical going to be okay and this will this -- grace wanted to think about actually -- when you're gonna this is. Is that -- some great resources on line who actually -- your idea of how efficient or records going to be. Yes it should actually be more efficient than air cooling although you'd be surprised if you're out over clocking a decent air cooling system is probably more than enough. To keep your system in a relatively. Safe operating range temperaturewise. And it -- make it -- determine this before the show is realizing how much quieter. The motherboard in the system themselves and their designs. In a much cleaner fashion actually the north bridges in these cases are easily passively cool -- people. Thesis. Pizza sitting right here you're you're CPU cooler recuperate there. And if you're talking about you know obviously you've probably noticed at this point that things like the."
" Power supplies require required actually it was power supplies are out there which are neat thing if you want to cut about reducing noise inside that system. So one of these also want to do is if you want to get a really good at Hewlett about this stuff working into the future processor -- and if you really want to get an -- processors and -- prime 95 with the stock cooler right Spitzer replied that five the stock cooler for electric power and I'll give you good idea of how efficient your stock. Heat -- is here he's -- fan combination. So actually I mean one of -- can use obviously you -- processor temperature for the better or worse you play around with some of these and we'll talk about it in the forums kind of results forgetting of the Solomon cooler purses. A couple of the different who restaurant we have here now. We're gonna patients going this kids we're gonna talk too much there isn't I think it's pretty obvious -- goes together."
" So does the thermal paste it comes with a box. And one to recommend people is an Arctic silver must suck yeah exactly. I recommend to people that they get their own to you know this. There's usually barely enough in here -- wants. And we'll hook you won't hit again we should point that you don't need a life you just want a little bit it's gonna go in between. The top of your processor and the your -- thank you for just enough for coverage yet we're not talking about Slattery piles on if you put too much on you can actually and that. Kind of preventing decent connection between your heat sink. And your processor. You can see that's."
" Getting really do very little paste I really want to add a little more to this so accident. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna open up our other kit we have a cubicle to going to put just a little bit more on this. Feel free to do is brought this into my system that wouldn't -- you know 'cause. I mean person in these things are held down and used by spring's pressure anything along outlined. So I'm not too and that's the post was going on with a little bit more Brett. You don't want to be excessive conceived in terms of performance but I do like put that you don't want it insulates. That he thing from the processor that would be that he just went clean contacts and you've got enough on -- Erica. So there of that enough now. Yeah you are really generous with us. I'm gonna spread just a little bits of -- push -- arm processors Google the latter he did it."
" And also actually -- do you think about before we plopped down on the processor."
" It is. Where we're going to -- We're gonna clearance from -- found him. -- or what figure out where to align it -- don't have the polls often put it back on record times --"
" Exactly so got to her watch out for that. Now this is kind of a little bit weird because it's kind of a massive thing I would actually recommend you know doing this government -- this upside down okay. And then little is that right on top -- you want to get just."
" Coming out. Review opposes come. Just -- that. So direction is an issue here horrible crunching noise that's the sound -- music yet another trip central computer. Yeah now let's do this before we -- that the problem of different board manufacturers -- sometimes there's components from. That could be crushed by certain kit so. Before you start tighten them make sure that it's actually cleaning all the components around here is component through means like catheters. And coils and resisters and -- and thousands of servers -- for the news components are not on the system. Just make sure you're gonna push anything down. So now I'm still hold that together and want to go ahead and on you know washroom bolt up gets got a wild connection. Because we have four little cut such into the tubing. -- laws about points. And then we're gonna pull down on top of this complete range for these two incidents. It actually came through very weird ranch. Usually arranged to show what's on the other side to the sultan. I have so constraints slides and then a little like 66 millimeter. Six millimeter home. Carol fencing had your own tool kit ballot stuffing and -- around -- but -- we -- with an -- And her registry it to include solid contact going. -- Really it."
" Seems a little news bits seems very lose this seems to be offset a little bit. So what if anything went wrong."
" So what was all right sort of figured out is that that the anti immigration pads and the plastic watches and -- which look. Quite a lot alike very much like I had I'm on the wrong side. And -- is that we for the preparation had in the monologues on the company physically made a -- there and so that's why do you play it and it's also a reason why a bottle extra thermal paste is you can redo the processor like I had to motherboard me. There you go okay you'll on this home."
" Since you're just given -- a navigator was one of the interesting they won this thing is so much heavier with that so. Water block on the motherboard so you definitely watch out for that he. System we have -- actually sealed it's got anti -- compound -- what we like Coleman anti freeze in the real world. Built in there and this is actually very preset up or you can happen in your hostess with the point five millimeters. Phillips screwdriver check. Motherboard. -- assumptions she hasn't you're watching this show you probably put a motherboard into -- case on point. And now if you -- probably a Mac user."
" I don't know who belong cables never go through the system. You know and if you have anything and here while people have a PC and then filter system you really -- and -- once it's absolutely fun. They actually did a 500 dollar PC build up."
" On. Tekzilla. Patents -- in December you know back in the days to work computer reseller. And there was a thermal system less on components and one of the things that that I can we tell people that. It was cheaper to build your own computer back in the day. Hard -- it's usually an artist you'll always have to move it -- so it's little harder nowadays to do it but you get better machine I think I think. Well depends on the -- issues for example if you purchase open box -- I did. For the 500 dollar PC in case the motherboard you might find that you end up -- non functioning. Expensive piece of -- I never -- personal motherboard open marks because that means some other idiot out there has found. Bottom -- took her home connector how to put them and then took it back to the store. Yeah probably means he's sort of some stuff out. Which is always that though I have a tendency to walk week."
" All right we're -- it up the last the machine -- scatter out water cooler in place mr. Randolph going to show you something pretty -- after he built to make our you know meter. Tank that 120 millimeter fan. Right now signaled the bank one of our sponsors. You can do more travel -- but he's used go to consider driving or flying you -- meeting just hosted online conference right from your computer. Everyone's a -- don't gotomeeting.com. During a conference call and they instantly see your computer desktop on their computers -- Just like me in person but less expensive and less time. The best part you can trying to free for thirty days does is it gotomeeting.com. Click on the try it free brought it into bits of paper -- in the promo code system that's why yes. That's good news.com and -- problem code is system. We're going to host the meeting on Monday and -- it didn't he goes with fifteen of our fans keep your feedback and suggestions for Texas system. If you like participate. Send an email to tech still at Revision 3 guys come the system email with the subject line of code to be eating. Contest that's Tekzilla revision3.com. With go to beauty contest in the subject line -- or go to meeting company and number."
" So you're getting upset I was yank an opposite sides has always causes you to just twitch -- because they you know I got my cables is about that the cleanest."
" Cable routing I've lived -- Hello and when his group. That's the it -- it now. I don't know phones come back but basically we've routed we've cleared as much here's basically it it has much clean air flows like -- inside of the case. Concept is air through the front and an air out the top and back right -- the -- those players who went right over here. You know."
" Now -- when exiting people and how -- fans some people don't know this there is they settled Markey and what's that little arrow it's on every single thing. And they will show one going right to left and one forward backwards. That is going to show and forget that elected area that shows the direction of air flow so look that I want."
" Every band should happen and that -- you know if you're taken here in our out of the chassis I'll like that to get an area. So we got inside the case and what you can see right here this giant empty circle back here is the 120 millimeter band space. And you see my hand -- right back there you have an adaptor gives them he's universally --"
" Right -- have an adapter because -- had -- want morning America and unfortunately got the eighty -- from which now fans sizes different. So what I a little bit just a little bit so what I did when over the first laser and -- cut myself a nice little adapter plate. So what this actually doesn't hold us up front of it. It mimics the size this the original 120 fan but I haven't openings that I can mount the -- onto it. So we're on the assembled here and get that mounted up and get the radiator mounted properly without that -- Answer specific. So what's gonna happen is actually put the feet on the front front adapters like check your air -- we count. There's fire Foner."
" Air flow is only one of the size and now and there's there it is -- you want it that way. Here you don't."
" Now how is that I mean that's an adapter and -- half -- and I don't think I'll -- In town. So that's all the more reason by 20000 dollar personally -- that at that. To make a two dollar part. What grade."
" When agree XP concerns -- quite system so. Now we're we're not using the hundred putting on your friend was stocked with this case trees and email me if and other cooler -- which is not heavy liquid bearing. And you notice two things it's gonna microphones over here. Get it can't tunnel out. To here."
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" More importantly -- this. Tim is quite that that's the -- now. So my quite a little bit we put the lid on books. Particular we've put a little -- with -- but it definitely. I think I think thanks. I actually think it's was quieter. With the original fan and there. Is being here this band. And we get we hear that popped out going to be a little quieter with them with assign the keys on them. And -- That pop here that's a pretty high pitched whine so I don't think that's pump was actually created to be quiet and thinking."
" It's oh. Until in the 120 model. But yeah I don't see anything about quiet."
" I think super silent counts is quiet room just and so got in -- battery. So well with drug advertising well it's it's definitely got to shop carefully majoring in return things this -- just. CEO voting."
" Basically just seen the pumped down inside there is definitely. The pump inside this is definitely say that the black things the reader. Is. Definitely there it is -- it's right there is definitely. Pretty -- little louder than I'd like actually."
" The -- between 24 and thirty cent in DV and I think it's pushing towards 37 being a little higher now -- level of measure. But look there's a lot of severe water -- obviously you may want to try to finding quieter. Systems we play area here there's views clear lines you can use dye free series two. -- Put that on the other side of the cables and my very last episode system David. The system -- her Patrick the other place. --"
" With with water cooling it easily rapidly almost instantaneously between 300 to 600 dollar range. Thermo electric coolers -- coolers. Refrigeration systems are pretty well they'll soon be pretty loud. Fancy coolers omens respirators pretty cool cool answers their external consider pretty amazing looking. Zalman -- lance coolest with tech all make. Water cooling parts as oxide dot com is a great website start looking around for Wally world record one of the places new way of course has kind of -- tiger. So to sum up. Great yes in theory it should be quieter. If you choose your part carefully in this case it's definitely latter written this -- went on there and actually should be pretty quiet effort and of those another machine. And it definitely should. Give me a little more efficient. Thermal inside your system breaks could use and water -- away rather than air. That night and acted on that site is here it."
" included in my refrigerator and the music you can extend her. And then you know quiet and cool."
" You want to tell me about the moisture in the frost in the zap and I just -- computers. Have a small stack there so. On that bridge I can hear it's taken me off but he's coming out immediately. He had not. You know they said it before and we're blue -- air cooler and there -- because Allman and there's quite gets I'm opening that are required that he had. You can hear that appeared of them yeah. Okay great shop carefully on this one personally. I'm -- air cooling for now. Now this is David said Randolph last show so we got a little bit reorganizing. That were reorganizing as many people calling coming up on system. And if we need to hear from you about what you see on the show -- favorite email us system that region three dot com with your ideas no idea is to be a Nazi and we can do it had no idea is to -- you know -- too small. -- that any suggestions perhaps we can figure how to compensate for the absence of our beloved mr. Randolph and that's the PH. And if you did did they say this that we."
" And now is the result there's that thing about the high gain in the court order. There's that thing you know that we had to hold her husband's yet. -- guy with -- fifth guy hug outside of the sopranos episode never. And yeah. I. Don't think that the sooner he is even more like totally masculine. Which is pretty funny on your groceries -- School that I did it blows. Hug you can you're very the saddest thing ever played -- and awkwardness and I'm gonna miss you. But you never really cool job it can't talk about his secret agent dues. -- better Norton and it ran off in licenses them. Always -- laser -- he had been asking for such things."










