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Router Picks, $800 Gaming PC, Intel Developer Forum, Mouse On Glass, HTC Hero, Top Emergency Generator Tip Ever

Thursday, October 1st, 2009 – running time 43:55
Perfect Travel Mouse: Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX, HTC Hero, Lock Down The Party Printer In Your Dorm. Anand Shimpi on IDF, Loyd Case's $800 Gaming PC (And a much better $500 PC CPU) 802.11n: Fon Fonera 2.0, Netgear WNDR3700 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router, Linksys WRT610N Simultaneous Dual-N Band Wireless Router, Top Emergency Generator Tip Ever, GDGT's Ryan Block Co-Hosts!

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Welcome to Tekzilla... hands on reviews of the latest tech, and how to make the most out of the gear you already own! Ryan Block from GDGT hosts with Patrick Norton today. (Veronica Belmont is on assignment and will be back next week.)

HTC Hero

Description: We asked Ryan what shiny new tech he had for testing and he showed off the nifty interface on the HTC Hero. (Patrick's obsessed with the mock 70's alarm clock numbers!) Find out if Ryan will dump his iPhone for a Hero on the video!

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DGT.com Got Some New Features!

Patrick had to ask: what's new at the GDGT website? Ryan tells us about the personalized home page and new friend finder features on the show. If you haven't seen this social network for gadget geeks, check it out!

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802.11n: After 7 Years, The Spec Is Final

As of September 11th, 802.11n Is Finally Final. So, yes, it's safe to upgrade if your'e looking for the extra bandwidth, and Draft 2.0 802.11n products don't have to be re-certified to qualify for the final spec. Chances are your current 802.11n gear will qualify... tho some newer 802.11n gear might not deliver top performance connecting to your existing network devices. And hardware Gigabit Ethernet will still beat it in many environments.

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802.11n Router Suggestions: Fon, Linksys, Netgear

Ryan's had a chance to get hands on with Fon's Fonera 2.0 802.11n Router, which packs a ridiculous set of features (YouTube and Flickr uploaders, a built in BitTorrent client, USB for a 3G modem, USB drives and printers, even Twitter status updates! ) along with the promise of generating revenue if you create a FON spot.

Patrick checked the epic Wireless Chartsover at SmallNetBuilder.com and went with the best dual band router he could find locally, the Linksys WRT610N Simultaneous Dual-N Band Wireless Router.

And, about two weeks ago, the NETGEAR WNDR3700 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router hit the streets... which delivers much better thoughput in weaker signal locations than the WRT610N, at least on the 2.4GHz radio... if you have a bunch of high bandwidth users, going 802.11n could be a boon for network performance!

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Free Software: NetNewsWire for the iPhone

From Newsgator, the people that make FeedDemon for Windows and NetNewsWire for OS X.... the iPhone version of NetNewsWire for the iPhone grabs and caches content so you can read your feeds even when you don't have a connection, works with Google Reader, can send links to Instapaper or Twitter, and more! If you need an RSS reader for the iPhone, check it out!

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Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX: This Laser Mouse Works On Glass

Laser mice rule, until you try to use one on a glass table in a hotel... then they fail. Ryan's had the hell of glass tables in hotel rooms again and again... the Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX solves the problem with "Darkfield Laser Tracking" and it does it wirelessly. Business travellers rejoice!

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Intel Developer Forum 2009: Anand Shimpi

Intel does its best to mold the future of PC hardware and consumer electronics at its annual Developer Forum. Anandtech.com's founder Anand Shimpi joins us to talk about what's going on with Lynnfield, Evergreen, Larrabee, Westmere and SSDs, what's on the way, and the really interesting stuff that went on -around- the show!

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Website We Can't Get Enough Of: DataLiberation.org

Run by a team of Google engineers, DataLiberation.org guides you through the process of snatching your data back from the Google overlords and storing it safely on your own hard drive. Whether it's Gmail, Picasa, Blogger, Youtube, or even your web history.... DataLiberation provides step-by-step instructions that guide you through the whole process!

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$800 Gaming PC, Better $500 PC CPU, Radeon 5870 Review: Loyd Case Is Back!

A $500 PC can have solid performance, but for $800, you can build a solid hi-po gaming PC. Loyd Case gives us the hot tip on L2 cache and CPU performance (hint: spend an extra $25 for the E6300 in a $500 PC) walks us thru the parts for a Serious $800 Gaming PC, and talks about the Radeon HD 5870... it's the fastest GPU on the market, and under $400. We've also got Loyd's top top pick for IDF 2009!

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Stop The Dorm From Using Your Printer!

Davin's printer is connected to the giant LAN that everybody in his dorm at Chico State has access to, and he's tired of everybody using all his ink. How can he stop everyone on the network from using his printer? We've got lots of ideas for locking it down on the show!

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The Top Emergency Generator Tip Ever!

Several folks wrote in to spread the word on the number one stupid thing to do with an emergency generator and ask Patrick to tell people: DO NOT OPERATE GAS GENERATORS INDOORS! Jeremy, Seth and everyone else: consider the world warned about proper generator ventilation... run 'em outside, online!

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" Which routed by configure it is 80211 actually that would be the number one question as of September 11. 200980211. And is finished. It only took -- seven years. Continue to you're watching your clock or is yes. You very carefully people are I mean they it took forever but it's also kind of -- the last and final major release of Wi-Fi and we're gonna see for quite awhile. Should take us out for at least -- number via a number of years again."

" Especially since it's kind of you know the it it's interesting his draft 2.0 8211 N products. Are basically all officially. -- 211 and they don't need to go -- recertification process what is kind of interesting is there's some features were enabled in the final version that we're not enabled in the draft version. Like hey I wanna see if for streaming channel version which means the maximum capacity will be up to six -- bits per second if you're in five gigahertz. Forty."

" Hertz Modi to me like they're both people talking matter that. And depending on your hardware you regularly and firmware update that brings you all the way up to date gives you all of those features right -- media at the end of the day cumulative for a couple of things you be looking for simultaneous dual band and that's not something that is in at 211 -- back that something that you ran past officially support itself I. Again until then rather than how it -- and you also got it looking for something with a good amount range I think you're gonna run into range issues and you know coverage of your whole home. Problems that that far you know far before you actually hit bandwidth cap when you're talking 600 Maxtor. Yeah bid to put this in the context it might gigantic Sam does this go home which is 700 square feet with."

" By -- to take you years eleven and in putting it on like four feet below the the the bottom of the of the living space in -- by. How's it makes it enormously difficult to use in the far corners of the house. In this is not we're not I -- this is in this you know success the corporate mega mansion this is that typical 2000 square partner at home. It's it's interesting that ethernet like the faster wireless gets. -- As we also live in areas where the population is -- credibly dad so there's probably I think there's 3280211. Networks when paper and other. You know that I get from the least accessible portion of my house that I had never actually figured out likely over the street. Ports open with a decent and and I think -- get a 107 networks -- so range."

" Interference all these things are not something you really afterward when you do -- but. That's had you know not everybody's gonna do wired network in the house it it it's a pain to actually get that done so. In -- eleven N is is a really useful and it's it's capable technology. And if you bought last couple years as a high likelihood. Then it what you're using is going to be as good as new artwork and yet it works don't fix it if you're curious about how fast your existing equipment is. Critically this uptick at the benchmarks at small net builder dot com. They do a phenomenal job benchmarking these you've got a routers that I've seen yet phone era phone. And it's not the original than. Often there and what their business model us. It's kinda tricky it's kind of -- subscription Skype over Wi-Fi and they want to basically blanket the world. In a phone near a Wi-Fi and it's good that means is you see what these access points when you run around you can connect about why fine you can make phone calls on it and you can browse the web. If you share your Wi-Fi with one of these devices if you don't you have to pay a little bit of money. And you can actually earn some money by getting up -- share your Internet connection -- he gets an entry that anybody's actually earn the money from the yet. It's not very big in the US for starters and I think you know you've either heard it order or you happen if you haven't yet because not they're being in the US and if you have. You've probably already know it's not serving in the past this -- actually got a little bit about the is it expensive routers about well you know it's it's not incredibly expensive and part of that is I think because they wanna turn to subsidize it because they make money. From you actually using it and getting people to connect to that Wi-Fi hotspots and transfer data. But you know it does decent stuff that that other routers now. Such as well it's got this USB port right here at some routers how about some done this when actually you can connect to USB hub to this -- connect whole authored -- the US be three G modem you can plug into that thing printer. You -- network drive just plug in any USB hard drive and that -- to share of the network's signature storage yours your print management can do 3-D if you're off the -- If you're away from the Internet that's normal and well yes and so when the other things it does is it's -- YouTube and Flickr public to see you can actually just throw a bunch of media it. Walk away from your computer and -- get uploaded to the crop so it permits has everything but it BitTorrent client and it has a -- yes actually political things in house apps so there is that there's an app store. For your routers where you can get plugin and applications that can run other clients as well. I mean clearly people's octagon developments. But the camera. So essentially it's eleven pieces of like Windows Media Server -- better. Acceptance is -- which is a good habit you know you don't want these things on the edge of your network you want them in the middle of your network and it's really dive. So the fact that this can kind of run all that stuff. From the center instead of on on the edge of your your internal. How much -- costs 99 dollars is actually pretty good date for it to eleven N routers especially ones that does all the stuff yet. I think it's a retooled for now that's illegal then but I mean they would like you to know -- bite you you know -- you can actually make money with it. I don't know that you will make any money at it but he's -- animal technically you could. There is that there is the business model employs the wow five if you choose by if not you can so this -- as a writer. It's that there."

" If enough people buy them absolutely. Hopefully I like that one can only. I with a more traditionally the two -- routers in my house actually cut so one of the new Linksys routers. Dual band -- two point 45 gigahertz my neighborhood has dozens of 150000. Networks running -- before he hurts BG and and the B ones they especially love to make fun of especially the ones that are open. As an unsecured with at an ad and on media routers won't do that in have dual band equals compatibility with older -- house. Fairly empty bandwidth for users fastest hardware has been running -- to a limit of five gigahertz. Now up until couple weeks ago my Linksys WRT 610 and simultaneous dual band wireless routers was the best deal out there -- dual -- until. He'd get here to -- and DER 3700. Doesn't that just roll off the outrage -- dual band wireless and Gigabit routers continuing to roll off the -- Came out -- builder that comes benchmark showed that here is much better throughput and Linksys. At least in weak signal locations. So if you're looking for basically you've got a bigger house that the way to go they just -- throughput across half dozen rooms. And it was really disheartening to see that. You know in their test situation. My Brothers could expect. That there's slightly really good job you know -- It's amazing because nobody else is testing network hardware anymore so if you are shopping network hardware itself were heading over there. You don't like rock the physics at five gigahertz performance going to be weaker than to -- for gigahertz right that this. The sort of the wave length of them the worse it it is to covering the distance are going through walls but it was phenomenal how poor five you -- works even it -- poorly built. Small wooden house. Maximum in Iraq from the garage the main floor into the center of the house to try to make up for the fact that he'd been. Later she rock ends. So here's here's all out separately or not you okay I get tomato -- DD WRT. And it just crank up averaged just you just go all the way outside FCC rules just. -- receiver sensitivity is actually much more valuable. Than cranking up the efforts to sister. And every edit receivers that's an image -- that's really good solution I like ethernet what was amazing what's with unfortunately there's no open firmware that allowed you to abuse. The news you know 211 and stuff yet but it was. I'm gonna move to the with the house and start from there IQ can throw one other thing happening why is all com with four ports. Does nobody use more than four ethernet port is like twenty. Because that way they can sell you more hubs that's pretty -- is now. Submit your frequently -- you know you -- keeping that's gonna happen in and keep basically what's really funny trying to find something larger than five. -- switch at the local computers or. Because apparently nine's. Hub ports and a switch is all you're gonna -- if you count the 54. For that are already in your routers -- somebody out there working in the industry has an answer worthless note is actually where both curious now why. One network ports. If the average home releases like three ports yeah well my home users or not or how much -- so going to be able to open travel mouse and it should be. From an ad tech dot com gives -- for Intel developer forum -- got."

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" Credibly. Everything net newswire for the -- This latest update of the app from you -- people -- vehicle windows and it is quite a Mac sync directly if you're Google Reader -- Google Reader guy. The new iPhone version 2.0 with free with bad or if it had gone on and on about it free. If you point -- version -- pretty easy to use and actually -- the content from your PC can read it offline you don't have a connection. Which has left the time here not -- less -- he. It also send links in the paper or what. That something has complained about the transition from new -- services and the slowness in the new version of the app but that's been pretty good so far. Course we feel like spending a couple of boxes but this is similar options check out five line gets that and it's. But if you look at personable -- which means -- they got a patent that newswire two point."

" Let that travels with a laser mouse works the wildfire through the local cafe a threat and the heartbreak of your house -- At least a laser mouse when it comes in the glass logically that dark feel laser tracking technology can work. Anywhere. You're you're excited about -- the dark dark field dark yet that it had -- that means I really I mean it's it's it's I think they're calling it. It tracks unclear surfaces so you've been did you come here. That's that's the that's a creepy actually. Because -- eight isn't that you did for both laser mice they'll go through -- go through cat for the work on your genes yeah on the basically the way that works is actually looks forward irregularities and imperfections on the surface. And that's what he uses as a map. To nowhere to. So the higher resolution the more regulators can pick up and supposedly the more accurate it's going to be. This is apparently so accurate and I can pick up irregularities that such a minute level you can track it on a piece so we actually have a piece of Plexiglas here. Completely clear. Connection and that annual trap site can actually mouse around. Presuming that -- taken -- here so house the wireless performance on this then. Forget I mean it's important amounts and accurately desktop version but I mean how ought to be announcing. Far away from your computer an. It needs to be good within like five V and you'll probably be fine I -- this I've I've I've had a a Bluetooth mouth with fresh batteries lose its connection in like three days over and over again yeah so cool things about this guy is that popped open. You can use one or two batteries I can take -- these out if it's say you know one of these pressing -- it is it. And it will still run on the up a nice yeah so and it's also good for when you're going on the on a trip in maybe you want something it is a little bit wider. You you can -- when it you know doesn't have the full weight of two full public batters -- or you can -- likes super game for images through waited for help equity battery it is actually is pretty -- with you double is and I kind of issues -- Tripoli as a rechargeable. But it's nice that you can do it on the on the single. On the thing about it the other cool thing hasn't this free scrolling wheel which is what's on the other versions of this not have the via nano and basically if you. I think it's the evidence -- like that -- just scroll intolerance out of inertia. And you click it down it doesn't -- oh cool -- so it's like really nice you wanna get your really large document quickly. Okay it comes with a dongle does this mean it is there is not with -- unfortunately it does not thought. It does is the Logitech unifying receiver -- so that is actually their new receiver technology that. Any Logitech product you buy now can all use the same dongle you don't have to have multiple models from multiple products and values in standard. But it's public so you have to have that. So -- dollars. Does it go in your bag is with you where it has traveled with me everywhere that have gotten it. I mean eight dollars lot of money for child mouse I really like it. Knowing that I can maps anywhere and never have to deal and the glass surface again in your travels over the legal pad just you can mouse worry trying to find a magazine it is a glossy -- those exist. In buying a newspaper so you can mouse yeah and then getting -- and then it's it's it's worth it just for that. I like that."

" Strong strong words people -- last week Intel -- the annual Intel developer forum we had a chance to talk with an ad tech dot com founder and CEO and should be. About what Intel is coming up -- Macs and PCs and welcome to Tekzilla thank you you've been doing this for awhile now yeah twelve years that's exciting yeah. It's still fun yes more fun now. Really what that. -- so initially respond -- thing -- thing and it was only really cool new now it's fun because the technologies -- or richer and I get to talk about really really cool things now. That's actually pretty exciting and so excited that happened this week Intel developer forum AK idea AKA. Intel's chance to employees everybody that makes PCs reliving all the forms of technology is that it until wants to do -- the lifelong battle with Microsoft and now Google. So any big nasty -- exciting an idea this year and there's also those exciting."

" Around idea writes that beginning this month we talked about Winfield which you vessels -- which is correspond to an affordable core -- seven. At IDF we kind of have that the next step the on the infield so Winfield was four cores and and now we bring him down to two course. And that comes in two flavors and -- and Arctic. The 3300. A kind of so. Airedale is is mobile dual Cornell. And Apple is referred to it as this is gonna be what you want and expect but it can be done and you can look out for those in in the beginning next year. And then Clark dale as the dust up so if you one of those guys that bought Conroe and and this really awesome vocal processes and until -- back in a six. This is the upgrade you'll what are we talking about in terms of performance versus the the -- do -- Significant performance improvement right see you get the same kind of architectures mail. But just the two -- see that much for solar power consumption. I was measuring 130 watts for a full system that -- And and under full load you're looking at seventy. And the critical thing is this is the first on package graphics so on your CP -- you've got the processor core geographical."

" Will they be any better than these sort of off prod or services they didn't do the bundle graphic from Intel and kind of miserable yes so they. Is this -- taking up less space -- motherboard it's it's this one is actually an improvement."

" Tacit I have unison preliminary data. But their whole deal is since it's on the CPU package it's gotta be at least reasonable. The -- you get with that is you get full account PC and it's streaming don't we treat steam -- station master those are just a magnificent mobile processor could be the partner's home theater perpetrate CPC. If they can get some or. That is -- you say if they can get this -- for working with software -- for. All of them so I have seen it working with with. Some of the packages out there they're they're working with all the vendors and you'll see stuff from site. To talk about Blu-ray playback exactly is HD CP an issue when you put it when you're working with a -- on the die like that -- is it actually become a problem with getting it for a I'm AC CPs always a problem it's just a pain right like its its okay. That the groups that make you jump started to get literary work on your PC you're just as they effectively make you handshake and lock down every single part of the data path right -- to the monitor it's wired media witches and non trivial technical problems -- listen -- audio and video sync it and you basically have to encrypting secret every separately so one -- CP -- the data. That's two. That has two Detrick to decode encrypted send it out to if you hide your monitor. And yeah. It's just a -- you to do that but for video and audio. So it is a complicated system. But -- you know hopefully we're couple months away from launch and and they're taking it seriously now and I'm I'm helping them pass them."

" To be beating you with a very finally can stick yet do you see this is being sort of Gateway for more home theater PC's use it is becoming integrated. Because it it's kind of amazing watching on the stuff. Did it -- everybody of -- as a signature access to some type of box. Does -- in 1080. Is this Intel kind of trying to weasel into that market or is it just something it's decided well we can put everything in a notebook what are we could do that."

" Well this is an Intel is actually pioneers in this feature right there the first including -- PC and output every few months. It's totally like a rich got home theatre thing and so I I don't know why they keep doing but I'm glad they are. Ultimately it it is cool and and I I don't know what kind of usage models that enables because it is one of those things where I can tell you the technology is good right and then some spark has -- he's something because the beauty of of being able to between the stuff is you can get. Eighties bit for bit copy of the sound -- those mastered in the movie studio out to your speakers right you're not losing any there's a compression you mean it's it's there's compression it's not glossy. And that's just cool and it with something that's that cool you gotta be able to do something and right it would help. But right now it's it's perfect for if you're you know that the high end computer market is his. To -- is that gonna be integrated in like mini IT IT exports and exports and yet sought -- with the first the chips its called H fifty cent and so it's like 55. Which is the -- you'll chipset. But what -- 57 does is it has a path from the CP's graphics -- to DVR -- That's right has attracted some subpoena. Insisting chipset but if you us overclocking features and and you have a little path to that. One of the first Intel boards that they've got based on 57 is a mini ITX solution. BA right because your your attitude chip solution after you've got you know you're you're age 57 chipset and -- you've got the CP. So their mini IT export actually has a full by sixteen -- express slot on the to do here freedom slots and -- SATA ports so it's -- you could stick 57 in there and have totally capable game machine to Vista it's it to them more performance than obviously. Adam. The media I had accomplished that who's gonna have so much more process through and I thought substitute -- It's a -- yet what dosage you see that was exciting around the idea this year Sosa and -- there were big. A lot of manufacturing announcements French thing. So until should off sandy bridge which is. Next year's architecture so it it went. -- Salem west -- which is what we're talking about now and and sandy bridge that -- It's a sandy bridge takes your graphics that was on package can but not on time and mergers so now you have a single chip. That's. Your CPU and it is -- pretty much all those could be baseline being able to 1080. Woolsey you take it out one -- two generations beyond that and then you get so crappy graphics or bring Blair. And then extracting real action where he's actually gonna do something so yeah I mean its its hilarity was also an idea we saw the world's first layer it. It was an impressive -- Because it fundamentally that that the chip is its title bugs. It's pretty -- Iran is non trivial but now. Especially be doing putting it worked or treat people doubted me if you've seen the rooms and media where they liked emulate everything transistors yet I think they've finally gotten the point where they can no longer physically do that yet. The fifth wheel so it's it's not only is in the architecture but it's I mean it's a whole new direction protect. But the thing is that until we used to seen the first of the silicon be up and running windows and and working perfectly fine so when they don't do that then everyone's. But it's it's on the big deal we still have a lot of time before layer B one comes out so for -- is it just that it's such a radically different architecture or is it's just so much more complicated than what they've done under what what's the kind of pitching. Point -- until there a lot of things it's an instruction set new architecture huge. Right so if you look at the the class of GPU's that we have you know right now you're looking at two to three billion transistors. Whereas you know you're basically under a billion. Her offer of hale class sizes it's amazing to realize just -- how insane it is that the idea of a billion transistors in a billion of anything like ridiculous it. Let's let's grains of sand on a lot of beach and actually has two to three PP -- is what are we gonna bring Intel up in step with AMD and video or is it gonna be having its Houston. In parallel with other GPUs -- I think the thing is the the initial. It's all about price break. Clearly one I don't think there's a chance that it would even remotely compete with the 45600 dollars you use and I don't think it tells me that that. -- my personal opinion I think we'll see it in the sub 200 dollar range. And I think hey if Intel does their job properly it might be performance competitive. It may use more power may have a lot of other issues but. That that I think is where you should say your expectations and I'm not overly high but. This is almost like the Microsoft model or it's not -- one point or people with three point oh with a that's gonna be the kick ass version I mean I look at it like Adam honestly right when Adam first want -- have -- netbook not been their out of there have been total disappointment. Absolutely right. Because it -- villages -- found and -- to my treatment but. So. I look at two. I would get Adam as you know the first generation was -- The second generation. Gets a little point -- is contaminant is one devices but it's the third one we you can actually fit and something's not -- I thought that would be nice and then you start getting very very exciting. What if -- distort -- Booth could by the arm architecture but I love the art architecture it. Wilson you're looking at computers did that -- of things happening right so Adam. Has the performance but our consumption is is not on arm arm. 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" Hello to 500 dollar PCs but sometimes -- a bit more it's being -- performance benefits of technology writer and it was like cases here to tell us. Welcome back the show it could be here. Idea last week what was what was your favorite thing -- you you know 32 nanometer dual core processor laptops support shrugs. It's gonna be makes for some scream fest relieve them up and with like eight hours of battery that's right off of a six cell battery that is really an excellent. You actually just finished benchmarking least not as 57 -- just north. This big monsters to this it is safe to put on Google in terms of and okay so this is obviously there's just say this is that I am assuming this is obviously the fastest greatest graphics card it is it's -- in the past a single GQ colored by 3040%. It's about a -- a lot of pilgrims to keep you cards what's going on with that display port. Display port is how disheartening to three monitors but really because display port the monitors can act as timing sources so you don't have to worry about internal I -- available. On the edge on -- and so I thought we didn't like it's like for now I'm gonna Saldana after them with thinner cables and extra time. That -- cables would be nice. Okay. What's power consumption and that's when you're gonna pull Boortz Hannity Watson and someone has to the six pin connectors not eight and six incentive. But I look between someone's really so securing your normal desktop stuff which most people do most the time -- gamers and it's just that they're not barely more. More than one -- a smaller. The usual fiber 600 dollar top of the -- pricing for animated. Really yeah. That's actually almost a -- if that's pretty often have a slightly downsized versions of 850 for under 300. That's a really good deal what kind of performance and -- between 1550 and 575850s. To be processing -- you can forgive -- like excel for this month. All of which are overkill for a sort last week about five dollar PC's right -- bounces me go back and forth to -- and that's one of the major flaws in the 33 year out there is. Applications are really -- sensitive much more so than even a few years ago. And so even adding more -- on -- dual Corey period 300 ago when megs of L two cache that's shared between the two cores so it sounds like a lot of one megabyte but it's actually. A pair of 500 -- well it's shared so they're kind constant -- consulate contending for the castings. What about what after the 6300 widgets I think to make it gives you two -- it's it's considerably better and you'll see a lot better performance gain and it's still pretty of clock. And it's only twenty bucks or at -- You would expect a pretty impressive 800 dollar -- great -- inner knowledge with the operating system. If you take -- parts of empathy and an Intel motherboard that's a million dollar to become an abort my projects. And video core two sixteenths to geforce. 262 courses humor our 160 got the 48 if we get no guarantee you get Nvidia card were actually a little bit less money and it's just let's fast yet cool and respectively given you some sort. And then forty program. And then a standard dvd drive hand if you are hard drive in there and in the case -- the cooler master case the -- informants to -- that's a really executioners respective include -- usually there's and that's gonna have actually have a high. For -- as part at least having cases with week. Power supplies and -- it's -- little parts of -- for this particular system would wanna put two graphics birth announcement. It's on record five it's not so. Is it time for Blu-ray or even videogames and becoming an of the -- times the no no we don't we don't want clear movies and the nice thing is the price of those Blu-ray rom drives are down to under eighty dollars now for a while no one of those viewing and listening to some and it's a two dollar system can do so basically further and further for for basically -- less than a third of what I've paid for my Blu-ray dvd combo drive a few years ago I get by Alex seventies yeah burns dvds don't -- So what's the next if you wanna go up sort of an ultimate gaming machine at this point how much more you gonna spend. And what kind of performance was treated us if you go to some like core -- 79 and fifty thing took over three gigahertz triple channel memory. And then one of these. Bad -- graphics cards are talking and working 1500 on system. And the performance by 4050% overall so finally be able to play full frame crisis before anti alias yeah. So this thing gets thirty prints it. Crisis at -- chemical."

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" Our first question comes from down and up there in Chico California governor writes I've recently discovered it's usually it's my college dorm. Since the network as one giant land other people -- have access to print my network printer and are using it all my ink. USB cable being easy solution but even with a -- my MacBook is -- keynote anyway to pass attacked and network printer. He's running snow leopard he wants our help they haven't Chico California."

" Will be attending be legendary party school of northern California known as she goes eight. North of Sacramento it is known for its festive festive evening and quite frankly I think. Lost perjury although it is rather expensive as you point well we're gonna give it reputation for that now yes. Well they don't need it it doesn't need our help -- Bay Area it's it's a party school but the I don't wholesaling compared to some of the stupidity it -- on my college storms. Lake lost -- it almost seems a reasonable I can accept that yet but he's dealing with -- oh did this is just that yeah this is just icing on the cake but. He's got TTs which. You don't lock up or down or get an office network okay so easily get off network spend seven to twelve bucks to buy USB hub. Plugged that into your computer that'll give your extra years B ports that plugged the printer in that give and off the network. Or give up the manual for your printer and figure out how to password protected since chances -- this information on that inside the manual for your printer. The Palestinian off that."

" Well if you got a Mac or many kinds computers you've got two kinds -- networks you've got your hard ethernet and you've got a Wi-Fi so. If he's on the land and not hard ethernet and just set up a Wi-Fi or outer in the actual room that police services network devices in the room like a network drive -- this printer. And just use that the same time put on different IP space and you'll be fine or vice Versa if -- on -- if you're on the college Wi-Fi network and put it on a private ethernet."

" Network of the pretty painless steps to be generously to roommate used that -- when you're not around you can also is the by cheaper routers. Basically do Mac address translation true often actually turn off that Nat network address translation inside your routers humility carriers are dorms access. Basically put your. Premature and your computers behind that routers that way you'll have a private address space. And you can get your stuff through making it -- anybody you choose to get your stuff put to rest of the general population will be locked out from you in your beloved printer ink. So all in by the way yes yes you -- that ED you'll probably help Leo was -- that browser that's the services for the east. I love the Internet to -- in college campus."

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" Which routed by configure it is 80211 actually that would be the number one question as of September 11. 200980211. And is finished. It only took -- seven years. Continue to you're watching your clock or is yes. You very carefully people are I mean they it took forever but it's also kind of -- the last and final major release of Wi-Fi and we're gonna see for quite awhile. Should take us out for at least -- number via a number of years again."

" Especially since it's kind of you know the it it's interesting his draft 2.0 8211 N products. Are basically all officially. -- 211 and they don't need to go -- recertification process what is kind of interesting is there's some features were enabled in the final version that we're not enabled in the draft version. Like hey I wanna see if for streaming channel version which means the maximum capacity will be up to six -- bits per second if you're in five gigahertz. Forty."

" Hertz Modi to me like they're both people talking matter that. And depending on your hardware you regularly and firmware update that brings you all the way up to date gives you all of those features right -- media at the end of the day cumulative for a couple of things you be looking for simultaneous dual band and that's not something that is in at 211 -- back that something that you ran past officially support itself I. Again until then rather than how it -- and you also got it looking for something with a good amount range I think you're gonna run into range issues and you know coverage of your whole home. Problems that that far you know far before you actually hit bandwidth cap when you're talking 600 Maxtor. Yeah bid to put this in the context it might gigantic Sam does this go home which is 700 square feet with."

" By -- to take you years eleven and in putting it on like four feet below the the the bottom of the of the living space in -- by. How's it makes it enormously difficult to use in the far corners of the house. In this is not we're not I -- this is in this you know success the corporate mega mansion this is that typical 2000 square partner at home. It's it's interesting that ethernet like the faster wireless gets. -- As we also live in areas where the population is -- credibly dad so there's probably I think there's 3280211. Networks when paper and other. You know that I get from the least accessible portion of my house that I had never actually figured out likely over the street. Ports open with a decent and and I think -- get a 107 networks -- so range."

" Interference all these things are not something you really afterward when you do -- but. That's had you know not everybody's gonna do wired network in the house it it it's a pain to actually get that done so. In -- eleven N is is a really useful and it's it's capable technology. And if you bought last couple years as a high likelihood. Then it what you're using is going to be as good as new artwork and yet it works don't fix it if you're curious about how fast your existing equipment is. Critically this uptick at the benchmarks at small net builder dot com. They do a phenomenal job benchmarking these you've got a routers that I've seen yet phone era phone. And it's not the original than. Often there and what their business model us. It's kinda tricky it's kind of -- subscription Skype over Wi-Fi and they want to basically blanket the world. In a phone near a Wi-Fi and it's good that means is you see what these access points when you run around you can connect about why fine you can make phone calls on it and you can browse the web. If you share your Wi-Fi with one of these devices if you don't you have to pay a little bit of money. And you can actually earn some money by getting up -- share your Internet connection -- he gets an entry that anybody's actually earn the money from the yet. It's not very big in the US for starters and I think you know you've either heard it order or you happen if you haven't yet because not they're being in the US and if you have. You've probably already know it's not serving in the past this -- actually got a little bit about the is it expensive routers about well you know it's it's not incredibly expensive and part of that is I think because they wanna turn to subsidize it because they make money. From you actually using it and getting people to connect to that Wi-Fi hotspots and transfer data. But you know it does decent stuff that that other routers now. Such as well it's got this USB port right here at some routers how about some done this when actually you can connect to USB hub to this -- connect whole authored -- the US be three G modem you can plug into that thing printer. You -- network drive just plug in any USB hard drive and that -- to share of the network's signature storage yours your print management can do 3-D if you're off the -- If you're away from the Internet that's normal and well yes and so when the other things it does is it's -- YouTube and Flickr public to see you can actually just throw a bunch of media it. Walk away from your computer and -- get uploaded to the crop so it permits has everything but it BitTorrent client and it has a -- yes actually political things in house apps so there is that there's an app store. For your routers where you can get plugin and applications that can run other clients as well. I mean clearly people's octagon developments. But the camera. So essentially it's eleven pieces of like Windows Media Server -- better. Acceptance is -- which is a good habit you know you don't want these things on the edge of your network you want them in the middle of your network and it's really dive. So the fact that this can kind of run all that stuff. From the center instead of on on the edge of your your internal. How much -- costs 99 dollars is actually pretty good date for it to eleven N routers especially ones that does all the stuff yet. I think it's a retooled for now that's illegal then but I mean they would like you to know -- bite you you know -- you can actually make money with it. I don't know that you will make any money at it but he's -- animal technically you could. There is that there is the business model employs the wow five if you choose by if not you can so this -- as a writer. It's that there."

" If enough people buy them absolutely. Hopefully I like that one can only. I with a more traditionally the two -- routers in my house actually cut so one of the new Linksys routers. Dual band -- two point 45 gigahertz my neighborhood has dozens of 150000. Networks running -- before he hurts BG and and the B ones they especially love to make fun of especially the ones that are open. As an unsecured with at an ad and on media routers won't do that in have dual band equals compatibility with older -- house. Fairly empty bandwidth for users fastest hardware has been running -- to a limit of five gigahertz. Now up until couple weeks ago my Linksys WRT 610 and simultaneous dual band wireless routers was the best deal out there -- dual -- until. He'd get here to -- and DER 3700. Doesn't that just roll off the outrage -- dual band wireless and Gigabit routers continuing to roll off the -- Came out -- builder that comes benchmark showed that here is much better throughput and Linksys. At least in weak signal locations. So if you're looking for basically you've got a bigger house that the way to go they just -- throughput across half dozen rooms. And it was really disheartening to see that. You know in their test situation. My Brothers could expect. That there's slightly really good job you know -- It's amazing because nobody else is testing network hardware anymore so if you are shopping network hardware itself were heading over there. You don't like rock the physics at five gigahertz performance going to be weaker than to -- for gigahertz right that this. The sort of the wave length of them the worse it it is to covering the distance are going through walls but it was phenomenal how poor five you -- works even it -- poorly built. Small wooden house. Maximum in Iraq from the garage the main floor into the center of the house to try to make up for the fact that he'd been. Later she rock ends. So here's here's all out separately or not you okay I get tomato -- DD WRT. And it just crank up averaged just you just go all the way outside FCC rules just. -- receiver sensitivity is actually much more valuable. Than cranking up the efforts to sister. And every edit receivers that's an image -- that's really good solution I like ethernet what was amazing what's with unfortunately there's no open firmware that allowed you to abuse. The news you know 211 and stuff yet but it was. I'm gonna move to the with the house and start from there IQ can throw one other thing happening why is all com with four ports. Does nobody use more than four ethernet port is like twenty. Because that way they can sell you more hubs that's pretty -- is now. Submit your frequently -- you know you -- keeping that's gonna happen in and keep basically what's really funny trying to find something larger than five. -- switch at the local computers or. Because apparently nine's. Hub ports and a switch is all you're gonna -- if you count the 54. For that are already in your routers -- somebody out there working in the industry has an answer worthless note is actually where both curious now why. One network ports. If the average home releases like three ports yeah well my home users or not or how much -- so going to be able to open travel mouse and it should be. From an ad tech dot com gives -- for Intel developer forum -- got."

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" Let that travels with a laser mouse works the wildfire through the local cafe a threat and the heartbreak of your house -- At least a laser mouse when it comes in the glass logically that dark feel laser tracking technology can work. Anywhere. You're you're excited about -- the dark dark field dark yet that it had -- that means I really I mean it's it's it's I think they're calling it. It tracks unclear surfaces so you've been did you come here. That's that's the that's a creepy actually. Because -- eight isn't that you did for both laser mice they'll go through -- go through cat for the work on your genes yeah on the basically the way that works is actually looks forward irregularities and imperfections on the surface. And that's what he uses as a map. To nowhere to. So the higher resolution the more regulators can pick up and supposedly the more accurate it's going to be. This is apparently so accurate and I can pick up irregularities that such a minute level you can track it on a piece so we actually have a piece of Plexiglas here. Completely clear. Connection and that annual trap site can actually mouse around. Presuming that -- taken -- here so house the wireless performance on this then. Forget I mean it's important amounts and accurately desktop version but I mean how ought to be announcing. Far away from your computer an. It needs to be good within like five V and you'll probably be fine I -- this I've I've I've had a a Bluetooth mouth with fresh batteries lose its connection in like three days over and over again yeah so cool things about this guy is that popped open. You can use one or two batteries I can take -- these out if it's say you know one of these pressing -- it is it. And it will still run on the up a nice yeah so and it's also good for when you're going on the on a trip in maybe you want something it is a little bit wider. You you can -- when it you know doesn't have the full weight of two full public batters -- or you can -- likes super game for images through waited for help equity battery it is actually is pretty -- with you double is and I kind of issues -- Tripoli as a rechargeable. But it's nice that you can do it on the on the single. On the thing about it the other cool thing hasn't this free scrolling wheel which is what's on the other versions of this not have the via nano and basically if you. I think it's the evidence -- like that -- just scroll intolerance out of inertia. And you click it down it doesn't -- oh cool -- so it's like really nice you wanna get your really large document quickly. Okay it comes with a dongle does this mean it is there is not with -- unfortunately it does not thought. It does is the Logitech unifying receiver -- so that is actually their new receiver technology that. Any Logitech product you buy now can all use the same dongle you don't have to have multiple models from multiple products and values in standard. But it's public so you have to have that. So -- dollars. Does it go in your bag is with you where it has traveled with me everywhere that have gotten it. I mean eight dollars lot of money for child mouse I really like it. Knowing that I can maps anywhere and never have to deal and the glass surface again in your travels over the legal pad just you can mouse worry trying to find a magazine it is a glossy -- those exist. In buying a newspaper so you can mouse yeah and then getting -- and then it's it's it's worth it just for that. I like that."

" Strong strong words people -- last week Intel -- the annual Intel developer forum we had a chance to talk with an ad tech dot com founder and CEO and should be. About what Intel is coming up -- Macs and PCs and welcome to Tekzilla thank you you've been doing this for awhile now yeah twelve years that's exciting yeah. It's still fun yes more fun now. Really what that. -- so initially respond -- thing -- thing and it was only really cool new now it's fun because the technologies -- or richer and I get to talk about really really cool things now. That's actually pretty exciting and so excited that happened this week Intel developer forum AK idea AKA. Intel's chance to employees everybody that makes PCs reliving all the forms of technology is that it until wants to do -- the lifelong battle with Microsoft and now Google. So any big nasty -- exciting an idea this year and there's also those exciting."

" Around idea writes that beginning this month we talked about Winfield which you vessels -- which is correspond to an affordable core -- seven. At IDF we kind of have that the next step the on the infield so Winfield was four cores and and now we bring him down to two course. And that comes in two flavors and -- and Arctic. The 3300. A kind of so. Airedale is is mobile dual Cornell. And Apple is referred to it as this is gonna be what you want and expect but it can be done and you can look out for those in in the beginning next year. And then Clark dale as the dust up so if you one of those guys that bought Conroe and and this really awesome vocal processes and until -- back in a six. This is the upgrade you'll what are we talking about in terms of performance versus the the -- do -- Significant performance improvement right see you get the same kind of architectures mail. But just the two -- see that much for solar power consumption. I was measuring 130 watts for a full system that -- And and under full load you're looking at seventy. And the critical thing is this is the first on package graphics so on your CP -- you've got the processor core geographical."

" Will they be any better than these sort of off prod or services they didn't do the bundle graphic from Intel and kind of miserable yes so they. Is this -- taking up less space -- motherboard it's it's this one is actually an improvement."

" Tacit I have unison preliminary data. But their whole deal is since it's on the CPU package it's gotta be at least reasonable. The -- you get with that is you get full account PC and it's streaming don't we treat steam -- station master those are just a magnificent mobile processor could be the partner's home theater perpetrate CPC. If they can get some or. That is -- you say if they can get this -- for working with software -- for. All of them so I have seen it working with with. Some of the packages out there they're they're working with all the vendors and you'll see stuff from site. To talk about Blu-ray playback exactly is HD CP an issue when you put it when you're working with a -- on the die like that -- is it actually become a problem with getting it for a I'm AC CPs always a problem it's just a pain right like its its okay. That the groups that make you jump started to get literary work on your PC you're just as they effectively make you handshake and lock down every single part of the data path right -- to the monitor it's wired media witches and non trivial technical problems -- listen -- audio and video sync it and you basically have to encrypting secret every separately so one -- CP -- the data. That's two. That has two Detrick to decode encrypted send it out to if you hide your monitor. And yeah. It's just a -- you to do that but for video and audio. So it is a complicated system. But -- you know hopefully we're couple months away from launch and and they're taking it seriously now and I'm I'm helping them pass them."

" To be beating you with a very finally can stick yet do you see this is being sort of Gateway for more home theater PC's use it is becoming integrated. Because it it's kind of amazing watching on the stuff. Did it -- everybody of -- as a signature access to some type of box. Does -- in 1080. Is this Intel kind of trying to weasel into that market or is it just something it's decided well we can put everything in a notebook what are we could do that."

" Well this is an Intel is actually pioneers in this feature right there the first including -- PC and output every few months. It's totally like a rich got home theatre thing and so I I don't know why they keep doing but I'm glad they are. Ultimately it it is cool and and I I don't know what kind of usage models that enables because it is one of those things where I can tell you the technology is good right and then some spark has -- he's something because the beauty of of being able to between the stuff is you can get. Eighties bit for bit copy of the sound -- those mastered in the movie studio out to your speakers right you're not losing any there's a compression you mean it's it's there's compression it's not glossy. And that's just cool and it with something that's that cool you gotta be able to do something and right it would help. But right now it's it's perfect for if you're you know that the high end computer market is his. To -- is that gonna be integrated in like mini IT IT exports and exports and yet sought -- with the first the chips its called H fifty cent and so it's like 55. Which is the -- you'll chipset. But what -- 57 does is it has a path from the CP's graphics -- to DVR -- That's right has attracted some subpoena. Insisting chipset but if you us overclocking features and and you have a little path to that. One of the first Intel boards that they've got based on 57 is a mini ITX solution. BA right because your your attitude chip solution after you've got you know you're you're age 57 chipset and -- you've got the CP. So their mini IT export actually has a full by sixteen -- express slot on the to do here freedom slots and -- SATA ports so it's -- you could stick 57 in there and have totally capable game machine to Vista it's it to them more performance than obviously. Adam. The media I had accomplished that who's gonna have so much more process through and I thought substitute -- It's a -- yet what dosage you see that was exciting around the idea this year Sosa and -- there were big. A lot of manufacturing announcements French thing. So until should off sandy bridge which is. Next year's architecture so it it went. -- Salem west -- which is what we're talking about now and and sandy bridge that -- It's a sandy bridge takes your graphics that was on package can but not on time and mergers so now you have a single chip. That's. Your CPU and it is -- pretty much all those could be baseline being able to 1080. Woolsey you take it out one -- two generations beyond that and then you get so crappy graphics or bring Blair. And then extracting real action where he's actually gonna do something so yeah I mean its its hilarity was also an idea we saw the world's first layer it. It was an impressive -- Because it fundamentally that that the chip is its title bugs. It's pretty -- Iran is non trivial but now. Especially be doing putting it worked or treat people doubted me if you've seen the rooms and media where they liked emulate everything transistors yet I think they've finally gotten the point where they can no longer physically do that yet. The fifth wheel so it's it's not only is in the architecture but it's I mean it's a whole new direction protect. But the thing is that until we used to seen the first of the silicon be up and running windows and and working perfectly fine so when they don't do that then everyone's. But it's it's on the big deal we still have a lot of time before layer B one comes out so for -- is it just that it's such a radically different architecture or is it's just so much more complicated than what they've done under what what's the kind of pitching. Point -- until there a lot of things it's an instruction set new architecture huge. Right so if you look at the the class of GPU's that we have you know right now you're looking at two to three billion transistors. Whereas you know you're basically under a billion. Her offer of hale class sizes it's amazing to realize just -- how insane it is that the idea of a billion transistors in a billion of anything like ridiculous it. Let's let's grains of sand on a lot of beach and actually has two to three PP -- is what are we gonna bring Intel up in step with AMD and video or is it gonna be having its Houston. In parallel with other GPUs -- I think the thing is the the initial. It's all about price break. Clearly one I don't think there's a chance that it would even remotely compete with the 45600 dollars you use and I don't think it tells me that that. -- my personal opinion I think we'll see it in the sub 200 dollar range. And I think hey if Intel does their job properly it might be performance competitive. It may use more power may have a lot of other issues but. That that I think is where you should say your expectations and I'm not overly high but. This is almost like the Microsoft model or it's not -- one point or people with three point oh with a that's gonna be the kick ass version I mean I look at it like Adam honestly right when Adam first want -- have -- netbook not been their out of there have been total disappointment. Absolutely right. Because it -- villages -- found and -- to my treatment but. So. I look at two. I would get Adam as you know the first generation was -- The second generation. Gets a little point -- is contaminant is one devices but it's the third one we you can actually fit and something's not -- I thought that would be nice and then you start getting very very exciting. What if -- distort -- Booth could by the arm architecture but I love the art architecture it. Wilson you're looking at computers did that -- of things happening right so Adam. Has the performance but our consumption is is not on arm arm. So you see Adam dropping in power consumption at the same time you see arm increasing their performance. So the real question is. When it across right and who's on top after the cross -- And and it's you know a -- be like like Adam -- it's -- those situations rentals coming in as the underdog. Which for a used as they walk into any environment CPUs even solid state storage they want him in there like. --"

" The king especially solid state storage. We're gonna talk a little bit more about that and a couple weeks you've pretty much have written the definitive particles -- on SSDs the issues the excitement the joy and pain and trauma actually also that can be good -- port so. We talk a little bit more about it the Steve couple weeks yet awesome and and thank you so much free time -- to government if you have not been the website and ad tech dot com -- PC hardware you should definitely. Go there and do some research some reading and find that really what's going on in terms of performance and technology we can you PC parts. Before you upgrade your machine trust me to be worth your time. --"

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" Hello to 500 dollar PCs but sometimes -- a bit more it's being -- performance benefits of technology writer and it was like cases here to tell us. Welcome back the show it could be here. Idea last week what was what was your favorite thing -- you you know 32 nanometer dual core processor laptops support shrugs. It's gonna be makes for some scream fest relieve them up and with like eight hours of battery that's right off of a six cell battery that is really an excellent. You actually just finished benchmarking least not as 57 -- just north. This big monsters to this it is safe to put on Google in terms of and okay so this is obviously there's just say this is that I am assuming this is obviously the fastest greatest graphics card it is it's -- in the past a single GQ colored by 3040%. It's about a -- a lot of pilgrims to keep you cards what's going on with that display port. Display port is how disheartening to three monitors but really because display port the monitors can act as timing sources so you don't have to worry about internal I -- available. On the edge on -- and so I thought we didn't like it's like for now I'm gonna Saldana after them with thinner cables and extra time. That -- cables would be nice. Okay. What's power consumption and that's when you're gonna pull Boortz Hannity Watson and someone has to the six pin connectors not eight and six incentive. But I look between someone's really so securing your normal desktop stuff which most people do most the time -- gamers and it's just that they're not barely more. More than one -- a smaller. The usual fiber 600 dollar top of the -- pricing for animated. Really yeah. That's actually almost a -- if that's pretty often have a slightly downsized versions of 850 for under 300. That's a really good deal what kind of performance and -- between 1550 and 575850s. To be processing -- you can forgive -- like excel for this month. All of which are overkill for a sort last week about five dollar PC's right -- bounces me go back and forth to -- and that's one of the major flaws in the 33 year out there is. Applications are really -- sensitive much more so than even a few years ago. And so even adding more -- on -- dual Corey period 300 ago when megs of L two cache that's shared between the two cores so it sounds like a lot of one megabyte but it's actually. A pair of 500 -- well it's shared so they're kind constant -- consulate contending for the castings. What about what after the 6300 widgets I think to make it gives you two -- it's it's considerably better and you'll see a lot better performance gain and it's still pretty of clock. And it's only twenty bucks or at -- You would expect a pretty impressive 800 dollar -- great -- inner knowledge with the operating system. If you take -- parts of empathy and an Intel motherboard that's a million dollar to become an abort my projects. And video core two sixteenths to geforce. 262 courses humor our 160 got the 48 if we get no guarantee you get Nvidia card were actually a little bit less money and it's just let's fast yet cool and respectively given you some sort. And then forty program. And then a standard dvd drive hand if you are hard drive in there and in the case -- the cooler master case the -- informants to -- that's a really executioners respective include -- usually there's and that's gonna have actually have a high. For -- as part at least having cases with week. Power supplies and -- it's -- little parts of -- for this particular system would wanna put two graphics birth announcement. It's on record five it's not so. Is it time for Blu-ray or even videogames and becoming an of the -- times the no no we don't we don't want clear movies and the nice thing is the price of those Blu-ray rom drives are down to under eighty dollars now for a while no one of those viewing and listening to some and it's a two dollar system can do so basically further and further for for basically -- less than a third of what I've paid for my Blu-ray dvd combo drive a few years ago I get by Alex seventies yeah burns dvds don't -- So what's the next if you wanna go up sort of an ultimate gaming machine at this point how much more you gonna spend. And what kind of performance was treated us if you go to some like core -- 79 and fifty thing took over three gigahertz triple channel memory. And then one of these. Bad -- graphics cards are talking and working 1500 on system. And the performance by 4050% overall so finally be able to play full frame crisis before anti alias yeah. So this thing gets thirty prints it. Crisis at -- chemical."

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" Our first question comes from down and up there in Chico California governor writes I've recently discovered it's usually it's my college dorm. Since the network as one giant land other people -- have access to print my network printer and are using it all my ink. USB cable being easy solution but even with a -- my MacBook is -- keynote anyway to pass attacked and network printer. He's running snow leopard he wants our help they haven't Chico California."

" Will be attending be legendary party school of northern California known as she goes eight. North of Sacramento it is known for its festive festive evening and quite frankly I think. Lost perjury although it is rather expensive as you point well we're gonna give it reputation for that now yes. Well they don't need it it doesn't need our help -- Bay Area it's it's a party school but the I don't wholesaling compared to some of the stupidity it -- on my college storms. Lake lost -- it almost seems a reasonable I can accept that yet but he's dealing with -- oh did this is just that yeah this is just icing on the cake but. He's got TTs which. You don't lock up or down or get an office network okay so easily get off network spend seven to twelve bucks to buy USB hub. Plugged that into your computer that'll give your extra years B ports that plugged the printer in that give and off the network. Or give up the manual for your printer and figure out how to password protected since chances -- this information on that inside the manual for your printer. The Palestinian off that."

" Well if you got a Mac or many kinds computers you've got two kinds -- networks you've got your hard ethernet and you've got a Wi-Fi so. If he's on the land and not hard ethernet and just set up a Wi-Fi or outer in the actual room that police services network devices in the room like a network drive -- this printer. And just use that the same time put on different IP space and you'll be fine or vice Versa if -- on -- if you're on the college Wi-Fi network and put it on a private ethernet."

" Network of the pretty painless steps to be generously to roommate used that -- when you're not around you can also is the by cheaper routers. Basically do Mac address translation true often actually turn off that Nat network address translation inside your routers humility carriers are dorms access. Basically put your. Premature and your computers behind that routers that way you'll have a private address space. And you can get your stuff through making it -- anybody you choose to get your stuff put to rest of the general population will be locked out from you in your beloved printer ink. So all in by the way yes yes you -- that ED you'll probably help Leo was -- that browser that's the services for the east. I love the Internet to -- in college campus."

" A couple of emails to respond the auxiliary power generators segment from last week. First country Jerry who wrote I like this segment generator program there's a crucial he's been left out. Please please please do not use these units inside -- common sense but effort to any news reports about things happening with people use these indoors thanks -- So falls -- you should mention Bentley requirements quiet or not -- generators outside cent. That is a very good piece of advice sometimes we get the obvious isn't always as obvious as it should be -- one more time do not use a powered generator indoors and ignores them that little ones does that mean the you know like put it out a window where the power cable in through the door about -- solar power that's a whole load that we'll talk about that last. And for those and put on top house. --"

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Started discussion: October 1, 2009 @ 2:33pm GMT

Episode 108 - Router Picks, $800 Gaming PC, Intel Developer Forum, Mouse On Glass, HTC Hero, Top Emergency Generator Tip Ever

Perfect Travel Mouse: Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX, HTC Hero, Lock Down The Party Printer In Your Dorm. Anand Shimpi on IDF, Loyd Case's $800 Gaming PC (And a much better $500 PC CPU) 802.11n: Fon Fonera 2.0, Netgear WNDR3700 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Gigabit Router, Linksys WRT610N Simultaneous Dual-N Band Wireless Router, Top Emergency Generator Tip Ever, GDGT's Ryan Block Co-Hosts!

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mikec
about 1 month ago
Patrick, how many times did you say "really"?
eminemdrdre00
about 1 month ago
In reply to mikec:
Patrick, how many times did you say "really"?


Not as many times as he says "I like that thought". I'm only 5 minutes in and he's already said "I like that thought" 4 times!
Kojak71
about 1 month ago
I've noticed that when Veronica is not around the number of times he says "I like that thought" goes through the roof.
computoman
about 1 month ago
inre routers:

Existing 302.11 routers do not need to conform to the new rules so caveat emptor when buying one. I would wait, if you are looking for one wait till you are sure it conforms. There is already a new new faster standard
for wifi being worked on.

Comcast and maybe others in their new pile of crap tos specifically does not allow you to use you connection to make money without their blessing. READ CAREFULLY!

There is a lot of commercial software disguising itself as open source, caveat emptor.
eminemdrdre00
about 1 month ago
In reply to kojak71:
I've noticed that when Veronica is not around the "I like that thought" count goes through the roof.


They must have a thing going where he has to give her $5 every time he says it! I'll give the final "I like that thought" count when I'm done with the episode.
Kojak71
about 1 month ago
I'm amazed that in this episode he hasn't said "weeping quietly in the corner".
eminemdrdre00
about 1 month ago
In reply to kojak71:
I'm amazed that in this episode he hasn't said "weeping quietly in the corner".


*Insert Patrick Norton quote here*

...see what I did there? ;)
Smeerkaas
about 1 month ago
Other than those often repeated phrases I really like the direction the show is taking. Anand and Loyd. Some more in-depth info. Now I'm going to say it: "I like that thought!" It makes the show way better imo.
PeanyTech
about 1 month ago
I signed up for dimdim using the Hak5 promo code, can I still get an invite to the TekZilla dimdim meeting on October 12th.
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