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Video Card Roundup, HDTV Picks, Headphones for Children!

Saturday, December 13th, 2008 – running time 47:48
Best HDTV Deals, GPU Picks from $50 to $500, foobar2000, Mini ITX motherboards. 7.1 speaker systems for gaming?

Graphics cards? HDTVs and Blu-ray players? Jason Cross and Robert Heron are back, staring down a -flood- of questions you've sent in!

Want a Tekzilla t-shirt? Head on over to the new Revision3 Store!

Do you read the manual... RTFM ... or do you rip open the box and wing it?

Veronica and Roger have been spending quality time playing Left For Dead...

The winner of the 80GB Zune is Brad C from South Carolina! Or "Murphy One D" as he's known in the forums... congratulations!!!

We found a netbook with a big keyboard! Check out HP's Mini 1000... the specs are typical for an Atom powered Netbook till you get to that "92 percent" keyboard that you can touch type on! (The build quality is solid, too.)

This week's Freebie Download Pick is foobar2000, a most excellent free audio player for all those folks that keep emailing in for an alternative to iTunes and the Windows Media Player.

Support Tekzilla By Supporting Our Sponsors: NVIDIA. Speak Visual with NVIDIA in your computer. Learn more at SpeakVisual.com

Our fave graphics card expert, ExtremeTech.com's Jason Cross is back with answers to a ton of questions you sent in via Twitter.

He's got the best graphics cards and GPUs for under $100, under $200, where money is no object, whether SLI and Crossfire still matter, along with good advice on when you should buy Intel's Core i7.

This week's "Website We Just Can't Get Enough Of" is Veronica's favorite source of Japanese toys and gadgets: Gizmine!

With the holiday buying season in full swing tons of questions about HDTV's and HD video have been floating around, so we figured it was a good time to get PCMag.com's HD expert, Robert Heron, back on the show and to set us straight on the best HDTV and Blu-ray deals!

Sharrie from New York totally looks like Liz Phair ...Exile In Guyville frickin' rocks... and she's on the hunt for headphones for kids!

Veronica got her audio engineer on, and is delighted that iHearSafe earbuds and headphones keep the volume at a safe level no matter how high the kids try to crank them up.

Both the Kidz Gear Headphones For Kids, $20 iFrogz Tadpole headphones promise a comfortable fit with cushy pads.

Veronica also pinged her friend Jasmine France from Cnet's MP3 Insider. She added Sony's MDR-222KD Children's Headphones (Cheap! Built in volume limiting, but not the best audio quality.), Ultimate Ears Loud Enough Earphones (Volume limiting built in, much better audio quality, cost around $35), and, for the active kids out there, AirDrives Interactive Earphones for Kids (They clip over little ears, but don't have much bass.)

Thanks Jasmine!

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Heath can't find a 7.1 speaker system from Bose or Creative Labs to go with his 7.1 PC sound card. No surprise, that... there are tons of 7.1 speaker systems for home theaters, but it never seemed to take off on the PC Gaming front. (5.1 speaker systems for gaming are quite common, tho.)

Want to learn more about how to set up 5.1 and 7.1 surround sound speakers? Check out Dolby's Speaker Setup Guide.

Support Tekzilla By Supporting Our Sponsors: Hankering for some fun on the go? Check out the PSP-3000 and its ultra crisp super-wide display, now available in most excellent The Ratchet and Clank Entertainment Pack!

Have you seen these Mini-ITX motherboards? Yup, Chad, we think a 170mm x 170mm mobo running a Core 2 Duo processors is a super cool inspiration for a project, too. Check out mini-itx.com for the latest news and lots ofideas on what peopel are doing with these tiny mobos (not nearly as tiny as nano-ITX, mind you!) from car PCs, to custom embedded computers... you'll get the idea!

Got a tech question? A product you want reviewed? Email tekzilla@revision3.com!

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" War. This episode of Tekzilla sponsored by the PSP 3000. Nvidia beat visual within media in your computer and learn more at -- visual dot com. And the united states air force. Coming up when they show off my good is Jason cross -- Robert Herron are back stealing themselves for the flood of questions you -- and then there's gotta be some serious toys. This holiday season we -- yet but with a keyboard that doesn't suck and mini atx motherboard acting cute. There's a lot more coming up to down shift to third and stick the battle to the metal because Tekzilla starts now. Well in the Tekzilla better Norton about a month so do you read the manual. -- RT FM or do you wing it when you get you product."

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" Well it's either the perfect fingerprint catcher ever fingerprint -- I'm you know I'm also really over shiny technology. Really it's shiny set it up so it doesn't work and your ignorance and stand between. This is actually need to 1000 presumably want with -- sixty my hard drive but frankly you don't care about that and you don't care about that show them what they care about to touch the keyboard. And they get book with -- 92%. Keyboard 92% of both -- language for keyboard keyboard."

" Pretty much exactly the kind of thing that I've been looking for. It's really wanted to in that book and wanted -- small form factor. Laptop just like this."

" It's the biggest keyboard we found in that book yet atom powered speedboats if you hurts. Processors you have to use the left and right mouse button -- the -- I am going to be left and right of the -- that would -- litigating used Giuliani you can use the touch -- so as a crack -- it's an -- if you're into the -- keeping its -- an unusual position for the keys. I'll watch the battery to to -- lithium ion battery no six cell batteries until January -- sixty what's within -- point nine inch screen and eight gigabytes of storage which is not enough storage. The big drive that sixty gigabyte drive at their whopping sixty dollars to the price the fifty bucks the ten point two inch screen true that there how much. About 415 configuration -- configurations about 350. Totally and yes they also offer it's cool there are also offering the option of a internal -- a motive for 200 bucks. You can -- Bluetooth on the Wi-Fi adapter which is really cool. These are certain get really good -- are really missing from this especially if you're sales type person isn't video outputs HP reserves that -- 2133 models different business folks a lot of people get these these tops customized they have they another custom -- you -- believe you can customize yourself. The outlook and as having different options I just like I just I just I'm tired of it my iPhone -- the same problem actually most products just. -- technology industry give up on portable objects that are shiny and gather fingerprints it's pissing me off."

" I wish I didn't have time to time but yeah especially with like to do. The big screens on my MacBook pros in the Mac books is the ultimate -- factor is kind of ridiculous that's a screen this is on the actual product and it's that bad I mean I don't care about a few fingerprints on -- kill you and give him."

" Specifically he's teasing. The executive isn't their only you know like that before the atom processor or so before -- processor is -- it for these. This as a lot of potential -- just the movement or battery life Thomas."

" I initially did admit elements form Fred from in the forums about different net books that I could look at. And -- and I love those guys. But there's still more to come on especially for an upgrade your PC we have extreme tech dot com's Jason cross in house. To break down -- parts of processors you need to be looking at your next upgrade the first you want to thank one of the sponsors that makes today's -- not possible."

" It's time that I think one of the sponsors of today's episode Tekzilla that PSP. 3000. Your anchor for the bombing go to got a BSP 3000 sporting. -- this super wide display this portable freebie entertainment system is now available in the ratchet and -- entertainment pack that includes the ratchet and clank size matters games all the national treasure to win the movie a playstation network game download -- MacBook pro life upon the game. And a one gigabyte memory stick you of course with the PSP 3000 off back to the great games blockbuster movies your music video library and so much more. So whether you're on a plane train or automobile the TSE 3000 lets you bring the fun and anything that would -- situation better and more interesting. What this week's freebie download pick a free program we find useful fun or incredibly interesting this week's -- through march 2000. We have -- top ten list of questions audio player that isn't iTunes and Windows Media Player would make it every single week. There's only so many times you can tell people -- really when there is much better now. And it was barking about what's offered his support for just about the format has been littered across the Internet and play with gamma. Kilometers frequently and super easy to customize you know. It's also a gripping tools before we play games tax break tagging capabilities entrant who all supported audio formats you can convert component. And it's got a hold the third forty point. The only downside if only for the XP and Vista users out there but if you're on windows and even -- feature rich audio player. That's for -- you can check out through march 2000 today."

" holiday season and economic crisis is being damaged Tekzilla crew is look at her shopping advice especially around graphics cards and the new I seven processors. I've kind of questions of insanity which cards provide the biggest bank for the -- is the new I seven all that what's the most appropriate car for -- home theatre PC. And there are many many more so many in fact we is that -- get -- GPU expert extreme tech dot com's senior technology analyst. Jason cross back in the studio an outline of buying guide and answer a few of your questions Jason welcome back to the show hello my friend. You are heard you were up your eyeballs to your -- your hair follicles would graphics card yes and actually the -- about 2000 ultra right here. No they've all all the everything's getting cheaper so. Maybe if thousand dollars now. Public. What they were excited right now the new CPUs from Intel or the last paragraph -- liberals really get on the news you can use our great stuff most important lead the new mother boards many of them support both -- and crossfire single and you get locked into. Who do GPUs for -- duties for me. -- the -- boards have amazing -- but they -- doesn't seem to -- single when -- under 200 but now it's all super expensive stuff for council premium -- and -- be another chipset coming maybe second quarter or summer -- next year that will be the affordable ones but until then it's all gonna be. Expensive he's been thieves who is Nvidia still sitting on the you know the cost and power supplies no. No no no limit to limit the amount of power or money it will suck down in terms of of pure GPU performance not for money -- They're still drawn a lot of power. But with all the prices come down -- has been given -- such stiff competition that they've lowered their prices dramatically there's a real battle going on which is good it's great for consumers when they start having a real price war which is what's happening now. Cost is no object which party line for three game. Probably believe this is this is API said tool GPU radio 48 from the X two it's probably the fastest single card you can yet. Sometimes the geforce GTX 280 as the pastor Warren and it's a little less expensive linens. And of course you want to load two or three of those -- with you know that supports it and that would be your money's no object thing about him. Well at this point or or two chips on a single board performing as well we're better than as a liar -- in this case of the crossfire program. And it is not actually been doing right now we don't have a new product that is changing views on board. Probably because -- latest you can use something like one point four billion. Transistors and it's you know really big and really power hungry so they can't do yet. So if you're feeling really doing a dual GPU single card and it is it's pretty much the same things crossfire if you had to agree on -- forties and you. One gigabyte cards in -- purchasing things. They would take excellence if for a flurry of questions from twitter that your -- I love the twitter questions. It is this back on here. What the best value priced mid range PCI express graphics are available now from Robert -- 88 and smarty hall. Smartest takes that's Marty on Robert -- the story arc can. That's gotta be -- has been very well what's what's the vendors -- things that people consider -- there's the just some 200 and then there's suggest some 300. And it can't Nvidia are both kind of trade off wins in both categories so in these some 200 dollars which is that -- price category I like these geforce thing energy he taxes here are about 460 bucks or so now. -- sixty utter insanity and also roughly the same price. -- and issue 4050s. Either of these both really did. You know this was faster in this game that was Pasternak gains and faster pirates that was faster or does it mean they trade off. You know victories depending on the game stuff but you won't you're not -- find new ways. You know there will say is that this is sort of a stock car -- single slide. Card with one power connector there are versions of this available -- easily cost like ten dollars more that are double wide -- like this you know that they take. To -- to. They practice what I suggest getting -- because that thing runs hot really. And versions out there from vendors like HIS and vision intact and stuff that have. That are double wide put a lot -- but actually get the double and one it's worth the extra ten or fifteen so off brand -- to name -- cards it's actually questions now we've had a couple people. And third there's not a huge difference anymore it's not the styles of music the same respect design and in its more like cooling in the team on it's if it's a cooling sometimes they over clock on the tiny bit over clocking isn't making huge. Difference you know. So and and there's a lot of what you would call me amber agencies there's not a lot of what. You consider offering just because I'm -- off brand you doesn't mean they're one of the best selling renders out yet like worldwide in these sell millions and -- and -- new to America or something like that it. I -- have taken a step down now on maybe you're not a gamer we -- so discrete graphics performance. 300 bucks for GPU CPU motherboard come up or is it just it almost and that's who many options out there and 30300 for all of those things is kind of a lot but you can get a dual core course you do like -- 8500. Cheap that the good ice sheet. Option. A and and what ever -- hundred dollar you know motherboard that supports it. A couple of gigs of DDR 28 mayors -- and it's super -- super super she now and then here's what here's you're you're good cheap hundred dollar graphics option geforce 9600 GT is. Sub. Some doesn't like from the united boxers only guy who's going to weigh -- its its not that great but it's gonna be. Ten times better than integrated graphics just never he's angry if you can import so. -- is it that is all together it's not that much you know. That's actually be welcome to three. That's almost have to work you did to step up from the 500 or something well you know and then you gotta get a CPU cooler and you pay tax and shipping in wobble you know but that's around that ballpark and that it can be good upgrade if you got through your for your own computer and it's. Really Asian. You're 500 dollar PC from three years ago with a nice -- yet. Kyle while hiking in Tallahassee very -- which is in annoying name -- apologized but it's a tough one. Got a thumbs up is the I seven really that means. People are like I understand. Because it's it's -- person just like the price is overlap with the top of the line -- yeah extremes he is a Quad Core processors a lot of people don't realize there all the arts center at the Quad Core with hyper threading that's actually eight virtual CDs you open up that task manager in windows UC ACP used because it's -- two threads perceive you. Great for some rendering applications not really useful for videogames very most games not there are a few games that are really -- really well not that many of them and if you happen to have a really did graphics card where you're -- CPU limited. They'll be faster than that but for the most part not super great -- great for rendering great for folding and all these other than those sorts of applications things that are. Things that are limited by memory bandwidth they've got a -- and analysts. Which leads us nicely into you with the core I seven using triple rams' Dick wolf six gigabyte and three by two gigabyte. Configuration work better than eight gigabytes in the like two by four for my two gigabyte configuration from dvd and equally -- attention deficit yes yes you always want triple stakes look at whether it's three is the need to create is an issue for for the core I seven awards there's. The performance degradation when you start popular eating all them. And then a lot of the off other -- cases and all had six slots you can just popular classics and get so you want to go in multiples of three. And they're selling kits now they're selling kits that country's good. So if you're if you're looking for nice having -- look at that probably new memory. Could you DDR -- here three motherboard and the processor yet and they do your three if you don't get the super high speed 1800 records crazy over clockers that you just get them 1066. Supports. And the CPU get the lower and one the nine when he or whatever which is. Faster than the top and extreme edition of the the court you quads then that's not too expensive -- lot of horse killer. Dan looks like you're going to be problem between the motherboard the processor and memory and processors and 700 processor and getting under 300 bucks and it's really good CPU. Ram's not all that much but until -- fifty bucks for motherboard. That that makes it expensive quickly still the greatest deliberate and just because this is their future socket for -- for the next you know round themselves yet who who do that -- is a long time. Are on to view the activity is the core two duo dead what the best Intel core duo for the buck power versus price please. The 501 to tell -- what's. I don't -- you do seem to remember the court you do yeah I mean -- and at a certain price range and that's what's left and there's no two quarters coming in the new architecture for quite a little while yet so that's thats still very viable and that's what they're great deals. I can't I don't know what's the exact invest one. My colleague what cases actually do in this Quad Core roundup over for next year that's going to be it's it's like every currently shipping model or so the of this. Intel quad -- So go check that out next week or something or so but until then I think it's the nine the 200. Is the lowest and 9000 series or record and -- 45 and -- him and those of us and obviously the high -- you if you can you afford to go to the -- and if nine mean would you even go for one of the of the quad I would not get the thirteen hundred dollar price an in the extreme edition right just not there I mean. Money to performance it's not -- had the lowest and I seven is great up performs the best Quad Core they had before. Yes. I would get that other than that you know go -- 200 or less dollars court deals because ultimately crisis and -- jump and all over the place right now with like -- supplies. Yet. Yeah that's mr. that's more graphics card questions where yeah. What actually will be equipped -- support video ram apartment building vipers of the gigabyte. And how much power we looking for in the new year but -- did -- are they are they throttling back on the power requirements not really -- I wouldn't look for that to happen. If you're going to have a really high end graphics target system you want to get 550 or six or what our plan look for the 85 you know 85%. Deficient. You know -- whatever we want and actually certifies that it really delivers the power it says on the gas and and does it with the conversion with good efficiency get one of those. And if you're going to do hiding cards -- like crossfire has -- in a couple of them in their start on at 800 or more. If he's gonna go for marriage graphics card you have room mid -- CPU you know -- before fifties there are. Finding good and you know as long as you get -- sufficiently. At what point do you look at like the one gigabyte card versus 512 months -- they're they're playing around with the memory numbers you can get cheap cards with a gigabyte and they're just trying to sell to people who think gigabytes -- and oxygen faster on the Q cards it's not you really have to get into the cards that are in the price range of this one this is geforce GTX 260 with 216 course this is probably the best sub 300 dollar -- right now this ingredient HD before you send me with a gigabyte. This is a little less than anyway but that's the price range where gig starts to matter when you go higher resolutions start adding ideas and stuff on. -- nineteen by twelve and higher yet thank you Michael and higher forks and -- this thing that's that's where the source make it different opinions ten titles are actually start to take a lot of use up a lot of new memory for pictures that -- detectors are relieved -- they're getting huge and and just you know models and stuff that's of the DX the newest -- ten titles are showing more difference for having more memory than -- any recommendations on home theatre PC cards. Stick with the net not this exact model but these sub 100 dollar cards will come in flavors that have you passive cooler bombs or at least really wouldn't -- Fan like in those -- overly long car like that that's really wide and has you know a really big -- on this means you require for on the air or just has a big heat sink. And no -- Look for those this is because it could you what you want and computer PC machines super -- Are there any sort of immunity to three cards accelerating. The unpacking of of the Blu-ray disc that is they all are all both ATI and obviously is cards do. Excellent media -- just -- its top notch performance quality. Your you'd be hard pressed to find a piece of consumer electronics thinking so basically what you could use an awful. -- hundred dollar price range you're good for Blu-ray home theatre everything like even the super -- even the 59 dollar card -- now they're just they're just monster he would -- like that."

" Jason often -- he was always ladies and gentlemen -- want to catch more Jason's reviews do yourself a favor check out extreme tech dot com benchmarks for -- how accused if the ultimate site for any true PC performance enthusiasts it is amazing and a delightful read gold here every today. Coming up if you're in the market for new HT TV or Blu-ray player do not buy anything into Lieberman PC -- Robert -- has to say you and your wallet wolf thank yes but first we want to -- one of the sponsors that helps us bring Tekzilla TU."

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" The website we just can't get enough about what set that we just can't stay away from because it's too useful funny is teetering irresistible this week's kiss -- dot com. I have an addiction the kind of addiction and I can only -- about once a year. My sickness is the Japanese toys and gadgets but it's always been able to find a way to purchase them online. Now let's see -- is fine. This like features tons of brake business for our friends in the far east it's one of the most complete and well organized Japanese gadgets at -- esteem. My favorite way to browse it by using the categories on the left. Search for cool -- gadgets which are cute. Vintage and retro and even the most -- him or he need to complete your vast collection of pink USB dongle you can also search by color. Since most of the products are shipped directly from Tokyo is a good chance that all the instructions manuals are written in Japanese. -- aggression by your language skills or take the adventurous route try to figure it out for yourself. They don't sell the wacky things they're also cameras headphones watches and other gadgets that you can't easily come by here in the states. -- looking for that robotic check or pencil sharpener shaped like and knows the find the perfect Japanese gift and his mind dot com."

" But the holiday buying season in full swing -- got a ton of questions about HDTVs and hi Def video so -- think it was a good time to get PC mag dot com HD expert Robert parent. Back on the shell and just at a street and the best HDTV buys welcome back this -- you've grown so good to have you here with Clinton. So the last time you're on we you made the distinction that."

" Asthma source appeared to an LCD of compare the size yes which people have been talking up a bit lately actually -- going to make -- that used to believe. I'm so that does still hold true them hasn't changed too much -- last time."

" At one particular plasma that was way every others play that we'll talk about a little bit."

" Really now is testing not true eyes -- worth upgrading if you bought a new set say in the past two years or so probably not. Still safe yeah."

" I mean two years ago their make -- pretty darn good TVs at that point. Reasons to upgrade now would be anything meteor I've on additional transition which really only applies to you if you are -- Receive your programming from over the air. And in that case you want a digital tuner built into the TV rather than using a separate standalone box but could be one reason may be upgrade a smaller bedroom to -- something like that to a -- if you're still using an antenna. But otherwise you'll. There's just some to be said about big screen flat widescreen TV's compared to -- tubes especially can watch. Movie contact us everything that you see -- the movies is a widescreen format. And that detail the resolution of modern TVs to really let's take advantage of not only the best sources of video that are available today from your cable or satellite providers. But disc formats are getting from dvd on to Blu-ray will look better on that new TV."

" So lot of people this holiday season are trying to find something in the sub 1000 dollar range when some recommendations they have been."

" I just finished a review of a brand new 22 inch Toshiba TV that 228500. U. And it is wonderful it's about 340 dollars online right now. How can how 22 inches just which has -- built in nineteen inches as well on the same series in the nineteenth -- actually comes in black and white if you need a different frame quartermaster corps. Black and white screen like I don't retro -- All monochrome and be so weird. One thing that Toshiba does better than a lot of other component companies is color consistency with the display is what you get is very accurate Colorado box that's -- I really appreciate. Another model that's out there right now that is a terrific deal is the 42 inch sharp. 42 -- the 45 you gotta love those names you I was these comics hammer something. Now up but our TV but for about 900 bucks online you have a forty to a screen with 1080. 65 series now. If you're going okay here's the slightly less expensive. Sort of so called less expensive model compared to the new 65 series. It turns out the current value is actually a slightly better performer -- and other cool features that us. Mostly just the resolution the other thing too is every TV mentioning. Does perfect HD video processing -- in the sense that if you're receiving state Kennedy -- broadcasts from of the year. All the TVs and talking about properly be interlaced and into a true progressive picture. With full retail without with minimizing any jagged edge artifacts or other anomalies that can distract in the viewing experience."

" Now I'm -- got a little extra cash burning a hole in your pocket this holiday season what are we have four people willing to spend around 2000."

" There are a lot of great options I think one of the best improved companies as far as safety he manufactures this -- Samsung Electronics. Terrific lineup of everything that they currently offer I can't really pick one up the -- that's the one to avoid unlike last year where I can pick a couple of models out that we're just wow. Anyway in the fifty if you go 52 which is where you need a 52 inch screen that perhaps you can sacrifice of things they like 120 hurts display technology. They have the Allen 528550. Serious that's the five series -- are panels from Samsung. Terrific -- arguably the highest contrast for sixty -- panel. Out of the box terrific color quality with the movie mode. And good overall video like I mentioned before perfect -- video processing and addition to just. Pretty decent standard -- up conversions while."

" Limited and Samsung B 52 and 46 yet insecure one if you have to have say even better contrast and 120 -- technology in their sixers panels are some of the top sellers right now and they have those available. And forty to 52 inch screen sizes but you get the 46 inch model for about the same prices that 52 inch five series tomorrow so. You have good value there now of course if you can step up another hundred bucks or so. They have a seven series panel which is just delicious the look at it and just Fiat brigade 52 inch version but the 46 since version is about 1600 bucks on line terrific. Some 2000 range it is it features all the sympathies -- your featured great. Multimedia support as well all have USB ports for pictures and music. The seven series steps it up with the U ethernet Jack on the back that you plug and it's a deal and compliant devices digital living network alliance. Standard so you have -- NASA device or personal computer in the room or are you predicting councils nowadays supported. But it's during the content from those devices right to TV itself over the ethernet connection. It hasn't been enough at CS last year and Clinton -- I hope so that's distinctly non annuity feature and the streaming video support includes HD formats. 48 -- 64 and other formats as well and it added Samsung semi. Well what other brand is LG -- another company that really took a look at what they were you last year and made some significant improvement specifically collar quality. A consistency and color accuracy -- top notch now it is. It also includes sets of controls that in but he's into really fine tuning -- display will definitely appreciate it one of the best that's controls on any TV -- that. Seven ULTX. Model on the forget that right to build on 4247 and screen sizes and it's about one point some five inches thick. So if you're looking for that super thin model. On the Simpsons out of things is actually -- series which is about as thin as well so it's just. We start -- that fan. The FD don't seem flexible that would Tacoma and it's like oh. Who edited a little bit if you're gonna wall mount for something like that too it's nice to have a thinner display Sunday were going to just let screens. Hopefully it looks liberal democracy and our pocket it would be the best. The quick thing I have to mention about Samsung and it and I wish every company would do this but Simpson actually realizes that as TV shipment today. The modern television's. They're essentially computers and -- run on various bits of software. And Simpson's one of the few companies want to that I can think of -- this when that went about this apply the firmware updates for their TVs on line for the users to download. Look him up but you can't put Iran and decide but whom practically every model that I've mentioned today has fixed that the Obama for something that might not be very obvious but. Hey at least that provided at even par on the -- To update I asked -- that every year nobody's doing it yet so that have to be on things they're going to probably at very -- my call home check yourself if you -- update what the owner now exactly should be that."

" So -- you have unlimited money you can spend any amount and a TV -- funny season or would you recommend."

" Well there's a 185000. Dollar front projector from meridian and I really really like but Kate I need my house first picked up. If he can't afford Marines reference projector. Ten megapixel resolution. It's beautiful up. Pioneer -- plasma is the current series the past fifteen sixteenths displaced on the planet. Nothing else there is no other TV out their -- today that delivers better real world contrast around 9001 if your into the number thing. Perfect viewing angles I mean plows off axis is just going to be phenomenal. The screen material that is something that like people don't realize that pioneer plasma is an optical grade plastic rather than the glass surfaces you see on most possible. Weightless reflective -- reflective than some. LCD screens that. And on top of that in it in -- written and well lit room like -- the studio. The screen color is super dark so that it maintains apparent contrast very very well. -- also have that perfect HD processing and it has the deal and support for video audio pictures streaming. Every picture format that I'm aware of the support that he is well. Jules -- down and and I am the number honestly if I -- the 5020s about 2600 bucks. Which isn't bad that these that the fifty interest sixtieth version gets closer to 4000. If you can't step up from that. Take a look at their elite series or their signature series panels for even higher levels of control in terms of picture quality but just right out of the box. The pioneer growth is the everyone options to its just like wow what is that they don't even the task without one. Yes that that's the that's when I get a lot. So of course you need an HD source what is your recommendation you prefer -- addicts who. I think it all looks like garbage to me really compared to Blu-ray and and especially when you get into you'll see if your if your if you've got a good TV a full 1080. 1080 I video on it. You will see the overly compressed sources of cable and satellite. It's hard to say one is better than the other -- tuition each station is different. I see some HD channels that are using incorrect aspect ratios and squashing idea is that we're just talking about last week addresses -- history HD channel US that you don't let her boxing on -- that aren't going into it but anyway they need to fix their aspect prepares to play actors Arnold squished. But anyway. The bit rate the bit rate for cable or satellite delivery. Regardless you're getting in over your coax line through here it's never going to be what Blu-ray can deliver and when you're dealing with complex scenes. Detail. Do you want to see 5 o'clock so what's -- individual -- of 5 o'clock -- or do you want to see just kind of agree."

" The biggest fear is a really good HD at the same time for workers and our industry it's like must fix the midcap have to -- have BC -- beneath -- scaring. So it now that you say that you -- the most what players you can."

" PlayStation 3 remains one of the top players in the world for a couple of reasons it's the only Blu-ray player that has built in Wi-Fi making it easy to connect on your local network for necessary for more updates that every player -- And that makes it -- it's also because of all the updates there are on the forefront of Blu-ray disc format feature support. Namely the picture in picture feature and the online access feature for downloading content can be feeding lines and bonus view. In particular to form those two features it's also the fastest disk player in terms of load speeds because you. You have that cell processor grinding went in there. It's able to grind through some -- the the Joba has the menus and other features that you see a lot of movies nowadays -- let me first but the distant. You get this crazy load screen we go on for a minute or longer on some players and on the PlayStation 3 it'll burn through that way faster than your. You're used to any other models have an interest -- console for any reason totally understand that. I have to say of all the new Blu-ray players of that so far this year let's go back to something and Sony's BD PS3 fifty. -- For either bug fixes -- compatibility enhancements things like that. This actually does that it's built and it will just caught the -- I have a firmware update available on the block. It also has terrific up conversion video coverage for your old standard Def dvds. Now -- us because PS3 is one of the best up scaling up converting dvd players out there but it turns out -- 350 is almost as good. It's right in that category also it's super energy efficient now your average blue -- it's clear consumes about 25 watts. The Sony player election consume about fifteen what does that compare to the Piccard when everything else is happening up there it's it's it's impressive skill level efficiency."

" Well thank you so much I'm gonna have to ask if you questions of my own after a weekend off the air is I have. We'll talk story about -- Now do you want to catch any of Roberts HD review work just surf on over to PC mag dot com if you on the latest HDTV info robber is the man to follow. Plus don't forget to catch him on DL dot TV's -- extreme every Thursday at noon Pacific. -- it's time her beaming -- from carry out in New York. "

" You can grab him because healthy Christmas I think it's an ear phones and then he mentioned. You don't like the hard here because they find the ears and me don't -- any of the outside. We can recommend something and then there's forty dollars."

" It's your questions just -- in that you holy look like -- there are right actually I was like it's gonna be president isn't even a question. Yes I don't smart rules are addicted the way okay question your bones eyes for kids is a few -- and need to think about first. Make sure the kids don't wear that walking in the streets it's pretty easy to miss oncoming traffic it's a huge -- campaign to examine this -- right. That's the guy on his bluntly chemistry with his dog sitting next to impose it upon is likely. Well you don't you've got hit by a bus is an -- and phone."

" Don't let the last thing you hear be Mozart that they've made it like you laugh but don't get it pedestrians get run over their fiscal times because people drive like maniacs and because people walk around reading newspapers and playing on their iPhone or listening to music tech. Volume actually is probably something to be considerably more concerned -- they love the loud volumes and your -- can be cranked up ridiculously high and might cause permanent hearing damage -- when my closest friends managed to pretty much destroyed hearing before the age of eighteen because he'd lived with headphones and nobody really knew how easy it was to damage your -- at that point."

" My parents and I would say if I can hear your music its troops out yes and that that's generally pretty good will to go by but you still want to make sure not one product that you might want to check -- the -- hearsay your parents is these probably turn the volume limit her in the iPhone three -- tipper and I -- things can. Going to get tip -- had apparently to mention has built in calling editors there is such a thing there is such a thing I find myself I'm fascinated at the time this question but that the."

" Anyhow I hearsay your butt and headphones are at -- dot com they keep the -- level that is safer is no matter how Heidi kids try to crank it. On the star -- more options out there for over the ear headphones like cups. But I frogs iPod case it headphones that come with it but the kids here headphones which have pretty big -- pants that are comfortable for kids' ears unlike the normal ones that. But it's pushing down after a -- just make -- kind of grouchy."

" It's an amazing of the used to be like -- senate you know if you're looking for like my first insert name of listening device here they usually put these craft has staked you know two dollar headphones that. You were usually too big for the -- did you."

" I'm actually planning and an eloquent Logitech had sent her on talking of a scheme. Because. -- for some reason the pats just crush my -- after awhile. So I have to make some more comfortable I'll. Also on pink and different different CNET is hosting and Peter insider podcast it. Like she can headphones in every African weeks she probably has a few good suggestions she recommended the Sony MDR two to Tim Kaine. You don't necessarily have the best audio quality behind. Most eight year olds are going to care too much closer discerning. But I was at age. Answer on who live in England style it's -- for the also ultimate hears loud enough -- phones which are expensive but my personal favorite brands they use ultimate ears in my day to day life so I imagine those ones are pretty awesome. As well and there in -- like the ones you're looking for and finally the air -- interactive earphones for kids which are perfect for kids that are super active because they have the loops. Over the years of the can it run around it. Do whatever it is children knew these days and that happens so they can be like on the swings that dinner thing to be -- totally ignoring their peers but headphones and listening to -- the latest exit -- cast for example. -- Like S -- only about headphones that -- a -- of all you editors so -- pretty safe for those precious precious little ears. -- get your fifteen seconds of Internet fame centers and video. Ali need to do is record yourself and a video camera asking that question a lot of art and fifteen seconds an -- to an email muscling the video question is subject line. New attachments to use but first it's time to thank one of our sponsors the United States airports."

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" Few video mailbag the first one from heat he writes in I'm finding it extremely difficult quite a seven point one speaker system from those are creative labs to about 711 sound card on my super gaming computer. What happened our speaker makers going into -- slump. He it's not -- slump -- I think seven point 1 well there's a ton album if you look at in the home theater market especially the mid to high end home -- market time millions billions more than we can discuss here without spending weeks. To arguments speakers. They never seem to take off on the whole PC gaming front. But there are still a lot of five point -- speaker system that there's simple one really requires that he I think he did works much better in the big room the next two speakers are taking from five point one descent when one. Are left back in right back in addition to the surrounds. And they should be a few feet behind your head. -- is great guided interactive guide opium was speaker Leo I just never had ceded their beaches. You -- console gaming so home PC gaming just never seem to you memento really thinking. I think it works better -- That's my personal -- You know it also lot of wires -- a license for gaming I think five point ones overkill unless and sitting at somebody else's work well it you know if I'm if I don't it's somebody else's world. Five point one gaming like five point wants it to for gaming is great if it's my little squirrelly office. By -- gave -- just seems too complicated setup that's understandable but -- your consoles in your living room with your -- TV different I'm -- PC -- desperate to. Well I'd just say this to be originally my living room like Al ball fire up why actually -- and so narrow -- can't really fit the readers -- person out of phase cancellation of its youth it's the week it's the worst that's -- not discuss the acoustics and hell are my living room. But typically what."

" Or -- doesn't think I can handle it okay before it is my mind she writes have you seen as many ITX motherboard this thing takes the court to do you know. DDR 200 and has it built in geforce seven to 100 and is -- a writer. I have actually no need for but I want to make something with one anyway they're so cool anything anyway anything he wasn't anything with -- ending and -- getting it on."

" Okay if you've never seen one -- the idea -- of -- are really cool their 170 millimeters square and yes they are adorable really didn't dig with the board when talking to play the bottom. And that nearly adorable as nano like hit by the boards. Which -- like a 120 millimeters -- or PC 14 boards which nobody in the real world overseas that are 96 by ninety millimeters and actually are pretty much an entire PC. There's so cool what are they portfolio with mortgage use anything from a Blu-ray Christian home theatre PC to a low power prouder than maniac yet things really start it would be -- technologies and their legendary. C three processor which is mostly low power and could still run some form of windows these days as president and Yankee exceed his back meat processor you point. Q what he's having really cool going to -- dash I TX dot com for the basically all they do is media TXZ. Live for the media TX resource center it's. -- basically they have a lot of ideas and previous all the news and that media ethics form factor from car PCs to customize it."

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" Well it's either the perfect fingerprint catcher ever fingerprint -- I'm you know I'm also really over shiny technology. Really it's shiny set it up so it doesn't work and your ignorance and stand between. This is actually need to 1000 presumably want with -- sixty my hard drive but frankly you don't care about that and you don't care about that show them what they care about to touch the keyboard. And they get book with -- 92%. Keyboard 92% of both -- language for keyboard keyboard."

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" It's the biggest keyboard we found in that book yet atom powered speedboats if you hurts. Processors you have to use the left and right mouse button -- the -- I am going to be left and right of the -- that would -- litigating used Giuliani you can use the touch -- so as a crack -- it's an -- if you're into the -- keeping its -- an unusual position for the keys. I'll watch the battery to to -- lithium ion battery no six cell batteries until January -- sixty what's within -- point nine inch screen and eight gigabytes of storage which is not enough storage. The big drive that sixty gigabyte drive at their whopping sixty dollars to the price the fifty bucks the ten point two inch screen true that there how much. About 415 configuration -- configurations about 350. Totally and yes they also offer it's cool there are also offering the option of a internal -- a motive for 200 bucks. You can -- Bluetooth on the Wi-Fi adapter which is really cool. These are certain get really good -- are really missing from this especially if you're sales type person isn't video outputs HP reserves that -- 2133 models different business folks a lot of people get these these tops customized they have they another custom -- you -- believe you can customize yourself. The outlook and as having different options I just like I just I just I'm tired of it my iPhone -- the same problem actually most products just. -- technology industry give up on portable objects that are shiny and gather fingerprints it's pissing me off."

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" holiday season and economic crisis is being damaged Tekzilla crew is look at her shopping advice especially around graphics cards and the new I seven processors. I've kind of questions of insanity which cards provide the biggest bank for the -- is the new I seven all that what's the most appropriate car for -- home theatre PC. And there are many many more so many in fact we is that -- get -- GPU expert extreme tech dot com's senior technology analyst. Jason cross back in the studio an outline of buying guide and answer a few of your questions Jason welcome back to the show hello my friend. You are heard you were up your eyeballs to your -- your hair follicles would graphics card yes and actually the -- about 2000 ultra right here. No they've all all the everything's getting cheaper so. Maybe if thousand dollars now. Public. What they were excited right now the new CPUs from Intel or the last paragraph -- liberals really get on the news you can use our great stuff most important lead the new mother boards many of them support both -- and crossfire single and you get locked into. Who do GPUs for -- duties for me. -- the -- boards have amazing -- but they -- doesn't seem to -- single when -- under 200 but now it's all super expensive stuff for council premium -- and -- be another chipset coming maybe second quarter or summer -- next year that will be the affordable ones but until then it's all gonna be. Expensive he's been thieves who is Nvidia still sitting on the you know the cost and power supplies no. No no no limit to limit the amount of power or money it will suck down in terms of of pure GPU performance not for money -- They're still drawn a lot of power. But with all the prices come down -- has been given -- such stiff competition that they've lowered their prices dramatically there's a real battle going on which is good it's great for consumers when they start having a real price war which is what's happening now. Cost is no object which party line for three game. Probably believe this is this is API said tool GPU radio 48 from the X two it's probably the fastest single card you can yet. Sometimes the geforce GTX 280 as the pastor Warren and it's a little less expensive linens. And of course you want to load two or three of those -- with you know that supports it and that would be your money's no object thing about him. Well at this point or or two chips on a single board performing as well we're better than as a liar -- in this case of the crossfire program. And it is not actually been doing right now we don't have a new product that is changing views on board. Probably because -- latest you can use something like one point four billion. Transistors and it's you know really big and really power hungry so they can't do yet. So if you're feeling really doing a dual GPU single card and it is it's pretty much the same things crossfire if you had to agree on -- forties and you. One gigabyte cards in -- purchasing things. They would take excellence if for a flurry of questions from twitter that your -- I love the twitter questions. It is this back on here. What the best value priced mid range PCI express graphics are available now from Robert -- 88 and smarty hall. Smartest takes that's Marty on Robert -- the story arc can. That's gotta be -- has been very well what's what's the vendors -- things that people consider -- there's the just some 200 and then there's suggest some 300. And it can't Nvidia are both kind of trade off wins in both categories so in these some 200 dollars which is that -- price category I like these geforce thing energy he taxes here are about 460 bucks or so now. -- sixty utter insanity and also roughly the same price. -- and issue 4050s. Either of these both really did. You know this was faster in this game that was Pasternak gains and faster pirates that was faster or does it mean they trade off. You know victories depending on the game stuff but you won't you're not -- find new ways. You know there will say is that this is sort of a stock car -- single slide. Card with one power connector there are versions of this available -- easily cost like ten dollars more that are double wide -- like this you know that they take. To -- to. They practice what I suggest getting -- because that thing runs hot really. And versions out there from vendors like HIS and vision intact and stuff that have. That are double wide put a lot -- but actually get the double and one it's worth the extra ten or fifteen so off brand -- to name -- cards it's actually questions now we've had a couple people. And third there's not a huge difference anymore it's not the styles of music the same respect design and in its more like cooling in the team on it's if it's a cooling sometimes they over clock on the tiny bit over clocking isn't making huge. Difference you know. So and and there's a lot of what you would call me amber agencies there's not a lot of what. You consider offering just because I'm -- off brand you doesn't mean they're one of the best selling renders out yet like worldwide in these sell millions and -- and -- new to America or something like that it. I -- have taken a step down now on maybe you're not a gamer we -- so discrete graphics performance. 300 bucks for GPU CPU motherboard come up or is it just it almost and that's who many options out there and 30300 for all of those things is kind of a lot but you can get a dual core course you do like -- 8500. Cheap that the good ice sheet. Option. A and and what ever -- hundred dollar you know motherboard that supports it. A couple of gigs of DDR 28 mayors -- and it's super -- super super she now and then here's what here's you're you're good cheap hundred dollar graphics option geforce 9600 GT is. Sub. Some doesn't like from the united boxers only guy who's going to weigh -- its its not that great but it's gonna be. Ten times better than integrated graphics just never he's angry if you can import so. -- is it that is all together it's not that much you know. That's actually be welcome to three. That's almost have to work you did to step up from the 500 or something well you know and then you gotta get a CPU cooler and you pay tax and shipping in wobble you know but that's around that ballpark and that it can be good upgrade if you got through your for your own computer and it's. Really Asian. You're 500 dollar PC from three years ago with a nice -- yet. Kyle while hiking in Tallahassee very -- which is in annoying name -- apologized but it's a tough one. Got a thumbs up is the I seven really that means. People are like I understand. Because it's it's -- person just like the price is overlap with the top of the line -- yeah extremes he is a Quad Core processors a lot of people don't realize there all the arts center at the Quad Core with hyper threading that's actually eight virtual CDs you open up that task manager in windows UC ACP used because it's -- two threads perceive you. Great for some rendering applications not really useful for videogames very most games not there are a few games that are really -- really well not that many of them and if you happen to have a really did graphics card where you're -- CPU limited. They'll be faster than that but for the most part not super great -- great for rendering great for folding and all these other than those sorts of applications things that are. Things that are limited by memory bandwidth they've got a -- and analysts. Which leads us nicely into you with the core I seven using triple rams' Dick wolf six gigabyte and three by two gigabyte. Configuration work better than eight gigabytes in the like two by four for my two gigabyte configuration from dvd and equally -- attention deficit yes yes you always want triple stakes look at whether it's three is the need to create is an issue for for the core I seven awards there's. The performance degradation when you start popular eating all them. And then a lot of the off other -- cases and all had six slots you can just popular classics and get so you want to go in multiples of three. And they're selling kits now they're selling kits that country's good. So if you're if you're looking for nice having -- look at that probably new memory. Could you DDR -- here three motherboard and the processor yet and they do your three if you don't get the super high speed 1800 records crazy over clockers that you just get them 1066. Supports. And the CPU get the lower and one the nine when he or whatever which is. Faster than the top and extreme edition of the the court you quads then that's not too expensive -- lot of horse killer. Dan looks like you're going to be problem between the motherboard the processor and memory and processors and 700 processor and getting under 300 bucks and it's really good CPU. Ram's not all that much but until -- fifty bucks for motherboard. That that makes it expensive quickly still the greatest deliberate and just because this is their future socket for -- for the next you know round themselves yet who who do that -- is a long time. Are on to view the activity is the core two duo dead what the best Intel core duo for the buck power versus price please. The 501 to tell -- what's. I don't -- you do seem to remember the court you do yeah I mean -- and at a certain price range and that's what's left and there's no two quarters coming in the new architecture for quite a little while yet so that's thats still very viable and that's what they're great deals. I can't I don't know what's the exact invest one. My colleague what cases actually do in this Quad Core roundup over for next year that's going to be it's it's like every currently shipping model or so the of this. Intel quad -- So go check that out next week or something or so but until then I think it's the nine the 200. Is the lowest and 9000 series or record and -- 45 and -- him and those of us and obviously the high -- you if you can you afford to go to the -- and if nine mean would you even go for one of the of the quad I would not get the thirteen hundred dollar price an in the extreme edition right just not there I mean. Money to performance it's not -- had the lowest and I seven is great up performs the best Quad Core they had before. Yes. I would get that other than that you know go -- 200 or less dollars court deals because ultimately crisis and -- jump and all over the place right now with like -- supplies. Yet. Yeah that's mr. that's more graphics card questions where yeah. What actually will be equipped -- support video ram apartment building vipers of the gigabyte. And how much power we looking for in the new year but -- did -- are they are they throttling back on the power requirements not really -- I wouldn't look for that to happen. If you're going to have a really high end graphics target system you want to get 550 or six or what our plan look for the 85 you know 85%. Deficient. You know -- whatever we want and actually certifies that it really delivers the power it says on the gas and and does it with the conversion with good efficiency get one of those. And if you're going to do hiding cards -- like crossfire has -- in a couple of them in their start on at 800 or more. If he's gonna go for marriage graphics card you have room mid -- CPU you know -- before fifties there are. Finding good and you know as long as you get -- sufficiently. At what point do you look at like the one gigabyte card versus 512 months -- they're they're playing around with the memory numbers you can get cheap cards with a gigabyte and they're just trying to sell to people who think gigabytes -- and oxygen faster on the Q cards it's not you really have to get into the cards that are in the price range of this one this is geforce GTX 260 with 216 course this is probably the best sub 300 dollar -- right now this ingredient HD before you send me with a gigabyte. This is a little less than anyway but that's the price range where gig starts to matter when you go higher resolutions start adding ideas and stuff on. -- nineteen by twelve and higher yet thank you Michael and higher forks and -- this thing that's that's where the source make it different opinions ten titles are actually start to take a lot of use up a lot of new memory for pictures that -- detectors are relieved -- they're getting huge and and just you know models and stuff that's of the DX the newest -- ten titles are showing more difference for having more memory than -- any recommendations on home theatre PC cards. Stick with the net not this exact model but these sub 100 dollar cards will come in flavors that have you passive cooler bombs or at least really wouldn't -- Fan like in those -- overly long car like that that's really wide and has you know a really big -- on this means you require for on the air or just has a big heat sink. And no -- Look for those this is because it could you what you want and computer PC machines super -- Are there any sort of immunity to three cards accelerating. The unpacking of of the Blu-ray disc that is they all are all both ATI and obviously is cards do. Excellent media -- just -- its top notch performance quality. Your you'd be hard pressed to find a piece of consumer electronics thinking so basically what you could use an awful. -- hundred dollar price range you're good for Blu-ray home theatre everything like even the super -- even the 59 dollar card -- now they're just they're just monster he would -- like that."

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" But the holiday buying season in full swing -- got a ton of questions about HDTVs and hi Def video so -- think it was a good time to get PC mag dot com HD expert Robert parent. Back on the shell and just at a street and the best HDTV buys welcome back this -- you've grown so good to have you here with Clinton. So the last time you're on we you made the distinction that."

" Asthma source appeared to an LCD of compare the size yes which people have been talking up a bit lately actually -- going to make -- that used to believe. I'm so that does still hold true them hasn't changed too much -- last time."

" At one particular plasma that was way every others play that we'll talk about a little bit."

" Really now is testing not true eyes -- worth upgrading if you bought a new set say in the past two years or so probably not. Still safe yeah."

" I mean two years ago their make -- pretty darn good TVs at that point. Reasons to upgrade now would be anything meteor I've on additional transition which really only applies to you if you are -- Receive your programming from over the air. And in that case you want a digital tuner built into the TV rather than using a separate standalone box but could be one reason may be upgrade a smaller bedroom to -- something like that to a -- if you're still using an antenna. But otherwise you'll. There's just some to be said about big screen flat widescreen TV's compared to -- tubes especially can watch. Movie contact us everything that you see -- the movies is a widescreen format. And that detail the resolution of modern TVs to really let's take advantage of not only the best sources of video that are available today from your cable or satellite providers. But disc formats are getting from dvd on to Blu-ray will look better on that new TV."

" So lot of people this holiday season are trying to find something in the sub 1000 dollar range when some recommendations they have been."

" I just finished a review of a brand new 22 inch Toshiba TV that 228500. U. And it is wonderful it's about 340 dollars online right now. How can how 22 inches just which has -- built in nineteen inches as well on the same series in the nineteenth -- actually comes in black and white if you need a different frame quartermaster corps. Black and white screen like I don't retro -- All monochrome and be so weird. One thing that Toshiba does better than a lot of other component companies is color consistency with the display is what you get is very accurate Colorado box that's -- I really appreciate. Another model that's out there right now that is a terrific deal is the 42 inch sharp. 42 -- the 45 you gotta love those names you I was these comics hammer something. Now up but our TV but for about 900 bucks online you have a forty to a screen with 1080. 65 series now. If you're going okay here's the slightly less expensive. Sort of so called less expensive model compared to the new 65 series. It turns out the current value is actually a slightly better performer -- and other cool features that us. Mostly just the resolution the other thing too is every TV mentioning. Does perfect HD video processing -- in the sense that if you're receiving state Kennedy -- broadcasts from of the year. All the TVs and talking about properly be interlaced and into a true progressive picture. With full retail without with minimizing any jagged edge artifacts or other anomalies that can distract in the viewing experience."

" Now I'm -- got a little extra cash burning a hole in your pocket this holiday season what are we have four people willing to spend around 2000."

" There are a lot of great options I think one of the best improved companies as far as safety he manufactures this -- Samsung Electronics. Terrific lineup of everything that they currently offer I can't really pick one up the -- that's the one to avoid unlike last year where I can pick a couple of models out that we're just wow. Anyway in the fifty if you go 52 which is where you need a 52 inch screen that perhaps you can sacrifice of things they like 120 hurts display technology. They have the Allen 528550. Serious that's the five series -- are panels from Samsung. Terrific -- arguably the highest contrast for sixty -- panel. Out of the box terrific color quality with the movie mode. And good overall video like I mentioned before perfect -- video processing and addition to just. Pretty decent standard -- up conversions while."

" Limited and Samsung B 52 and 46 yet insecure one if you have to have say even better contrast and 120 -- technology in their sixers panels are some of the top sellers right now and they have those available. And forty to 52 inch screen sizes but you get the 46 inch model for about the same prices that 52 inch five series tomorrow so. You have good value there now of course if you can step up another hundred bucks or so. They have a seven series panel which is just delicious the look at it and just Fiat brigade 52 inch version but the 46 since version is about 1600 bucks on line terrific. Some 2000 range it is it features all the sympathies -- your featured great. Multimedia support as well all have USB ports for pictures and music. The seven series steps it up with the U ethernet Jack on the back that you plug and it's a deal and compliant devices digital living network alliance. Standard so you have -- NASA device or personal computer in the room or are you predicting councils nowadays supported. But it's during the content from those devices right to TV itself over the ethernet connection. It hasn't been enough at CS last year and Clinton -- I hope so that's distinctly non annuity feature and the streaming video support includes HD formats. 48 -- 64 and other formats as well and it added Samsung semi. Well what other brand is LG -- another company that really took a look at what they were you last year and made some significant improvement specifically collar quality. A consistency and color accuracy -- top notch now it is. It also includes sets of controls that in but he's into really fine tuning -- display will definitely appreciate it one of the best that's controls on any TV -- that. Seven ULTX. Model on the forget that right to build on 4247 and screen sizes and it's about one point some five inches thick. So if you're looking for that super thin model. On the Simpsons out of things is actually -- series which is about as thin as well so it's just. We start -- that fan. The FD don't seem flexible that would Tacoma and it's like oh. Who edited a little bit if you're gonna wall mount for something like that too it's nice to have a thinner display Sunday were going to just let screens. Hopefully it looks liberal democracy and our pocket it would be the best. The quick thing I have to mention about Samsung and it and I wish every company would do this but Simpson actually realizes that as TV shipment today. The modern television's. They're essentially computers and -- run on various bits of software. And Simpson's one of the few companies want to that I can think of -- this when that went about this apply the firmware updates for their TVs on line for the users to download. Look him up but you can't put Iran and decide but whom practically every model that I've mentioned today has fixed that the Obama for something that might not be very obvious but. Hey at least that provided at even par on the -- To update I asked -- that every year nobody's doing it yet so that have to be on things they're going to probably at very -- my call home check yourself if you -- update what the owner now exactly should be that."

" So -- you have unlimited money you can spend any amount and a TV -- funny season or would you recommend."

" Well there's a 185000. Dollar front projector from meridian and I really really like but Kate I need my house first picked up. If he can't afford Marines reference projector. Ten megapixel resolution. It's beautiful up. Pioneer -- plasma is the current series the past fifteen sixteenths displaced on the planet. Nothing else there is no other TV out their -- today that delivers better real world contrast around 9001 if your into the number thing. Perfect viewing angles I mean plows off axis is just going to be phenomenal. The screen material that is something that like people don't realize that pioneer plasma is an optical grade plastic rather than the glass surfaces you see on most possible. Weightless reflective -- reflective than some. LCD screens that. And on top of that in it in -- written and well lit room like -- the studio. The screen color is super dark so that it maintains apparent contrast very very well. -- also have that perfect HD processing and it has the deal and support for video audio pictures streaming. Every picture format that I'm aware of the support that he is well. Jules -- down and and I am the number honestly if I -- the 5020s about 2600 bucks. Which isn't bad that these that the fifty interest sixtieth version gets closer to 4000. If you can't step up from that. Take a look at their elite series or their signature series panels for even higher levels of control in terms of picture quality but just right out of the box. The pioneer growth is the everyone options to its just like wow what is that they don't even the task without one. Yes that that's the that's when I get a lot. So of course you need an HD source what is your recommendation you prefer -- addicts who. I think it all looks like garbage to me really compared to Blu-ray and and especially when you get into you'll see if your if your if you've got a good TV a full 1080. 1080 I video on it. You will see the overly compressed sources of cable and satellite. It's hard to say one is better than the other -- tuition each station is different. I see some HD channels that are using incorrect aspect ratios and squashing idea is that we're just talking about last week addresses -- history HD channel US that you don't let her boxing on -- that aren't going into it but anyway they need to fix their aspect prepares to play actors Arnold squished. But anyway. The bit rate the bit rate for cable or satellite delivery. Regardless you're getting in over your coax line through here it's never going to be what Blu-ray can deliver and when you're dealing with complex scenes. Detail. Do you want to see 5 o'clock so what's -- individual -- of 5 o'clock -- or do you want to see just kind of agree."

" The biggest fear is a really good HD at the same time for workers and our industry it's like must fix the midcap have to -- have BC -- beneath -- scaring. So it now that you say that you -- the most what players you can."

" PlayStation 3 remains one of the top players in the world for a couple of reasons it's the only Blu-ray player that has built in Wi-Fi making it easy to connect on your local network for necessary for more updates that every player -- And that makes it -- it's also because of all the updates there are on the forefront of Blu-ray disc format feature support. Namely the picture in picture feature and the online access feature for downloading content can be feeding lines and bonus view. In particular to form those two features it's also the fastest disk player in terms of load speeds because you. You have that cell processor grinding went in there. It's able to grind through some -- the the Joba has the menus and other features that you see a lot of movies nowadays -- let me first but the distant. You get this crazy load screen we go on for a minute or longer on some players and on the PlayStation 3 it'll burn through that way faster than your. You're used to any other models have an interest -- console for any reason totally understand that. I have to say of all the new Blu-ray players of that so far this year let's go back to something and Sony's BD PS3 fifty. -- For either bug fixes -- compatibility enhancements things like that. This actually does that it's built and it will just caught the -- I have a firmware update available on the block. It also has terrific up conversion video coverage for your old standard Def dvds. Now -- us because PS3 is one of the best up scaling up converting dvd players out there but it turns out -- 350 is almost as good. It's right in that category also it's super energy efficient now your average blue -- it's clear consumes about 25 watts. The Sony player election consume about fifteen what does that compare to the Piccard when everything else is happening up there it's it's it's impressive skill level efficiency."

" Well thank you so much I'm gonna have to ask if you questions of my own after a weekend off the air is I have. We'll talk story about -- Now do you want to catch any of Roberts HD review work just surf on over to PC mag dot com if you on the latest HDTV info robber is the man to follow. Plus don't forget to catch him on DL dot TV's -- extreme every Thursday at noon Pacific. -- it's time her beaming -- from carry out in New York. "

" You can grab him because healthy Christmas I think it's an ear phones and then he mentioned. You don't like the hard here because they find the ears and me don't -- any of the outside. We can recommend something and then there's forty dollars."

" It's your questions just -- in that you holy look like -- there are right actually I was like it's gonna be president isn't even a question. Yes I don't smart rules are addicted the way okay question your bones eyes for kids is a few -- and need to think about first. Make sure the kids don't wear that walking in the streets it's pretty easy to miss oncoming traffic it's a huge -- campaign to examine this -- right. That's the guy on his bluntly chemistry with his dog sitting next to impose it upon is likely. Well you don't you've got hit by a bus is an -- and phone."

" Don't let the last thing you hear be Mozart that they've made it like you laugh but don't get it pedestrians get run over their fiscal times because people drive like maniacs and because people walk around reading newspapers and playing on their iPhone or listening to music tech. Volume actually is probably something to be considerably more concerned -- they love the loud volumes and your -- can be cranked up ridiculously high and might cause permanent hearing damage -- when my closest friends managed to pretty much destroyed hearing before the age of eighteen because he'd lived with headphones and nobody really knew how easy it was to damage your -- at that point."

" My parents and I would say if I can hear your music its troops out yes and that that's generally pretty good will to go by but you still want to make sure not one product that you might want to check -- the -- hearsay your parents is these probably turn the volume limit her in the iPhone three -- tipper and I -- things can. Going to get tip -- had apparently to mention has built in calling editors there is such a thing there is such a thing I find myself I'm fascinated at the time this question but that the."

" Anyhow I hearsay your butt and headphones are at -- dot com they keep the -- level that is safer is no matter how Heidi kids try to crank it. On the star -- more options out there for over the ear headphones like cups. But I frogs iPod case it headphones that come with it but the kids here headphones which have pretty big -- pants that are comfortable for kids' ears unlike the normal ones that. But it's pushing down after a -- just make -- kind of grouchy."

" It's an amazing of the used to be like -- senate you know if you're looking for like my first insert name of listening device here they usually put these craft has staked you know two dollar headphones that. You were usually too big for the -- did you."

" I'm actually planning and an eloquent Logitech had sent her on talking of a scheme. Because. -- for some reason the pats just crush my -- after awhile. So I have to make some more comfortable I'll. Also on pink and different different CNET is hosting and Peter insider podcast it. Like she can headphones in every African weeks she probably has a few good suggestions she recommended the Sony MDR two to Tim Kaine. You don't necessarily have the best audio quality behind. Most eight year olds are going to care too much closer discerning. But I was at age. Answer on who live in England style it's -- for the also ultimate hears loud enough -- phones which are expensive but my personal favorite brands they use ultimate ears in my day to day life so I imagine those ones are pretty awesome. As well and there in -- like the ones you're looking for and finally the air -- interactive earphones for kids which are perfect for kids that are super active because they have the loops. Over the years of the can it run around it. Do whatever it is children knew these days and that happens so they can be like on the swings that dinner thing to be -- totally ignoring their peers but headphones and listening to -- the latest exit -- cast for example. -- Like S -- only about headphones that -- a -- of all you editors so -- pretty safe for those precious precious little ears. -- get your fifteen seconds of Internet fame centers and video. Ali need to do is record yourself and a video camera asking that question a lot of art and fifteen seconds an -- to an email muscling the video question is subject line. New attachments to use but first it's time to thank one of our sponsors the United States airports."

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" Few video mailbag the first one from heat he writes in I'm finding it extremely difficult quite a seven point one speaker system from those are creative labs to about 711 sound card on my super gaming computer. What happened our speaker makers going into -- slump. He it's not -- slump -- I think seven point 1 well there's a ton album if you look at in the home theater market especially the mid to high end home -- market time millions billions more than we can discuss here without spending weeks. To arguments speakers. They never seem to take off on the whole PC gaming front. But there are still a lot of five point -- speaker system that there's simple one really requires that he I think he did works much better in the big room the next two speakers are taking from five point one descent when one. Are left back in right back in addition to the surrounds. And they should be a few feet behind your head. -- is great guided interactive guide opium was speaker Leo I just never had ceded their beaches. You -- console gaming so home PC gaming just never seem to you memento really thinking. I think it works better -- That's my personal -- You know it also lot of wires -- a license for gaming I think five point ones overkill unless and sitting at somebody else's work well it you know if I'm if I don't it's somebody else's world. Five point one gaming like five point wants it to for gaming is great if it's my little squirrelly office. By -- gave -- just seems too complicated setup that's understandable but -- your consoles in your living room with your -- TV different I'm -- PC -- desperate to. Well I'd just say this to be originally my living room like Al ball fire up why actually -- and so narrow -- can't really fit the readers -- person out of phase cancellation of its youth it's the week it's the worst that's -- not discuss the acoustics and hell are my living room. But typically what."

" Or -- doesn't think I can handle it okay before it is my mind she writes have you seen as many ITX motherboard this thing takes the court to do you know. DDR 200 and has it built in geforce seven to 100 and is -- a writer. I have actually no need for but I want to make something with one anyway they're so cool anything anyway anything he wasn't anything with -- ending and -- getting it on."

" Okay if you've never seen one -- the idea -- of -- are really cool their 170 millimeters square and yes they are adorable really didn't dig with the board when talking to play the bottom. And that nearly adorable as nano like hit by the boards. Which -- like a 120 millimeters -- or PC 14 boards which nobody in the real world overseas that are 96 by ninety millimeters and actually are pretty much an entire PC. There's so cool what are they portfolio with mortgage use anything from a Blu-ray Christian home theatre PC to a low power prouder than maniac yet things really start it would be -- technologies and their legendary. C three processor which is mostly low power and could still run some form of windows these days as president and Yankee exceed his back meat processor you point. Q what he's having really cool going to -- dash I TX dot com for the basically all they do is media TXZ. Live for the media TX resource center it's. -- basically they have a lot of ideas and previous all the news and that media ethics form factor from car PCs to customize it."

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Episode 63 - Video Card Roundup, HDTV Picks, Kid's Headphones! [Discussion]

Robert Heron's fave HDTV picks, Jason Cross picks graphics cars from $50 to $500, Mini ITX motherboards, are there any 7.1 speaker systems for gaming?

Watch or download the episode here

therage800
11 months ago
I forgot I had caught the end of the live stream... At the end I started having some major Déjà vu!
Smeerkaas
11 months ago
What did Veronica mouth at the end of the end clips? It was muted.
boldfire
11 months ago
Good episode this week, you've gotta love having experts in their fields come in to help.

I was hoping for a "best gadget presents for Christmas" segment (e-mailed it in) because I personally find the review segments more fun and interesting than the questions. Any chance of this for next year?
veronicazilla
11 months ago
In reply to Smeerkaas:
What did Veronica mouth at the end of the end clips? It was muted.


Wasn't muted, I just said it very quietly...

"wallace and grommit"
Murphy1d
11 months ago
In reply to veronicazilla:
Wasn't muted, I just said it very quietly...

"wallace and grommit"


Oh, I thought it was "watch as I vomit." :D
pianoplayer88key
11 months ago
@Bearonica.... it wasn't muted?? I distinctly heard the background ambient noise cut out... :)
I even recorded the audio from the HD QT version, zoomed in vertically on that area, and took a screenshot...

First part is the section where you said wallace and grommit very quietly, 2nd (for reference) is the part where Patrick was caught off guard when you said thanks so much for watching.
ArmpitOfDeath
11 months ago
Factory customisation for netbooks? Who needs it Veronica? Patrick has a Gelaskin'd
Macbook, you should know - You can cut the skins down to netbook size.

I gave one of my TT's - the nearest thing I'll ever use to a netbook - the Gelaskin treatment: A quick slice and dice with a knife and I was done.




You'll need to draw out a template to get full coverage of an HP 1000 lid, but it's perfectly possible if you take a well-chosen 13" skin as a start.


Also, is Patrick's new 'do' new? I don't remember it from last week. Does this mean he'll finally stop wearing those hats? :p
Fee
11 months ago
In reply to pianoplayer88key:
@Bearonica.... it wasn't muted?? I distinctly heard the background ambient noise cut out... :)
I even recorded the audio from the HD QT version, zoomed in vertically on that area, and took a screenshot...

First part is the section where you said wallace and grommit very quietly, 2nd (for reference) is the part where Patrick was caught off guard when you said thanks so much for watching.


I think it was a mic problem, because endlessinsanity form #Tekzilla IRC channel recorded the live stream of the filming of the show and it does it there also. The mic might of got temporary knocked loose form Veronica's wiggling lol.
davmoo
11 months ago
In reply to Murphy1d:
Oh, I thought it was "watch as I vomit." :D


I don't know if you're making a joke or serious...but I genuinely thought that's what she said. Maybe I need to have my hearing checked this week :o

A fantastic episode! When it comes to PC graphics hardware, there is nobody better than Jason. Same goes for home theater and Robert, he's the Einstein on the topic. And we still got the two pinnacles of tech knowledge that are Pat and Veronica! Having so much expert knowledge all packed in one show is almost intoxicating.

And for what its worth, especially with the cost of a new motherboard, I think the i7 is currently not worth the price. Maybe next year when the cheaper chip sets come out I'll look at the idea of building a machine up around it. But for now, I'm sticking with C2D and C2Q.

Finally, a comment for Veronica. With this one I'm not saying you ever look bad, so don't take this one to mean that. But I noticed in this episode you looked especially nice. Something different with the hair or makeup?
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