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Game Changer - James Cameron's Avatar, The Saboteur, The Prisoner, and James May's Toy Stories

Monday, December 14th, 2009 – running time 1:10:25
Can James Cameron's Avatar possibly transcend the hype? Does The Saboteur out-GTA GTA IV? Is The Prisoner remake worth watching? The BBC delivers Toy Stories in time for the Holidays.

Segments

Movies: Avatar

It has been 12 years since James Cameron released a major motion picture, and Alex, Dan, and Jeff explain why the release of his newest is no less than an historic occasion. Indeed, the entire movie segment is devoted to Avatar this week, with an extended review by all three guys, and context as to why both the technology and content of the film make it a titanic geek event.

But have no fear! The guys keep this one spoiler-free!

02:37

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Video Games: The Saboteur

Pandemic Studio was sadly closed this year, and its last project has just been released. The Saboteur is an open-world adventure set in Nazi-occupied France, with all the trappings of a AAA title. The guys discuss whether it is a fitting swan-song for the studio.

25:36

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TV: The Prisoner

The cult TV series, The Prisoner, has been remade as an American miniseries by AMC, starring Ian McKellan and Jim Caveziel. Alex, Dan, and Jeff check out the new Prisoner to see if it's worth apprehending.

36:36

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TV: James May's Toy Stories

As the holidays approach, the guys have been looking back fondly on toys from their childhood. Last week's Raised on Rad segment prompted one viewer to recommend the new BBC show, James May's Toy Stories, and what do you know, it is featured in this week's TV segment.

48:08

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Viewer Emails

TRS fan email.

53:16

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Outtakes

Outtakes from the episode.

1:08:12

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Highlights

indiana jones: 1:03:29
tony wragge: 0:05, 1:19
sigourney weaver: 25:14
box office: 3:57

Automatically Generated Transcript

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" Coming up on the show we're talking about James Cameron's new features -- have a time."

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" Hello everybody welcome to Tony Wragge showed up as the number 143 I don't summer I'm just not an unnamed -- and I -- we we know small things rather we strapped into the deep lacks. We put on some three goggles. -- are playing truth and are good."

" I'm glad I tried sending boxes and -- mustache you get a box is not. We -- do not widely -- bonus is wrong you'll see things sort of Alla. Matt namely John Goodman now thinking of grumbling -- we got some bad -- the -- low. Photo items from Belgium -- We like to come to the -- I'll put the hello there are they just -- comes --"

" About -- background and it actually. Superseded. And use -- avatar that yes we don't really -- use -- background because he got some cool ones but this. So -- so that we had to go with it because we're also doing SATA tour which means yeah overshadow a little bit by the movie -- hugs and we have finally seen avatar the much anticipated much."

" Controversy all even on the show."

" Movie legends camera network cited talk about -- Italians and yeah it's candidates in Christmas primarily. Or contact us."

" This week in movies. We are going to talk about pay historic called event. We're talking about James Cameron is about god. Amro while not -- I've just -- like houses historical and I was like committee is saying because we've never reviewed -- change came in below an hour long noted that because they're talking about James Cameron's. Avatar. On now."

" When there's public a lot of teenagers out there. Now I have never. Seen in James Cameron film. And there's probably me got and then and only had the opportunity to let you know there's like. I only saw true like the Titanic and -- and -- really -- napkins and a lot of our enemies and they were all it needs yeah com. So what just to let you know. A very unique filmmaker in net. Mom hasn't made it. A ton of movies. But angry single movie he's need and from forgiving upon a tea which was like not even really. Don completely by hand has made me Manger box office and critic called sex -- So it's terminator. Terminator two was up do you miss -- up aliens and true lies Titanic yeah NASA -- Spielberg and he's done more. By. He's he's already has had anyone on any -- worm and is not something to say I you know later on this trip so. I'm so. Pretty forgiving DL on this guys returning this and I know I haven't no. Not only returning to -- amount really he's been doing this yeah -- this -- order and then you isn't. I imagine it's historical and already this -- is made history and and one attend very unique marketing campaign but also in the technological advances that went into the making of me. And it's funny -- while placing go online to read them. And from people who can describe them in a much more professional and then I could know who really know who frequently showed right real things Allen's movies how often bin that's true on the absolute cutting edge and put. Propelling forward the technology in film not only in. Con tent as in light of what this movie's about is about technology and also the way he's tells me and interior you changed everything now by using computer graphics to. Create dose more professional and never seen anything like that and I wanna try and an -- Titanic they literally build. And it and Titanic was the first I believe was the first time these digital stunt people and the crowd digital crowd again like I got high falls and hits the -- on this one out verging on track but it's okay -- isn't doesn't talk back out and that you know yup he says there avatars this replaying a James Cameron road. Fifteen years ago our Salomon and you couldn't do -- the times and you want to -- puppets and knowledge you anything you know and it is Sunday new and gets a little weaken its realize his vision. And what was one of the tipping point was calling them in Lord of the Rings -- There would be you know column in the or the rings went out the best CG work and it and turn your -- And also with the other technology risen Lord of the Rings that was that massive massive crowd control -- capitalism which came from GAAP. Behind -- crowd so. -- right okay so but what so what he's done for avatar is one. Really I think -- performance captures so we've seen that besiege and movies from Robert Zemeckis using the motion capture her performance capture technology by James Cameron inventing this camera system that photographs actors' faces so -- and on top. -- Muscular curve ball was you know. Al muscular you're gonna -- very data from the muscles and an actor's face to Trinidad enemies and are also now seeing that face insane that the eyes and expression as precedent has yet also need to have this a little -- still must look like a microphone but."

" It's actually small camera that sits in front of their face and shoots the face while -- acting out these scenes and recording their -- is the same time. And their performance stuff that's pretty -- amazing and they built this whole."

" Room big warehouse that was all mode in motion Kara performance capture area."

" So they can actually be moving around in three dimensional space we all this -- was getting how they were interacting with other objects in other people organs being in this."

" Ace is not many can send."

" And there is going to find this and then you can send these performances and then just exists is data and then Cameron can go in with a camera and see a very rough outline of that data and -- however when this -- thing is that -- imagine this camera system and the name of which I'm forgetting. Where -- normally wind up until this point. When you shoot. Composite is the only nation in special effects sequences when he's seen in making mountains where people on a green screen Star Wars on the -- whenever they are acting. And it against another thing it's not there -- there's a Greenspan now and that all comes in later and then and they might it was Iraq composite Election Day and then. Had been roughly on a computer and then see composite. What that might look like but doesn't really August they had to use your imagination when they you know the system."

" Where you are now he's the director is able to see hit. And like you have your LCD viewfinder and you're cheating on your email guy you're seeing that's gonna news or augmented reality -- him not because his camera he's walking through the three space. Watching the performance as it existed in this three dimensional space he was in with a camera which is just. About the -- it's just a different a different -- this this is -- that yeah."

" Let us that it already has meaning history and it's not an -- off -- you get to -- the movies and used to seeing something. That no one had no no no one has ever not exactly. -- but can it can mean. On bound for glory which was a first inning with a steady cam or art or are it's the first guy sims -- look. The road right or are its Star Wars or in the matrix or whatever right now. So I'm gonna turn you guys mean to weigh in on -- before I do. Avatar is about AM. Marina a handicapped. -- crippled. And it crippled marine his twin brother was a scientist there was going to be on this excursion in on this planet pandora. He passed away. And now this marine is going to take the place of his scientist brother to explore need biology. On this planet but is also working for you the Marines that have other intentions well they're not. I mean -- may be ex military McCarron says Brendan yeah. -- has come down. The point you military industrial complex -- it exactly so out. That is the story sort of that is directed by James Cameron you -- ended -- I didn't buy this guy. Alexander Albrecht yeah avatar. This well outside also does pretty good. I nearly any change going to be played in anything other than trading and it's also being releasing today -- you name it may have performed name names. You know -- want to be good news for both versions -- doesn't listen IMAX three. We sought in -- 899 IMAX three meter reading any so we'll be Chiming in on Macs. And it's a three is acknowledging that he's been developing. All all this time. But I think it's. It's not the same -- that we -- under three pounds he's a spy kids to use the first generation omit. But I think now this is the first his own proprietary -- stuff -- Cell yeah I was a little worried."

" Going to this may be just because based on what I saw on the trailer and then you can see in mind to sort of comic con coverage of the trailer itself as a little disappointed because. I won didn't know any of this like from filming in this augmented reality and how they're doing a performance that tossup I was like. I kept thinking was going to be bigger than just a better motion capture in any better computer graphics. I wanted to be. From what I had heard that it was going to be you know they were like why you never seen a game changing Hollis south and so I had a lot of light then. And we'll see -- candidate just looks like. A bunch of columns. That's cool but let's see has different. From the debt and got his first of the 3-D technology I'm just gonna say is are amazing mind blowing that unbelievable. Three's technology. So that's take that. Enjoy that hey -- And had to. Not -- and I cannot you know we're -- on it's amazing it's gorgeous is great movies -- as well yeah. This movie starts. And made me. Tying for gene's camera and to. No direct every site -- movie I have received from now on and wished that he could have had his hands on the Star Wars -- calls. They that technical stuff that you see going on. Is so utterly realistic but I kept finding myself going. -- did did make some of these models and what part of this is made what part does not mean I mean need to -- could not discern in my opinion. Some of the practical stuff like that day and face masks. Thumb have a little bit of like add a little bit of a distortion on it. And I think it was just the glass that he gave you this feeling of everything is a little off. But it's all real. And I Korea its hyper real. I was and completely blown away that is an I think it's probably one of the best if not the best -- movie I've ever seen. I was in it the entire time I was. Never once thought of any of the computer generated characters as anything other than real practical beings I was. Completely convinced. I had a practical thing. Live next I don't know IL -- I mean really gotten guys an instant CNN and in I mean -- There are times when the action starts and the candidates just sort of a generic -- five sings pretty how bad people wanna make money indigenous population has surprised and fight back I mean this is nothing really new there. But my god of the action sequences the whole world that you get put in is so. Flushed out and realized that you actually feel like this is a place you can go and visit and even down to like the little. Creatures and one of the things I really love with a 3-D technology. We're all the -- particles scene to scene that just like when it the first time he's in pandora and that's all these bugs. And I I felt like I want it since I was like I feel like I'm gonna get covered my nose and I don't want that. Unbelievable super fun I'm gonna see an IMAX again it was it was it one way better than I thought it would."

" Let me be clear. -- you need to see this movie could."

" You need to see this movie on the big screen and you need to see this movie in -- to you need to see this movie as soon as humanly possible. It is. If you look at the word some in the dictionary. Isn't that it is."

" A feeling that -- law I spent about the first five minutes of this movie just marveling at the 3-D you just. No absolutely marveling at it and ask for the rest of the movie. As you say who lost absolutely lost in this fantastic. We realize the vision. And what's so what can. There is not one -- can't on this movie that there isn't something spectacular. On the screen. There is no frame of this film there isn't something to look act."

" And astonishing you say it is."

" Incredible. Incredible. Imagination network the smallest little details of these bugs that. How that their wings come out and an."

" Spin around and flat and that moment is like. It's such a special moments. In the film little -- successful all throw a little fat."

" It I and maybe you shouldn't admit this but I there are moments where I'd sort of teared up a little bit not because. Of what it. The story was communicates and not because and any emotional moment in the film I was emotionally moved. -- the triumph. Of what I was seeing on the screen to just no light and movies are made -- people can't make these movies like this I'm."

" Warner got a million Saturday's -- can make this act and did an."

" There is so much care and so much. She word would palsy vision and and you don't leading up to this movie there was a lot of cynicism from a lot of people specially the gay community like us. And I wouldn't say we were cynical about it but there are some skepticism I want does have a just. Denny's is an and I and I and that's different from cynicism there's a lot of cynicism online and the like the blue and you saw a little bit and our and our -- in short this episode of that light blue. Who moved all the blue creatures. -- it -- it is so easy for a lesser filmmaker. To design this movie to be cool when it's so easy to make those creatures. -- In the quote light. We are -- and you know like -- and yet and he is so low balls need to stick with this idea of."

" Color and life and and we shouldn't go that direction and -- and I defy any person who feels that way about these America's going in."

" Just to sit through the link to this film and get to the end and not just -- with one of the most incredible cinematic experience is that -- has."

" Facial expressions that they're able to get. You're getting characters that are fully -- computer generated characters. Whose facial expressions. -- this non verbal emotional communication. Is so spot on. I was laughing now it looks at these characters were giving each other I was scared out of my pants at some of the looks are notorious or -- the Redskins went."

" I'm sorry here I'm getting hot dog from Danny and lung cancer so weird -- I mean is now. I. So I feel privilege aged 22 out we'll take you seriously every time he's had --"

" Atlanta I. -- I feel like. Upon. I don't I I -- I missed out on Star Wars I missed out you know I saw star wires. On home many allies and -- first so I didn't have done my brother Thomas Sorensen and meaner and that the -- scrolling about a year like why it. Is all my god everything's different I've never I was all I only can I've only heard the legacy of that and silent movies and where the Marines -- really cool they're not these kinds of movies you know I referenced that before that did what. This will mean guy is is is is like with an honest. 2001. Star Wars that you don't mean like in the peanut butter solution in."

" I mean you're didn't didn't -- the real ten -- yeah. Call me Lucille."

" And I Charlie Sheen -- it's out of touch I think it's a shame that. The cheese so anything you don't fall movie -- and I in the way that I felt that when -- you listening to. I song my favorite song where I'm not there's an intellectual -- happening."

" It's just pure emotion. -- happening inside when you listen to a song that's like watching this felt like it is I am just an I don't. Even -- you feel like I saw a movie I feel like I just visited picked -- yeah and I took them to spaceship to this planet."

" Why don't want to let you park you know I don't know I don't know what took place and had experience at that place I don't feel like I was watching them right. And it's three long gap and they started again now that -- I unilaterally walked into gaffe and it. Speaking of the performances you know it I can watch."

" This movie again and again and again and generally can only get -- I can only do that."

" When the performances are really special and other movies keep an -- actions seem."

" Again ready and I'm really Jerry Maguire for some reason at any time."

" And that movies on our old and our because the performances are so good that you just aren't you know Israel -- and I. Nice com or princess bride or whatever in the night there's grow up to me ray movies out there -- there are one time experiences that I will say. We will met when you watch this movie you'll never have -- I mean background and the spurs and it. Any name must watch Indiana -- in half tips I'll ask you this as I was saying that. Yeah Utah my performances him what's and in Zoe is always some guns -- I think I'm saying that's in this Maria yeah guys aren't -- dot."

" She should be nominee for Academy Award."

" And it would be such an incredible thing to add this person who -- human skin we never see yeah."

" I think she deserves and Academy Award nominee doing any denominator hurt and the effects team like. It would result -- never do it -- he's also sends nothing was an odd part my skepticism."

" At the beginning of this was always just performance capture what she should incredibly as a voice over actress -- a and I didn't set and a -- After watching mess and watching this stuff that Hussein -- now she -- looking into other guys are saying it's right now is YE."

" When people are turning up that are annoying senate since -- these are stopping and it but that's like this is a game changer because what you just said. How do you -- credits you've had the animators and I."

" I mean this is changing that they game I had three dimensions in this movie is is yeah it's James Cameron I think he's seen and being in the movies I mean. -- really had that many millions know with Blu-ray in your home gainers topped go to an analog aren't some people they've released a blu -- a month after the move was. This isn't mean when you the only way and I think we are going to have what -- now how I think everything filmmakers making me right now it."

" Secrets -- best thing when I'm walking out I kept thinking to myself. One. I can't believe that he would be that this one guy actually conceptualize. This whole thing until I did it. It can conceptualize pitching menacing figure out how to see it through I mean that's the piece is that need to come to get -- gas and yeah the audacity of of of this project. To like to see it didn't actually accomplishing its its a staggering. Achieve you have my thing now. It needs to make money I don't need."

" Like eight and you don't mind but I like color and doesn't I don't really -- what you said -- has done an -- we're -- sitting there as the as the credits -- I went. I don't want to own the Blu-ray out of that I do because the polish -- kind of like behind our."

" I thought I want to -- is immediately Gannett -- IMAX I was you know I'm on another screen it in his -- when delegates here."

" I don't we bring younger Star Wars anything like me into the blog home video. Any OK not that we have to release movies and and other -- may suddenly realized I needed Tennyson and Biscayne and yeah. Right restraints closed doctor please I like me saying I need. And the thing about that is exactly is that they don't making my unit and in my discloses all of the NASA goes allegory and and by his blue black. And the reason why this will become a class second why aren't any sort of is a classic is that it's. It's it is so. -- at nine phenomenal movie phenomenon sensors from the matrix great what can pop fiction great movie. Barack classics. They -- mark the timing which they were -- right now -- to the static that district numbers names and yet."

" All with the wind. -- grandmas yeah. Psycho. Star war is there's -- She Reagan lost star. There's a reason why pacified and there's no reason why they're called classics that it won't he didn't seem to want gridlock start now and there's been any better Dana but on the -- you can have a very similar experience to watching that story and all the way they did you know when it was made at each sheet same exact thing. You can't do that with the matrix you can't do that -- district not this is that in this James Cameron isn't very pure this purist -- that that the ways we're told it's not. Tons and on the known me. I'm on stylistic choices it's never -- classic call. On -- the best representation of that I could not agree more that I think that's so well senate Dan -- And at the risk of opening an old wound and and I don't."

" Wanna get into this discussion but it. I didn't think go on the drive home. Really screw you transformers I mean like this is it the idea -- transformers is even in the same. Means is that you know I --"

" It doesn't really I transformers and he's honest everything yeah right right but I mean that kind of bombastic and pick -- month. He's so it's sold like lowest common denominator and and he is still bigger. Insisted it you know little moment and then the cat one there one -- glad that he get it this is the playing on a level like you say level of storytelling. That is above all that it is like. She more I Conning you get."

" And Sigourney Weaver back and the guy who plays that like."

" commander guy the head of security arts math genius he is indeed a revelation you gotta what does that mean."

" He's going to be more stuff now I'm gonna season a couple things I did yeah Dinah. A bad ass at us. That's Macs go -- see this movie."

" So he's and that's when a Mormon a discussion about at a time what we're talking about video games now because there is sabotage our big video game is being released this weekend. You know sadly I think we've talked about this before that these studios in this. Economic climate how many what could could. This I'm fortunate economic climate means that all of these studios being closed end it. In -- the game and the reward for shipping game is everyone loses their job and unfortunately that's the case of this game. Pandemic studios right here in our backyard and Santa Monica. Has come out with the Saturn tour and unfortunately that was the last game that the studio -- and it's really unfortunate. Because the game itself is is a pretty big. -- again I mean it is literally a grand theft -- though. Nazi occupied France. You know I not one other time and how bad it is a it is very much the grand theft are no. Templates you've got a strong -- being driven thing but in an open world there's dry main. A lot of stories communicated while you're driving with the people means very gonna talk for it specifically you and you and you get side there's lots of side missions and there's. You know leveling up mechanics and a lot of stuff has got some cool stuff like perks that you can locked they didn't give you bonus is that content on -- ever really did. And I would say the biggest. Addition to the formula that that it brings the table is this. -- static. Everything. You when you're basically working to free the lands. Or inspire them. That resistance to the -- the the Nazis and the areas that are still on her Nazi. Control. Are in black and white so all of the color has drained from except for like red daily rental car back. Accents and stuff to order like important things that you need to see will be an inch color its its interest in the way out the windows yellow and -- And then once you wouldn't do enough dean's two quoted what inspired a populist fight back against the Nazis. The area's flood with color and you get in don't know what can. Game you play as Shawn Devlin. Irishmen. Irish road race car driver man about town. I mean this story is very Paul B. Dan. Start with you."

" You -- got about four I just I assured and you love that kind of us third Persian portion. Third Persian hi Sean at third -- and our tradition -- you think -- There's also the least. At the wells and you my friend got to see the -- Users who would pay three dollars an extra food and giving you three dollars for its."

" It's not illegal. But giving him -- business card and and I got a good -- It's just travesty. For me -- this gained -- come out. When -- was out now because if I could have come home ever seeing that me and playing this game I would have had. Tons of fun. Bomb the -- you know there's alternate name is game is is is it is only as -- as -- The timing and so well realized and it's but it and the music is awesome. I'm that. Yeah he uses this. -- Why I NN London and then I wish the whole game was Flacco had always been into -- vision of -- came out and so gorgeous and it. Manuel is not the kind of black and -- like this is the kind of black film noir. Yeah man wasn't there gorgeous black. And -- Armed. I took me a long time have fun items again you begins I'm Jeff always says I define opponents that kind of trying to find this. Fun I don't know where is. Because because it doesn't -- mechanic in the game. Magic answer is anyone and didn't does not like that climbing in assassin's creed we hold the button and what do you depress the button. It just I'm just tapping I'm just happening in my thinking really wants me to just do this until -- actually interacting with the game correctly. And I mission had assassin trees climate and that I had read a lot more fun things gained -- was that our infamous even. Flights."

" Once. This set peace missions."

" cold yes there's any end of the first acumen is exactly and set piece. And Lynne you're as an from then on it's accepting sector set piece and it's all those are a lot. Other fun and they do a great job of using all the things all the trappings of that time period yes it is not a plan right you know the Eiffel Tower -- you know you have these cool landmarks that you never really seen any game. But for right and and this kind of here's how I didn't -- kind of thing is cool mom but it just it just it doesn't feel blooming will really get. It just feels like. You know when I need them I don't know I'm some -- person shooting them from doing that I just I just doesn't feel totally. Will cohesive."

" You Alex yeah clunky is kind of how I put hey you know for me. The game itself. Aesthetically it was very anxious thing and Superfund to be in that world yeah but Bennett says you know -- you gotta go -- over an African Guatemala but simulate -- okay. Once those who -- seals my car and that's illegal. OK and you have got LA right now -- how thorough your ears in -- criminology sort of that's what it's about in this -- rebel trying to think people except I'm also stealing cars. And then -- And people -- in front your car so and you have no there's nothing part of the other girls run over civilians in this and I am. Did you know I do it and it's lots for the night shuts down I doubt yeah for me it's like. Just trying to get in front anti bush and only --"

" Why don't you might. -- I gotta do you go into near lake. Cathedral and -- mean nuns looking I'm gonna run on the leading me to business so if unusual."

" Is sold that he and I think for me you know you're right we do zeppelin stuck to it when he gets into the big set piece doubling even late. All the set you back and legs you know through much earlier in his life really. Really timed out race that is so rigged it's not even funny yeah I mean it's like why I racing and why this cars like a year ahead -- like it's a lesson it -- I was just doesn't win a race or whatever. -- But I think overall just kind of fell in just wasn't as much fun as I want to be now that said I'm not a big fan -- kind of -- this isn't really my genre. As it -- I think Dan is sort of more apt to give it you know you do and sort of more valid Edinburgh and migrant that's out for. So I think I was a little overall disappointed with the game I was sort of like you know it's it's like. If you had a good rapper but on the inside and there really wasn't any good and then from."

" Really trying to collect the latter case can't let pentagon rapper but yeah also the map system like I think I can keep on checking my Mac. Yeah it wasn't easy IA had sent an arsonist set your stepson and my MasterCard and loathing and -- a casinos entirely I was actually that's so much I -- weird. This made me realize how good assassin's creed two is -- and I -- I didn't. It's unfortunate that pandemic -- longer. Because it it would mission sort of sequel to this game is like because I think that the first assassin's creed. Is very analogous to the experience I had here it's like there's glimmers -- really cool stuff but it. The execution is rough around the edges as you guys have all said. The climbing mechanic is broken I mean the idea that -- you know in the loading screen also like -- ons. Area is on the rooftops and in ancestry until you really feel like when you're on the rooftops you're in control and right away. Not so in this cannot that the tops of buildings are really poorly designed and you can get stuck in it. It and I always felt like the best way to get around -- getting in -- car and driving. I think we ended this game is awesome it's one of the coolest -- like. That can happen even -- it now the and that happens and you see the credits and then goes right back into the game and it's like. This is the beginning. And you still play in that world and it didn't really it's all seamless terrorists like. I'm gonna explain -- liked it and there's what is the fun stuff in this image you said the that the center piece down. Story moments that really clever and -- awesome to be fighting a giant."

" Zeppelin that's on fire and -- purchase and I love that there is some leveling stopped and got his ass is up but I really love about any kind of game -- border lands. -- all his other RPG's it's like that is something I really enjoy getting into this personalized my I wish the story wasn't so Paul B -- it's very neat. Tongue -- and -- it's very boobs and casting and -- in and."

" That's fine but -- the subject matter is so rich and so. Real and so well and you know dark. They -- been really a cool all subject matter for a for a game but I won't say how cool is it dead. This year alone we have shootings where you can literally. Explore. France China and the Renaissance Italy can -- you can explore not technically -- you. You can I mean that the streets are all right and then architectures is very close super -- and we're --"

" Class action now that is awesome and -- and that is a lot of fun of the -- settings can't you won't -- game sure crimes you true -- I'm glad you're with like that was the date but that was -- I was tossing the second driving I was at what it has not -- is -- but. So yeah I mean this is this is the game not I wouldn't say I had fun --"

" But IE it's overshadowed by a lot of things that are coming out around us it's unfortunate that it's not a home run -- terrible can't just."

" I'm great now."

" We are back to talk about a little bit of the old -- vacate -- vision where to talk about Qiyue. Shows one's actually a miniseries. From AMC. A remake of the old sixties television show the prisoner when would say classic television it is it was a very big cult hits. Any candidate dollars in."

" We have stuff."

" So AM see why did you see it."

" I need a couple I decide lying when I was a teenager and her legs and not old enough appreciate yeah and it's like and not can't -- get smart -- and I mean it's like very weird like tell you know as old British Telecom -- this bouncy ball what they did bring that to bring back the balance of all of white ball of death."

" I would just just thanks so that remake of the prisoner on and a season six episode miniseries starring Ian McKellen as number two. And pageant can diesel has number 62 -- we I haven't seen Jim can be so in any recent passion of the Christ -- has done some stuff that maybe losing your body Muslim rounds actually really guys yeah. I'm sure that's called clubhouse affair and it's based I'm sorry and a couple things but yeah nothing really had -- sort of the first and I see his name up in lights are like oh interesting an engine I mean I like -- can be dozens and in really good actor. At times is there -- mountain -- not analyze -- act and any TV land and I don't think he's yes -- some whenever. So. The prisoner surrounds number six who wakes up in this strange village."

" Run by in -- number two."

" And down he's trying to be convinced that the villages -- there is there is nothing outside and that anybody who thinks there's -- downside is is insane. And then when the show. Moves on says six hourlong episodes. Dan what did you think of the prisoner."

" And short answer is I didn't like it."

" I was very confused about -- what's. I'm no longer answer is it's it's I mean there's there's definitely -- digitally hook. Moments then that. Really arrested me and as they Mike act I'm actually USA can't -- but -- it's it's it's a six hour long dream sequence. So."

" And it's it's edited that way it's shot that way."

" But there's no I mean we just hung an avatar. And take some lessons because there is no there's no murderous Melanie and there's no window into this world there was no."

" If you're looking at the pilot."

" lost you get you get a sense of."

" You know it's chaotic yeah get a sense of what what it is where it is Q -- is. And then a weird thing happens when I mean it's normal and another weird thing happens this was weird from the beginning."

" I couldn't relate are identified took anything that was happening you know and then warm weird stuff was thrown in."

" And I just could never find normal here I -- to normal today and see abnormal gotcha and it just felt very preachy and messaging and it was about."

" This thing as opposed to -- following a story in and I miss hello I just don't just tell me about his dad and just -- so them."

" Song on -- I'm not someone whether any sent out episodes that you like I think it's gonna."

" An episode I don't know web Ramirez -- okay this is and how loud that flipped me out but and then."

" I don't use it happens there Jeff what did you think."

" I -- everything dance and I think I liked it less than he did my students. Find those -- moments and I'm IE. Was really excited to watch this I had always heard about the prisoner and was really excited as -- because I kind of knew I would never really tracked down the original and watch down. And I was I didn't really know much about it I always thought it was. I don't know what you know I didn't think it was this this is not at all what I thought this was about done which is fine it would be cool if if there was no doubt about it there was some good but. I you know it out in -- my favorite actors and the plane Shakespeare than John Barton playing Shakespeare with him and was one of the seminal moments of my young actor like tonight. Love everybody does not dared to shape Patrick Stewart all the all the people there and that -- specialist my heart because of that as I always love seeing Ian McKellen and there was a lot of joy is watching him work because he's such a special actor. About -- I was baffled as to why heat and and to diesel were part of this what drew them to this. The other thing I wanna sounds to us on Twitter. I mean this sounds in the years to answer right now or maybe -- audience I wanna send us emails about because I would uninteresting. I -- one to say and made him forgetting something but I want to say I don't think I have ever liked a dream sequence. In anything you initiate characters I was drinking our. Number I mean yeah you know and and I always. Want to -- supreme secrecy over a great yeah and you're right this is a six hour -- and -- it -- get -- and just now."

" I I -- what McCain -- don't access and endorsing on this thing and especially us the prisoner on this legacy Christopher Nolan was supposed to make this I think. Before that the miniseries is listening to prisoner moving it was no big news. I think before dark."

" Night on genocide against -- I didn't end and I am I I I wanted to to seek out I had I didn't just because of time constraints I want to seek out. What the actual name like these raids on like what it was at the end of the prisoner. That was the thing that was actually going on exercises like it could be this is -- Temporary is very different yet so so. I will say I think I liked it better than you guys or or more than you guys. But not by much."

" And it was really scared I don't know -- it was -- written I think overall it's failed and in my opinion at least for me. The first. It's three or 4% probably maybe one or two episodes were really really did the last two to three episodes is -- the whole thing fell apart."

" An and I have. What happens in this. And miniseries is what I fear is going to happen and shutter island which is. I hope. Did the ending I hope that what's happening is it. This and then. That and that's basically what happened and I like I add that that is Susan -- it out what was happening I lost all interest and out because the thing that it was about in my opinion just wasn't. Wasn't an interesting and it you know it was like what was said moving vacancy I think now identity identity which is a spoiler for the movie identity but we haven't said anything -- wins an. Typical married and if it was a pretty good at tennis shoes and I. I don't -- this mess right let me ending of that movie -- I only wish it wasn't that I wanted to attend beat it almost in validates the whole miniseries in 100111. Other quick thing is that I love the."

" The idea of mini series I think it's great and I was really hoping that it's been a long time since we've mentioned this -- the lost room. Yes I'm gonna hold."

" He's never seen -- him. I imagine entire has. Yeah I lose it Giuliani worried is red -- and mineralization I would -- period of time for this on I landed I pentagon is on cnet's own Blu-ray I swear to god and I blossom again you haven't seen or have a new -- and yeah."

" So then that's an -- is so that was the prisoner and city of Washington so we weren't recovering at times."

" And he generated content but we haven't talked about it and Jeff stumbled across a little British -- well you know actually a viewer and even Jonathan and."

" A solid vote."

" Then it's simply been doing the last few weeks went with toilet is another specifically the rays on Ramadan last week -- slot cars. I'm is -- this play out when I honestly I was when I saw that episode I was right. I see how does happen so out of a -- may who is say."

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" In top gear saying he's now a bunch of different shows and he was not -- forward with Gordon Brown ones are Gordon Brown Gordon -- one point."

" Trip since that -- the -- decided today showed that."

" So Jason -- is called James Mays the toy stories and what he had it is done is basically make this a series where he. Goes back through his childhood toys memories which isn't kind of interesting to see the difference is between."

" The sort of."

" You know and Allen and analogous. With toys from my McVeigh in --"

" They have that the slot car stuff has called that was called us something electro. Electric's yet slot it's two words together. Governments don't think Speedo electric systems like that and everybody that's what they call electrical NATO has -- classes yes I think is really cool that sort of thing mechanics -- unsettling directors and ask the public cannot chairs -- and I -- yeah. So -- basically what he does he goes back through his childhood favorite toy is and then kind of tries to -- revitalize that the desire of people to to huge and enjoy these toys by putting on these giant. Very well funded stunts his and so you know they -- he DM. The -- airplane isn't the way he tried to get kids to get excited about was to try to make -- can't send Matt hatton does allow so many as a blood. Making giant life sized version of this Miami plain -- based on."

" Plastics and dry and -- So there's always a -- slot car one that we you know they they basically re created an entire actual famous race car course."

" We slot -- and -- world record too easy I was really -- and as a two point maybe miles -- how amazing we took the tracks that we didn't like last week right and they made two point eight miles on -- on and they had people chaining together segment continuing they're handing off the -- huge huge like she's like then go through a storm -- yeah."

" Because they're -- in the house -- God's -- and when -- there was an old one that broke down tonight. -- paradise they had the right."

" There's like a building that's now it like it corporate Taylor's I don't know that spot and enjoy this -- headquarters sitting up the -- elected."

" Soft data -- was -- pond and the head of floating track data go across the pond the."

" Anyway. So what Jeff come -- as I mean you're right your wedding and what did you think oh yeah. Michelle and I'm so thank you Jonathan for bringing it to our attention -- fun and there's."

" Okay. -- we're."

" I ended up. I heard about that I'm caller yeah oh yeah Michelle mom now."

" I'm glad you mentioned it in telling I'm I'm much and very much an angle file I love I love. British culture so right there it's already a win for me and I just I am -- level that -- but. This shell."

" The concept. Is awesome is already -- into it's it's you know there's an upper cut that was just playing right now I think the early hour -- there's more coming."

" And more on the new ones is an enemy can and a full size home out of laid out a home nestled Hamas yeah. So it's already I mean the concept -- are pretty cool but. What makes this show even more special than just a really cool concept is execution. Is not it's not just about pulling these stunts off which I think if there was part of America it kind of would be yeah. There is an infusion of hearts. That it makes the viewing experience so much even even more special because it's it really is about this post. Many -- childhood dreams."

" And even more than that it's a ballot can trying to get a new generation. Interest stated in these old concepts right."

" And what is so cool. Heartwarming and wonderful and a joy for me is how multi generational -- show is I -- the very first episode. James may in just these kids in this thing and that he brings his mom and dad at the end and it really -- he -- off some watching it is such."

" At the risk of getting a little mad at eight you know it's it's the same reason I think we do this show. Its its findings that kid did that still alive in all of us. And."

" Yeah and nurturing and it's it's like it's having this wonderful nostalgia for these things that gave you so much. Joy and happiness as a child and still bringing them through your adult years as well and and they show accomplishes that and such a far -- that. I think I really hope people contracted down because I knew we had didn't seek it out it Dianna -- that I know and I might be committees American movies are done."

" arm -- as much in huge gap."

" I think it's engage. -- good show and and it's worth checking out. You sent me tell you had none -- that. Yes I didn't want it I do what I do find interest thing now is the difference is between. Now and I've seen the American version of kitchen nightmares and the British version of casino owners and I thought about. When the relationship that those who have and then -- and -- seeing this time what does that. Or voters might you might get -- to say that think it's it's not. Perfectly edited I think every I think this -- would be much better and eight and a half hour or 45 minutes it's -- its its -- a full sixty minutes and each episode and -- Everything I see so many steps. And everything not everything there's something is they're really funny little moments."

" And some big moments happened there's a lot of little tiny things."

" Aren't I funny aren't that into staying and that I really would have enjoyed it a little bit more and a bridge to remember a little more -- a sense of case and I think American version piling might have gone overboard."

" On and did a little bit more packaging. And that's what I find is this kitchen nightmares or British to the American. Is it's."

" There are also very -- the British shows are very casual these given that reality shows the very he has got it looks like cheese and he's doing a lot of the work. They're not doing work and then the host is just representing that heads it's like. I mean I think some things are what are contrived a little bit the -- any -- got to show it but it does seem that it's got -- a lot of -- in China really deal with people and make something happen not producers trying to wheel and deal with and people react -- and -- inching him casual. That is. And the difference in that Americans are very dangerous thing but. A little dole. Along."

" Yeah I think I'm right in between you guys sitting right now are. Coming but you know. I'd definitely liked it a lot more than then you -- that I was sort of -- it was a little bit pacing -- but I had so much fun. Experiencing these toys and then all this great British stuff as iTunes -- abandoning the fire. But I don't think it really knocked my socks off in I mean I'm not chomping at the -- see what happens an episode and I mean his mum. So you know I think -- really thought did you add any even remote interest. And it ended."

" Some of these historical toys."

" Hey another -- but -- to do they go to death."

" That's cool so it's definitely seek out you know -- you find out -- what's a couple of episodes online and see you like it and then it did the funding has. It's actually continue to be aired right now in the UK so it's it's going to be continues on one of those things like I was a couple of episodes but I can't -- a lot of areas -- losses. NASA and he yeah."

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" So they can actually be moving around in three dimensional space we all this -- was getting how they were interacting with other objects in other people organs being in this."

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" And there is going to find this and then you can send these performances and then just exists is data and then Cameron can go in with a camera and see a very rough outline of that data and -- however when this -- thing is that -- imagine this camera system and the name of which I'm forgetting. Where -- normally wind up until this point. When you shoot. Composite is the only nation in special effects sequences when he's seen in making mountains where people on a green screen Star Wars on the -- whenever they are acting. And it against another thing it's not there -- there's a Greenspan now and that all comes in later and then and they might it was Iraq composite Election Day and then. Had been roughly on a computer and then see composite. What that might look like but doesn't really August they had to use your imagination when they you know the system."

" Where you are now he's the director is able to see hit. And like you have your LCD viewfinder and you're cheating on your email guy you're seeing that's gonna news or augmented reality -- him not because his camera he's walking through the three space. Watching the performance as it existed in this three dimensional space he was in with a camera which is just. About the -- it's just a different a different -- this this is -- that yeah."

" Let us that it already has meaning history and it's not an -- off -- you get to -- the movies and used to seeing something. That no one had no no no one has ever not exactly. -- but can it can mean. On bound for glory which was a first inning with a steady cam or art or are it's the first guy sims -- look. The road right or are its Star Wars or in the matrix or whatever right now. So I'm gonna turn you guys mean to weigh in on -- before I do. Avatar is about AM. Marina a handicapped. -- crippled. And it crippled marine his twin brother was a scientist there was going to be on this excursion in on this planet pandora. He passed away. And now this marine is going to take the place of his scientist brother to explore need biology. On this planet but is also working for you the Marines that have other intentions well they're not. I mean -- may be ex military McCarron says Brendan yeah. -- has come down. The point you military industrial complex -- it exactly so out. That is the story sort of that is directed by James Cameron you -- ended -- I didn't buy this guy. Alexander Albrecht yeah avatar. This well outside also does pretty good. I nearly any change going to be played in anything other than trading and it's also being releasing today -- you name it may have performed name names. You know -- want to be good news for both versions -- doesn't listen IMAX three. We sought in -- 899 IMAX three meter reading any so we'll be Chiming in on Macs. And it's a three is acknowledging that he's been developing. All all this time. But I think it's. It's not the same -- that we -- under three pounds he's a spy kids to use the first generation omit. But I think now this is the first his own proprietary -- stuff -- Cell yeah I was a little worried."

" Going to this may be just because based on what I saw on the trailer and then you can see in mind to sort of comic con coverage of the trailer itself as a little disappointed because. I won didn't know any of this like from filming in this augmented reality and how they're doing a performance that tossup I was like. I kept thinking was going to be bigger than just a better motion capture in any better computer graphics. I wanted to be. From what I had heard that it was going to be you know they were like why you never seen a game changing Hollis south and so I had a lot of light then. And we'll see -- candidate just looks like. A bunch of columns. That's cool but let's see has different. From the debt and got his first of the 3-D technology I'm just gonna say is are amazing mind blowing that unbelievable. Three's technology. So that's take that. Enjoy that hey -- And had to. Not -- and I cannot you know we're -- on it's amazing it's gorgeous is great movies -- as well yeah. This movie starts. And made me. Tying for gene's camera and to. No direct every site -- movie I have received from now on and wished that he could have had his hands on the Star Wars -- calls. They that technical stuff that you see going on. Is so utterly realistic but I kept finding myself going. -- did did make some of these models and what part of this is made what part does not mean I mean need to -- could not discern in my opinion. Some of the practical stuff like that day and face masks. Thumb have a little bit of like add a little bit of a distortion on it. And I think it was just the glass that he gave you this feeling of everything is a little off. But it's all real. And I Korea its hyper real. I was and completely blown away that is an I think it's probably one of the best if not the best -- movie I've ever seen. I was in it the entire time I was. Never once thought of any of the computer generated characters as anything other than real practical beings I was. Completely convinced. I had a practical thing. Live next I don't know IL -- I mean really gotten guys an instant CNN and in I mean -- There are times when the action starts and the candidates just sort of a generic -- five sings pretty how bad people wanna make money indigenous population has surprised and fight back I mean this is nothing really new there. But my god of the action sequences the whole world that you get put in is so. Flushed out and realized that you actually feel like this is a place you can go and visit and even down to like the little. Creatures and one of the things I really love with a 3-D technology. We're all the -- particles scene to scene that just like when it the first time he's in pandora and that's all these bugs. And I I felt like I want it since I was like I feel like I'm gonna get covered my nose and I don't want that. Unbelievable super fun I'm gonna see an IMAX again it was it was it one way better than I thought it would."

" Let me be clear. -- you need to see this movie could."

" You need to see this movie on the big screen and you need to see this movie in -- to you need to see this movie as soon as humanly possible. It is. If you look at the word some in the dictionary. Isn't that it is."

" A feeling that -- law I spent about the first five minutes of this movie just marveling at the 3-D you just. No absolutely marveling at it and ask for the rest of the movie. As you say who lost absolutely lost in this fantastic. We realize the vision. And what's so what can. There is not one -- can't on this movie that there isn't something spectacular. On the screen. There is no frame of this film there isn't something to look act."

" And astonishing you say it is."

" Incredible. Incredible. Imagination network the smallest little details of these bugs that. How that their wings come out and an."

" Spin around and flat and that moment is like. It's such a special moments. In the film little -- successful all throw a little fat."

" It I and maybe you shouldn't admit this but I there are moments where I'd sort of teared up a little bit not because. Of what it. The story was communicates and not because and any emotional moment in the film I was emotionally moved. -- the triumph. Of what I was seeing on the screen to just no light and movies are made -- people can't make these movies like this I'm."

" Warner got a million Saturday's -- can make this act and did an."

" There is so much care and so much. She word would palsy vision and and you don't leading up to this movie there was a lot of cynicism from a lot of people specially the gay community like us. And I wouldn't say we were cynical about it but there are some skepticism I want does have a just. Denny's is an and I and I and that's different from cynicism there's a lot of cynicism online and the like the blue and you saw a little bit and our and our -- in short this episode of that light blue. Who moved all the blue creatures. -- it -- it is so easy for a lesser filmmaker. To design this movie to be cool when it's so easy to make those creatures. -- In the quote light. We are -- and you know like -- and yet and he is so low balls need to stick with this idea of."

" Color and life and and we shouldn't go that direction and -- and I defy any person who feels that way about these America's going in."

" Just to sit through the link to this film and get to the end and not just -- with one of the most incredible cinematic experience is that -- has."

" Facial expressions that they're able to get. You're getting characters that are fully -- computer generated characters. Whose facial expressions. -- this non verbal emotional communication. Is so spot on. I was laughing now it looks at these characters were giving each other I was scared out of my pants at some of the looks are notorious or -- the Redskins went."

" I'm sorry here I'm getting hot dog from Danny and lung cancer so weird -- I mean is now. I. So I feel privilege aged 22 out we'll take you seriously every time he's had --"

" Atlanta I. -- I feel like. Upon. I don't I I -- I missed out on Star Wars I missed out you know I saw star wires. On home many allies and -- first so I didn't have done my brother Thomas Sorensen and meaner and that the -- scrolling about a year like why it. Is all my god everything's different I've never I was all I only can I've only heard the legacy of that and silent movies and where the Marines -- really cool they're not these kinds of movies you know I referenced that before that did what. This will mean guy is is is is like with an honest. 2001. Star Wars that you don't mean like in the peanut butter solution in."

" I mean you're didn't didn't -- the real ten -- yeah. Call me Lucille."

" And I Charlie Sheen -- it's out of touch I think it's a shame that. The cheese so anything you don't fall movie -- and I in the way that I felt that when -- you listening to. I song my favorite song where I'm not there's an intellectual -- happening."

" It's just pure emotion. -- happening inside when you listen to a song that's like watching this felt like it is I am just an I don't. Even -- you feel like I saw a movie I feel like I just visited picked -- yeah and I took them to spaceship to this planet."

" Why don't want to let you park you know I don't know I don't know what took place and had experience at that place I don't feel like I was watching them right. And it's three long gap and they started again now that -- I unilaterally walked into gaffe and it. Speaking of the performances you know it I can watch."

" This movie again and again and again and generally can only get -- I can only do that."

" When the performances are really special and other movies keep an -- actions seem."

" Again ready and I'm really Jerry Maguire for some reason at any time."

" And that movies on our old and our because the performances are so good that you just aren't you know Israel -- and I. Nice com or princess bride or whatever in the night there's grow up to me ray movies out there -- there are one time experiences that I will say. We will met when you watch this movie you'll never have -- I mean background and the spurs and it. Any name must watch Indiana -- in half tips I'll ask you this as I was saying that. Yeah Utah my performances him what's and in Zoe is always some guns -- I think I'm saying that's in this Maria yeah guys aren't -- dot."

" She should be nominee for Academy Award."

" And it would be such an incredible thing to add this person who -- human skin we never see yeah."

" I think she deserves and Academy Award nominee doing any denominator hurt and the effects team like. It would result -- never do it -- he's also sends nothing was an odd part my skepticism."

" At the beginning of this was always just performance capture what she should incredibly as a voice over actress -- a and I didn't set and a -- After watching mess and watching this stuff that Hussein -- now she -- looking into other guys are saying it's right now is YE."

" When people are turning up that are annoying senate since -- these are stopping and it but that's like this is a game changer because what you just said. How do you -- credits you've had the animators and I."

" I mean this is changing that they game I had three dimensions in this movie is is yeah it's James Cameron I think he's seen and being in the movies I mean. -- really had that many millions know with Blu-ray in your home gainers topped go to an analog aren't some people they've released a blu -- a month after the move was. This isn't mean when you the only way and I think we are going to have what -- now how I think everything filmmakers making me right now it."

" Secrets -- best thing when I'm walking out I kept thinking to myself. One. I can't believe that he would be that this one guy actually conceptualize. This whole thing until I did it. It can conceptualize pitching menacing figure out how to see it through I mean that's the piece is that need to come to get -- gas and yeah the audacity of of of this project. To like to see it didn't actually accomplishing its its a staggering. Achieve you have my thing now. It needs to make money I don't need."

" Like eight and you don't mind but I like color and doesn't I don't really -- what you said -- has done an -- we're -- sitting there as the as the credits -- I went. I don't want to own the Blu-ray out of that I do because the polish -- kind of like behind our."

" I thought I want to -- is immediately Gannett -- IMAX I was you know I'm on another screen it in his -- when delegates here."

" I don't we bring younger Star Wars anything like me into the blog home video. Any OK not that we have to release movies and and other -- may suddenly realized I needed Tennyson and Biscayne and yeah. Right restraints closed doctor please I like me saying I need. And the thing about that is exactly is that they don't making my unit and in my discloses all of the NASA goes allegory and and by his blue black. And the reason why this will become a class second why aren't any sort of is a classic is that it's. It's it is so. -- at nine phenomenal movie phenomenon sensors from the matrix great what can pop fiction great movie. Barack classics. They -- mark the timing which they were -- right now -- to the static that district numbers names and yet."

" All with the wind. -- grandmas yeah. Psycho. Star war is there's -- She Reagan lost star. There's a reason why pacified and there's no reason why they're called classics that it won't he didn't seem to want gridlock start now and there's been any better Dana but on the -- you can have a very similar experience to watching that story and all the way they did you know when it was made at each sheet same exact thing. You can't do that with the matrix you can't do that -- district not this is that in this James Cameron isn't very pure this purist -- that that the ways we're told it's not. Tons and on the known me. I'm on stylistic choices it's never -- classic call. On -- the best representation of that I could not agree more that I think that's so well senate Dan -- And at the risk of opening an old wound and and I don't."

" Wanna get into this discussion but it. I didn't think go on the drive home. Really screw you transformers I mean like this is it the idea -- transformers is even in the same. Means is that you know I --"

" It doesn't really I transformers and he's honest everything yeah right right but I mean that kind of bombastic and pick -- month. He's so it's sold like lowest common denominator and and he is still bigger. Insisted it you know little moment and then the cat one there one -- glad that he get it this is the playing on a level like you say level of storytelling. That is above all that it is like. She more I Conning you get."

" And Sigourney Weaver back and the guy who plays that like."

" commander guy the head of security arts math genius he is indeed a revelation you gotta what does that mean."

" He's going to be more stuff now I'm gonna season a couple things I did yeah Dinah. A bad ass at us. That's Macs go -- see this movie."

" So he's and that's when a Mormon a discussion about at a time what we're talking about video games now because there is sabotage our big video game is being released this weekend. You know sadly I think we've talked about this before that these studios in this. Economic climate how many what could could. This I'm fortunate economic climate means that all of these studios being closed end it. In -- the game and the reward for shipping game is everyone loses their job and unfortunately that's the case of this game. Pandemic studios right here in our backyard and Santa Monica. Has come out with the Saturn tour and unfortunately that was the last game that the studio -- and it's really unfortunate. Because the game itself is is a pretty big. -- again I mean it is literally a grand theft -- though. Nazi occupied France. You know I not one other time and how bad it is a it is very much the grand theft are no. Templates you've got a strong -- being driven thing but in an open world there's dry main. A lot of stories communicated while you're driving with the people means very gonna talk for it specifically you and you and you get side there's lots of side missions and there's. You know leveling up mechanics and a lot of stuff has got some cool stuff like perks that you can locked they didn't give you bonus is that content on -- ever really did. And I would say the biggest. Addition to the formula that that it brings the table is this. -- static. Everything. You when you're basically working to free the lands. Or inspire them. That resistance to the -- the the Nazis and the areas that are still on her Nazi. Control. Are in black and white so all of the color has drained from except for like red daily rental car back. Accents and stuff to order like important things that you need to see will be an inch color its its interest in the way out the windows yellow and -- And then once you wouldn't do enough dean's two quoted what inspired a populist fight back against the Nazis. The area's flood with color and you get in don't know what can. Game you play as Shawn Devlin. Irishmen. Irish road race car driver man about town. I mean this story is very Paul B. Dan. Start with you."

" You -- got about four I just I assured and you love that kind of us third Persian portion. Third Persian hi Sean at third -- and our tradition -- you think -- There's also the least. At the wells and you my friend got to see the -- Users who would pay three dollars an extra food and giving you three dollars for its."

" It's not illegal. But giving him -- business card and and I got a good -- It's just travesty. For me -- this gained -- come out. When -- was out now because if I could have come home ever seeing that me and playing this game I would have had. Tons of fun. Bomb the -- you know there's alternate name is game is is is it is only as -- as -- The timing and so well realized and it's but it and the music is awesome. I'm that. Yeah he uses this. -- Why I NN London and then I wish the whole game was Flacco had always been into -- vision of -- came out and so gorgeous and it. Manuel is not the kind of black and -- like this is the kind of black film noir. Yeah man wasn't there gorgeous black. And -- Armed. I took me a long time have fun items again you begins I'm Jeff always says I define opponents that kind of trying to find this. Fun I don't know where is. Because because it doesn't -- mechanic in the game. Magic answer is anyone and didn't does not like that climbing in assassin's creed we hold the button and what do you depress the button. It just I'm just tapping I'm just happening in my thinking really wants me to just do this until -- actually interacting with the game correctly. And I mission had assassin trees climate and that I had read a lot more fun things gained -- was that our infamous even. Flights."

" Once. This set peace missions."

" cold yes there's any end of the first acumen is exactly and set piece. And Lynne you're as an from then on it's accepting sector set piece and it's all those are a lot. Other fun and they do a great job of using all the things all the trappings of that time period yes it is not a plan right you know the Eiffel Tower -- you know you have these cool landmarks that you never really seen any game. But for right and and this kind of here's how I didn't -- kind of thing is cool mom but it just it just it doesn't feel blooming will really get. It just feels like. You know when I need them I don't know I'm some -- person shooting them from doing that I just I just doesn't feel totally. Will cohesive."

" You Alex yeah clunky is kind of how I put hey you know for me. The game itself. Aesthetically it was very anxious thing and Superfund to be in that world yeah but Bennett says you know -- you gotta go -- over an African Guatemala but simulate -- okay. Once those who -- seals my car and that's illegal. OK and you have got LA right now -- how thorough your ears in -- criminology sort of that's what it's about in this -- rebel trying to think people except I'm also stealing cars. And then -- And people -- in front your car so and you have no there's nothing part of the other girls run over civilians in this and I am. Did you know I do it and it's lots for the night shuts down I doubt yeah for me it's like. Just trying to get in front anti bush and only --"

" Why don't you might. -- I gotta do you go into near lake. Cathedral and -- mean nuns looking I'm gonna run on the leading me to business so if unusual."

" Is sold that he and I think for me you know you're right we do zeppelin stuck to it when he gets into the big set piece doubling even late. All the set you back and legs you know through much earlier in his life really. Really timed out race that is so rigged it's not even funny yeah I mean it's like why I racing and why this cars like a year ahead -- like it's a lesson it -- I was just doesn't win a race or whatever. -- But I think overall just kind of fell in just wasn't as much fun as I want to be now that said I'm not a big fan -- kind of -- this isn't really my genre. As it -- I think Dan is sort of more apt to give it you know you do and sort of more valid Edinburgh and migrant that's out for. So I think I was a little overall disappointed with the game I was sort of like you know it's it's like. If you had a good rapper but on the inside and there really wasn't any good and then from."

" Really trying to collect the latter case can't let pentagon rapper but yeah also the map system like I think I can keep on checking my Mac. Yeah it wasn't easy IA had sent an arsonist set your stepson and my MasterCard and loathing and -- a casinos entirely I was actually that's so much I -- weird. This made me realize how good assassin's creed two is -- and I -- I didn't. It's unfortunate that pandemic -- longer. Because it it would mission sort of sequel to this game is like because I think that the first assassin's creed. Is very analogous to the experience I had here it's like there's glimmers -- really cool stuff but it. The execution is rough around the edges as you guys have all said. The climbing mechanic is broken I mean the idea that -- you know in the loading screen also like -- ons. Area is on the rooftops and in ancestry until you really feel like when you're on the rooftops you're in control and right away. Not so in this cannot that the tops of buildings are really poorly designed and you can get stuck in it. It and I always felt like the best way to get around -- getting in -- car and driving. I think we ended this game is awesome it's one of the coolest -- like. That can happen even -- it now the and that happens and you see the credits and then goes right back into the game and it's like. This is the beginning. And you still play in that world and it didn't really it's all seamless terrorists like. I'm gonna explain -- liked it and there's what is the fun stuff in this image you said the that the center piece down. Story moments that really clever and -- awesome to be fighting a giant."

" Zeppelin that's on fire and -- purchase and I love that there is some leveling stopped and got his ass is up but I really love about any kind of game -- border lands. -- all his other RPG's it's like that is something I really enjoy getting into this personalized my I wish the story wasn't so Paul B -- it's very neat. Tongue -- and -- it's very boobs and casting and -- in and."

" That's fine but -- the subject matter is so rich and so. Real and so well and you know dark. They -- been really a cool all subject matter for a for a game but I won't say how cool is it dead. This year alone we have shootings where you can literally. Explore. France China and the Renaissance Italy can -- you can explore not technically -- you. You can I mean that the streets are all right and then architectures is very close super -- and we're --"

" Class action now that is awesome and -- and that is a lot of fun of the -- settings can't you won't -- game sure crimes you true -- I'm glad you're with like that was the date but that was -- I was tossing the second driving I was at what it has not -- is -- but. So yeah I mean this is this is the game not I wouldn't say I had fun --"

" But IE it's overshadowed by a lot of things that are coming out around us it's unfortunate that it's not a home run -- terrible can't just."

" I'm great now."

" We are back to talk about a little bit of the old -- vacate -- vision where to talk about Qiyue. Shows one's actually a miniseries. From AMC. A remake of the old sixties television show the prisoner when would say classic television it is it was a very big cult hits. Any candidate dollars in."

" We have stuff."

" So AM see why did you see it."

" I need a couple I decide lying when I was a teenager and her legs and not old enough appreciate yeah and it's like and not can't -- get smart -- and I mean it's like very weird like tell you know as old British Telecom -- this bouncy ball what they did bring that to bring back the balance of all of white ball of death."

" I would just just thanks so that remake of the prisoner on and a season six episode miniseries starring Ian McKellen as number two. And pageant can diesel has number 62 -- we I haven't seen Jim can be so in any recent passion of the Christ -- has done some stuff that maybe losing your body Muslim rounds actually really guys yeah. I'm sure that's called clubhouse affair and it's based I'm sorry and a couple things but yeah nothing really had -- sort of the first and I see his name up in lights are like oh interesting an engine I mean I like -- can be dozens and in really good actor. At times is there -- mountain -- not analyze -- act and any TV land and I don't think he's yes -- some whenever. So. The prisoner surrounds number six who wakes up in this strange village."

" Run by in -- number two."

" And down he's trying to be convinced that the villages -- there is there is nothing outside and that anybody who thinks there's -- downside is is insane. And then when the show. Moves on says six hourlong episodes. Dan what did you think of the prisoner."

" And short answer is I didn't like it."

" I was very confused about -- what's. I'm no longer answer is it's it's I mean there's there's definitely -- digitally hook. Moments then that. Really arrested me and as they Mike act I'm actually USA can't -- but -- it's it's it's a six hour long dream sequence. So."

" And it's it's edited that way it's shot that way."

" But there's no I mean we just hung an avatar. And take some lessons because there is no there's no murderous Melanie and there's no window into this world there was no."

" If you're looking at the pilot."

" lost you get you get a sense of."

" You know it's chaotic yeah get a sense of what what it is where it is Q -- is. And then a weird thing happens when I mean it's normal and another weird thing happens this was weird from the beginning."

" I couldn't relate are identified took anything that was happening you know and then warm weird stuff was thrown in."

" And I just could never find normal here I -- to normal today and see abnormal gotcha and it just felt very preachy and messaging and it was about."

" This thing as opposed to -- following a story in and I miss hello I just don't just tell me about his dad and just -- so them."

" Song on -- I'm not someone whether any sent out episodes that you like I think it's gonna."

" An episode I don't know web Ramirez -- okay this is and how loud that flipped me out but and then."

" I don't use it happens there Jeff what did you think."

" I -- everything dance and I think I liked it less than he did my students. Find those -- moments and I'm IE. Was really excited to watch this I had always heard about the prisoner and was really excited as -- because I kind of knew I would never really tracked down the original and watch down. And I was I didn't really know much about it I always thought it was. I don't know what you know I didn't think it was this this is not at all what I thought this was about done which is fine it would be cool if if there was no doubt about it there was some good but. I you know it out in -- my favorite actors and the plane Shakespeare than John Barton playing Shakespeare with him and was one of the seminal moments of my young actor like tonight. Love everybody does not dared to shape Patrick Stewart all the all the people there and that -- specialist my heart because of that as I always love seeing Ian McKellen and there was a lot of joy is watching him work because he's such a special actor. About -- I was baffled as to why heat and and to diesel were part of this what drew them to this. The other thing I wanna sounds to us on Twitter. I mean this sounds in the years to answer right now or maybe -- audience I wanna send us emails about because I would uninteresting. I -- one to say and made him forgetting something but I want to say I don't think I have ever liked a dream sequence. In anything you initiate characters I was drinking our. Number I mean yeah you know and and I always. Want to -- supreme secrecy over a great yeah and you're right this is a six hour -- and -- it -- get -- and just now."

" I I -- what McCain -- don't access and endorsing on this thing and especially us the prisoner on this legacy Christopher Nolan was supposed to make this I think. Before that the miniseries is listening to prisoner moving it was no big news. I think before dark."

" Night on genocide against -- I didn't end and I am I I I wanted to to seek out I had I didn't just because of time constraints I want to seek out. What the actual name like these raids on like what it was at the end of the prisoner. That was the thing that was actually going on exercises like it could be this is -- Temporary is very different yet so so. I will say I think I liked it better than you guys or or more than you guys. But not by much."

" And it was really scared I don't know -- it was -- written I think overall it's failed and in my opinion at least for me. The first. It's three or 4% probably maybe one or two episodes were really really did the last two to three episodes is -- the whole thing fell apart."

" An and I have. What happens in this. And miniseries is what I fear is going to happen and shutter island which is. I hope. Did the ending I hope that what's happening is it. This and then. That and that's basically what happened and I like I add that that is Susan -- it out what was happening I lost all interest and out because the thing that it was about in my opinion just wasn't. Wasn't an interesting and it you know it was like what was said moving vacancy I think now identity identity which is a spoiler for the movie identity but we haven't said anything -- wins an. Typical married and if it was a pretty good at tennis shoes and I. I don't -- this mess right let me ending of that movie -- I only wish it wasn't that I wanted to attend beat it almost in validates the whole miniseries in 100111. Other quick thing is that I love the."

" The idea of mini series I think it's great and I was really hoping that it's been a long time since we've mentioned this -- the lost room. Yes I'm gonna hold."

" He's never seen -- him. I imagine entire has. Yeah I lose it Giuliani worried is red -- and mineralization I would -- period of time for this on I landed I pentagon is on cnet's own Blu-ray I swear to god and I blossom again you haven't seen or have a new -- and yeah."

" So then that's an -- is so that was the prisoner and city of Washington so we weren't recovering at times."

" And he generated content but we haven't talked about it and Jeff stumbled across a little British -- well you know actually a viewer and even Jonathan and."

" A solid vote."

" Then it's simply been doing the last few weeks went with toilet is another specifically the rays on Ramadan last week -- slot cars. I'm is -- this play out when I honestly I was when I saw that episode I was right. I see how does happen so out of a -- may who is say."

" And."

" what they call it -- present terror British present a British present terror."

" Yeah."

" In top gear saying he's now a bunch of different shows and he was not -- forward with Gordon Brown ones are Gordon Brown Gordon -- one point."

" Trip since that -- the -- decided today showed that."

" So Jason -- is called James Mays the toy stories and what he had it is done is basically make this a series where he. Goes back through his childhood toys memories which isn't kind of interesting to see the difference is between."

" The sort of."

" You know and Allen and analogous. With toys from my McVeigh in --"

" They have that the slot car stuff has called that was called us something electro. Electric's yet slot it's two words together. Governments don't think Speedo electric systems like that and everybody that's what they call electrical NATO has -- classes yes I think is really cool that sort of thing mechanics -- unsettling directors and ask the public cannot chairs -- and I -- yeah. So -- basically what he does he goes back through his childhood favorite toy is and then kind of tries to -- revitalize that the desire of people to to huge and enjoy these toys by putting on these giant. Very well funded stunts his and so you know they -- he DM. The -- airplane isn't the way he tried to get kids to get excited about was to try to make -- can't send Matt hatton does allow so many as a blood. Making giant life sized version of this Miami plain -- based on."

" Plastics and dry and -- So there's always a -- slot car one that we you know they they basically re created an entire actual famous race car course."

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" I'm glad you mentioned it in telling I'm I'm much and very much an angle file I love I love. British culture so right there it's already a win for me and I just I am -- level that -- but. This shell."

" The concept. Is awesome is already -- into it's it's you know there's an upper cut that was just playing right now I think the early hour -- there's more coming."

" And more on the new ones is an enemy can and a full size home out of laid out a home nestled Hamas yeah. So it's already I mean the concept -- are pretty cool but. What makes this show even more special than just a really cool concept is execution. Is not it's not just about pulling these stunts off which I think if there was part of America it kind of would be yeah. There is an infusion of hearts. That it makes the viewing experience so much even even more special because it's it really is about this post. Many -- childhood dreams."

" And even more than that it's a ballot can trying to get a new generation. Interest stated in these old concepts right."

" And what is so cool. Heartwarming and wonderful and a joy for me is how multi generational -- show is I -- the very first episode. James may in just these kids in this thing and that he brings his mom and dad at the end and it really -- he -- off some watching it is such."

" At the risk of getting a little mad at eight you know it's it's the same reason I think we do this show. Its its findings that kid did that still alive in all of us. And."

" Yeah and nurturing and it's it's like it's having this wonderful nostalgia for these things that gave you so much. Joy and happiness as a child and still bringing them through your adult years as well and and they show accomplishes that and such a far -- that. I think I really hope people contracted down because I knew we had didn't seek it out it Dianna -- that I know and I might be committees American movies are done."

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" And some big moments happened there's a lot of little tiny things."

" Aren't I funny aren't that into staying and that I really would have enjoyed it a little bit more and a bridge to remember a little more -- a sense of case and I think American version piling might have gone overboard."

" On and did a little bit more packaging. And that's what I find is this kitchen nightmares or British to the American. Is it's."

" There are also very -- the British shows are very casual these given that reality shows the very he has got it looks like cheese and he's doing a lot of the work. They're not doing work and then the host is just representing that heads it's like. I mean I think some things are what are contrived a little bit the -- any -- got to show it but it does seem that it's got -- a lot of -- in China really deal with people and make something happen not producers trying to wheel and deal with and people react -- and -- inching him casual. That is. And the difference in that Americans are very dangerous thing but. A little dole. Along."

" Yeah I think I'm right in between you guys sitting right now are. Coming but you know. I'd definitely liked it a lot more than then you -- that I was sort of -- it was a little bit pacing -- but I had so much fun. Experiencing these toys and then all this great British stuff as iTunes -- abandoning the fire. But I don't think it really knocked my socks off in I mean I'm not chomping at the -- see what happens an episode and I mean his mum. So you know I think -- really thought did you add any even remote interest. And it ended."

" Some of these historical toys."

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" That's cool so it's definitely seek out you know -- you find out -- what's a couple of episodes online and see you like it and then it did the funding has. It's actually continue to be aired right now in the UK so it's it's going to be continues on one of those things like I was a couple of episodes but I can't -- a lot of areas -- losses. NASA and he yeah."

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Episode 143 - Game Changer - James Cameron's Avatar, The Saboteur, The Prisoner, and James May's Toy Stories

Can James Cameron's Avatar possibly transcend the hype? Does The Saboteur out-GTA GTA IV? Is The Prisoner remake worth watching? The BBC delivers Toy Stories in time for the Holidays.

Episode 143: Gamechanger

EDIT:
Just finished watching the episode. As usual, found it rather enjoyable; but this one also provoke quite some thought!

When Jeff and Alex reviewed Avatar all I heard was how great the tech aspects were. Which may have been interesting, but sounded no different from how one would describe both Final Fantasy movies: great graphics, poor storytelling. Sure, maybe they could map out the facial muscles of an actor and animate over that to create a more "believable" CG-alien being. But Wall-E had none of that while still being able to portray human emotions rather adeptly. Heck, the mini-cam setup weirdly brought to mind an image of Jigsaw's reverse bear trap... Dan's review of the movie was what broke my skepticism for this flick a little. I'll probably find time to watch this movie in 3D and see for myself if it was really that good.

One thing that did catch my attention in the movie's segment was how James Cameron was directing scenes with a view-finder with pre-rendered CG scenes. Considering how often actors nowadays have to imagine CG scenes they have to act in, say running away from a big ugly beasty, where not too long ago there'd be an animatronic prop for them to interact with, it makes me wonder when will actors be immersed in some form of 3D-rendered background to act in.

As for Saboteur, it's really a great big shame that the game wasn't outstanding. I'm still ticked at EA being the total jackass for closing Pandemic just before Thanksgiving. If that's not their CEO giving the American one-finger salute I don't know what is.

PS: Any chance of showing off that Avatar background?

bjkrautk
3 months ago
In reply to ojimaru:
If that's not their CEO giving the American one-finger salute I don't know what is.


Are there other, international versions of the one-finger salute?

Message received, I'm going to see Avatar over the weekend....in 3D.
As a glasses-wearer, I'm always concerned with 3D stuff. Red/Blue never worked for me like I thought it should...and I've always wondered if my real glasses were part of the problem. That said, I had to make a point to not watch the screen, so I could be surprised by as much of the world as I can be. Thank you for being non-spoilery.


Still have the Prisoner mini-series on my TiVo backlog, so the TV review was a bit of a disappointment.
Frisby
3 months ago
In reply to bjkrautk:
Are there other, international versions of the one-finger salute?


Yeah there's the british 2 finger salute (peace sign reversed) and i believe the thumbs up and okay sign are both considered rude in certain cultures.

I had heard great things about Avatar but Dan, Alex & Jeff's reviews are the ones I actually give credit to. I will be going to see this movie ASAP, I just hope the local IMAX which just opened nearby is showing it in 3D.

Great episode as always.
kinglewie2152uk
3 months ago
Great episode guys! Just booked my ticket for Avatar at the Bradford IMAX in the UK as a result....can't wait! Move over Star Wars....with respect!

Cheers and Merry Christmas all!
TNVWBOY
3 months ago

Thank you for being spoiler free

Thanks for making your review spoiler free. I've been careful to avoid spoilers or too much info about Avatar, though that's been rather difficult. I'm happy to hear the 3D is good though. I'll definitely be seeing it in 3D.
CriPPleR_HD
3 months ago
Yea I had my doubts but after so many good reviews I will be seeing Avatar on day one!
Monkeyspit
3 months ago

The Prisoner, and re-visioning classics

It's a shame, particularly if you're a declared Anglophile, to have not seen the original Prisoner series. Some of my friends have seen the new series (I have not), and hated it. The same people LOVED the original Prisoner. Is that a suitable metric to go by? It's possible there is a bias (à la TOS Trek vs TNG etc.), but I doubt it. I'm easily the most conservative/critical member of our little group when it comes to remakes.

The Prisoner: TOS worked, in good measure, because of the excellent performance of its star, Patrick McGoohan. James Caviezel is a fine actor, but I would not have cast him as #6.

What are your thoughts about attempts to remake classic TV series and films; in particular, when they attempt a 'revision' the original. When, if ever, is it permissible to alter the premise and canon of a classic TV or movie franchise? Is messing with a classic just an ego trip, or a failure to understand or develop the original concept on its own terms? Or is it, as revisionists often claim, an attempt to breath new life into a classic?
Jon F
3 months ago
Man, what a great episode. I can't decide if I'm more excited to see Avatar or the next TRS.
mudboy
3 months ago

Toy Stories

Agree w/ Jeff on James May's Toy Stories. I watch it with my kids, and they love it.

One thing to remember about the BBC is that it is Public Television. The pace is slower because they are not trying to keep your eyeballs on the TV in order to make you stick around for commercials, there aren't any. It just leads to a different style of show, slower paced, but with more content.

If you like this show, the other James May shows are pretty good as well. (20th Century, Big Ideas, Big Wine Adventure, and Drink to Britain)

One thing that I've been watching more of lately are the BBC quiz shows such as QI (hosted by Stephen Fry). The 7th Season is currently airing. Slightly related to QI is Alan Davies' series Jonathan Creek, which is a murder mystery show, from the 90's.
icu
3 months ago
In reply to TNVWBOY:
Thanks for making your review spoiler free. I've been careful to avoid spoilers or too much info about Avatar, though that's been rather difficult. I'm happy to hear the 3D is good though. I'll definitely be seeing it in 3D.


Agreed, I was scared to watch but TRS > Avatar so I had to watch.
Well, I wasn't sure if I was going to bother seeing it. I tend to shun that which is overly hyped and "popular", but good stuff is good stuff and I cannot think the boys would steer me wrong. I will have to see it.

I figure it will be in theaters for a while so I'll wait till it calms down a bit and try to see it in IMAX 3D.
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