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Twick - Mirror's Edge, Left 4 Dead, Need for Speed: Undercover, Special, JCVD

Tuesday, November 25th, 2008 – running time 56:33
Is Mirror's Edge worth a leap of faith? Which one of us will be Left 4 Dead? The new Need for Speed: just Burnout for babies? Is Special special? Should u c JCVD?

This week in Movies:

Alex, Dan and Jeff take a look at 2 movies this week that aren't the big blockbusters. The first is Special, a super-hero movie unlike any other.

The second is the Jean-Claude Van Damme's smei-autobiographical drama, JCVD.

Could both these movies be worthwhile alternatives to Twilight?

This week in Video Games:

Mirror's Edge does a rare thing in video gaming these days: it tries something new. Alex, Dan, and Jeff take on this first-person parkour simulator to see if the concept actually works.

The long running Need for Speed series continues this fall with Need for Speed: Undercover, borrowing several concepts from Criterion's Burnout Paradise. Is it a solid alternative, or sad imitation?

Plus:

The newest game from Valve is a 4-player co-operative shooter set during the Zombie Apocalypse. Watch the 4 TRS guys give it a go, and see who gets Left 4 Dead

Make your own TRS themed Little Big Planet level and you could have it featured on an upcoming episode!

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Highlights
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" Your I am this is the story of what would happen if I ever dropped passes it's. Which is why I stay away from homelessness yeah I -- I adore this movie adore it it is they can make so much out of so little. And then it's all because they are clever. And the way we are told things. Is very inventive and clever and they need a lot to the imagination which is awesome I think this movie is. And it occurred to me -- That it's sort of a mash -- of all of Christopher -- movies. You know you have the unreliable narrator. You have the superhero kind of clean the streets guy and you have sort of the insomnia of like. What's below it. What imagined a -- yes we can imagine. There's real or not help now it's it's it's a beautiful movie I I had. I know I know how I. I loved every part of it and it there's so many great laugh out loud moments because of how things are revealed to us and what we see and what we don't see. I think my ground force performance is top -- I'm not usually a huge fan of his but he. Knocked out of the park here and I urge everybody to see this and yeah I loved it."

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" Sites with the press and media you know his drug addictions and all the stuff that I've learned about him -- sort of made him go and from."

" This guy who's a bankable action star in the eighties to somebody who sort of I hate to -- a joke but you know just sort of this like caricature of what the -- longer ends and Stephens and dolls and a whole mix. I was a little confused as to what this movie was about -- hard for me to understand what was real and what was not real. As far as I mean I assume that this thing in his post office didn't occur to them as it was happening out like is this something that I just didn't -- and I know I know that now but."

" Like at this time it was a little confusing and -- was."

" And he does play with the talking to the audience is sort of expanding about his feelings with his career. How it's gone and what and how his life has changes on the debt and to be honest I actually thought he was amazing and it I mean there were moments like the moment in the cab with a lady that was like. I truly felt for the guy where I was like it made me think of John what an imminent totally different way would I do not expect -- just -- a fun look at how shady is like says yeah I mean yes."

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" Something about Venice is sort of the truth and I can't live our container containing my mom. Yes I am so sick first Christian is now. Even fun that you can kind of haven't done like -- until I you know -- kmart's amazing but. I'm sick of generous sick and that's really all in January. Mom and dad and I'm still -- Doing what you're doing this anymore and I let those sick right I'm sick like I'm totally in agony. So it's amazing that you can make this game. That takes only entice people -- that seemed to gain in most people want to be playing -- and complete the difference. I think thinking about shooting a person and senate advantage team and our trophy as the there's many flaws in this game. But I'm I -- what's amazing is when we saw the trailer we've got you -- third person to the cool thing about hardcore he's studying this stuff taking place. On the and -- and was amazing that it wasn't -- third person in. I felt it may need what's great about watching part court is how these big trade. Transgression -- dream didn't transition and just. Flow through obstacles seamlessly and artful way well now they're playing this game I think that. If you what that must feel like you've never played any sort of the sport where yeah it's false clicks and when you do is say the bats well answers his -- in the zone and then. And that's the feeling. Yeah this game gives you that feeling. There's went outside and just brings us up a lot but let's think with your Groundhog Day effect where a lot of things you dial -- they gain I don't -- I have to repeat. This certainly I can see this didn't happen you know being hit and not a fun thing for people I loved it because I think I've seen as a as a good sucked. You -- you're running into -- systems and I mission you like to and plus bonus. That yes absolutely. In this particular even. -- regret that thought -- border where he died during that mission ever let like a Grand Theft Auto IV and that's. Knowing it. Bins they do they exhilaration. That comes from two things one if you don't die I. You're going from the big public split second decisions it just feels amazing to me. The other thing is if you do dial lot and you learn what you have to do and eventually when you knowing that you don't want to -- that. And then that adrenaline that you -- and in trying to applause -- is great but there's puzzle in this game and shocked to learn how to traverse that was the word. I'm traverse the -- Is amazing. -- combat. This is cool at first but when you play any game in this where you're trying to not shoot anyone. It gets very when nobody and I found myself just -- the -- buttons governor again couple after a lot of the Clinton that would once meeting his before been around jump into the fight long guidebook around W you can't just. Approach people attack on -- when you do that. I see that's kind of have fun but I bet I think I would have a lot more fun playing the game if I were shooting people. At least towards the end of the -- I can tell you I answered yeah. I didn't say also that graphically amazing and -- moments where I first a window -- and it does -- dusty thumb prints on the window -- Clean lines -- just. Perfect for this Mary I. She bright colors faster -- malls on the -- gets a little redundant by these it seems necessary for this kind of gain a little bit of anti -- seem like anything we talk about clean lines at about -- we -- played on the PS3 I should say ancillary you know we don't -- and try to -- industrial park is one more thing I want to say. Why is I I realized what my favorite -- this doesn't he's and that I think. It's what all great teams do. In I didn't think is a great game with many plots is. I've ending a big game shouldn't be you have recruited. Power and you feel the most more powerful than you've ever out at the end of the -- branch whereas in this game and many other games. Com. Immediate and becomes the most difficult challenge running game and I feel like I think -- perhaps like yourself in another instance tonight in the data bank area. Yeah -- and then it is really easy can get. That's right absolutely that's just like whatever yeah -- that's what historians and all of -- was terrible in this game about how we cut scenes aesthetically this file was part of the story -- each ranks yeah totally relaxed. It's -- good written by -- to daughter. Well engineers -- But I might well so what do you guys Arizona Senator -- like yeah let -- get more power yeah -- doesn't just being more difficult share."

" I was sorely disappointed by the skin so Ortiz -- at like Dan and Jeff I was. Super. Excited for this game after playing 83 like. This is going to be such an amazing game. Day really dislike this -- there there are few things that it doesn't well. Which I'll I'll talk about real president does not total slam fast. The heat really nails the feeling of it's personal momentum. Thank you definitely feel like you are. Running as you do things correctly you gain more speed and there's a whole lot of satisfaction. In the I don't even know I'm going too fast I'm going too fast there's."

" A law I don't know it blew -- out of the wall I'm still got my momentum that that was definitely satisfying and there were moments. Utter. Salute joy. Running through his hands and those moments were few and privately. And they were marred by it and repeated. Frustrating. Deaths. To the point oh I don't know where I'm supposed to go. As I'm running so fast I jumped just happen each of the last. And I -- not getting around and do this whole momentum and over again. That got so old with so fast is not and funny yes there are many different paths to get to your goal however each half. -- only able to be done -- neutral -- this way -- though there are fifteen has. Once you're on a pack that you like my -- that tells me I need to jump off the singing grab that pole. That is such a -- fine tune skilled job. That when you're rushing up to you don't even really know me a lot of time it's like twice he read platform and I'm running. I jump off a bit and what -- the areas like glue that's the bull crap doctor -- that's not fun after allow for me which is there's when he does and did the rest of it was fun. -- comment this is a visa worst combat I had ever ever experienced in the next generation platform. Is the rope can I didn't -- it easy on an eighty justice that you are literally run day. And you hear hey -- proven to shut today Nancy -- you know the guys are big -- video I guess they're in his -- over here run run run. And then there was a moment. Which is sort of where I got done with the game -- they -- you never know you have to fight these guys to visit I was like I get it. I'm their runaway I what I can't solve the puzzle how to get away they'll shoot me kill me I'll start again that is that was the way actually this game. And so there was a moment where it was like. No you have to bite him then it just looks like AS but he showed me how horrible comments and was because it was like. Okay I don't -- runup to this guy hit. The triangle at the right moment and it adds up running up and I'm even doing the triangle -- I shot placement not the -- there's nothing fun about that so for me I got to a point where. Do -- reward of that cool running feeling what I love so much was still overshadowed by this horrible comments isn't and the horrible. -- one way to do it correctly you're."

" I'm inclined to agree more news than Dan unfortunately I think this game is so close to greatness so. Close it is such a great idea and the mechanics is so. Wonderful. That you're right when you get when when it works out dated some blind date is the most exhilarating I -- pop pop popular gift for mom but I think. There shouldn't be people with guns in this condition any enemies I in this scene is a platform arm so I don't mind -- like dying a budget times in the class performing arts because that's -- Palmer -- in unison jumping di Mario that it. Corner every platform again ever made you don't get there you fall along when your dad spread. That's and there are a lot of this game is. Is -- who what when you're indoors -- I'm as being less fun because it's just a first person platform which doesn't really work when you're outdoors on rooftops finding picking patterns. Amazing. But. The -- to combat work I think in this game is that makes no sense to me that these guys are. Shooting point blank at an unarmed young girl who. If you did you choose to be. Unarmed in this game and approach them they should change their tactics until I yeah they're evil I did you know right but I think. -- they I had been slaughtered up to decided oh she has not picked up a gun so I'm going to try to take her down in a way that is non lethal. How much cooler and it would've felt dynamic as being sort of major urge our choice we both made to not shoot. Much more impact full because it affects the enemies to rent and I felt so much like -- a lot of times I didn't want to shoot like hundreds of -- like I don't I don't want to use this because. It's slows me down and I thought that was wonderful the other thing is. May I just know where to go moment moments. You know a lot of you really fun yeah you let your useless yeah I -- I don't direction it from a different. There's a lot of hot buildup to this game with the fact that there are these giant random objects in the world that show you right where a guy who ran a lot of people were like oh. Well its games for babies because gonna show me exactly -- ago. I was it was more red. I think that nobody that you mentioned on the PS3. -- your head in the direction we need to go -- which is completely useless when -- anywhere that that you can't have a visual. Look at where you need to -- hand but -- as a really cool thing when you click down. These the stick. Each draws a little line. Yeah I think this game and a mechanic where he pushed open and the longer you put it down the more red -- appears in the universe you can plot your happening over guns and you go four and a quarter million it would lose only eight it was so much time there's several change when you know where it."

" Don't you like I had yeah. And then even failing on that it's my I get is my all right because I didn't do exactly what you did you win leaves the usual way that I had. I'll think about it figuring it out there's a lot of that you're -- thing you didn't have the rooftops and safe when I had no I think general direction were running out. I then have to figure out how to jurors that you know it's eligible but then you you you're you're treating -- what I mean hold -- for a longer period of time you're trading time. Four to sort of debt worm Dowling and then it's I don't think I was like. -- It came as it takes those things in the consideration I think there's something really special -- estate to restoration just scored the music was awesome and a great pairing and yeah thank you. -- The look at the cut designs and never knew what the words anymore is that we have an -- we have to garner critical thing. And time -- and I actually say there's such replay ability in this game the time travel is fun it's like playing a racing game that's like just playing a race."

" Games we -- Without the need for speed undercover a long running need for speed us franchise. But of the games retirement this this -- performing yank. And this one is more of that Arcadia versions seems like the need for speed series fluctuates between more seem kind of but and add parts to your car to are Katie drive fast -- watch after the cops this is definitely more of that -- an undercover. Agent trying to infiltrate your way into the street racing crime syndicate and so you have to avoid the cops because they don't know you're undercover. And beat them races so that you -- street cred. It's in a -- giant were all like -- out action a lot of games very similar -- and it says one cohesive universe. Alex yes. -- tell me about tell your screen is a need for speed underground which we played on 36 --"

" Yeah yeah do you enjoy his hand more than I would on and the surprising thing we would visit the three acts taxi and but one of the things it was the most like all we were excited about what these. Live action -- scenes. We all men like old school people should be doing is -- it and that was the worst part of the game for me I was sort of surprised because I thought. When you don't we let the game plan but -- yeah he's really cool season and it's a giant they were really that. I really enjoyed that he play I don't know why blame. I really help latest street racer yeah and I -- the open world nest and then to being able to just like start to -- any time when it would like dean he ran around a little bit just kind of feel how the car works and United I'm ready -- Bloomberg and the way they started the race is."

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" To actively go to to a place in order for me to do that race yes and with this kind of like the fact that there were like. If you want to reasons arteries and then exit the race starts and it's cool little like action need look no we guys didn't get any."

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" It's interesting that because I I loved burnout paradise. But really likes this game also loved -- and I I was there going -- man you know I usually don't like racing games but I actually -- do this and that is really wasn't well let me finish I and I might only -- him. I mean it's all watching watching all -- top gear that I can do and how will find in the right lines that. And then you know I'd talk to some of my my friends who actually are good racing game players in light racing games and like -- kids for -- Yeah like winning raising it up and -- and as much I loved her compared guys. This game is it takes away the frustrations of burnout paradise because as spectacular as the crashes aren't -- This game takes away crashes so you're never completely out of the race now you crash and burn out if you crash once twice. You know is definitely out. It is you're screwed you can't win but this -- the usual blue planet I don't. And it hit and also the other frustration from burnout paradise was the fact that I didn't know how to get to the end of the race and this game that takes away that's so as much as it is. Brown for meetings. It how hat so easy it is easy OJ I would -- I mean challenge I was mad that might and might Xbox had -- that wanted to play but. And I think I get -- and I didn't it I just I don't you know I'm not a racing game -- so when I can play want to needs to be a good attitude raising. Everything game for not raising these people."

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" Your I am this is the story of what would happen if I ever dropped passes it's. Which is why I stay away from homelessness yeah I -- I adore this movie adore it it is they can make so much out of so little. And then it's all because they are clever. And the way we are told things. Is very inventive and clever and they need a lot to the imagination which is awesome I think this movie is. And it occurred to me -- That it's sort of a mash -- of all of Christopher -- movies. You know you have the unreliable narrator. You have the superhero kind of clean the streets guy and you have sort of the insomnia of like. What's below it. What imagined a -- yes we can imagine. There's real or not help now it's it's it's a beautiful movie I I had. I know I know how I. I loved every part of it and it there's so many great laugh out loud moments because of how things are revealed to us and what we see and what we don't see. I think my ground force performance is top -- I'm not usually a huge fan of his but he. Knocked out of the park here and I urge everybody to see this and yeah I loved it."

" Yeah I I also really enjoyed the movie I don't know that went to a low place because I thought they were. Parts that I was like many not so much in love with -- those parts here now."

" The ending like right and there's a moment."

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" And the he's character felt so alive in in the space. That is really hard not to be drawn in by the character and the and what's happening and honestly some of the funniest moments I've seen in movies I mean Andy's show subtle ways like the first saying walks through -- to show us friends it was like. I could not stop laughing and -- agitation --"

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" We we stayed secure after words and I were I don't firm believer in just shut up and do day."

" And it was really cool to see these guys here these guys and we just sat down and said screw it let's make a movie this summer and they did and this is it that was really."

" I think it's funny that Alex makes his living with talking. This is from believers doesn't do."

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" I'm thinking that I'm thinking out of the ending that becomes more a statement and a message then. How. And they mean -- Palin's and his voice so results so that stuff was that wasn't quite as caller -- as you -- we're talking about the subtlety of -- happening imagination. So wonderful but there's something about it really you sort of root for your -- I think hello hello I'm expressing his. Is it feels like. A movie that people should seek out because you want to support that and it is -- mineral -- but they mentioned it's also on Comcast on the -- here downcast he can find it on -- on -- And definitely worth checking out -- So. Also another one that you have to seek out the finding is GC GD. There's another one that trailer is renowned for awhile evolving very excited about it and we've all grown up when John -- and damage here is this movie. To Dubai. I mean that I'm gonna miss them terribly and Sharma brook elementary. And I don't producers. Come. It's a French on my believe. Arts French language on the Imus made him -- director finally gotten mine geography right. Trekking from -- is Andre anywhere but. But it out. -- Himself. Eyes -- lemon and -- didn't. In the basically is involved in a bank heist. -- don't is out of order and plays with time men who does think to tell you this story of this. Bank heist that Mandan is involved in com. There's moments autobiography. Is seeing -- and fiction and mixed together. What do you think your phone Jason dean."

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" It was so much fun and I think it has a lot to do with the fact that. One I'm a huge job hunting and -- fan from way back here -- I mean. The site -- of what's what's the kick boxing on us and -- and that's sort of grown ups through his rise and fall his you know us."

" Sites with the press and media you know his drug addictions and all the stuff that I've learned about him -- sort of made him go and from."

" This guy who's a bankable action star in the eighties to somebody who sort of I hate to -- a joke but you know just sort of this like caricature of what the -- longer ends and Stephens and dolls and a whole mix. I was a little confused as to what this movie was about -- hard for me to understand what was real and what was not real. As far as I mean I assume that this thing in his post office didn't occur to them as it was happening out like is this something that I just didn't -- and I know I know that now but."

" Like at this time it was a little confusing and -- was."

" And he does play with the talking to the audience is sort of expanding about his feelings with his career. How it's gone and what and how his life has changes on the debt and to be honest I actually thought he was amazing and it I mean there were moments like the moment in the cab with a lady that was like. I truly felt for the guy where I was like it made me think of John what an imminent totally different way would I do not expect -- just -- a fun look at how shady is like says yeah I mean yes."

" So I was really impresses an NB -- maybe there's definitely stuff that was like."

" Not not a 100% -- here and there but I thought it was shot really well some of the shots like these long. One taste shots to network under an unbelievably new thing in. Steady unless."

" I'm glad you mentioned like. The fact that twilight and Walter and obviously they're only going to get a lot of attention this week but I adore the fact. That our show can look at these two movies that we're talking about this because both of them are -- is that people who watch. They -- specifically this demographic are 12. Flip out over there they're such great wonderful movies that speak directly to our. Our sensibilities. And shouldn't be seen by -- I. I was blown away by this and there's no this movie has no right to be as good as it is right and it. -- is the most wonderful thing that I think could possibly happen and it's not going to but if you jump on and then got nominated for Academy Award. He deserves it yeah this movie isn't it. Absolutely. Wonderful and he is. Stick killer. There's a monologue that happens in this movie is Marcus soliloquy you don't get them in films modern films. And it is so. Moving in heart wrenching and you write about these long takes so much of the movie is long takes where. You really can't just coach -- person moment to moment now -- it requires. Solid acting and it requires. He get a subtle hands Michael talking on the first me. I I think this movie is. Awesome awesome and the like you say -- something that it's about has something to say you know and it it really is about the nature of fame about. Yeah like the rise and fall it is. It's a it's a great movies great movie."

" Yeah I'm going to carry that torch from you guys on an -- your statements. Case first of all. I think without Jon Claude van dam is gonna make and sell the freaking awesome movie panic I'm not the one good thing that was going to like what has changed CDD Brian -- his son but beyond that just the story of this bank ties and how it's told me it was kind of like on -- and it was an analogue for an actor -- John hodgman did. It's still -- really awesome movie really awesome. Com and and that there was no way it plays and time. These long natural takes that and a date change your perspective on things that sometimes there it just like touching her in the in the end and the main characters -- sometimes there objectively saying it but the with the way it's shot portrays and very interesting way this peculiar to this movie I think. And it com and the directly address into Woody Allen movie I'm down. So. You know that it combines the -- blows my mind and he's awesome he's a guy and courageous you -- you on our high eight. I I grew up loving. It. And -- thank you look in these cheesy and you sort of don't have respect for him. But in this movie I want to -- he's he's the coolest dude in the room beyond the label the fact that everything about. Is being self deprecating and being very honest just even in head action he stopped and they humorous moments he's really cool he's he's he's yeah he's he's a movie star and that's."

" Yeah come -- in a movie about being a movie star. You know -- every take you know who he is without -- like you geeks like movies and her telling him that opening shot at this one takes shop with him making this action scene. You're experiencing this one this one shot. -- fit and feel the -- feels like this could get a shot of the movie Ryan also feels like -- shot. -- you're watching and filming the movie -- has both those tones in the same thing and which is. Don't for this movie and it perfectly. Sets up that contrast between what. She who he really is right. And I also think it's really great you know these two movies I feel are very. Complementary. In in China and it -- it -- constructionist. Like we have a deconstruction superhero movie and it deconstruction is an action movie tonight they're both very post modern and met and yeah its so uninteresting that. We. We are seeing these kinds of movies through the lens of all the other movies you know. And I -- that's so I loaded the sensibility of Russia yeah I love you talked about the."

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" So you you had this as one of your most anticipated game didn't live up to them -- or you got this thing -- Sounds 400 everything you can don't try and stir when I just."

" Something about Venice is sort of the truth and I can't live our container containing my mom. Yes I am so sick first Christian is now. Even fun that you can kind of haven't done like -- until I you know -- kmart's amazing but. I'm sick of generous sick and that's really all in January. Mom and dad and I'm still -- Doing what you're doing this anymore and I let those sick right I'm sick like I'm totally in agony. So it's amazing that you can make this game. That takes only entice people -- that seemed to gain in most people want to be playing -- and complete the difference. I think thinking about shooting a person and senate advantage team and our trophy as the there's many flaws in this game. But I'm I -- what's amazing is when we saw the trailer we've got you -- third person to the cool thing about hardcore he's studying this stuff taking place. On the and -- and was amazing that it wasn't -- third person in. I felt it may need what's great about watching part court is how these big trade. Transgression -- dream didn't transition and just. Flow through obstacles seamlessly and artful way well now they're playing this game I think that. If you what that must feel like you've never played any sort of the sport where yeah it's false clicks and when you do is say the bats well answers his -- in the zone and then. And that's the feeling. Yeah this game gives you that feeling. There's went outside and just brings us up a lot but let's think with your Groundhog Day effect where a lot of things you dial -- they gain I don't -- I have to repeat. This certainly I can see this didn't happen you know being hit and not a fun thing for people I loved it because I think I've seen as a as a good sucked. You -- you're running into -- systems and I mission you like to and plus bonus. That yes absolutely. In this particular even. -- regret that thought -- border where he died during that mission ever let like a Grand Theft Auto IV and that's. Knowing it. Bins they do they exhilaration. That comes from two things one if you don't die I. You're going from the big public split second decisions it just feels amazing to me. The other thing is if you do dial lot and you learn what you have to do and eventually when you knowing that you don't want to -- that. And then that adrenaline that you -- and in trying to applause -- is great but there's puzzle in this game and shocked to learn how to traverse that was the word. I'm traverse the -- Is amazing. -- combat. This is cool at first but when you play any game in this where you're trying to not shoot anyone. It gets very when nobody and I found myself just -- the -- buttons governor again couple after a lot of the Clinton that would once meeting his before been around jump into the fight long guidebook around W you can't just. Approach people attack on -- when you do that. I see that's kind of have fun but I bet I think I would have a lot more fun playing the game if I were shooting people. At least towards the end of the -- I can tell you I answered yeah. I didn't say also that graphically amazing and -- moments where I first a window -- and it does -- dusty thumb prints on the window -- Clean lines -- just. Perfect for this Mary I. She bright colors faster -- malls on the -- gets a little redundant by these it seems necessary for this kind of gain a little bit of anti -- seem like anything we talk about clean lines at about -- we -- played on the PS3 I should say ancillary you know we don't -- and try to -- industrial park is one more thing I want to say. Why is I I realized what my favorite -- this doesn't he's and that I think. It's what all great teams do. In I didn't think is a great game with many plots is. I've ending a big game shouldn't be you have recruited. Power and you feel the most more powerful than you've ever out at the end of the -- branch whereas in this game and many other games. Com. Immediate and becomes the most difficult challenge running game and I feel like I think -- perhaps like yourself in another instance tonight in the data bank area. Yeah -- and then it is really easy can get. That's right absolutely that's just like whatever yeah -- that's what historians and all of -- was terrible in this game about how we cut scenes aesthetically this file was part of the story -- each ranks yeah totally relaxed. It's -- good written by -- to daughter. Well engineers -- But I might well so what do you guys Arizona Senator -- like yeah let -- get more power yeah -- doesn't just being more difficult share."

" I was sorely disappointed by the skin so Ortiz -- at like Dan and Jeff I was. Super. Excited for this game after playing 83 like. This is going to be such an amazing game. Day really dislike this -- there there are few things that it doesn't well. Which I'll I'll talk about real president does not total slam fast. The heat really nails the feeling of it's personal momentum. Thank you definitely feel like you are. Running as you do things correctly you gain more speed and there's a whole lot of satisfaction. In the I don't even know I'm going too fast I'm going too fast there's."

" A law I don't know it blew -- out of the wall I'm still got my momentum that that was definitely satisfying and there were moments. Utter. Salute joy. Running through his hands and those moments were few and privately. And they were marred by it and repeated. Frustrating. Deaths. To the point oh I don't know where I'm supposed to go. As I'm running so fast I jumped just happen each of the last. And I -- not getting around and do this whole momentum and over again. That got so old with so fast is not and funny yes there are many different paths to get to your goal however each half. -- only able to be done -- neutral -- this way -- though there are fifteen has. Once you're on a pack that you like my -- that tells me I need to jump off the singing grab that pole. That is such a -- fine tune skilled job. That when you're rushing up to you don't even really know me a lot of time it's like twice he read platform and I'm running. I jump off a bit and what -- the areas like glue that's the bull crap doctor -- that's not fun after allow for me which is there's when he does and did the rest of it was fun. -- comment this is a visa worst combat I had ever ever experienced in the next generation platform. Is the rope can I didn't -- it easy on an eighty justice that you are literally run day. And you hear hey -- proven to shut today Nancy -- you know the guys are big -- video I guess they're in his -- over here run run run. And then there was a moment. Which is sort of where I got done with the game -- they -- you never know you have to fight these guys to visit I was like I get it. I'm their runaway I what I can't solve the puzzle how to get away they'll shoot me kill me I'll start again that is that was the way actually this game. And so there was a moment where it was like. No you have to bite him then it just looks like AS but he showed me how horrible comments and was because it was like. Okay I don't -- runup to this guy hit. The triangle at the right moment and it adds up running up and I'm even doing the triangle -- I shot placement not the -- there's nothing fun about that so for me I got to a point where. Do -- reward of that cool running feeling what I love so much was still overshadowed by this horrible comments isn't and the horrible. -- one way to do it correctly you're."

" I'm inclined to agree more news than Dan unfortunately I think this game is so close to greatness so. Close it is such a great idea and the mechanics is so. Wonderful. That you're right when you get when when it works out dated some blind date is the most exhilarating I -- pop pop popular gift for mom but I think. There shouldn't be people with guns in this condition any enemies I in this scene is a platform arm so I don't mind -- like dying a budget times in the class performing arts because that's -- Palmer -- in unison jumping di Mario that it. Corner every platform again ever made you don't get there you fall along when your dad spread. That's and there are a lot of this game is. Is -- who what when you're indoors -- I'm as being less fun because it's just a first person platform which doesn't really work when you're outdoors on rooftops finding picking patterns. Amazing. But. The -- to combat work I think in this game is that makes no sense to me that these guys are. Shooting point blank at an unarmed young girl who. If you did you choose to be. Unarmed in this game and approach them they should change their tactics until I yeah they're evil I did you know right but I think. -- they I had been slaughtered up to decided oh she has not picked up a gun so I'm going to try to take her down in a way that is non lethal. How much cooler and it would've felt dynamic as being sort of major urge our choice we both made to not shoot. Much more impact full because it affects the enemies to rent and I felt so much like -- a lot of times I didn't want to shoot like hundreds of -- like I don't I don't want to use this because. It's slows me down and I thought that was wonderful the other thing is. May I just know where to go moment moments. You know a lot of you really fun yeah you let your useless yeah I -- I don't direction it from a different. There's a lot of hot buildup to this game with the fact that there are these giant random objects in the world that show you right where a guy who ran a lot of people were like oh. Well its games for babies because gonna show me exactly -- ago. I was it was more red. I think that nobody that you mentioned on the PS3. -- your head in the direction we need to go -- which is completely useless when -- anywhere that that you can't have a visual. Look at where you need to -- hand but -- as a really cool thing when you click down. These the stick. Each draws a little line. Yeah I think this game and a mechanic where he pushed open and the longer you put it down the more red -- appears in the universe you can plot your happening over guns and you go four and a quarter million it would lose only eight it was so much time there's several change when you know where it."

" Don't you like I had yeah. And then even failing on that it's my I get is my all right because I didn't do exactly what you did you win leaves the usual way that I had. I'll think about it figuring it out there's a lot of that you're -- thing you didn't have the rooftops and safe when I had no I think general direction were running out. I then have to figure out how to jurors that you know it's eligible but then you you you're you're treating -- what I mean hold -- for a longer period of time you're trading time. Four to sort of debt worm Dowling and then it's I don't think I was like. -- It came as it takes those things in the consideration I think there's something really special -- estate to restoration just scored the music was awesome and a great pairing and yeah thank you. -- The look at the cut designs and never knew what the words anymore is that we have an -- we have to garner critical thing. And time -- and I actually say there's such replay ability in this game the time travel is fun it's like playing a racing game that's like just playing a race."

" Games we -- Without the need for speed undercover a long running need for speed us franchise. But of the games retirement this this -- performing yank. And this one is more of that Arcadia versions seems like the need for speed series fluctuates between more seem kind of but and add parts to your car to are Katie drive fast -- watch after the cops this is definitely more of that -- an undercover. Agent trying to infiltrate your way into the street racing crime syndicate and so you have to avoid the cops because they don't know you're undercover. And beat them races so that you -- street cred. It's in a -- giant were all like -- out action a lot of games very similar -- and it says one cohesive universe. Alex yes. -- tell me about tell your screen is a need for speed underground which we played on 36 --"

" Yeah yeah do you enjoy his hand more than I would on and the surprising thing we would visit the three acts taxi and but one of the things it was the most like all we were excited about what these. Live action -- scenes. We all men like old school people should be doing is -- it and that was the worst part of the game for me I was sort of surprised because I thought. When you don't we let the game plan but -- yeah he's really cool season and it's a giant they were really that. I really enjoyed that he play I don't know why blame. I really help latest street racer yeah and I -- the open world nest and then to being able to just like start to -- any time when it would like dean he ran around a little bit just kind of feel how the car works and United I'm ready -- Bloomberg and the way they started the race is."

" Celebrate you know would -- and I really just like the fact that I had."

" To actively go to to a place in order for me to do that race yes and with this kind of like the fact that there were like. If you want to reasons arteries and then exit the race starts and it's cool little like action need look no we guys didn't get any."

" Pretty simple yeah definitely it is easy easy go fun and I what did you think and you're answering this is Mary Liz and as well as this was my acts."

" Good anticipated and it could not talking about. On every leg from -- who -- you know -- I am going to -- all I can remember. I agree with you on the motion video has and then he knows I was so excited and sewers are back from UPI is and still please do that this is a horrible person and his name is Jerry Bruckheimer and again this is Tony Scott Michael bay in the game. With the music from it in nice -- abstract there was the now fired its controller but armed. Attack and burnt -- light burnout permit for -- homeland for me he's like I disagree wholeheartedly on that like what's the point of having no the world -- never experienced the open world because I have to you two I don't need I don't need your world ever I didn't -- And the races are on rails races aren't -- not going to -- world. So. It like is that borne out. Com group crappy. He's he's burning. In the end the -- I liked. First I must say -- need for speed most wanted. They -- will hold game wasn't running away from the cops and he he had really -- what kind of like. -- edged just that. -- telling you where they got in the car getting away from the cops amazing I'd -- need for speed most wanted that brown won this thing to be the next generation up. It was not and can only cause I was the highway not Olsen where you were just on the highway leading -- that was just. Are being -- out anyway."

" It's interesting that because I I loved burnout paradise. But really likes this game also loved -- and I I was there going -- man you know I usually don't like racing games but I actually -- do this and that is really wasn't well let me finish I and I might only -- him. I mean it's all watching watching all -- top gear that I can do and how will find in the right lines that. And then you know I'd talk to some of my my friends who actually are good racing game players in light racing games and like -- kids for -- Yeah like winning raising it up and -- and as much I loved her compared guys. This game is it takes away the frustrations of burnout paradise because as spectacular as the crashes aren't -- This game takes away crashes so you're never completely out of the race now you crash and burn out if you crash once twice. You know is definitely out. It is you're screwed you can't win but this -- the usual blue planet I don't. And it hit and also the other frustration from burnout paradise was the fact that I didn't know how to get to the end of the race and this game that takes away that's so as much as it is. Brown for meetings. It how hat so easy it is easy OJ I would -- I mean challenge I was mad that might and might Xbox had -- that wanted to play but. And I think I get -- and I didn't it I just I don't you know I'm not a racing game -- so when I can play want to needs to be a good attitude raising. Everything game for not raising these people."

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" You've got the best series ending episodes please jones' friends 'cause I hear you here."

" Very good question."

" Oh yes very quite well worded great references in there -- especially about it ended. Certainly it's gonna it's gonna. The last episode is tonight so we're recording obviously before then some predict wild based on nothing in my prediction that Claudette is going to kill Vick. Does that give British that's just my wound and constant -- that was still idol season two. Total spoiled. For. No why would you series in new members and you can give us. You know as a kid I loved the series inning and cheers when he just -- like tough I love as a kid yet but. By far until you know tonight when this -- that's gone by far the best series and -- all time. Six Feet Under him."

" All are not what I don't engineers. That's because I thank you say avatar. 68 under at such a powerful amazing. A cathartic. Last episode and yeah really really -- tire every last and we got that it was an ending that. Left nothing to the imagination we went forty times -- song that -- that last episode I still can't -- do without it."

" Emotional it's out powerful stuff -- did a great series you hadn't -- 1680. Cents. -- think our next hour via Thailand tat game there's there's it's instinct that's. -- But it always got emotional core thinking about -- that. That's the latter -- are there is friends glasses and allowing paying uses -- glasses -- growing pains me Ali moved to going to DC here's something that's the I think this is an. He does anybody tell you -- let the president of the Cosby Show because I don't know I remember that -- and cast comes up the end I don't know storyline the last thing was but I remember that. -- getting very emotional -- the most emotional one for me was. The wonder years."

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" So then -- analog people no need -- really loving Buffy down and I tell -- I enjoy the finale of that but I do it wasn't it wasn't as good in the series found was not as good as past season finale is so I couldn't say that. My favorite shows to clarify my client didn't have a series finale -- geeks didn't have a series finale."

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Started discussion: November 25, 2008 @ 12:00pm GMT

Episode 88 - Twick [Discussion]

Is Mirror's Edge worth a leap of faith? Which one of us will be Left 4 Dead? The new Need for Speed: just Burnout for babies? Is Special special? Should u c JCVD?

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12 months ago

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M.Ramirez
12 months ago
i think that mirrors edge could be better if they gave you a pistol
MrPopular
12 months ago
Great episode

I'm so jealous that you got to see Special. Living in Michigan.. I expect the only time i'll be able to see it, is when it hits DVD.

Mirrors edge was no fun.. Left 4 dead was fun w/ 4 peeps
tokenuser
12 months ago
In reply to MrPopular:
Great episode

I'm so jealous that you got to see Special. Living in Michigan.. I expect the only time i'll be able to see it, is when it hits DVD.

Mirrors edge was no fun.. Left 4 dead was fun w/ 4 peeps
Special has been released on On-Demand (Movies On Demand and HD On Demand ) on Time Warner Cable. Worth looking for.
HyphyCheese
12 months ago
Left 4 Dead has been a real time sucker, lots of fun with that one.
And so glad Jeff mentioned Six Feet Under. As soon as they read the email I was hoping one of them would choose that. I still have that final episode saved on my HD in case I'm ever feeling too happy. That show is totally worth watching all the way through just for that one episode.
damnedeyez
12 months ago
Nice intro...I just watched the last 2/3 of that movie again last week.


I think my favourite finally was and still is M*A*S*H
dolson
12 months ago
I don't know what could replace The Shield...
*cough*

*cough*
Nope, no idea...
AnthonyUSN
12 months ago
I've only played the demo for Mirror's Edge, but aside from the HUGE leaps from building to building, the parkour is pretty accurate. I used to do parkour and I was one of the original members of California's first and now largest parkour crew PKCALI. Playing the game brought back alot of memories and it makes me want to do parkour again lol
dolson
12 months ago
In reply to AnthonyUSN:
I've only played the demo for Mirror's Edge, but aside from the HUGE leaps from building to building, the parkour is pretty accurate. I used to do parkour and I was one of the original members of California's first and now largest parkour crew PKCALI. Playing the game brought back alot of memories and it makes me want to do parkour again lol


The demo was fun.

The retail game was utter shit. I said this all along. Play the demo over and over again, save your money. Or rent it - or at the most, wait for a used or bargain-bin copy.

Trust Alex and Jeff on this one... And me, even though you don't know me.
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